Slow boring dogshit that requires no mechanical skill. Only autists who have already memorized all the level designs think this trial and error bullshit is good. It aged like milk.

stick to dark souls if you think skill should end at mechanics. you sound low iq and likely brown skinned

>>715266203 (OP)
>Only autists who have already memorized all the level designs think this trial and error bullshit is good. It aged like milk.
played it for the first time a few weeks ago, on Expert of course. Trial and error my ass, the game is designed to let you know via sound where all the enemies are located, if they are moving or not, the distance at which they are and so on. You are a shitter, a tafferboy incapable even of stealing a fucking wand from a manor full of drunk guards. Go back with your keeper daddies, bet they are missing your twinkboy bussy already.

>>715266203 (OP)
>MGS and AssCreed babby plays an actual stealth game

>It aged like milk.
Incorrect
it was never good and Looking Glass are Kojimbo-tier, ideas guy hacks. rest in piss

>>715266203 (OP)
>>715267242
brown

>>715267186
It's sad because Thief is the only actual stealth game. Well maybe Splinter Cell too but I haven't played those. Thing is, lots of "stealth" games let you see your enemies on a radar or do shit like mark your enemies to see them behind walls. What the fuck is that? People claimed Dishonored was cool but I found it to be a boring and easy game because of the fucking super powers. Stealth games should be grounded and tense, not a power fantasy.

>>715266203 (OP)
I can play Fan Missions totally blind and have no problem.

It just sounds like you haven't adjusted to how sound works in the game yet. You aren't supposed to crawl through the game like Splinter Cell. If you know the rules you can sprint through the game like a ninja. It takes a while because it has a steep learning curve, but once you are at a point where you can look at a room and work out how fast you can go, and if you sprint how much time you have to sprint before the NPC hears and gets alerted, then you become a stealth god.

I wish I hadn't the story spoiled to me before playing because that twist was actually cool. Love how the game sets it up, with Garret not giving a fuck about anything but his goal while it's all the worldbuilding what sets the stage.

>>715267637
Splinter Cell is extremely linear. It isn't until Chaos Theory that the levels open up, and even then it's not like Thief. Every area in Splinter Cell feels like a puzzle the devs specifically set up where you have 1-2 guards to deal with. I think it lends itself way more to ghosting because of this.
In Thief the guards move in and out of tons of rooms in a gigantic area and there are a LOT more guards in Thief. Ghosting is a really good way to make the game tedious, because it wasn't designed for that. Just the act of getting around without being detected itself is the challenge.

>adds shit tier levels
t-thanks...

>>715268063
Mage Towers is bad but the atmosphere is kino.

>>715268063
Thief Guild: get some loot for the next mission, skip asap.
Mages Guild: a bit of a slog but still fun.
Song of the Caverns: actual kino. Love how it plays with expectations.

>>715266203 (OP)
i wanna start with the franchise, what to play first, gold or original

Thanks for posting this thread. It reminds me that if there's really brainrotten zoombies out there who hate this undisputed masterpiece just because it slightly challenges and inconveniences them, then it's ok that some people hate my own game for the same reasons. People like you are never going to have your minds changes, so your braindead opinions that you present as fact can be disregarded

>>715269204
Gold is just original with 3 extra missions. The first one, Thiefs Guild, kinda fucking sucks, so feel free to skip it
>how?
press CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+END
>what else
make sure to install TFixLite and OpenAL. Go to audio menu and enable hardware acceleration and EAX.

>>715269548
what game are you making fren

>>715269594
gold changes some of the OG missions. there's mods to revert them though

>>715269721
shit, didn't knew that. Are those changes so bad for it to be worth to revert?

>>715269670
I'm not posting my game in a thread that desecrates the holy name of one of the greatest games of all time

>>715266203 (OP)
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>>715270308
fair
>>715270530
taffer

>>715266203 (OP)
you should kill yourself


now

>>715266868
lmao based-ass post

>>715267986
oh. Sound like SC is kinda shit then? I'm also curious about the Hitman games, got Blood Money on the Steam sale and it truly is a stealth sandbox then it could be quite fun.

this is the same guy that was making all the max payne hate threads recently.

Has any other game reached this level of soul?

>>715267986
the biggest issue I have with the way thief is typically played is that it really doesn't allow you to prioritize. you'd think the premise would lend itself to charting a smart course through the level that minimizes risk but if you want to meet those expert loot requirements then it's just assumed that you're going to go everywhere and do everything, put yourself at risk of every guard even if it's just some side hallway that has no likely reward and is redundant in terms of map access, there might be a trinket in a cabinet.

dishonored did what thief failed miserably

>>715266203 (OP)
bait used to mean something

>>715272930
being a bad game? yeah, agree

>>715272569
it's sure is a very unique game with a lot of love put into it. I was expecting a simple stealth game but all the lore and worldbuilding made me love the game

>>715272930
Dishonored is pure shit

>>715267242
trvke

>>715273270
>>715273051
way more interesting story and world building let alone game mechanics I legitimately have a hard time figuring out how do you guys shit on walking simulators and love this game it's literally walking simulator but hide and seek there's no meaningful mechanic just don't make noise and don't walk under the light

>>715272569
oh, my lad

>>715266203 (OP)
Am I the only one who likes 2 more than 1? Not saying 1 is bad, I just never see 2 brought up as much.

>>715273580
kill yourself zoomer
>buuuuuuuh where the guns? Where da football? Where the cars?
not my problems

>>715268063
The talking statues in mages tower somehow made it worth it for me.

>>715273580
>way more interesting story and world building
you haven't played Thief
>>715273742
people seem to prefer stealth maps over the adventure ones but I think the lost city might be my favorite map in the game

There has to be a better way to make a Thief thread, OP

I'm on Sabotage at Soulforge and I don't think any other game I have ever played has filtered me quite as hard at the end of the game as this mission.

>>715271834
I'd say the first one is hard carried by the cool player character. I have a soft spot for Pandora Tomorrow - it's very short, with varied locations and my favorite variation of the pistol. Ghosting in Chaos Theory was fun, viable, and gave you the highest completion rating apparently, I played it several times and never felt like disturbing the enemies.

Skill issue op.

>be Garret, master thief
>grab moss arrow
>carefully open the tip
>start covering my boots soles with moss
>become the most silent thief in the city
why did he never do this?

>>715278495
you're autistic

a hex maniac blacked erp thread fucking died for this overrated walking sim slop which belongs on >>>/vr/

>>715278558
>t. seething hammerite

>>715273891
dishonored doesn't rely in any of those you mentioned to be more interesting
>b-but le hecking weapons
barely used if you want to do the true ending and not used at all if you want clean hands achiev

>>715281261
Explain what's so different between them then? Dishonored is just a watered down Thief if we get down to it

>>715282107
chaos mechanic alone is enought to make it miles better than thief, but also the side quests and a better living world

I wish this board was mature enough to have discussion without having to bait.

>Eric making threads every day where he cries about LGS/Thief/System Shock

>>715266203 (OP)
Its kinda crazy how stealh mechanics have gone progressively downhill and never peaked beyond this and Splinter Cell

>>715266203 (OP)
>that requires no mechanical skill

>>715267986
Thief guards are giga retarded and you can whack everyone for free and hide them in a dark corner

>>715288652
>Thief guards are giga retarded
That came as a surprise to me after hearing these games hyped up so much over the years as the ultimate stealth game,

>>715288652
>>715288949
let me guess, you didn't play passed the first few levels?

Let me guess. OP thinks Garrett has to crouch and crawl to be sneaky and doesn't know that you can just walk at a relatively fast pace and be extremely quiet. For some reason even supreme ghost youtubers don't use that very often. They even constantly tap the w key to stagger-crouch and reload if they miss and make an audible step, instead of simply holding down the walk button (just bind it to shift or alt). Why do people not know Garrett can walk? If you walk, while crouching you are completely inaudible. Walking is so much faster than crouching and it guarantees that you don't make noise when quickly going down the stairs or something.

>>715288949
Anon, you are talking to people, who played Thief to exhaustion and know about weird tricks like knocking out guards through doors and other stuff. They don't care about immersion anymore. Why hide from the guards and sneak throw mission, when you can bunny-hop everywhere and first knock out everyone, before engaging with the actual mission. They only care about breaking the mission and hate, when you put scary monsters and undead in fan missions.

>>715273824
There is this tier list, so at least one other anon agrees with you.