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Anonymous No.715280447 >>715280581 >>715280936 >>715280983 >>715281116 >>715281275 >>715282162 >>715282179 >>715282308 >>715282347 >>715282941 >>715284358 >>715284781 >>715284967 >>715285174 >>715287620 >>715287919 >>715288078 >>715288156 >>715288197 >>715289008 >>715289028 >>715289168 >>715289203 >>715289309 >>715289618 >>715289716 >>715289876 >>715290251 >>715290580 >>715291452 >>715292461 >>715292568
What game?
Anonymous No.715280581
>>715280447 (OP)
Why don’t you try naming one
Anonymous No.715280618
Why are you asking? Do you have blain ramblage?
Anonymous No.715280873
Fnaf
Anonymous No.715280936
>>715280447 (OP)
Every tendie game
Anonymous No.715280983
>>715280447 (OP)
Elden Ring
Anonymous No.715281116 >>715286923
>>715280447 (OP)
I always see this happening with like Omori or LISA and it makes it clear that all these games are written by people that have never known hardship
Anonymous No.715281275 >>715282298 >>715284675 >>715290660
>>715280447 (OP)
Spec Ops the Line.
Anonymous No.715281451
Silent Hill 3
Anonymous No.715281836
Resident Evil
Anonymous No.715281886
minesweeper
Anonymous No.715282103
The upcoming silent hill F game coming out

All those trigger warnings and the only message well get out of it is "she got molested pwease feel sorry for her"
Anonymous No.715282162 >>715282252 >>715287919
>>715280447 (OP)
Anonymous No.715282179
>>715280447 (OP)
Rdr2 unironically
Anonymous No.715282224 >>715282298 >>715289309
Spec-Ops.
Anonymous No.715282252
>>715282162
>fuga
Boo
Anonymous No.715282298 >>715289309
>>715281275
>>715282224
/v/irgins still seething lmao
Anonymous No.715282308
>>715280447 (OP)
veilguard
Anonymous No.715282347 >>715282512
>>715280447 (OP)
GTA V
Anonymous No.715282512 >>715283265 >>715288071
>>715282347
I have never seen anyone call GTA V deep or say it has deperssing undertones
Anonymous No.715282941
>>715280447 (OP)
All the games you like and none of the games I like :)
Anonymous No.715283086
gmod, gm_construct especially. Fucking zoomers can't stop making videos about how "creepy" it feels, while I never felt anything but the feel of a fun, sunny, limitless homey playground back in the late 2000s. I "get" many things even though I don't agree with them, but in the case of gmod and the "empty maps = creepy" is something I never felt nor understood.
Anonymous No.715283265
>>715282512
I have but only in reference to michael
Anonymous No.715284358 >>715288361
>>715280447 (OP)
Anonymous No.715284675 >>715286539 >>715287919
>>715281275
i dont remember this actors name but i cant fucking stand him. hes ugly af, cant really act, and seems to play the same types of characters. ive started to actively avoid anything i see him in.
Anonymous No.715284781
>>715280447 (OP)
Pretty much anything from modern Nintendo.
Anonymous No.715284840
Undertale and Deltarune are THE main examples of this
Anonymous No.715284967
>>715280447 (OP)
Earthbound
Anonymous No.715285174
>>715280447 (OP)
Earthbound
Fuga
Persona 3
Anonymous No.715286539 >>715287048
>>715284675
When you're good at playing one type of character, that's what directors pick you for.
Anonymous No.715286923 >>715287379 >>715288404
>>715281116
What's wrong with LISA? Definitive Edition sucked, sure, but the original game was fine.
Anonymous No.715287048
>>715286539
but hes not good.
Anonymous No.715287379 >>715288006
>>715286923
I think both Omori and LISA are fine games. It's just that neither of them is really deep or dark beyond the surface level. Both read like they were written by people whose experience with tragedies was watching movies about them. But they're both good games.

It's just the OP thread topic.
Anonymous No.715287620 >>715288538
>>715280447 (OP)
>redditbjv
Fgo ddhkh
Anonymous No.715287919 >>715288612
>>715280447 (OP)
undertale
>>715282162
>dood, the SOUL CANNON
fucking hate furries and their stupid garbage
>>715284675
he's jewish, it's the only reason he gets roles.
Anonymous No.715288006 >>715288493 >>715288847
>>715287379
How can you tell if an author's experienced a real hardship or not? Not trying to start an argument, I just want to know. I've always looked at these kinds of games and wondered if the developers were drawing on their own experiences or just choosing to write about a difficult subject matter, and I never could tell if the dev fitted into one category or the other.
Anonymous No.715288071
>>715282512
>deep
yeah for all the shit parody, I don't think anyone unironically thinks it's all that deep
>depressing
Micheals life is definetly depressing, but the stupid hijinx he gets caught up in is so retarded that's to really care or feel sorry for him
Anonymous No.715288078
>>715280447 (OP)
Majora's Mask
Anonymous No.715288156 >>715288552 >>715288614 >>715289280 >>715289487 >>715291196 >>715292220
>>715280447 (OP)
What story driven game is completely immune to this meme?
Anonymous No.715288197
>>715280447 (OP)
>Celeste
>Last of Us 1 and 2
Anonymous No.715288361 >>715291050
>>715284358
This. I like it but it's not high art kino, it's just a fun little creative adventure with clever writing. I enjoy it but it's not 12/10 kino
Anonymous No.715288404 >>715288953
>>715286923
>Definitive Edition sucked,
Huh, why?
Anonymous No.715288493 >>715288816
>>715288006
You probably won't know if a dev doesn't explicitly talk about it, but while a handful of them talk about serious home life issues, drug addiction, etc, a lot of indie devs will make really shitty games about what they call their lived experiences which are just overmedicated "depression" or dealing with "microaggressions" or people disagreeing with them on "the current thing". Depression Quest is probably the most famous shining example of this kind of trite garbage, but plenty of other actual games have similair surface level themes.
Anonymous No.715288538
>>715287620
>t. Mind flayer attempting to speak common tongue with his fucked up tentacle mouth
Anonymous No.715288552 >>715288849
>>715288156
No game is. If it's not depressing enough, it's the OP's pic, and if it's too depressing, then it's trying too hard.
The best thing to do is to enjoy the story for what it is instead of trying to flip back through your catalog of vidya to see if it's been done before.
Anonymous No.715288612
>>715287919
and you're a spic
Anonymous No.715288614 >>715289717
>>715288156
Walking dead season 1 is tonally sad and stressful the whole way through, I don't think the few minor moments of humor really detract from it in that way.
Anonymous No.715288816 >>715288936 >>715289201
>>715288493
I know that these devs exist, but I don't know what exactly is it that separates them from devs who've dealt with some serious issues.
For instance, the anon I replied to said LISA was written by someone whose only experience was tragedy was through movies, but the whole series started after he learned that his girlfriend had been molested by her father. So that's why I'm asking.
Anonymous No.715288847
>>715288006
Most of the time you can just straight up look it up. We live in an era where it's common for people to have massive swathes of their life available as public information, and public personalities are expected to share much of that info for business reasons.

Even accepting that you can't know everything about a person though and that there're a lot of cases where you can't do this, you can typically make a pretty good read just off of the writing itself, especially if you have any personal experiences to compare it with. The people who typically turn out to be pretty fucked up tend to tell very raw stories, intimate stories about tragedy. The people who're speculative are usually much more abstract, clinical, and can't really help but frame it from their own point of view.

Sometimes it turns out someone who's had it easy is just very good at capturing the real feeling and sometimes someone who's had it tough isn't good at communicating it but any time you're iffy on something, look up the writer. Your gut instinct will be right almost 100% of the time that you're able to find enough to confirm the truth. It's just normal that writers always frame works from their own life.
Anonymous No.715288849 >>715290264
>>715288552
plenty of games offer really dire depressing themes without needing to constantly inject silliness to keep people invested. you wouldn't know because your a troonfurry
Anonymous No.715288936 >>715289201
>>715288816
>but the whole series started after he learned that his girlfriend had been molested by her father
That's really not any different from experiencing it through movies.
Anonymous No.715288953
>>715288404
Definitive Edition just didn't feel like it added much of anything to the game beyond what fans have already got out of it. There's some good shit for sure, but there's just not enough new stuff.
(There's also the secret Joyful ending which was terrible on all fronts.)
Anonymous No.715289008
>>715280447 (OP)
Majoras mask
Anonymous No.715289028
>>715280447 (OP)
Mother
Earthbound
Mother 3
Anonymous No.715289168
>>715280447 (OP)
Literally any Nintendo and Nintendo inspired game (see Undertale, Deltarune)
Anonymous No.715289201
>>715288816
like >>715288936 said, it's really not the same thing. Someone can tell you something bad happened to them but the emotional impact isn't a fraction of what it would be happening directly to you. Case in point, I had a friend in high school who broke down crying because his father beat him at home. It was sad and tragic but it didn't stick with me the same way other bad events that happened directly to me did.
Anonymous No.715289203
>>715280447 (OP)
Silent Hill 2
Anonymous No.715289280
>>715288156
Planescape Torment
Anonymous No.715289309
>>715280447 (OP)
SH2. I'm not joking, that game and FF7 are the most cringe games I've ever played.

>>715282224
Based

>>715282298
Your favorite movie is a shit game. Cope
Anonymous No.715289487 >>715289790 >>715290173
>>715288156
Being a video game itself is a huge barrier. This is just another permutation of the "are games art" issue. No matter which side you take, we just have to wrestle with the fact that once you give players agency and have to appease to consumers to recoup production costs that it becomes way harder to maintain coherent themes and tones.
Anonymous No.715289618
>>715280447 (OP)
Undertale/Deltarune and their clones like Omori
Anonymous No.715289716
>>715280447 (OP)
>redditbob
Anonymous No.715289717 >>715289872
>>715288614
>the game with our god in it is tonally sad
Anonymous No.715289790 >>715290084
>>715289487
you say this like artists don't have to do the same exact things for their art to sell. People who make make all their income on art aren't conveying unique perspectives and tone, they're making shit that pays the bills.
Anonymous No.715289872 >>715290106
>>715289717
>posts season 2 kenny
They had lightning in a bottle and could never replicate their success, no matter how hard they tried.
Anonymous No.715289876
>>715280447 (OP)
don't make fun of the mitten. that ride is genuinely harrowing.
Anonymous No.715290084 >>715290969
>>715289790
You're right and this is why we don't consider Marvel movies art even though they're well beloved and earn tons of money.

The reason video games have a much harder time with it is that auteurship is very rare in video games because making a video game requires a very wide set of skills and typically involves a large team. It's very rare that there's just a dude with a vision calling the shots.

Agency is a way bigger part of the problem in any case. Making a good video game is often contrary to making good art.
Anonymous No.715290106
>>715289872
That's often the case with sequels.
Anonymous No.715290173
>>715289487
I think people overstate the issue of player agency within a game's story. You can make a joke out of the bleakest movie, book or real life event. If you don't want to to take it serious than it doesn't matter the quality of the story.
Anonymous No.715290251 >>715290769
>>715280447 (OP)
You know what? Name a game that IS deep with depressing undertones. Go ahead! I wanna hear.
Anonymous No.715290264
>>715288849
Name one then. Not a single game you name will be without some levity or conversely not laying it on so thick it loses all meaning. No such game exists.
Anonymous No.715290580 >>715291396
>>715280447 (OP)
Persona 3, 4, and 5. Don't think 5 is really trying to be deep or have depressing undertones though, that's just the series reputation.
Anonymous No.715290660
>>715281275
>Just release the game! We have 5 other games on our roadmap, we can't hold the kitchen up!
>I can't send it out like this. This is Early Access! The customers want a complete game!
>Just release it and quite fucking holding me up!
>Alright, but they're going to return it.
*5 minutes pass*
>The customer returned it.
>Why?
>They said it's incomplete. They're not paying release prices for Early Access.
>...
>And they tasted Denuvo.
>FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Anonymous No.715290769
>>715290251
I thought shadow of the colossus was depressing since you’re basically a fugitive making a deal with the devil that ends with your death while your friend/lover gets revived
Anonymous No.715290932
Are you making fun of people who actually immerse themselves in such games?
Anonymous No.715290969
>>715290084
I think in order for a game to be art, it needs to first send a message almost exclusively through its gameplay facets. Yeah, cutscenes and such are well and good, but they're a lot like promos in pro wrestling. Promos can be necessary, but a good wrestling match tells a story all on its own. It's the same with games and cutscenes vs gameplay.
Anonymous No.715291050
>>715288361
I really like these games and Mother 3 had me tear up twice.
But there is no game which yould live up to the hype spouted by the horrible community.
Anonymous No.715291196
>>715288156
Drakengard 1 really is as depressing and awful as the fans hype it up to be without coming off as tryhard.
Anonymous No.715291396
>>715290580
This is more just Persona 3 specifically. Very tryhard fake edgy game.

>Dude you summon your Fursona with a GUN! (No this doesn't matter beyond aesthetics which describes a lot of things in the game)

Meanwhile P4 at least realized how cringe that was and just had them crush a card.
Anonymous No.715291452
>>715280447 (OP)
Poppy Playtime
Anonymous No.715292220
>>715288156
Deus Ex (Jensen arc) and LA Noire, although I wouldn't characterize either as "depressing"
Anonymous No.715292461
>>715280447 (OP)
Celeste
>"panic attack"
>it's just Madeline becoming slightly upset for like 10 seconds then completely fine immediately afterwards
Anonymous No.715292568 >>715293024
>>715280447 (OP)
Anonymous No.715293024
>>715292568
Dont cry...