What game?

>>715280447 (OP)
Why don’t you try naming one

Why are you asking? Do you have blain ramblage?

Fnaf

>>715280447 (OP)
Every tendie game

>>715280447 (OP)
Elden Ring

>>715280447 (OP)
I always see this happening with like Omori or LISA and it makes it clear that all these games are written by people that have never known hardship

>>715280447 (OP)
Spec Ops the Line.

Silent Hill 3

Resident Evil

minesweeper

The upcoming silent hill F game coming out

All those trigger warnings and the only message well get out of it is "she got molested pwease feel sorry for her"

>>715280447 (OP)

>>715280447 (OP)
Rdr2 unironically

Spec-Ops.

>>715282162
>fuga
Boo

>>715281275
>>715282224
/v/irgins still seething lmao

>>715280447 (OP)
veilguard

>>715280447 (OP)
GTA V

>>715282347
I have never seen anyone call GTA V deep or say it has deperssing undertones

>>715280447 (OP)
All the games you like and none of the games I like :)

gmod, gm_construct especially. Fucking zoomers can't stop making videos about how "creepy" it feels, while I never felt anything but the feel of a fun, sunny, limitless homey playground back in the late 2000s. I "get" many things even though I don't agree with them, but in the case of gmod and the "empty maps = creepy" is something I never felt nor understood.

>>715282512
I have but only in reference to michael

>>715280447 (OP)

>>715281275
i dont remember this actors name but i cant fucking stand him. hes ugly af, cant really act, and seems to play the same types of characters. ive started to actively avoid anything i see him in.

>>715280447 (OP)
Pretty much anything from modern Nintendo.

Undertale and Deltarune are THE main examples of this

>>715280447 (OP)
Earthbound

>>715280447 (OP)
Earthbound
Fuga
Persona 3

>>715284675
When you're good at playing one type of character, that's what directors pick you for.

>>715281116
What's wrong with LISA? Definitive Edition sucked, sure, but the original game was fine.

>>715286539
but hes not good.

>>715286923
I think both Omori and LISA are fine games. It's just that neither of them is really deep or dark beyond the surface level. Both read like they were written by people whose experience with tragedies was watching movies about them. But they're both good games.

It's just the OP thread topic.

>>715280447 (OP)
>redditbjv
Fgo ddhkh

>>715280447 (OP)
undertale
>>715282162
>dood, the SOUL CANNON
fucking hate furries and their stupid garbage
>>715284675
he's jewish, it's the only reason he gets roles.

>>715287379
How can you tell if an author's experienced a real hardship or not? Not trying to start an argument, I just want to know. I've always looked at these kinds of games and wondered if the developers were drawing on their own experiences or just choosing to write about a difficult subject matter, and I never could tell if the dev fitted into one category or the other.

>>715282512
>deep
yeah for all the shit parody, I don't think anyone unironically thinks it's all that deep
>depressing
Micheals life is definetly depressing, but the stupid hijinx he gets caught up in is so retarded that's to really care or feel sorry for him

>>715280447 (OP)
Majora's Mask

>>715280447 (OP)
What story driven game is completely immune to this meme?

>>715280447 (OP)
>Celeste
>Last of Us 1 and 2

>>715284358
This. I like it but it's not high art kino, it's just a fun little creative adventure with clever writing. I enjoy it but it's not 12/10 kino

>>715286923
>Definitive Edition sucked,
Huh, why?

>>715288006
You probably won't know if a dev doesn't explicitly talk about it, but while a handful of them talk about serious home life issues, drug addiction, etc, a lot of indie devs will make really shitty games about what they call their lived experiences which are just overmedicated "depression" or dealing with "microaggressions" or people disagreeing with them on "the current thing". Depression Quest is probably the most famous shining example of this kind of trite garbage, but plenty of other actual games have similair surface level themes.

>>715287620
>t. Mind flayer attempting to speak common tongue with his fucked up tentacle mouth

>>715288156
No game is. If it's not depressing enough, it's the OP's pic, and if it's too depressing, then it's trying too hard.
The best thing to do is to enjoy the story for what it is instead of trying to flip back through your catalog of vidya to see if it's been done before.

>>715287919
and you're a spic

>>715288156
Walking dead season 1 is tonally sad and stressful the whole way through, I don't think the few minor moments of humor really detract from it in that way.

>>715288493
I know that these devs exist, but I don't know what exactly is it that separates them from devs who've dealt with some serious issues.
For instance, the anon I replied to said LISA was written by someone whose only experience was tragedy was through movies, but the whole series started after he learned that his girlfriend had been molested by her father. So that's why I'm asking.

>>715288006
Most of the time you can just straight up look it up. We live in an era where it's common for people to have massive swathes of their life available as public information, and public personalities are expected to share much of that info for business reasons.

Even accepting that you can't know everything about a person though and that there're a lot of cases where you can't do this, you can typically make a pretty good read just off of the writing itself, especially if you have any personal experiences to compare it with. The people who typically turn out to be pretty fucked up tend to tell very raw stories, intimate stories about tragedy. The people who're speculative are usually much more abstract, clinical, and can't really help but frame it from their own point of view.

Sometimes it turns out someone who's had it easy is just very good at capturing the real feeling and sometimes someone who's had it tough isn't good at communicating it but any time you're iffy on something, look up the writer. Your gut instinct will be right almost 100% of the time that you're able to find enough to confirm the truth. It's just normal that writers always frame works from their own life.

>>715288552
plenty of games offer really dire depressing themes without needing to constantly inject silliness to keep people invested. you wouldn't know because your a troonfurry

>>715288816
>but the whole series started after he learned that his girlfriend had been molested by her father
That's really not any different from experiencing it through movies.

>>715288404
Definitive Edition just didn't feel like it added much of anything to the game beyond what fans have already got out of it. There's some good shit for sure, but there's just not enough new stuff.
(There's also the secret Joyful ending which was terrible on all fronts.)

>>715280447 (OP)
Majoras mask

>>715280447 (OP)
Mother
Earthbound
Mother 3

>>715280447 (OP)
Literally any Nintendo and Nintendo inspired game (see Undertale, Deltarune)

>>715288816
like >>715288936 said, it's really not the same thing. Someone can tell you something bad happened to them but the emotional impact isn't a fraction of what it would be happening directly to you. Case in point, I had a friend in high school who broke down crying because his father beat him at home. It was sad and tragic but it didn't stick with me the same way other bad events that happened directly to me did.

>>715280447 (OP)
Silent Hill 2

>>715288156
Planescape Torment

>>715280447 (OP)
SH2. I'm not joking, that game and FF7 are the most cringe games I've ever played.

>>715282224
Based

>>715282298
Your favorite movie is a shit game. Cope

>>715288156
Being a video game itself is a huge barrier. This is just another permutation of the "are games art" issue. No matter which side you take, we just have to wrestle with the fact that once you give players agency and have to appease to consumers to recoup production costs that it becomes way harder to maintain coherent themes and tones.

>>715280447 (OP)
Undertale/Deltarune and their clones like Omori

>>715280447 (OP)
>redditbob

>>715288614
>the game with our god in it is tonally sad

>>715289487
you say this like artists don't have to do the same exact things for their art to sell. People who make make all their income on art aren't conveying unique perspectives and tone, they're making shit that pays the bills.

>>715289717
>posts season 2 kenny
They had lightning in a bottle and could never replicate their success, no matter how hard they tried.

>>715280447 (OP)
don't make fun of the mitten. that ride is genuinely harrowing.

>>715289790
You're right and this is why we don't consider Marvel movies art even though they're well beloved and earn tons of money.

The reason video games have a much harder time with it is that auteurship is very rare in video games because making a video game requires a very wide set of skills and typically involves a large team. It's very rare that there's just a dude with a vision calling the shots.

Agency is a way bigger part of the problem in any case. Making a good video game is often contrary to making good art.

>>715289872
That's often the case with sequels.

>>715289487
I think people overstate the issue of player agency within a game's story. You can make a joke out of the bleakest movie, book or real life event. If you don't want to to take it serious than it doesn't matter the quality of the story.

>>715280447 (OP)
You know what? Name a game that IS deep with depressing undertones. Go ahead! I wanna hear.

>>715288849
Name one then. Not a single game you name will be without some levity or conversely not laying it on so thick it loses all meaning. No such game exists.

>>715280447 (OP)
Persona 3, 4, and 5. Don't think 5 is really trying to be deep or have depressing undertones though, that's just the series reputation.

>>715281275
>Just release the game! We have 5 other games on our roadmap, we can't hold the kitchen up!
>I can't send it out like this. This is Early Access! The customers want a complete game!
>Just release it and quite fucking holding me up!
>Alright, but they're going to return it.
*5 minutes pass*
>The customer returned it.
>Why?
>They said it's incomplete. They're not paying release prices for Early Access.
>...
>And they tasted Denuvo.
>FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>715290251
I thought shadow of the colossus was depressing since you’re basically a fugitive making a deal with the devil that ends with your death while your friend/lover gets revived

Are you making fun of people who actually immerse themselves in such games?

>>715290084
I think in order for a game to be art, it needs to first send a message almost exclusively through its gameplay facets. Yeah, cutscenes and such are well and good, but they're a lot like promos in pro wrestling. Promos can be necessary, but a good wrestling match tells a story all on its own. It's the same with games and cutscenes vs gameplay.

>>715288361
I really like these games and Mother 3 had me tear up twice.
But there is no game which yould live up to the hype spouted by the horrible community.

>>715288156
Drakengard 1 really is as depressing and awful as the fans hype it up to be without coming off as tryhard.

>>715290580
This is more just Persona 3 specifically. Very tryhard fake edgy game.

>Dude you summon your Fursona with a GUN! (No this doesn't matter beyond aesthetics which describes a lot of things in the game)

Meanwhile P4 at least realized how cringe that was and just had them crush a card.

>>715280447 (OP)
Poppy Playtime

>>715288156
Deus Ex (Jensen arc) and LA Noire, although I wouldn't characterize either as "depressing"

>>715280447 (OP)
Celeste
>"panic attack"
>it's just Madeline becoming slightly upset for like 10 seconds then completely fine immediately afterwards

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>>715292568
Dont cry...