Thread 715291280

Picked this up during sales and oh boy this remaster is really something. It's been a long time since I played the OG but this is a remaster done right as far as I can tell. Sometimes it just werks. And let's be real, in this case it outpaces the OG which is terribly clunky by todays standards. Not unplayable mind you, but this remaster nailed it.

It feels soooo good playing a modern release that doesn't treat the player like a mouthbreathing retard. Half the gameplay is brainpower. Any other good remasters I might have missed? Anyone played the SS2 remaster yet? Is it good too?

Yeah but after a while it gets pretty boring imho.

It legit was my goty for that year, the best part is just the atmosphere is perfect. Its unlike anything else, I love the bleak cyberpunk feel of it and the labrynth space station. Literally no other modern game captures the feel, I love how you are meant to explore and reason things together.

>>715293625
Nah I think each level gets more complex and varied from the last to keep it interesting but its not for everyone. I think no matter how good it is it will always be niche.

>>715291280 (OP)
The soundtrack is a disaster

>>715294075
Did you hear the original ost? Not something people mention when talking about it...

Got it on a whim having never played the original, and it was one the best games of the past several years imo. The modern "spiritual successors" don't get close, even Prey got pretty boring for me quickly while I enjoyed this from beginning to end.

>>715295049
I feel the same about Pray I think System Shock shits all over it. The plot is neat but feel like they had to lean into the absurd shapeshifting and powers out of desperation to come up with a gimmick. Meanwhile system shock really feels like ur interacting with a huge living station.

>>715291280 (OP)
It's good, I haven't been able to finish it yet.
But /v/ has a hateboner for it because they changed the bleep-bloop soundtrack to something less retarded. Plus apparently they fucked up the ending, but I can't speak for that.

>>715297046
The bleepbloop soundtrack isnt that good in the original like Ive never seen anyone praise system shock for the ost its usually the gemplay and level design

>>715297502
Yep. It's the only thing left that a few vocal contrarians can whine about here.
Which ironically says a lot about the rest of the game.

>>715298106
true I think more people should give it a shot, like the culture surrounding immersive sims is somewhat large on youtube it seems. But those people dont play it still. Or maybe its not considered an immersive sim idk.

>>715291280 (OP)
Yeah It's one of my favorite games. Except for that FUCKING CHESS PUZZLE.

just finished a semi-decent 3/3/3/3 run last night with a few mods, but i paused at a bad time before the last cutscene, so THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT was accompanied by a looping menu sound as a backing track: https://files.catbox.moe/9l39qv.mp4
i could write an effortpost explaining why ssr is inferior to a game from 30 years ago, but that glitch sums it up better than i ever could. it being less awful than most modern remakes because it doesn't treat the player like a toddler is just an indictment of how far the industry's fallen since looking glass died
>>715294075
it really is, i installed this (https://www.nexusmods.com/systemshock2023/mods/118) as a replacement and was surprised at how much more i enjoyed the game because of it. the vanilla ost is so bland and forgettable that i can't believe it was done by one of the guys who worked on the ricardo shock song
>>715297046
>apparently they fucked up the ending
oh they did. tl;dr, the last shodan fight is so badly designed that you're better off not picking up the weapon ""upgrades"" they give you on the highest difficulty because they deal a fuckton of damage to yourself. it's so braindead that i almost want nightdive to develop ss3 just to witness the sheer retardation they'd come up with

terrible gunplay, shit music, shitty dialogue and voice acting (and thats something considering the original had the dev team voicing lines). looks fine but thats it, dropped it on level 2 because it was so boring.

Oh look the contrarians have arrived.

That's the remake, not the remaster.

>>715298819
they did both so people wouldnt complain yet here we are

>>715298229
>its not considered an immersive sim idk
It's like the grandmother of immersive sims.

>>715298465
>3/3/3/3 run
pretty badass of you anon. I respect that.

>>715298649
>t. filtered
Game barely gets going at that point.

the music and recycling mechanic suck but i enjoyed it

>>715297046
The remake is amazing but the classic music was amazing. The remake would be 10/10 if it had the old music. This is what they were doing with the soundtrack before foolishly deciding to change it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uemn79gOxeQ

>>715291280 (OP)
this and SS2 Remaster are solid

>>715299860
this sounds great but the actual gameplay is much slower and doesnt fit this rave style in fact ive only seen people shit on the music here which tells me its autistic and contrarian complaining.

>>715306050
>autistic and contrarian complaining
Considering they did a really good job at faithfully recreating the game except for the music, it's a perfectly valid thing to be upset about.

People complaining about the soundtrack don't seem to want to accept that the game's pace no longer matches that soundtrack. The remake is slower and darker, the original soundtrack simply does not work, it would cause tonal whiplash.

SS2 Remaster is decent enough but a lot of the work was already put in by modders from years back so installing the original and adding those three mods gives a similar experience. Some of the enemy model updates are questionable, however. If it was cheaper I'd recommend it.

>>715306430
Not really when SS2 is slow, more horror focused, and blasts techno in your ears.

>>715306352
I prefer the new soundtrack desu but they could have sold this with a OG music toggle in the options.

>>715291280 (OP)
Make sure to play it in VR with the UEVR mod, it's kino

>>715306589
Yeah that doesn't work either and I'm tired of people pretending it does

>>715291280 (OP)
SS2 is a reskin not a remake.

>>715306712
You're entitled to your opinion.

>>715299860
Chicajo's, SinglePoint's or original?
https://youtu.be/up80FfzySFA?si=WxXFrwdi5j8V8Nkw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBer754MEgI
https://youtu.be/DENSsyd2igY?si=pDGB9CebC1uQOtYh&t=1461

>>715306923
He's right though. The MediSci music mismatches are ridiculous. These levels are sequentially next to one another but have completely different tones because of the music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bL7I_eWryI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubeo-BTnQeM

>>715307349
>He's right though
Nope.

I fucking hate the ugly post processing effects, particularly the lens dirt. Game is a bit too easy so grabbed some mods.

Otherwise, game of the year for me. Or last year. Whatever year it was. I love it.

>>715309471
look aT you, Poser

>>715291280 (OP)
Add 1 health restore to the 3rd chunk of the Shodan boss
Add in music as good as SS1
These small 2 changes make this 9.5/10 game into a 10/10

The remake is significantly harder than 2’s remaster but 2 is still a really good time.

>>715294229
i think it is one of the things people bring up the most

>>715311391
i can't decide if the virus mutants having bright, glowing #SoRetro pustules was a tackier visual choice than making every single texture in the game having nearest filtering

>>715291280 (OP)
i had a page of notes written down by the time i finished it, fucking love a game like that.

>>715309930
I love the mesh on these guys

>>715317272
*have. the remake's aesthetic continues to baffle me though. 90% of nightdive's visual updates are reasonable, but 10% are absolute dogshit like "let's add a crappy red tint filter" and "let's give cyberspace technicolor vomit walls" that just makes the other 90% look unnecessarily worse. the overcluttered environments and ue4's shininess actively make the game harder to play too, it strained my eyes enough that i ended up using a fucking crt shader this time just to mitigate it. i'd ask how or why robb waters approved most of this shit, but he worked on bioshock infinite, so i guess that speaks for itself

>>715291280 (OP)
I like the remake but the music really is bland. Just diet-Prey over the awesome MIDI tracks of the original.

>>715291280 (OP)
Isn't this a remake? They did remaster the original as well so that its more playable by today's standards. I have this remake but have yet to play it.

An enterprising anon should create a mod that causes the credits to roll just before the final cyberspace showdown with Shodan, because it is truly, truly horrendous.

>>715320048
I don't know why they thought being diet quake 3 was a good idea for the last cyberspace section when the rest of the cyberspace sections was diet descent. They should have just stuck to that.

>It feels soooo good playing a modern release that doesn't treat the player like a mouthbreathing retard
Unfortunately, that's precisely why it didn't get very high review scores. Critics complained about getting lost and not knowing where to go.

>>715321849
Isn't plot 1 mode literally the same kind of handholding with waypoints that later AAA games have?