kingdom hearts 3 killed all fun lore discussion and no one even cares about kingdom hearts 4

>>715293964 (OP)
Just wait till they put Sora, Donald and Goofy in X-Wings and have them fly the trenches of the Death Star. You honorless nerds will all come crawling back as usual.

if you're unaware, ff14 and ff15 made kingdom hearts obsolete. everything is noctis dream and noctis isn't even real he's a shard reflection.

>>715293964 (OP)
I didn't try get everything in it like i did with 1 and 2, or get the dlc yet. Just went through it to get through it, mostly. Made some gummi ships n stuff. May have gotten close to some ultimate webbons. Used the attractions too much cause didn't realise you could turn them off untill way later

>>715293964 (OP)
No shit Sherlock

>>715293964 (OP)
because there's literally no ff characters in it.

>>715293964 (OP)
That's what happens when you made the third game that was supposed to close off multiple games spanning a decade heavily dependent on the PHONE GAME NO ONE PLAYED to the point the entire climax makes no sense if you never played it.
MoM is Sora by the way, fuck whoever let Nomura off his leash

The series ended at KH2.

trvth

>>715293964 (OP)
KH3 is not a good game and interest in the series died as the result.

All the lore bullshit is why no one cares.

I played KH1, KH GBA, KH2, KH PSP (most of it), and I didn't understand what the fuck was happening in most of KH3.

>>715293964 (OP)
can KH 4 even revive the franchise?
Or will it end up being another blunder

>>715299087
its unreal engine 5

game is dead on arrival

>>715293964 (OP)
Lore becomes kinda boring when every character just gets a free clone and nobody really stays dead.

>>715299074
because to understand KH3 you need to play the mobage, I'm dead serious, KH3 after KHux ended went from a 4/10 game to a 7/10 game.

>>715299206
That's a big one. People who should be dead shouldn't be brought back and all the emotional weight surrounding Roxas is gone if he just comes back. Bad writing. I can excuse Axel returning but no more.

>>715293964 (OP)
kh3 didn't help but what killed it was DDD and the mobile trash

>>715299320
as a writer you should never cave to fangirls
Roxas and Xion were beautifully written in 2 and Days

All I'm seeing in this thread is a bunch of casuals that didn't want to engage with the franchise beyond the big-budget console titles. You're not the target audience, retards.

>>715299087
>can KH 4 even revive the franchise?
Doubt it. Disney isn't as beloved anymore and as usual it's taking way too fucking long. Game likely won't be out before 2027.

>>715300012
you'd have a point if most of the spinoffs weren't complete trash

>>715300012
>beyond the big-budget console titles
you mean they didn't want to play gacha shit
not sure how that makes someone a casual either

the next Kingdom Hearts mobile game was cancelled. google it.

>>715300138
it releases in 2028

>>715300313
source?

>>715300217
>Birth By Sleep
>Re:Coded
>0.2
>MoM
>>>Gacha
You're doing a great job of proving yourself a total faggot.

>>715300174
Then don't complain that the franchise includes them because they're targeted for people who likes them. This series literally is not for you.

KH4
>Replaced the villain from KH1-3 with comic relief Marvel quipping mobile gacha character who appeared in 2 cutscenes in the actual games for 6 minutes and 36 seconds
>Organization XIII is replaced with mobile gacha characters who have cardboard one dimensional personalities and appeared in 1 cutscene for 2 minutes and 55 seconds in the actual games
>In order to understand backstory you need to play mobile gacha (WHICH IS OFFLINE NOW)
>Another mobile gacha that was supposed to contain crucial backstory got cancelled
>QTEs
>Strong woman representation
>Unreal Engine 5
>Nomura is retiring and giving away the franchise to literally who
IT'S OVER

Why did Sora's skin get paler as the series went on?

>>715300513
they're rebooting for the next 3 years

>>715300012
Only thing I liked about the Birth By Sleep was that Aqua was simultaneously kinda hot, the "chosen one" of the story but also a massive jobber. She's written like a heroine in a hentai game but in a kids game.

>>715300663
overtime he got less disney cartoony and more ff anime.

Aqua is the hottest Kingdom Hearts girl stuck in a dead franchise.

>>715300542
coded was a mobile game with 99% irrelevant story
0.2 was a short tech demo
MoM was a rhythm game with almost no story
the only relevant game there is BBS which most people played
the big part of actually relevant story leading into and out of 3 is gacha shit, yes

>>715300704
their fiscal year runs from april to march though so when it says fy03/2027 there it refers to the year april 2026 - march 2027
not that I count out Kh4 in 2028 entirely either considering what a clusterfuck SE is behind the scenes right now

>>715301190
Biggest problem for the franchise is the Disney franchise. Disney has been really jewing out with its pricing lately. Not just amusement parks but anything. Even their own animation program Toon Boom got more expensive while they removed old features from the lower price tiers.

>>715300012
I got 1 and 2 on release, there, buddeh. You're welcome. To everyone else, i'm sorry

>>715293964 (OP)
Kingdom Hearts 4 will probably sell bad. The story and characters have been damaged. Even if you're hopeful the story is a huge non marketable element for Kingdom Hearts. After twenty years of shit writing there is no way to keep this series interesting for most gamers. Only diehard fanatics still like Kingdom Hearts and those aren't enough to keep Kingdom Hearts going long term.

God Sora has become unbearably stupid.

>>715303383
best case would've been a soft reboot with a completly detached story and only minor callbacks
tying it to mobile games that no one played is insane
i'm buying it 90% for the gameplay 10% for the story at this point

>>715303494
A better suggestion is this you grab a shovel and slam it really hard on the back of Nojima's skull. And then you use that same shovel and slam on the front of Nomura's face. And then just to be safe you hit Tai Yasue with the shovel on his cranium.

And if they are still alive while they are reeling in pain grab the front of the shovel and IMPALE their necks killing them. They are the reason the story became god awful. They are the reason Xehanort was as it turns out a nice good man, you see he only killed everyone for their own good and mean old Sora just had to rewrite reality with shoddy writing in the end.

Again eliminate Nomura, Yasue, and Nojima. Those three are the ruiners of characters and plot.

>>715303842
>They are the reason Xehanort was as it turns out a nice good man, you see he only killed everyone for their own good and mean old Sora just had to rewrite reality with shoddy writing in the end.
Fucking retard

I only just found out you can get to a state where you're guaranteed to go anti-form every time. I knew about the Anti gauge but I thought it was still random but apparently not. Was going anti-form on demyx for 15 minutes before I decided to look it up

>>715303842
Nomura isn't your boyfriend Yanderefag
Neither is Sora, stop asking for scaly shota like the scaly shotacon you are

>>715299206
It gets even worse with characters like Strelitzia. Strelitzia is not a replica, she's not a Nobody, she's not a special Nobody like Roxas and Namine, etc. Strelitzia is a regular human being who got killed.

And yet her debut in Kingdom Hearts 4's trailer is she explaining that Quadratum is a world full of life. And since she's a denizen there she can't count as being legally dead. Speaking of which I expect to see regular Xehanort and Eraqus to be alive in Quadratum or something.

You can tolerate a lot of flaws in stories but reviving dead characters is usually a universal fuck up because in real life death is final. So its an insult to pretend that death can be undone in a storyline. I think the only time I liked a story about reviving a dead character was Shadow of the Colossus because the dead girl does get revived but the main hero does NOT realize it as he's cursed and castigated for his crimes.

>>715304402
Entering a Drive Form adds +1 to the counter, the higher the more likely you get Anti
Entering Anti Form lowers it by 5
Entering Final Form lowers it by 10
Unlocking a new Drive Form resets the counter
You can not go into Anti Form outside of combat, useful if the counter is high and you want to enter before a fight
Depending on the Fight the chance is also affected, regular fights have regular odds, bosses have increased odds and organization bosses have even more increased odds of Anti

>>715300012
I was fine with the side games before they turned into gachashit.

>Practically the only game in the franchise with a good plot and story
>Completely forgotten in the canon
Geez I guess it shouldn't have come out on portable.

>>715305217
>Yanderefag
First Stellafag, now this?

>>715299074
Because you were supposed to play Days, DDD (Which was majorly important to a lot of stuff even happening and introduced many of the concepts used in KH3), and you were supposed to play KHUX to understand a majority of the ending or anything of the setup going forward. Literally the only game you can reasonably ignore is Re:Coded.

>>715305584
>Stellafag
Who?
>>715305632
>Literally the only game you can reasonably ignore is Re:Coded.
I heard this game has good combat though. Might give it a look.

>>715305313
>Strelitzia is not a replica
For all we know, she could be. Luxu was leading a figure in a white cloak away after she died.

>>715300861
It was funny going into the series hearing fans say Aqua was one of the best characters. At least she's hot.

>>715305542
Don't forget Sora has to be Super Retarded and only simp for Namine but not remember anything else from that game. And Riku conveniently must NEVER speak of anything that happened in that game despite it being his best character arc. Handheld games are shit. And once they remade CoM the damage was done because Kingdom Hearts 2 already existed so Nomura HAD to continue pretending nothing happened during that old GBA game that got remade. And this continues even now as we speak.

Handheld games are terrible.

>A fantasy world full of cartoon characters
>The bad guys are a bunch of generic anime-looking humans
Anyone else think this is a missed opportunity?

>>715305717
>Stellafag
An FF/Xeno schizo whose writings turned every other FF/KH thread into Versus wank despite having only played KH1FM. 7, 7R, SoP and both TWEWY games if you include other Nomura projects. Got into the franchise through Matsuno who got into Versus 13 because it was Nomura copying Vagrant Story and putting it in an urban setting and calling it a fantasy based on reality social commentary Final Fantasy... which itself got copied by Yoshi-P down to the KH2 Tokyo Team members and Stella/Nameless Star in Jill for social commentary action RPG FF16.
His whole thesis is Square should become an incubator for only passion projects like Versus 'as muh Nomura's vision' because Xenogears and the Ivalice games turned out so well. Either way he's gone now

>>715298897
This. People need to realize Kingdom Hearts is just some nip fuck obssessed with twinks writing shit as he goes along because he's so surprised he keeps getting sequels greenlit. There was never a plan.

>>715294639
Didn't play 14/15 because I'm not a faggot, is rhis confirmed?

>>715298897
lots people like to engage with the KH lore
theres
3 hour video with 700k views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bo6Cbeq18k

>>715306119
The original Org being based on old FF classes was cool. And having a creepy old bald guy as the villain works too.

>>715306635
they were cool in 2. mixing the FF jobs was a nice touch and so was having nobodies designed for each of them too. it's also peak shounen to have an organization like this. but they didn't need to come back for 3.
if it wasn't for the DLC fights actually being kino and better than the base game, they would've had almost no redeeming qualities in 3, as their base game fights were all downgrades from 2. triple nort was based though

>>715306181
Stellafag was always weird. He insists 7R is only playable without the menu slowdown and calls it modern Nomura combat or something. No one can feasibly navigate the command mode without it on. I never understood combat system fetishists like him

>>715294435
Nah. The gameplay has been and will continue to be shit after KH2. I didnt mind the floaty, slowed down combat when it was on handheld, but KH3 almost put me to sleep multiple times. The game has one difficult boss fight which is exploitable with Soras attacks that have minute long invincibility segments. Its so easy people have to restrict their access to the most basic combat functions to give themselves a challenge. I could start KH2 or KH1 right now and I know I would have fun, I cant say that for KH3. Beyond the gameplay, the story took a nose dive at the poorly handled anticlimactic ending. KH2 was the ending in my book. It did what KH3 tried to do but better in every way. (Sora has to leave after bringing back Kairi to start a new adventure, in KH2 Sora Riku and Kairi get a message from the King to start a new adventure but are now they can do it together.)

>>715300012
We are when 3 is a big-budget console title.

>>715299074
>and I didn't understand what the fuck was happening in most of KH3.
>KH PSP (most of it)
A huge chunk of lore gets dropped in BBS' finale and secret ending. I'll never forget my buddy asking me, "Who the fuck was the red power ranger?" That's a character who appears briefly in an optional fight in KH2FM+, and who is explained in the final battle of BBS.

>>715300582
>Organization XIII is replaced with mobile gacha characters who have cardboard one dimensional personalities
Axel was the only Org13 character worth his screentime
>Strong woman representation
Watching Aqua ragdoll across the screen in KH3 killed the entire series for me. I made it to the end and watched Xion make a cameo with no explanation. Kairi and Namine did nothing for the fifth game in a row. Larxene was always a bimbo, but at least felt like a dangerous bimbo in CoM. At this point Olette and Belle are the strongest female characters in the series.

>>715312890
>Watching Aqua ragdoll across the screen in KH3 killed the entire series for me. I made it to the end and watched Xion make a cameo with no explanation. Kairi and Namine did nothing for the fifth game in a row. Larxene was always a bimbo, but at least felt like a dangerous bimbo in CoM. At this point Olette and Belle are the strongest female characters in the series.
Kairi defeated Xehanort in the last game which is unironically the biggest example of "le strong and independent woman" moment in video games. It's worse than fucking Last Of Us 2

>>715312890
>Watching Aqua ragdoll across the screen in KH3 killed the entire series for me.
Imagine caring about Aqua that much. Personality of wet cardboard.

>>715313085
Maybe I'm misremembering. That finale was dogshit. Didn't Donald Duck cast the strongest spell in SE history and then Sora became Jesus? What did Kairi do?
But yeah, the female characters alternate between being emotionally and physically worthless, then suddenly dominating the screen with bullshit asspulls.

Aqua in BBS was constantly slurping dumb bitch juice and making terrible decisions, but it worked because she had these naive principles and sheltered upbringing and this weird self image that she was a knight of a country that fell so long ago it only exists in fairy tales. That was an interesting character that could have been explored more. Instead she gets Norted, ragdolls around, and then is given multiple lengthy OOC monologues (remember Aqua in BBS gave SOLILOQUIS and NEVER SHARED HER FEELINGS WITH OTHERS) about nothing while standing in a room with more important characters. Kairi being a schoolgirl whose pure love had divine ritualistic significance and could guide sora through starless depths was interesting and laid the foundation for a good character. Instead we get what you're rightly complaining about.

>>715313839
>Personality of wet cardboard.
Aqua and Terra were subtle characters in a cartoony series. BBS was a breath of fresh air in the character drama sense, despite being pretty bad in every other way. CoM, likewise, filled a very interesting existential niche that it kind of flopped on.

>>715313873
Last game in the series is Rhytm game about Kairi

Final Fantasy characters made Kingdom Hearts great more then the disney ones did.

>>715313085
Are you talking about MoM or Re:Mind cause in MoM she ended up having to have Sora's lingering will take control of her like she was a video game character from the Quadratum in order to destroy Xehanort lingering will that had invaded Kairi's mind. And in that instance comparing it to TLoU 2 is an insult to KH.

>>715314092
that's a bad take since Donald, Goofy, and Mickey exist

>>715314145
Remind is not a game so obviously last game is MoM
It doesn't fucking matter how she defeated Xehanort, the point is that KH has a girl with no fighting expierience defeating the villain of the series for 20 years which is worse than Last Of Us 2 or any other feminism propaganda game

>>715300663
When he was a kid he was out in the sun all day playing on an island, but as he got older he spent more time indoors and in weird memory pods.

>>715305717
Yeah Re:coded is pretty great. It really perfected the command deck system. Shame the combat system is stuck there cause I feel like the level design is a tad poor (and in the case of system sectors, repetitive). It's still very worth playing if you're a kingdom hearts fan.

>>715314272
>didn't see Game of Thrones
Didn't you know? The underpowered, unexpected, and almost useless girl needs to steal the show nowadays.

>>715293964 (OP)
yeah nomura is retarded

>>715299306
it barely affects it, fuck off

>>715293964 (OP)
>no ff characters
>boring as fuck
I already lost interests in the franchise.
Even if I'm going to replay the series, i will only play 1, 2 and COM

>>715319214
>it barely affects it
motherfucker
>Scala Ad Caelum is the fucking final world.
>Master Ephemer
>The epilogue
>Chirithy
>Vanita's "I'm Darkness" chuuni monologue actually making sense
>the keyblade graveyard

basically the last 2 hours of KH3 base game is 100% contextualized once you see mission 979

>>715319297
>no ff characters
play Re:mind

>>715320698
He's a shill, anon

>>715293964 (OP)
why did they direct HJO to sound like a little kid in 3, its so jarring

>>715300012

Not everything needs to have 18 fucking sequels

I've been getting an itch to replay the original Kingdom Hearts lately. I'll play that, re:CoM, and 2, and I'll see if I want to keep going after that.

>>715294842
it just feels anti-climatic. xenahort was finally stopped but somehow he was ok with it, there was no actual realization that he was wrong or that all his years of experiment were proven otherwise. I still believe kingdom hearts should be treated like the paradise for all those who wield the keyblade and fought the darkness even if they failed

I want multiple Star Wars worlds so Anakin can 1v1 Vader. Anakin already feels like a FF sad boy, I think it fits.

>>715320698
Don't forget that Marluxia and Larxene's lines mean absolutely nothing if you have no context since it's Lauriam and Elrena remembering they were trying to bring Strelitzia back via her data (Or if they did since she's around in KH4 figuring out how to reach her).

Because Strelitzia is in KH4 it could be that Lauriam and Elrena joined up with Ansem (Since he know about Unreality according to MoM) and they somehow managed to save her there but become Nobodies in the process. Once they recompleted after KH2 they sought out Ansem (Now Xehanort), got Norted, and then once they got beaten again they remembered what was going on.

>>715306379
Wow, I haven't checked up on BGE in five years. A shame about his brother and all.
>there's a sequel
Nice(?)

>>715326045
X's mistake was being lore heavy but i believe DDD was the point of no return

>>715293964 (OP)
I hope they put Miles Morales appears in Kingdom Hearts IV. /v/ would lose it.

>>715294435
since BBS, the entire light and darkness and mastery became a copycat of star wars procedure. you can replace keyblade with lighstabers in X and nothing changes. it's like anakin got himself in the middle of jedi masters forming teams and suspecting another team is in bed with the siths

>>715303383
Die hard KH fags forget that normies (aka the people who actually buy games) will buy this shit the minute they hear about a Moana and Star Wars world.

>>715326434
>but i believe DDD was the point of no return
The story has been permanently in slop territory since KH2.
But everyone who played KH2 or BBS when they were like 10 are now nostalgia ridden adults unfortunately.

>>715328940
tbf KH2's story got pantsu on the head retarded and then BBS came and fixed everything, we didn't need anything else just KH3 and we would have been set, then DDD happened and then the most lore important game of the series was made a fucking gacha and further ruined everything.

>>715329942
Lmao bbs ruined everything by turning literally everyone into the chosen one and not really the chosen one but still the chosen one

>>715328784
Star Wars was killed by Disney so the brand is toxic. And Moana is a boring shit movie. Going to be cringe to see Sora in that world and saying the world is interesting when its a boring incarnation of his home world.

>>715293964 (OP)
Because until KH3 as long as you played all the games that came out in English speaking countries you could understand the story. The fact I'm going to have to do reading about a defunct Japanese mobile game just to understand KH4 means I now have homework.

>>715330369
>moana convinces her people to leave their island and sail away forever
>sora throws a shitfit and tells them to stay
would be kino, but it'll never happen

>>715313839
I can forgive it because of her body built for marathon sex.

geg yep

>>715300012
>playing osaka slop = hardcore
lmao

>>715293964 (OP)
They should just let Nomura make his versus 13 aka verum rex
Millennials are too old for kh and zoomers will never catch up to KH lore

>>715300861
>She's written like a heroine in a hentai game but in a kids game.
Makes me sad how true this is. The "my time to shine" just seems like blatant ryona. In a hentai the guy would have raped her while the friends had to watch through the force field.

I still love her. But she really needs a cool victory in her next story.

I started BBS but this feels like shit and I just want to play 1 again

>>715333102
>but this feels like shit
Well yeah, you're for some insane reason playing with mouse and keyboard.

>>715333237
I'm not hitting the screenshot key just makes the game momentarily switch to mouse&keyboard prompts

>>715333102
BBS is probably one of the games that suffered the most being made playable on PC/Consoles, if only because the original game on a PSP really wasn't that bad, plus the gameplay felt like it fit fine with the limitations of the system back then and feels much more limited now.

>>715299876
>Roxas and Xion were beautifully written in 2 and Days
I agree, Xion's writing in 2 was just perfect, I wish they kept it this way

Ive never seen a group of people be so obsessed with and talk so much about something they hate every day for 20 years like KH haters obsess over KH. "rent free" doesnt do it justice.

The only thing that kills /v/ discussion of KH is you mentally unhinged fags bitching abiut something you never played.

>i never played. KH but let me tell you what i think
more mental issues than chris chan

>>715333649
Agreed, the way 2 handled them as a character was perfect. Shame they ruined the character in the games that followed.

>>715333368
Fair enough. The early part of each character's route is slow since you don't have any commands or passives. The general idea is that you have to reach Radiant Garden first (It's like the third area?) as that's the first time Mandrkes spawn and drop items that let you get Lucky Strike which then opens up crafting entirely for you.
http://www.finalfantasykingdom.net/bbsmelding.php
Use that list because you're not going to unlock anything naturally so don't waste your time because BBS is a guide game.

Ventus can get a lategame command in Dwarf Woodlands almost immediately with the starting commands and I believe so could Aqua. Terra plays the worst out of the three thanks to his slow attacks, terrible dodges, and short iframes. Once you get to Ventus and Aqua combat in general feels significantly better, especially Aqua.
You can use D-Links early on for decent commands but they're mostly pointless. The best way to level them is reach Olympus Colosseum and then go to the back for the challenge. I believe Terra can't do that and I forgot what his best way to level them was. They level by how many kills you get while in the D-Link.
For leveling commands use Mickey's D-Link and go right outside of Olympus' doors since it has the highest level enemies that are super easy to kill quickly.

>>715333469
Yeah, a big thing you have to go into things like BBS and DDD with is that they were handheld games. They didn't really change much with the console releases outside of bring FM to the west with BBS and basically made the DDD release a pseudo-FM by fixing hit stun and adding a few Dream Eaters into the mix.

>>715308359
The only fun to be had in KH3 are the data battles (in critical)

3 has issues but KH hating autists cant name any of them.

xehanort getting an amicable send off is not bad, its a common thing in jp media which obviously none of you kh and jrpg hating fags woild know about

kairi and sora dont kiss, they visually share a paupu fruit which is more meaningful and better theming

>dude story is so crazy xd
all of japanese media is. funny how these same people overlook capeshit, asscreed, metal gear, resident evil, and every other batshit insane story. almodt sounds like theres a certain bias

Also note how people like to talk about non gameplay things, almpst like they havent played the game or something. KH3 has real flaws, but none of you played it so you wouldnt know what they are

>>715334147
>all of japanese media is shonen manga

>is the best video game franchise ever made
>makes the last of us, horizon, baldurs gate, dark souls, game of thrones, capeshit, god of war, etc "mature, grey brown western games only" faggot seethe everyday of his life for 20+ years by simply existing

>>715334147
KH3's main problem is its gameplay. The story isn't good, but the biggest issue there is that it's mostly setup for a story arc that won't finish until 2035+.

its actually because of disneys shit movies

>>715334220
no one implied such a thing. typical kh hater being borderline schizophrenic

>>715305542
>Axel had a better catchphrase in the form of "Commit it to memory"
The gold that we lost.

>>715334442
you accuse me of being something i'm not the guy literally said that all of japanese media is "so crazy xd"

>>715305542
It's not completely forgotten, it's as important as KH2 itself.

>>715300012
Nobody wants to play a bunch of antidimes mobile games. I'm glad that piece of shit got EoS'd so now this fucker has to actually put games where they matter.

What's the Japanese fanbase like again? I can only remember that they like the dub for some reason.

>>715336682
The dub for 3 was so fucking bad. Did they change director or something?

>>715336682
I don't really mind the KH dub. I've played 1 and 2 originally in English and then in Japanese with the steam release. I'm also not English so nostalgia factor for the disney characters is out of the picture.

>put all the interesting lore expansions in shitty mobile games
God I hate Nomura

>>715293964 (OP)
No one cares about KH4 because it's barely shown anything off since announcement and any media that was supposed to fill the time in while people wait for KH4 got cancelled.
There's basically nothing to talk about currently.

>>715336751
i hope whoever was directing riku in particular ws fired

>>715337436
Everyone was kind of offbeat and flat. It's really weird. It's almost like it's a different cast, but it's all the same people.

>>715336682
The existence of Kingdom Hearts puts some of the dub vs subfags on massive fucking fraudwatch for anyone who says anything about "original intent" or "I prefer the original actors"

I remember alot of discussion about the ending twist when KH3 came out, but there haven't been many developments in 6 years. KH games used to come out more regularly.

>>715337805
It inherently exists in the realm inbetween with the main story's more anime inspired things simultaneosly existing with Donald and other disney stuff. It's brilliant.

>>715293964 (OP)
Im stil pissed that retard Sakurai put KH1 Sora in smash. No limits, no drive forms, no summons, no keyblade transformations.

Funny thing is KH1 Sora is so dogshit they were forced to add moves from other games like his down smash is KH2 ground stomp when you launch enemies up

>>715336682
>>715336751
>>715337436
>>715337484
Its not worse than BBS was

Sora is really bad in 3 though. Haley Joel Osmet putting on a high pitched voice is did not sound good. They need to just have him speak more natrual and just up the pitch cause holy shit its so bad

>>715337914
We were supposed to get ML after a couple years but then it kept getting delayed and then outright cancelled which no one saw coming. The fact they haven't done Re:Union at all is also very confusing.

>>715338359
Now we'll always have a Missing Link

>>715338359
>The fact they haven't done Re:Union at all is also very confusing.
Not too surprised. All of Square's attention is on the FF7 trilogy and it's spinoffs currently. Which is sorta fucking over their other IPs, especially ones that share staff.
Probably a simple case of
>We need KH4 out by this year to look good on our financial report, but we don't have the manpower to give you the additional stuff to make your project make sense.
>Make sure to play our FF7 gacha when off work so you're up to date with the story that'll be important in part 3 of FF7 Remake

>>715294435
This.
I have never had a Ouija board in my house, and I NEVER WILL. There are just some things you should never mess with.

>>715293964 (OP)
KH hasn't been good since BBS.

>>715338547
that was the first time it was bad though

>>715338565
tsmt

post moar Aqua

>>715294435
Somehow, Xehanort returned.

>>715339602
Sure

>>715293964 (OP)
That's because Nomura got bored of everything he spent 15 years writing and decided to throw it all away. I and 99% of fans don't care about his cool new mobile game bullshit though.

>>715293964 (OP)
The series went to shit because of gacha crap

>>715339429
i'm not familiar with this acronym if it is one

>>715293964 (OP)
Yeah basically. When i do my annual full run i stop at aqua being nort'ed and that's it, series is over for me.

>>715331375
And then comes nomura at the studio saying "maybe you don't know but i have a type".

>>715293964 (OP)
I'll only play KH4 if we get a Springfield world

>>715343670
I can bet ten farthings we will have:
Moana world with navigation and kaju battle, the villain is *litterally* heartless. Moana as a character, maui as a stand. Tamatoa boss fight and the giant volcano girl.
Ralph shit with the disney pandering, probably they will ress the heart princess to do more princess pandering.
Star wars shit, probably in the gummis gameplay section. Mandalorian and grogu mandatory tie in but i don't know where.
Zootopia world.
...
Wait i checked now moana and zootopia came out the same year? What in the living shit? i tought zootopia was at least 20 yrs old.
Anyway.
They will probably try to do some realistic 3d shit with the disney worlds, like the live action remakes but in game, probably using a gimmick like traveling from a "real" world like in the trailer and the fantastic ones.

>>715344676
They already teased Return of the Jedi

>>715344968
Return? Why? I honestly don't remember the trailer because it happened like a billion years ago for me but what are they gonna do with return of the jedi alone?

>>715344676
Star Wars will be RotJ based on the fact it showed Endor. We also know that Unreality is different from the main KH universe so it's likely they play into stuff like TWEWY (Since everyone in DDD said they were from Shibuya even if it's not the Verum Rex Shibuya) and more realistic worlds probably based off the live action stuff. I'd honestly be surprised if we didn't get a mix of more modern Disney worlds like Moana, Encanto, Luca, or Soul and some realistic stuff like Star Wars and Indiana Jones.

KH3 should just embrace it's emo edge origins. And it should have over the top boss fights like the KH2 boss rush. They can pull inspiration from FF16 which knew how to make hype moments.

Maybe they should also consider pulling in other franchises. Like exploring shonen jump worlds or something outrageous like looney tunes if they want to stay Disney-adjacent.

Honestly if Nintendo wasn't as stuck up they should have done Nintendo worlds. Edgy Mario and emo peach would have been amazing.

>>715293964 (OP)
I care because I'm hoping the Osaka team has finally learned after 3 and the DLC that they can make good gameplay if they care to

>>715345007
>what are they gonna do with return of the jedi alone?
It might come as a surprise to you but star wars is not that deep, the last one does a really good job of summarizing the other two movies as well