Thread 715272660

What does it mean for a game to have "soul"?

If you don't know, you don't have one.

>>715272660 (OP)
Right is better, has a clearer image.

>>715274897
uh oh

>>715272660 (OP)
There are four individual instances of "soul" in this WebM. Can you identify each of them?
1.) _____
2.) _____
3.) _____
4.) _____

>>715274897
i like how the fire doesn't quite look or move like real fire. really sells the magical properties of the world. it also helps sell estus as bottled fire

>>715272660 (OP)
You don't need to be vague to describe what Dark Souls Remastered does wrong. The normal and specular maps are actively fucked up and don't function correctly in their new lighting system. It's embarrassing that they released it in this state on several platforms.

>>715275489
Uh
>wispy ethereal flame
>sad character posture
>bloomy sky
>he has more souls

>>715275945
2/4

Artistic direction must be able to surpass generations.

>>715272660 (OP)
/v/ being contrarian about it. if there aren't threads about how shit it is then it doesn't have soul

>>715272660 (OP)
why change the pose and ghostly fire?

>>715275489
>weird, out-of-this world slow moving flame
>the small effect orbiting said flame
>blurred background, making it seem more massive and distant
>overall better and darker lighting

>>715272660 (OP)
>haha wow is that a bonfire? just put some fire textures there bro!!!
how could they be so careless

>>715276265
2.5/4

>>715272660 (OP)
>every time I see a DS1 thread it has screenshot of the butchered shit version in them
It makes me sad.

It just means the product is greater than the medium itself

>>715272660 (OP)
Right is better. Makes it feel like an actual spot where you're taking respite after a grueling day. Left is just... a sword.

Don't make me tap the flowchart

>>715272660 (OP)
Someone’s hand crafted effort wasn’t parsed against other material and modified to take “the best aspects” of different things and form an amalgamation.

>>715272660 (OP)
While I do agree that such a thing as 'soul' exists too many pseuds think that a game just having shittier graphics means it has a soul. The whole point of something having a soul is that something is visually interesting in a way that makes it feel like it has a unique identity.

>>715272660 (OP)
It means it has jenesequa

>>715275687
ptde + dsfix and HD tex pack brings the remaster to it's knees
>>715275945
>he has more souls
kek

>>715277325
Here's an example of soulless/soul void

>>715277325
In this case the remaster also has the shittier graphics.

>>715275489
>bright sky
>blurry background
>sad posture
>magical flame
Bonus
>guy appears on the left

>>715272660 (OP)
It means passion went into it.
Gamedev is too easy to make graphically "interesting" games because they're not bound by hardware anymore and the tools are easier to make things in.

Older games look like they have soul because the team behind it had limitations and an idea. They fit that idea as much as possible inside the limitations.
Without the limitations, we just have ideas that can't be achieved because they're too abstract.

>>715274897
Resolution is not a factor in the equation. You can easily play the original at higher res.

>>715276265
>blurred background, making it seem more massive and distant

>>715277095
Nope, PtDE + dsfix refuses to launch for many with modern Winblows works fine on Linooks. On top of that 60FPS causes bugs.

>>715277575
3/4

>/v/ is now so underage it thinks Call of Duty for redditors has soul
This place is done for

>>715272660 (OP)
The original for DS1 on PC is +DS Fix

>>715277697
Works on my w10 machine and the only "bug" at 60 FPS can be avoided by not ladder sliding in darkroot basin. That's literally it.

>>715277782
>>715277983
>martyrdom.webm

>>715277920
Jumps also get shorter.

>>715272660 (OP)
Switch version of Dark Souls remains the best

>>715278159
Which can be fixed by toggling 30fps

>>715278247
But why bother with that when only change with demaster is worse lighting and different bonefire?

>>715278483
Because like half of Dark Souls' appeal is its atmosphere, and the "remaster" ruins it
>just fix it with mods
You can't

>>715278483
>tiny as fuck issue that literally never even impacts you and has a one button fix since there's only like one plattforming section in the entire game
VS
>lighting and visual changes that impact the entire game from start to finish

Are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>715277485
this was so stupid, the original game's more de-saturated palette was a much better representation of the show's visuals

>>715272660 (OP)
AHHH THE FIRE MOVES TOO FAST AND HE BREATHES TOO FAST AHH THE SOUL THE AMBIENCE IT'S OVER FUUUUUUUCK

>game gets remake
>lighting is fucked
every single time

>>715278759
I finished the game with both versions and I don't care about downgraded lighting.
PtDE doesn't even launch on winblows with dsfix for me.
So fuck off with "tiny issue".

>dsfix+ptdefags
go back

>>715279206
Filtered by a fucking .ini file

>>715272660 (OP)
>Left bonfire flows as it's not an actual fire but estus you recharge, a liquid
>Right bonfire burns because lmao of course it does
Remaster looks washed + they did terrible job with shadows in certain areas.

>>715279206
>PtDE doesn't even launch on winblows with dsfix for me.
You sound like a mouthbreather so the problem is you.
It works on 3 PCs that I own flawlessly.

>>715279206
that's okay some people have no taste and also are too retarded to get a game running on pc

>>715279223
>"single digit FPS is part of the difficulty" consolenigger enters the thread

>>715272660 (OP)
Couldn't they just leave art direction intact just increase resolution, give it better textures and framerate?

>>715279846
>filtered pcfag didn't beat the game again
F5 F8

>>715279206
learn very basic troubleshooting before you attempt to be a pc gamer, basic stuff lads
update os, update vc++ redestrib, update gpu drivers, install to safe directory, never have any problems ever it's simple shit man

>>715279904
They're Polacks

>>715272861
fpbp, I usually don't mind answering dumb questions sincerely but OP is clearly a hylic and no answer will help him

>>715280004
>install DSfix
>it works
>enable 60fps
>it doesn't work anymore
So none of your solutions would do shit.
Like I said shit works on Linux but not on W10 for some fucking reason.

>>715280267
works on mine so you're objectively wrong, there's no middleground here

>>715275489
The correct answers were:
1.) The particle effect for the fire
2.) The specular textures of the armor
3.) The original lighting, but specifically the bloom
4.) The distance blur effect that is present in the original game but absent in the remaster

>>715280012
>FromSoftware are Polacks

?

>>715280351
Yea, obviously :^)

>>715280267
>enable 60fps
>it doesn't work anymore
What the fuck are you even talking about, retard? There's ONE area in all of DS1 that has issues with 60fps: the branch in upper Blighttown.

>>715280401
They didn't remaster the game.

>>715280413
literally every single git repository's issues list is filled with retards complaining software doesn't work because they can't do basic shit every computer user should know
you're one of them, probably a thirdie too, sorry for your circumstance

>>715272660 (OP)
PTDE has intact atmosphere simply because of the original lighting. The remastered is slightly washed out compared to the original. It doesn't have that bloom effect og did. It also has fucked up character shadows which makes him look out of scene with the enviroment. It's just worse.

>>715280480
>What the fuck are you even talking about, retard? There's ONE area in all of DS1 that has issues with 60fps: the branch in upper Blighttown.
It refuses to launch for me with 60FPS enabled in the config file on Windows.

>>715272660 (OP)
Do you think the retards who made the right ever stop stop to think why the bonfire wasn't a literal fire, despite there being literal fires in the original so it obviously wasn't a technical issue?

>>715280267
You enabled AA or something you don't actually need from dsfix, I had that crash too. skill issue because I solved it in 2 seconds lol

>>715280670
See >>715280609
You either didn't read / follow the requirements or you improperly configured the .ini

>>715277697
>works fine on Linooks
how tf do i get steam to recognize dsfix and other mods on linux? i'm considering either running steam thru wine or torrenting a copy to run thru wine without steam.
new to linux, it's been a year since i tried

>>715277672
it looks nice on old games and also it's part of the art direction. distant shit looks like a painting in the background in ds1 and i fucking love it, especially in a medieval fantasy

>>715280369
this

>>715272660 (OP)
>that overwrought fire instead of smoldering embers
Only the original devs should be allowed to do remasters

>>715280480
DSfix also lags at least for me when Ceaseless Discharge is alive. But that's it.

>>715279568
depth of field can make anything look so much better. never understood the hate

>>715280937
>Only the original devs should be allowed to do remasters
Agreed.

>>715280815
I just used proton straight from Steam client dropped dsfix into the directory and configured it to enable 60fps. I remember replacing some .dll for better controller handling.

>>715272660 (OP)
>high-res, AI-upscaled textures on low-ish polycount assets
>removed the depth of field
>fog cranked to 11
>cool, stylized, clearly supernatural flame effect replaced with the most generic fire effect from Unity's Asset Store
The last is the one that's actually the worst.
With how fucking emblematic bonfire are to the series, and how special that effect was, any non-turbo-nigger dev would have put all their effort is either preserving it or outdoing the original. Replacing it with shit that can be made by a beginner after a youtube tutorial on particle effect is emblematic of how 0 effort nor care was put into the product.

>>715280779
Enabling AA also caused the game to shit itself, that's why I tried to only enable 60FPS.

It's not about the graphics. DS1 has soul because it doesn't assume you are a retard. Also, no major dialogue or cutscenes with reddit-tier dialogue.

>borderless windowed
>59 fps
>upscaled textures and ui
yep, it's DaS1 time

>>715272660 (OP)
No niggers or gays.

>>715280369
Eh I think that other guy's answer about the posture was a pretty good answer

Is this thread just autists reeing about minor changes non-mentally ill people don't give a shit about?

>>715282076
Sitting animations are randomly selected

>>715272861
/thread

>>715280982
Because DS1 set it to only affect *actually* distant stuff. You never notice it during actual gameplay, only when watching the scenery.
Most game have a "I'm paying of FoD, and I'm gonna get my money's worth" mindset and start the effect at like 10m so everything is covered in vaseline.

>>715277485
No. This case, rehydrated is better. The original models were really poor. It has kino in it but the models aint one

>>715282204
Yeah but the fire change is legitimate. The slow moving, long magic fire was an intentional design choice, which is easy to tell because there's various other fires in DS1 that don't look magical and laconic.
It's a clear indicator that the people behind it are inattentive, unobservant or don't care.
Demon's Souls remake has a million examples like this. If you're going to "re-imagine" something, don't introduce plot holes by doing it.

You will never understand passion, corponigger

>>715284636
I hate Bluepoint so much it's unreal

>>715275945
The excessive shitty bloom was the worst thing about DS1. Eye cancer made to hide the shitty muddy textures.

>>715285147
>anon so retarded he doesn't know the game has a classic color pallet preset.

>>715285207
No shit, retard. It was a 360 / PS3 game, of course it was using the blur and bloom to soften distant textures.

>>715272660 (OP)
Left looks like someone had an idea and did their best to convey it.
Right looks like someone showed up on time for their job to get a paycheck and have something to put on their CV.

>>715285284
>distant
My dude did you never seen the nuclear glow of the elite knight set?

>>715284636
I'm pretty sure that the is only like that in DS1. Seems strange that they never used it again.

>>715285274
The lighting preset does help, but the design choices are unfixable.

>>715280982
its very rare that depth of field is used wlel, most of the time its just used to ruin the visuals at a distance but ds1 actually makes it cool

>>715285274
It's not just that fag. The remake isn't Demons Souls. There's nothing there from the original. Designs were fucking gutted from enemies, bosses, npcs and areas. Soundtrack is fucking generic choir shit. Gameplay barely changed except for omnidirectional rolling which makes the already easiest souls game even easier. The designs (artstyle) and music are what made DeS unique and they are gone.

>>715284636
>player ghosts having footsteps when they shouldnt in demons souls
ffs

>>715286160
and you can't point any of this out without being accused of being a jaded contrarian by the masses
people have no eye for detail anymore

>>715272660 (OP)
Game is somewhat janky but it makes up for it and it becomes part of it's charm.

>>715277475
>>715275687
the issue is that PTDE runs like ass on my steam deck, which is how I like to play the older souls games nowadays.
I generally fix the problem with a reshade, though I really wish I could easily add back in the ambient occlusion and godrays from the original

>>715272660 (OP)
this makes me so angry

>>715288035
Most of the time retards bring up all of that as nitpicking which is beyond ridiculous. Or nostalgia. Reminder that VaatiVidya and IronShitapple have shilled that remake.

Between console and PC, I easily have like 400 hours in PTDE. I have about 150 in Remastered.
Remastered is definitely a visual downgrade, but it isn't as though the atmosphere is completely shattered, either. Mods can get you like 90% of the way there, and given how PTDE's single-thread heavy code doesn't scale super well on UMPCs like the Deck, it's not the worst compromise to play Remastered that way.

>>715272660 (OP)
Why do people suck off DS1's lighting so much? It's hideous. Everything looks like it's smeared in gasoline.

>>715290364
who?

>>715272660 (OP)
>anti-soul gas
they really can't help themselves

>>715275489
1.) N
2.) I
3.) GG
4.) ER

>>715278483
didn't demaster also introduce the weapon level matchmaking from later games or am i confused with another souls game?

>>715290364
>>715288035
>most people are retarded and have no finer appreciation for anything
wow color me shocked that most people dont care about this

>>715272660 (OP)
Will we ever get a proper rerelase of dark souls?