Honestly /v/ I've come to think about something regarding CRPG's like fallout NV
Has anyone on /v/ given any thought to the idea that the PC shouldn't be able to change the world exactly?
Instead of being a god among men, maybe the better story is the one that makes it clear that your actions are small scale, and only have a limited effect.

Humanity, in the real world, can never be built on the back of four people. One person can make a few changes before they go, that's how the world works. If you aren't able to direct a huge structure like the NCR or the Legion, you will not be able to have a huge effect.
I like Fallout 3 much more than NV. Fallout 3 knows that groups are not made or destroyed by one person. In F3, outside of most of the DLC, you are not a demigod that can change the world at the drop of a hat. At best, you can help a lot of people with small scale actions and the big action of spreading clean water with the manipulation of a situation already in motion. In NV, you are literally in control of the scales at all times. There is not a point after you enter Vegas in which you are able to not be a major figure.

The story for fallout 3 may necessitate a lack of choices, but it comes off much better when the devs can focus on one story line. You were never going to a get a post Hoover dam for four to six different endings.

tl;dr?

>>715303509 (OP)
Personally I've always wanted a fantasy RPG where instead of being an increasingly powerful adventurer, you instead just play as "some guy". You can run a shop, become a caravanner, a town guard, a craftsmen, a farmer, an alchemist, whatever normal profession you can think of in a fantasy city.
I think that would be neat.

>>715303509 (OP)
You’re not a god in NV. Your entire existence is basically just going places and doing shit for people. You can affect things as much as any person can. One person is able to kill a politician or leader, same goes for saving them. Most of what you do that isn’t for you is basically just either efforts to help or hurt various factions. Also what are you talking about for 3 you literally destroy the Enclaves main base all by yourself by convincing Eden to self destruct.

>>715303509 (OP)
I’m not reading all that.

>>715303509 (OP)
Brevity is wit tranny. Unfuck your mess.

nigga new vegas is modded fallout 3 which is just modded oblivion which is modded sid meiers pirates

>>715305052
You consider three paragraphs to be too much? Is your brain really that fried? Also he’s not trying to be witty, he’s explaining his opinion.

>>715305052
He said 3 is better, dipshit.

>>715305603
>Unfuck your mess, pajeet
There I fixed it for him

>>715305279
Tranny took the long route explaining its feelings.
Shorten that shit to something discussable.

To be fair blathering on and on was a fair approximation of being a woman so good for you dude.

>>715303509 (OP)
>Fallout 3 knows that groups are not made or destroyed by one person

Doesn't the Lone Wanderer blow up the Enclave base by himself?

>>715303509 (OP)
An RPG where you can't effect the story sounds dreadfully boring, anon. I play RPGs so I can be that influential man of history and change fate. If I wanted to be some shmuck riding along in someone else's story I wouldn't play an RPG, I'd play a conventional action game or a horror game.

I think you should play the Wasteland games since they present the idea of what you want far better than anything Toddout could give you, especially since the games have you dealing with various factions as representatives of your own major faction.

>>715305923
Affecting the outcome is usually reduced to ending slideshows.
That may have been acceptable in the 90s but modern audiences expect more.

>>715305867
It’s already able to be discussed. I did it just fine, if you read it aloud it wouldn’t even take a minute and a half to get through. Just because you have the attention span of an overactive toddler with downs doesn’t mean it can’t be discussed.
TL;DR (since reading is that hard apparently) You’re retarded.

>>715303509 (OP)
I think most people want to feel the impact over a playthrough. saving the kingdom and slaying the BBEG is more exciting than just being a pawn

>>715306172
>modern audiences
No thanks

>>715306172
I don't care whether its a narration and a slideshow or a fully animated cinematic. I care that my agency has consequences. It could be entirely text based back to front and I would enjoy it.

>>715303509 (OP)
>Trans Vegas has better Steam reviews than Fallout 3,4, Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim.

I fucking hate Todd Howard for giving Fallout to shitty ass Obsidian, he's sullied Bethesda's reputation for a quick buck.

>>715305916
He does it twice. By himself.
The Lone Wanderer is only 19 years old.
OP is a jeet.

>>715306359
Slide shows are not consequences. They literally have no effect on the game world at all.
It is cheap and lazy design.
If the game gets a sequel most developers will invalidate most of the choices you could have made.

The audience has become savvy enough to expect more than cheap parlor tricks.

>>Trans Vegas has better Steam reviews than Fallout 3,4, Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim.
>I fucking hate Todd Howard for giving Fallout to shitty ass Obsidian, he's sullied Bethesda's reputation for a quick buck.

>>715305916
What you'll notice when browsing this board is that people talk about completely false information in games. Like it genuinely reads as if they've never played the games they talk about before and are just making up random bullshit based on what they've read about it before on /v/.

>>715303824
>no gif
fail

>>715306824
It’s mostly the schizos that do that. They tend to latch onto shit and obsess over it. And then when people shot criticality towards it they get unreasonably mad and try to defend it. But given they don’t actually know anything about it and have shit rhetorical skills they just end up failing. So they have to resort to constant spam in hope they can get people to agree with them through constant exposure. OP is probably the same schizo that is always doing this shit.

>>715304417
And also infiltrate and mop the floor of the Enclave East Coast MOC. Fallout three is a Hero's adventure game, nothing wrong with that but you get beamed up into space and can dominate earth with an Alien mothership

>>715306668
This thread reminded me of a nice thread
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/ending-slides-are-a-cope.135482/
I pretty much agree that waiting until the credits crawl before seeing the consequences of your actions is pretty shit. 3 and NV have a few occasions of nice in-game consequences (nuked megaton, primm after the sherrif quest) but mostly feel pretty bad

>>715303824
OP thinks that CRPGs should be about smaller scale events and shouldn't have the PC capable of causing significant change in the landscape single handedly like dismantling a faction for example.

>>715307338
RPGs are all about giving feedback for player choices so...

>>715306668
If it changes the story its consequences.
>If the game gets a sequel most developers will invalidate most of the choices you could have made.
And that's why RPGs shouldn't have direct sequels.

>>715307201
RPG Codex are a bunch of whiners.
What RPGs do it better then?

>>715303509 (OP)
It's a power fantasy first and foremost. People would pretend the game is deep and has a lot to offer but the game is presented in a shallow nature and that's what makes video games a mediocre medium because it has to follow a set of rules, it has to be fun and godforbid if you tried to experiment and create something unique because you'll risk not making a fun game and what's the point of video games if they aren't fun?

And I do agree, small choices that affect certain individuals are much more rewarding than seeing big numbers changing. This is why world leaders were able to live with genociding millions because it's all numbers to them, you start to lose the human aspect when you treat humans like cattle. Disposable and expandable numbers.

But the reason why video games don't bother with small choices is because they have to sell the character first before they present these choices. It's why movie games like Life Is Strange and Until Dawn are pretty engaging despite controlling the fate of small number of characters. You're not ruling over the Mojave, you're just saving Jessica who's wearing nothing but a bikinis from dying to a folk lore monster.

>>715307573
Ending slides don't change the narrative in any way. It says what is going to happen down the line.

Your second point about sequels is retardation made manifest. Make a game and that area can never be talked about again.

>>715303509 (OP)
>CRPGs like fallout NV
>:(

>>715308226
Don’t you have a TLOU thread to cry in?

>>715308889
I didn't play TLOU 2 if that's what you're implying. I played the first, shrugged over the story and spent a lot of time playing the multiplayer mode which was supposedly canceled for the second game. I'm mildly upset over that.

>>715305923
>An RPG where you can't effect the story sounds dreadfully boring, anon.
Actually an RPG that focuses on the original core idea of roleplaying: embracing a role that isn't natural to you, rather than just degrading to a cheap escapism fantasy, sounds really fucking interesting, and a couple of more niche games have tried to do that in the past. Like that one indie rome-set RPG that was in development for like 12 years, forgot the name.
And - arguably, Kingdom Come or Disco Elysium explored that path as well.

The part of OP's raving that is insultingly stupid is not the suggestion to make an RPG about small scale, it's the absolutely hilariously retarded suggestion that Fallout 3 did this, when it is the most brain-dead mary-sue you are the chosen one save the kingdom shit ever fucking concocted. Of the two games mentioned by OP, it's absoulutely the New Vegas that is far more scaled down and down to earth.

>>715309214
I very much disagree because FO3 didn't give you an option to work solo. Sure it had a not subtle religious message and self sacrifice before the DLC but the game is limited in how it rewards if you actually tried to go against all factions and become the ultimate Mary Sue.

>>715309071
I’m implying you play movie games

>>715308321
>Your second point about sequels is retardation made manifest. Make a game and that area can never be talked about again.
It can be talked about, it just shouldn't be the main focus. You should get everything you wanted to do with it done in the first game. Maybe you can come back later, but it should be after a big time skip and with different characters. That way you don't step on the toes of your previous entry or retread old ground.

>>715309772
And? I'm supposed to feel ashamed about that. For all it's worth, David Cage with his cheap writing as able to deliver a better power fantasy of genociding everyone than what is presented in New Vegas but of course he had to ruin it and make you feel guilty about treating a robot protagonist like a.. robot

>>715309453
>I very much disagree because FO3 didn't give you an option to work solo.
Fallout 3 didn't have any world-building. It had idiotic collection of brain-dead epic setpieces inspired by the success of CoD to keep you feel epic and important at every step.

I'm actually not a big fan of New Vegas, but that game had a world, full of people running their own hustles. And you as a player were given a choice: you can be another pawn in their game, or you can rise up to be one of the top dogs.

That alone makes the story so INFINITELY more grounded and consequently, made its scale and stakes more reasonable and belivable. The world didn't revolve around you, but you could chose to bend it to your will.

It's not an example of a game focusing on small scale stories. It's throughline is still very high stakes (though less than any other Fallout game, before and after). Again, if you want something like that, go play KCD or something.

But it is infinitely more grounded and less of a braindead powerfantasy than Fo3 was. It's hard to be less of an idiotic self-gratifying shitshow than Fallout 3 was.
Fallout 3 does not have politics, or factions, or any other basic world-building tools. It's entirely populated by cardboard cut-outs that exist to either tell you how awesome you are, or to facilitate and EPIC SETPIECE WHERE YOU PRESS A BUTTON AND SOMETHING AWESOME HAPPENS.

It's the most childish powerfantasy imaginable, down to having massive segments dedicated to having your parents tell you how amazing you are. It's a joke, a world that exists only when player is looking at it, and solely to tell the player how he is the BESTEST OF THE BESTESTS EVER.

>>715310161
I don't see how the ability to roleplay as the worst villain in history is more grounded but you do you

>>715310367
>I don't see how the ability to roleplay as the worst villain in history is more grounded but you do you
I actually explained that quite thoroughly, so if you are not getting it, you are plainly retarded.

>>715310109
Yes, you should. It’s like bitching that a movie doesn’t have as much reading as a book or that a book is not as visually appealing as a painting. You’re trying to insert the standards from one medium into another. If you want to watch a movie then watch a movie, don’t Frankenstein a game into one.

>>715310509
You explained how the world building is bad without relating to the roleplaying itself. FO3 world is retarded but the roleplaying isn't grand and doesn't fulfil childish fantasies of commiting all crimes known to earth.

>>715310713
I brought them as an example of how they could have miniscule choices that ended up being very effective just because of how much buildup they gave to their characters. And this isn't unique to movie games, take BG3 and Mass Effect for example: a lot of the choices in these games are exclusive to your party members.

>>715310108
> You can only go back with huge time skips.
So your choices have even less of an impact.
Which do you want? Choices with consequences on the game world or ending slides?

>>715310865
>You explained how the world building is bad without relating to the roleplaying itself.
Again. Plainly retarded.
There is no role to play if there is no world to give your role a fucking context. If there are no cultures, no people, no factions, no politics, nothing and nobody to actually give your actions any meaning, then there is no ROLE to adopt. You don't assume an identity if there are no rules defining identities, or people to play off and give meaning to your action.

>but the roleplaying isn't grand
YOU LITERALLY SINGLEHANDEDLY DEFEAT A SUPERMUTANT BEHEMOTH IN THE THIRD FUCKING QUEST OF THE MAIN STORYLINE. IN A FORCED EPIC SCRIPTED "BATTLE".

You absolute fucking retard, how is that not the most dumb, shallow, braindead form of superhero fantasy?!

Also, have you considered just NOT becoming a genocidal maniac in fucking New Vegas? You do fucking realize that unlike Fo3 where shit like that supermutant behemoth dunkfest is literally mandated by the main story, you aren't fucking forced to shit in new vegas, right? You do realize the game is specifically designed to allow for a full pacifism run, you braindead clown?

Were your parents brother and sister by any chance?

>>715311050
You seem to be fundamentally misunderstanding the genre of game that is being discussed. You decide what choices your character makes and what impact it has on them. Not to mention there are multiple companions in NV that react you your choices as well as the places you go. And doing so in part of getting quests for them and learning more about them.

>>715303509 (OP)
>NV
>cRPG

After all these years I still don't really get why people love New Vegas so much. It plays like shit, it looks like shit, and the writing is nothing special. Maybe I never got far enough, but after multiple attempts to get into it, I can't recall a single piece of dialogue or a quest that would make me experience some strong emotions. It never gets truly tragic, funny, scary or thought provoking. I get that many quests can be resolved in multiple ways, but what's the point if the game doesn't make me care about its characters?

>>715311409
>SUPERMUTANT BEHEMOTH
Big deal. We're talking about an entire continent here while you're bringing up an enemy that could be killed with one mini-nuke.

>>715311695
How many times have you typed out this exact or some similar shit in a thread like this? Because I’ve seen this exact generic dishonest response so many fucking times and every time it always ends up being someone seething about NV from that half the time they have not played the game.

>>715311472
I'm not, the whole point of OP's post is saying that CRPGs give you too much freedom and power and while that is true, I said at the beginning that they are a power fantasy and shouldn't be treated differently and elaborated further on how could they have effective choices without going to the route of saving/destroying the world.

>>715311695
that’s because you’re a retarded beta male from gen z & a. everything that isn’t fortnite is bad to you. try another thread, little buddy
>>715311826
Yupppppp. a lot of em are kiddies who never played it, play it unmodded like a retard, or don’t understand how to mod it to fix it. so, all they can do it baitpost for (You)s

>>715311697
>Big deal.
It is a really fucking big deal, you mongoloid. It really is. And it is a perfect illustration of how desperately power-fantasy pandering the whole game is. Good job ignoring the point of "nobody forces you to be a genocidal maniac in New Vegas, that is 100% your choice" too.

God damn seriously, have you ever been tested for brain damage? You need a wrangler.

>>715312048
Except that’s the thing, it’s not true. NV isn’t about saving the world, hell you don’t even save the region. It’s all just power struggle shit with you being an agent working towards advancing or hampering the cause of one of the faction. It’s a game of many little and big actions culminating in someone taking control. You clearing out bugs in Nellis leads to one faction getting a bomber in the finale. You releasing a bunch of radioactive waste into Cottonwood leads to it being abandoned aside from one guy. It all adds up adds up to something.

>>715312081
Oh please you're equating killing an enemy type to having a misc item that could change the future of New Vegas and I didn't say they are forcing you to be genocidal but the option being there in the first place is wish fulfilment for cheap power fantasy.

>>715312623
>Oh please you're equating killing an enemy type
The fact that the game LOCKS YOU INTO A MANDATORY ENCOUNTER WHERE YOU, A 15 YEARS OLD KID WHO HAS NEVER LEFT A VAULT, SINGLEHANDEDLY AND WITH EASE DEFEAT THE EXPLICITLY MOST DANGEROUS CREATURE IN THE ENTIRE WASTELAND, IS FUCKING MASSIVELY IMPORTANT IN SETTING UP THE STAKES, THE TONE, AND THE WHOLE DIRECTION.

Notice how I'm being kind and I'm ignoring the fact that the game original literally had an ending that straight up said:
"You are the MAIN PROTAGONIST, ONLY YOU CAN SAVE THE LAND, EVEN THOUGH A HALF A DOZEN OF PEOPLE MORE QUALIFIED TO DO IT ARE CURRENTLY PRESENT.

What the everloving FUCK is wrong with you? Also, at this point I'm 100% confident you haven't actually played New Vegas, and you are basing all of your opinions of some shitty youtube video series, as you seem to be unaware of the fact that you do not actually HAVE the chip when the game starts, and there are entire main storyline routes where you never actually posses the chip at all.

Holy shit. What a fucking satire of human being you are.

>>715311826
I mostly lurk, so it's actually my first time posting about new vegas. If many anons say the same, it's most likely because we were promised le greatest rpg of all time and it just doesn't feel like it.
Maybe you could have provided some examples of storylines that actually touched you or something like
>I remember doing this quest in my NCR playthrough, but my legion playthrough made me look at it in a completely different light...

>>715312074
>everyone who doesn't like what I like is a beta zoomer
I guess all those people who played it unmoded on release and called it a 10/10 masterpiece back then were also retarded

>>715303509 (OP)
This is actually a big part of the design philosophy split between Fallout and Stalker. I think the right game mixing the talking heads and multiple choice scenario structure of Fallout with the cruel, harsh indifference of Stalker's game world would be incredible.

>>715313312
>I think the right game mixing the talking heads and multiple choice scenario structure of Fallout with the cruel, harsh indifference of Stalker's game world would be incredible.
I don't think you've actually played any of the Stalker games.

I mean sure, the world feels harsh and indifferent from a world design and gameplay perspective, but do you actually know what the PLOT of Stalker SoC is?
Because spoilers: it's fucking retarded and you literally play as zone Jesus.

>>715313212
So do you have a script or something because this is the exact fucking shit I’ve heard when this was called out before. it even ends with you trying to deflect away from you saying this shit.
>I remember doing this quest in my NCR playthrough, but my legion playthrough made me look at it in a completely different light.
You already established your arguing in bad faith. Me pointing shit out will do nothing as you will always have an excuse to either say why you don’t think it’s very good or trivialize it. I’ve seen this exact shit hundreds of times.

>>715313556
>but do you actually know what the PLOT of Stalker SoC is?
Playing Stalker for the plot omegalul

>>715313146
Still a mindless enemy NPC that you're so fixated upon and for what? it's not like the game transform you into a different being or something. You're just picking up a fatman launcher to eliminate what is supposed to be a hurdle in your way of finding your father.
Compare that to New Vegas where you survive a bullet to the head (lol) and become a very important out of nowhere due to a chip you were supposed to deliver. It's the ultimate Mary Sue background and you're dumb enough to fall for it but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because Sawyer knows how to build up to that power level even if the later DLCs ruined that by giving you a suit that replaces your brain and jerks you off 24/7

>>715313560
Admits to being terminally online.
Admits to making the same arguments.

Ever think you were the problem? Pick a day to not go online and argue about decade old games. You will feel better.

>>715313607
>Playing Stalker for the plot omegalul
I mean yeah. Hell, 90% of SoC's plot is entirely exclusive to the secret ending, which back when the game was first released, LITERALLY DIDN'T WORK. So many people of my generation, who played SoC on release and then never got to go back to it after years of patching, literally don't know the plot of the game, because they were locked out of the "real" ending to a point where they couldn't known it existed...

But that does not change the fact that there is a plot, and it is really, really silly. And it was planned for it to have a major presence. It's just that the development was such a shitshow they were forced to cut most of it, and then just cram a summary of it into one single exposition dump hidden behind secret ending.

Stalker is one of the rare cases where developers cutting out 80% of the planned story actually genuinely improved the whole thing.

But still, it's there. And my god is it dumb.

>>715313889
You’re just proving him right, little guy. You’re very similar to a girl by the way in terms of behavior. Ever thought about taking estrogen?

>>715313635
>Still a mindless enemy NPC that you're so fixated upon and for what?
You would understand that if you were not quite literally brain-damaged.

>Compare that to New Vegas where you survive a bullet to the head (lol)
Holy SHIT are you even a human? I'm genuinely wondering if I'm not dealing with a fucking chimp that survived extensive tests of brain-cancer treatments and somehow got a hold of a computer.

This is frankly horrifying. But I guess I've been off this board for a while, and I forgot what Beth fans are like.

>>715313635
>Killing the literal ultimate threat of the setting in the opening act of the game which heavily undermines the stakes for the rest of the game going forward because you've already defeated the undefeatable
>this is somehow less egregious than simply being the last known individual to have possesed an important item that many people are after
huh?

>>715313635
He’s not fixating on the enemy, he’s calling out that the moment is inorganic and is only there to serve as being a designated “epic” moment. You’re either purposely misconstruing what he’s saying in order to make arguing easier or you actually don’t understand what he’s saying.
>You're just picking up a fatman launcher to eliminate what is supposed to be a hurdle in your way of finding your father
You mean the random 19 year old that until a few days ago only ever used a bb gun? The issue is that there is too much put into the character before you even get started. In NV the courier can be whoever you want before the game begins.
>inb4 lonesome road
You can roleplay that as Ulysses being a schizo and the game lets you.
>Compare that to New Vegas where you survive a bullet to the head
That is something that has happened.
>and become a very important out of nowhere due to a chip you were supposed to deliver
That’s not out of nowhere, you were important because you were delivering the chip. It’s the whole reason Benny attacks you. Is he right? Have you actually not played the game? Are you just going to keep talking out of your ass like this?
>It's the ultimate Mary Sue
If the courier was a Mary Sue then he wouldn’t have gotten shot in the first place. Mary Sue’s don’t face adversity or hardship, it’s all good all the time.

>>715313936
No yeah I am heavily guilty of being that kind of "fan", ashamedly. I played SoC as a kid but it was too buggy to complete/I was too stupid to make it run, and the furthest I ever got in the series was nearly to the end of CoP. Never played Blue Sky.

Fast forward nearly 20 years and now I'm one of the retards who gets his exposure to the series almost exclusively from when GAMMA updates.

>>715303509 (OP)
i’m glad games where you’re this grand napoleonic figure exist, but i want more games where you’re clint eastwood in TGTBATU too, just some opportunistic asshole in the middle of a state of unrest, getting by, making little waves here and there.

>>715313889
So not only can you not deny what I’ve said but you’re getting extremely defensive over me pointing all of this out.
>Ever think you were the problem
For me to be the problem what you’re making up has to be true. What I said doesn’t imply being terminally online, it implies that I’ve see the same thing multiple times.
>Admits to making the same arguments
I mean if it works then why change it?

>>715314198
>played SoC as a kid but it was too buggy to complete/I was too stupid to make it run
I don't blame you, since I vividly remember what the game was like when it was fresh from release. But I have to say you kinda missed out by not returning back to it after both official and unofficial patching and vanilla-friendly mods fixed it up. Because SoC is still a great game, despite how incomplete it is. The plot is fuck-awful but as I said, it's not really present until you finish the game with the "true" ending.

The more linear baseline stalker games still have a wonderous sense of exploration and some really memorable setpieces in them, well worth playing. Nobody remembers or even realizes that the plot is literally a very bad Evangelion fanfiction, they remember the thrill of entering X11 for the first time, how genuinely amazingly set up and paced that was.

But I guess what happened, happened. Now that you are familiar with the more open-ended mods the surprise can't be recreated. And you still had to experience the game's best asset, which is the environments, even if in mods like Gamma or Shadow of Pripyat, they lack the impressive scripted setpieces.

I was just pointing out the irony of you brining up a Stalker as contrast to Fo when really, the intended plot of Stalker games always was about Strelok being a literal Jesus saving the world from Not!Selee's attempt at Not!Instrumentality.

Op here, I need to expand on what I mean more thoroughly.

Putting a lot on the PC at the very start of the game is kind of antithesis of something fun and more of some like a job the player has to do. Starting NV like I said in the OP you literally are in control of the scales at all times and that's stressful especially when you are here to enjoy the experience

In the world individuals come together and create change and rarely do you see it happen with one individual causing a large ripple whether the goal be positive or negative to the point that its neglectful. Just look at BLM when george floyd died. He had such a positive impact on the black community and literally change our nation for the better but he didn't do it himself it was done by other people like the BLM group because of his death.
Fallout 3 is more comforting in the fact that it doesn't try to pretend to not be a spectacle with substance and allows you to engage in much smaller stories that tell a story while in NV you literally cannot escape being a major figure with all the power the moment you wake up in doc mitchell's hospital

Games, when you think about it are really like surprise boxes in that they can be exciting rather than be too complicated and throwing everything at the player immediately.
This is where Fallout 3 reigns superior over NV

>>715314112
Take your sleeping pills, you're too angry even for this board.
>>715314179
It is inorganic same way getting shot to the head is being your backstory except killing the behemoth is something you experience firsthand while getting a shot is reserved for a cutscene.
>That is something that has happened.
Same for an untrained person carrying an explosive weapon. Mind you the BB gun argument doesn't hold weight when you fight through hell in the metro and escaping the vault before that.

>>715313560
I'm just saying it because I really don't see people talking much about how this game affected them on an emotional level. Whenever people bring up new vegas all they're talking about is how much better it is then bethesda slop and how your choices matter and argue about what faction is the best. It's not like I can't believe that it's there, but the fans barely ever bring it up. I've been trying to remember what's left the most impact on me from the early part of the game when you're just getting to new vegas. And I guess legion crucifying everyone in that one town except those who won the lottery is interesting, but I won't ever hear about it like
>I remember how horrifying it was the first time I played the game
People only talk about the "who won the lottery" meme.
>>715314406
Btw >>715313889 isn't even me

>>715314750
>I was just pointing out the irony of you brining up a Stalker as contrast to Fo when really, the intended plot of Stalker games always was about Strelok being a literal Jesus saving the world from Not!Selee's attempt at Not!Instrumentality.
Nah you were right though. I wasn't explicitly trying to, but I was depicting Stalker through the lens of what mods have turned it into over the years and neglecting the reality that it really wasn't as far off from Bethesda's framing as I had in mind.

Still, there are little things even in the base games. IIRC even at the most rudimentary implementation, A-life runs circles around Radiant AI in terms of shit happening in the world without regard to the player's Hero Status™.

>>715314041
We get that you're a New Vegas fan, but just because you've been taking estrogen doesn't mean we all should. But keep speaking your truth! You're stunning!

>>715314952
>Take your sleeping pills, you're too angry even for this board.
And you are too braindamaged for this board. I'm pretty sure being frustrated from dealing with an ABSOLUTE MONGOLOID is less damning than being literally too stupid to be alive.

Case in point:
>It is inorganic same way getting shot to the head is being your backstory except killing the behemoth is something you experience firsthand while getting a shot is reserved for a cutscene.
You literally can't tell the fucking difference between being shot in the head and surviving, a PURE ACCIDENT, something of purely random chance, that you have absolutely no control over, something that can happen to anyone as it's not a result of their own actions, or competences, or any other features, it's literally a pure act of random luck, and the act of a 15 years old child effortlessly and casually defeating a monster that before was explicitly established as capable of wiping out entire small ARMIES worth of power-armored paladins who spend their entire life training and are equipped with the best weapons and armor ever made.

You fucking joke. One is a feat of someones insane skills, the other is literally a fucking diceroll. How the EVERLOVING FUCK do you think these two things are the same?!

How are you alive?!

>>715314406
If you are not careful you will become an obsessed loser that sees boogeyman around every corner. If you want to see your future enter a TES thread. There is a sad sack Morrowindfan that has a full roster of enemies he battles day in and day out.
Over a shitty quarter century old game no less.
Don't worry that people don't like things you do. You can't stop them and you seem weird for trying.

>>715314952
>>715314969
How many people are you larping as in this thread? Are you OP as well?

>>715303509 (OP)
You could always take the Mass Effect 3 approach and have the game hype up your decisions as being really important to everything, but in reality nothing changes and the same shit happens no matter what you pick.

>>715315285
>Pure accident
But enough about your birth

>>715315328
The visceral reaction you have had to me pointing out that you’re not arguing in good faith really tells me I hit the nail on the head.

>>715315438
Great job, child. You really showed me.

Pro-tip. When you absolutely lose an argument, the correct thing is to either admit you were wrong, or to silently leave the thread and hope people will forget soon.

This shit literally screams "I HAVE NO ACTUAL COUNTER-ARGUMENT BUT I'M TOO SORE LOSER TO BACK OFF, PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT A FUCKING LOSER I AM."

And I assume that is not how you want people to see you.
But then again, you are a beth fans. I should not fucking assume anything. You people are genuinely mental.

>>715315454
Just trying to save you from a horrid fate. Imagine spending the next 10 years defending NV around the clock on a Belgian waffle enthusiast site.

Don't become the Morrowindfag of NV. Imagine spending 25 years of your life getting mad at people for criticizing a mediocre game.

>>715315916
No you’re passive aggressively trying to say that I’m obsessed to try and ad hominem your way out of the situation you’ve found yourself in. While still not denying or arguing anything I’ve said.
>Imagine spending the next 10 years defending NV around the clock on a Belgian waffle enthusiast site
This is very specific thing to bring up. Have you been bitching about this game for a decade? Is that how long you have been posting that same shit I called out?
>Don't become the Morrowindfag of NV
There already is one, he’s spends all of his time seething about NV and spamming tranny shit. He’s in every NV thread. I’m shocked you didn’t bring him up honestly he’s pretty well known.

>>715316207
I am not passively saying anything. I am straight up saying you are terminally online defending a 15 year old game.
If you don't change you will have a full roster of boogeyman you battle defending the honor of an all but forgotten game.
If you want to waste your life in that manner that is your choice. I am just trying to steer you away from living a pathetic life.

>le zoom zoom always moves goalposts to avoid talking about the main subject
Hard to have respect for em when they’re all retarded, annoying, and so ingenuine. what a pussy whipped generation

>>715316604
>I am not passively saying anything
Passive aggressively, and you were, you were trying to say I was obsessed and say I would end up like random schizo while framing it as some kind of warning as if you cared about some rando online.
>I am straight up saying you are terminally online
You actually shown how I’m terminally online. That is just another childish insult you’re using in an attempt to ad hominem away from the fact you were called out for the kind of obsessive behavior you’re trying to project onto me.
>If you don't change you will have a full roster of boogeyman
What boogeymen? I have not mentioned anyone specifically aside from the Bethesda schizo as an example of schizos like you listed. I just called out that I have seen what you posted many times before and that set you off.
>defending the honor of an all but forgotten game
We’re not even talking about the game right now though.
>I am just trying to steer you away from living a pathetic life
No, you’re seething because you were called out for posting something. Honestly you’re doing most of the leg work here. You seem to think that getting buttmad and crying like this is going to prove what I’ve said wrong.

>>715303509 (OP)
qrd

>>715317181
Op here, just watching a shitshow open in my thread
>>715314928
Here is a shorter version that I made

>>715317030
See even you admit you have already started collecting boogeyman.
You are headed into Morrowindfan territory. That poor loser has spent the last quarter century defending a mediocre game from even the slightest criticism. Don't waste your life defending the Fallout version of Morrowind for the next 10+ years.
Or do. It is your life and if you want to be as pathetic as Morrowindfan then who am I to stop you?

>>715314928
So you haven’t played the game and this is just an attempt to make it look like you’re trolling? What the fuck why bring up fucking /pol/shit like that?
>inb4 it’s not /pol/shit
There are so many other examples of individuals doing shit that caused massive reverberations and you choose one that would guaranteed cause a massive shitstorm of an argument.

>>715303509 (OP)
>Has anyone on /v/ given any thought to the idea that the PC shouldn't be able to change the world exactly?
this was obviously talked about here and everywhere else a billion time by this point. are you stupid? CRPGs are dumb, including ones with pretense of muh realism

>>715317653
>There are so many other examples of individuals doing shit that caused massive reverberations
Examples then? Because I bet they aren't as big as you think they are

>>715303509 (OP)
I remember when /v/ actually played and enjoyed Fallout 3 and Fallout NV instead of just shitposting about them day in and day out.

>>715317601
>ignores everything aside from one point that he’s using to double down
So not only is it all projection, but you were being passive aggressive, you are just making shit up about me being terminally online, and you have been doing this for a decade.
>See even you admit you have already started collecting boogeyman
No I just pointed one guy that acts like the other guys that you mentioned but for the Bethesda Fallouts. Unless you’re going to say that all those are boogeymen as well? I mean that would fit with all the projection you have been doing so far.

>>715317847
Sometimes you’ll get a thread like that on /v/. Late at night when the amerimutts are sleeping

>>715317809
>Examples then? Because I bet they aren't as big as you think they are
So you haven’t heard of Gavrillo Princip, John Brown, Vasili Arkhipov, or John Wilkes Booth?

>>715317972
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt brother.
If you want to be the sad old man defending ancient games like the Morrowindfan that is your choice. You seem determined to head that route.
Good luck to you. Remember you can walk away at any point.

>>715315743
>pro-tip
Jesus you're too autistic even for a New Begas thread

>>715318523
You still can’t argue or deny what I have said and you’re just going to quadruple down on projecting and seething while you run away because you’ve effectively backed yourself into a corner rhetorically.

>>715318562
And here I was thinking you are capable of learning and just kept your mouth shut.

You really can't help yourself, can you?

>>715303509 (OP)
What the fuck are you on about? There is many examples from the real world of "some random guy kills a key figure and it all spirals"

>>715318652
If you have decided to be a pathetic loser like Morrowindfan then that is on you. Remember he has spent a quarter century being pathetic.
If you go that route you can walk away at any time and nobody will care.

>>715313635
>where you survive a bullet to the head (lol)
Fairly realistic actually. Getting shot in the head isn't instant death 100% like movies or games.

>>715318982
So far you’ve shown to be everything you have tried to call me in a vain attempt to project and flip the script. Also what happened to you leaving? What was all that shit about “good luck”? Can you not help but come back here to keep seething? Are you that unable to control yourself and your emotions?
>If you go that route you can walk away at any time and nobody will care
Are you just talking to yourself at this point? Stop replying to me, and get your head checked. If you’re not as unhinged as you’ve shown then you’ll do what I’ve said.
>inb4 indirect reply. Just because you don’t give a (You) doesn’t mean you’re not having a breakdown.

>>715319342
This is a guy who straight up said that surviving a shot in the head is more of a mary-sue silly power-fantasy self-glorification shit than being story-mandated to defeat a supermutant behemoth at the age of 17 after being raised exclusively in a peaceful vault.

I don't think he can be reasoned with. He is, in the most literal sense of the word, brain-damaged.

>>715319516
No need to be angry about being shown your future.
If you want to be a pathetic loser like the Morrowindfan defending a mediocre game that is on you. It is your choice.
Raging at me doesn't change any of that.

>>715319908
>No need to be angry
So whatever I say that upsets you just make that the next thing you start projecting onto me? Because I pointed out that you were seething and now you’re saying I’m mad, just like how I pointed out that you were obsessed and you started saying I was actually.
>defending a mediocre game
So far I have said nothing about the game and it’s all just been me pointing out that you have seen what you have posted here multiple times. Honestly I don’t know why you’re still going on like this. So far all you’re doing is just flailing and repeating yourself.

>>715317847
At least old Fallout threads are comfy. When you dont get anons bitching about Fallout 1s combat or Fallout 2s jokes anyway.

>>715320208
I am trying to warn you about becoming like that pathetic loser from TES threads. Is it some sort of dream of yours to become the most pathetic person on /v/?
If so gunning for Morrowindfan is aiming in the right direction.
The question you have to ask yourself is "Is NV worth it?" Morrowindfan chose poorly and every subsequent TES title has improved on Morrowind.
The Fallout 3 remake is likely being made as we speak. Do you really want to be That Guy defending NV when it comes out?
Think it over. Don't lock into a game aging as poorly as NV.

i don’t think a chronic /v/ user that’s a gigantic faggot has any right to tell people how to live. just saying

>>715303509 (OP)
Play oblivion if you want the "you're not the chosen one in this story" experience

>>715320818
You’re not, like I said before you’re using that as an excuse to passive aggressively to say I’m obsessed. And when I said that you could not argue or deny how it was the case in any way. Then you brought up a bunch of schizos and tried to say I was “collecting boogeymen” for bringing one up as well. And when I called you out for that you had nothing. So far this has just been you desperately going in circles while not being able to give any kind of rational argument or any manner or logic. And everything you do bring up you can neither defend or elaborate on it you just repeat it over and over hoping that it will somehow become true.
>Is NV worth it?
Have I said anything to defend NV this entire time? Have I? I want you to show me where I have. And if you can’t then you’re just showing that you’re making things up.

>>715306482
In 3's defense the steam version literally doesn't work on pc, which skews the rating

>>715320930
Stay out of TES threads then. If you think NV fan is bad wait until you get a load of Morrowindfan.

>>715320208
I have a fun little fact for you. That "morrowindfag" OP (and this is OP) keeps obsessing about?
Yeah, that was a nickname for a guy (or more likely, a bunch of guys taking turns and passing the torch) who were actually obsessively SHITTING on Morrowind for several years. He (they) were kinda like a less cartoony version "poo in the loo" guy you mentioned. In fact the poo in the loo meme likely started as an attempt to emulate Morrowindfags success at being insuferable. "Morrowindfag(s) were, like a lot of the most deranged beth fans, most active during the height of Fo3/NV animosity, which correlated to the increasingly surreal denial and anxiousness of Bethdrones during the buildup to Starfield. And unsurprisingly, Starfield put a big damper on all of these bizarre Beth fanboy insanities.

So yeah, the unhinged and deranged bethdrone in this thread is constantly trying to liken you to... an unhinged and deranged bethdrone.
Which... I think makes sense in his own way.

>>715303509 (OP)
How is the courier a "god among men"? The only thing he has going for him is House took notice of them and let them into the Lucky 38, which got the other factions *very* interested in him because no one else has done that.

>>715321110
So you have been responding to posts about not becoming obsessed with NV when you don't even like NV?

Are you Morrowindfan? That is the level of stupidity you expect from him.

>>715321365
No, the fallout schizo is real. He wasn’t Indian though, he was some Italian. There is a lot of shit about him. Apparently he used to browse /a/ and spam Umineko threads with his headcanon before being bullied off.

>>715304050
you just want the sims but medieval

>>715321574
that actually sounds like a pretty fun idea

>>715321448
And you have confirmed that you have been making things up and yet again you can’t argue anything I’ve said so you have to deflect to something else.
>when you don't even like NV
When did I say that, I want you to point exactly where I said that and if you can’t you’re just showing that you’re arguing with things in your head.

i forgot they released The Sims Medieval in 2011

>>715321367
It's retarded bait to try and make Fallout 3 look good, i guess. All Fallout PCs are power fantasies
>Vault Dweller who blows up a Military Base and Church cult, 500 dead muties
>Chosen One who raids an ocean base and blows it up, 1000 dead politicians
>Lone Wanderer who blows up yet another military base, 100 more dead politicians
>Courier who takes over an entire city, 1000 dead BEAR/BVLLs

Fallout 76 > 3 > 1/2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NV

>>715321669
So are you a fan of NV or not?
It would make no sense if you aren't. Why would you spend an hour arguing with someone over being obsessed?
If you are a fan don't become obsessed like that old pathetic loser Morrowindfan.

>>715303509 (OP)
History is the study of great men. Hammurabi, Alexander the Great, Justinian, Hannibal, and so many more. If I listed off every person that had huge sweeping impact on a massive region I'd be here all day. Great men do big things. The only thing that video games often fudge is the timetable, and how long someone is resting from minor injuries, and scaling down allied, and enemy forces. Games like New Vegas have about 200 people in the entirety of a nations military.

>>715303509 (OP)
I don't believe this is a genuine thread and not just another jeet bait. You're welcome to attempt to convince me otherwise, OP, but your chances are slim to none.

>>715321927
So I was right again and you’re just arguing things you make up and that have no actual bearing on what has been said. And why deflect? It’s such a blatant and pathetic thing to do. You’re all but admitting you were wrong and are just trying to run and hope I won’t say anything. Just stop, it’s not hard, and you lose absolutely nothing from it. Or do you really care what a bunch of random strangers on an anonymous image board think of another random stranger that much?

>>715303509 (OP)
>Honestly /v/ I've come to think about something regarding CRPG's like fallout NV

the 3D fallouts aren't CRPGs.

My ideal rpg is small scale quest. When you think about stakes I real world. What sum of money is big enough that it matters to majority of people. 10k?
Same with lives. Every death counts.
With those parameters. I want adventure where you help little people. Screw them over or go for adventure to make it.
As for big adventure. I would want one where you play as iregular opposition in conquered country/city. Modeled after tactics of irelands iregular warfare and Iraq resistance.

>>715321496
>No, the fallout schizo is real. He wasn’t Indian though, he was some Italian.
No, he wasn't. There is a lot of "guaranteed" info about him because /v/ is generally very stupid likes to make shit up.

It was a joke, actually. One that went very much wrong, and then escalated to a very obnoxious and enduring meme.
It started with someone trying to make fun of Fo3 fans. It was a very obvious and very over-the-top satire of how stupid Fo3 fans tend to be. Down to using deliberately broken english for comedic effect.
Except, unfortunately, the NV fanbase turned out to not be quite as superior in intelligence to Fo3 fans as they would like to believe themselves to be, and this obvious satire on average Fo3 fanbase was taken genuinely seriously.

And you know what happens when something annoying gets a LOT of attention, right? A thousand fucking copycats flooded the place, because most of /v/ is just social media addicts who will do literally anything for any form of exposure.
And the poo in the loo meme was extremely easy to copy. The original guy already most comunicated in literally copy-pasted replies and his fake broken english was extremely basic and easy to mimic.

And that spawned several months of that shitshow. There was no actual indian, or italian, or romanian guy.
It was a smart-ass trying to make fun of Fo3's legendarily stupid fanbase turning into hundreds of attention-starved whores continuing the shared for "lulz" - which is to say, for a delusion of relevance and genuine social media addiction.

The Morrowindfag was likely a similar case too. A bit older than poo in the loo. No less obnoxious though.

>>715322265
have you played Jagged Alliance 2

>>715322095
You are the one that raised doubts as to whether you liked NV or not.
I was just seeking clarification.
Protip: If you are going to obsess over a video game it should be easy to claim you like it.
Which you haven't done yet for some reason. Why are you afraid to state your opinion on NV?

>>715322358
He is though. He is still spamming shit to this day and is constantly seething in every NV thread that is posted. And you can tell it’s him since he posts the same images with the same file names that date back all the way to when he started as well as saying the exact same shit. And all of the info about him checks out as well.

>>715322521
No I just said that I never defended it and you decided to jump on that after you outed yourself as making shit up again. Which is ironic since you’re making this whole thing comes from the fact that you made something up and claimed I said it.
>If you are going to obsess over a video game
Again, not obsessing over anything. That’s just another thing that you needed to tell yourself so you could project your own obsessive behavior onto me. You have so far outed yourself as being severely unhinged and not able to let go. I’ve given you the option to walk away multiple times and you can’t actually say why you’re still here or why you care about anyone’s opinion.

>>715304050
Kenshi? Running a shop, caravaneering and building farms and forges (the products of which you sell at your storefront or as contraband in cities) is basically all you do and most soldierly characters are on par with a late-game OC. Though even in that once you recruit enough characters to your party and they gain levels your group gets strong enough to start assassinating/kidnapping faction leaders and destabilizing towns if you desire.

With the effort put into the background lore of this boogeyman I am fairly certain anon is the Morrowindfan from TES threads. Same level of craftsmanship into background of his Cadre of boogeyman.
One question will confirm: Is there an infographic for said NV boogeyman? Morrowindfan loves him some infographics.

>>715322768
Still hasn't said if he liked it or not.
Odd thing to hide. It is not like it is some gotcha question.

>>715322768
> Not obsessed
Spent the last hour and a half arguing with a random anon over how he isn't obsessed.

Story does not check out.

>>715322574
>He is still spamming shit to this day and is constantly seething in every NV thread that is posted.
No. All of the supposed "identities" of this guy were based of completely idiotic assumptions, the italian guy was actually some moron who posted something in a similarly broken english once on some obscure forum, and no. The meme died long time ago. Again, the actual release of Starfield put an end to most of the Bethdrone clownfuckery. We barely even have a NV/Fo3 threads these days, this board has since long moved on to much more fruitful themes, namely gatcha games and literal personal blogging, since nobody can be even bothered to pretend this isn't just a worse twitter anymore.
Poo in a loo posting died long time ago, because it was so over-spammed it just eventually lost the novelty, people got wise to it, and as such, it stopped producing that engagement that fueled it in the first place.

I would say "good riddance" but this board only just got worse since then.

>>715322985
>Still hasn't said if he liked it or not
Because you’re trying to use the question to deflect away from your own failure because you embarrassed yourself.
>Odd thing to hide. It is not like it is some gotcha question
It is give that no matter what I say you’re going to find some issue. You already tried implying that if I didn’t like it then I’m stupid and obsessed like the schizo you keep bringing up. And if I say I did like it then you’ll say how I’m a fanboy defending it even though I have said nothing to defend it. You’re trying to force a catch 22 in the most blatant way possible.

>>715323146
So you’re going to start samefagging now to say how I’m obsessed. Or do you expect me to believe that out of all the times and after hours of absolutely nothing that a totally new person decides to butt in on the side of the guy who has been unable to argue anything.
>Spent the last hour and a half arguing with a random anon over how he isn't obsessed
So being able to articulate and say how you’re not obsessed while the person your arguing with just makes things up and repeats himself means you’re obsessed? Again why did you think this would work?

>>715323280
> I can't tell you if I like it because then you will respond.
That is called a conversation. Nothing to be afraid of.

>>715323483
Why do you think that is a new person?
Of course it was me making fun of you.

>>715323157
No it was based on steady observation, he was doing it everyday for years and didn’t stop until shartfield. The archives tell the whole thing.
>a similarly broken english once on some obscure forum
/a/ isn’t an obscure forum. Why would you think it is? It’s just another board on this site. How do you not know that?
>The meme died long time ago. Again, the actual release of Starfield put an end to most of the Bethdrone clownfuckery
That’s because he had a legit mental breakdown and stopped for a few months. He then came back and started posted only less frequently.

>>715323496
>>715323592
>I can't tell you if I like it because then you will respond
Once again, can’t argue what I actually said so he just makes something up to argue with instead.
>Of course it was me
So your a self admitted samefag that need to say it was mocking to cover the fact that your larp failed. And I know it’s a cover because you actually tried pretending to be another person.

>>715323483
> You're obsessed
> Not obsessed response : No I am not with no further interaction.
> Obsessed responce: Multiple blog posts over several hours explaing exactly how you are not obsessed.

>>715323824
What do you think samefagging is?
You are using it wrong.

>>715323862
>>715323941
>has to samefag again because he still can’t argue
So you’re just going full retard now.
>What do you think samefagging is
Replying to a post multiple times (usually while pretending to be another person) it’s in the name samefag, because you’re the same fag but I can see you need to deflect yet again because you can’t argue your schizophrenic brain is making up things to argue.

>>715323824
You still haven't answered why you thought that post was somebody different making fun of you.
Are you just stupid or did you have a reason?

>>715324054
So are you waiting for me to respond to your other posts so you can split up the chain? How pathetic are you going to get? You just keep sinking deeper and deeper into all of this.
>You still haven't answered why you thought that post was somebody different making fun of you
You’re the one that brought people making fun schizo, I just said you were pretending to be someone else. And that’s because you didn’t identify yourself and tried making it seem like you were someone else weighing in by referring to yourself as another anon and not just me while in a separate post from the main chain.

>>715324046
Samefagging is pretending to be multiple anons. You can tell someone is samefagging because they will drop an NTA to let you know they are pretending to be multiple anons.

What I did is called responding.

>>715323676
>No it was based on steady observation, he was doing it everyday for years and didn’t stop until shartfield.
The whole thing actually only lasted for like five months and then gradually died out.

>/a/ isn’t an obscure forum.
No, but that "italian" guy, who was literally one out of about six or seven identities ascribed to this thing which very obviously wasn't actually one guy, wasn't tracked via /a/. The alleged /a/ connection was actually "tracked" to some guy in Romania.

All of this was a joke. The poo in the loo was so painfully just a wave after wave of people doing an act you'd have to be braindamaged not to see it. Hell the fucking "accent", besides being literally a phonetic spelling of how kids imagine retards to speak, was not even remotely consistent through out even one single thread, much less between different threads. Besides the handful of buzzwords randomly invoking trannies, neither was the "argumentation".

It genuinely started as a satire, which never left much space for any kind of actual nuance a real person leaves behind. It was, genuinely, a boogyman. Like most "consistent" posters have been since tripfags faded into obscurity.

This is fucking /v/ for fuck sake. The biggest fucking whorehouse of the internet. You need to grow up if you want to keep up with this fucking cesspool.

>>715303509 (OP)
>Instead of being a god among men, maybe the better story is the one that makes it clear that your actions are small scale, and only have a limited effect.
this is already like 99% of open world games though. "changing the world" by having a cutscene tell you that you did does not count. The strength of open world games would be their sandbox element of letting the player play around with the game world itself by changing it. the fact that its not a thing for most open worlds is due to game companies shooting for the low bar.

>>715324198
Split the chain?
I am just responding to individual points individually.
Habit from TES threads. Morrowindfan gets easily confused, victim of a public education, so I keep it simple for him as a courtesy.

>>715303509 (OP)
>I like Fallout 3 much more than NV
Yeah that tracks. Only someone who thinks that the main character being a literal messiah, complete with sacrificing himself to save the world, is somehow a more restrained narrative than a story about a mailman mercenary, could be dumb enough to like fallout 3.

>>715322358
You know, I don't even actually mind the
>I was merely pretending
flavor of self-entertainment, but no matter how serious or unserious he was, he was a massive nuisance and ruined plenty of threads long before he caught on. Don't matter if he was an ebin prankster, it's the same kind of prank that a douchy youtuber would do, something like filming himself cutting people's headphones with scissors. Naturally, nobody would assume such a creature to be intelligent or good, so no benefit of the doubt was offered.

>>715324276
>>715324441
>Samefagging is pretending to be multiple anons
It’s not, but I see you’re also a newfag and a schizo. But that is exactly what you were doing, and when you were called out you tried to cope and say you were just making fun to cope, yet you can’t actually argue how that’s the case just like everything else you’ve said.
>What I did is called responding
But you already responded and then you samefagged pretending to be someone else.
>Split the chain
You know what you’re doing, you can respond to individual points via greentext which you have done throughout the whole thread. You’re doing this because you need to try and get to bump limit as fast as possible.
>Habit from TES threads. Morrowindfan gets easily confused
So you admit you do consider this to be a confusion tactic. You keep outing yourself more and more.
>inb4 responds to the last post right after this is posted
Glad you proved me right, I’m not going to fall for that.

>>715324335
>The whole thing actually only lasted for like five months
This goes back years, to at least early 2020s. You don’t seem to know much about this.
>No, but that "italian" guy, who was literally one out of about six or seven identities ascribed to this thing which very obviously wasn't actually one guy, wasn't tracked via /a/
He was though, he was posting shit there and then moved to /v/. I don’t know why you are so adamant to deny this. All of the evidence has been given prior and so far nothing has actually come up to refute it.
>The poo in the loo was so painfully just a wave after wave of people doing an act
No, that was from the fact that alongside his broken English his Fallout 3 headcanon was called the “golden enclave” which matched the name of an apartment complex in Delhi or some other pajeet city so people assumed from that he was Indian and it stuck. Especially after Bethesda revealed that shartfield was made by mostly pajeets and they hired pajeets to shill their other games.

>>715303509 (OP)
>Instead of being a god among men, maybe the better story is the one that makes it clear that your actions are small scale, and only have a limited effect.

This is why the Witcher books are overhated and actually kino in the slavic cultural context.

>>715324797
> So you admit by "splitting the chain" in order to not confuse simple minded anons you are trying to confuse anons.
That is the exact opposite of what is happening.

>>715324797
>Samefagging is not..
You are entitled to your own opinions. You are not entitled to your own definitions.

Play Mount and Blade warband without reading about the mechanics if you want to leave no impact on the game world even after hundreds of hours

>>715324797
You keep saying I pretended to be someone else.
How did you come to this conclusion?

>>715324797
If the thread hits the bump limit you can just start a new one.
They don't ration threads around here.

>>715303509 (OP)
I think people need some intrigue into a setting to really get invested. Personally I don't care much for story but I find Ultima 4 pretty interesting in this regard. You get transported into the world and everything is pretty calm and peaceful, and the main thing you're affecting is your own character.
Also the 3D fallout games aren't CRPGs

So did new Vegas create the modern audience or were they just attracted to it?

>>715325253
>>715325348
>>715325443
>>715325578
So this is the only point you could latch onto out of everything I said? What are you going to say that the rest was conveniently “incoherent babbling”?
>simple minded anons you are trying to confuse anons
Where do you get this? Do you have a some mental filter in your head that just adds on shit?
>You are not entitled to your own definitions
Show a solid definition for samefagging. What reference are you going to use for that?
>You keep saying I pretended to be someone else. How did you come to this conclusion
I said it right here >>715324198 and you had no response to it aside from harping on another point and using it to play dumb.
>If the thread hits the bump limit
So once again you can’t deny your own pathetic behavior and you instead just have to deflect.

>>715324670
>but no matter how serious or unserious he was, he was a massive nuisance and ruined plenty of threads long before he caught on
Trust me, I'm really, really not defending the poo in the loo. I will point out that it was also partly a fault of the idiots who kept feeding him. Unfortunately, I was kinda part of that problem myself.
But that does not mean it wasn't annoying, stupid and compounded on process of decomposition this site has been going through for... well, honestly, over a decade now.

It's shit, there is no excuse for it, it wasn't funny when it was still intended as satire, and it became cancerous when it flipped into being straight up "trolling". People people posting when they have literally nothing of worth to say is ALWAYS cancerous.

But I will stress out that most these most notorious "figures" of the last few years - including the pool in the loo and the Morrowindfag, aren't actually people. They are coagulate of idiots and attention-whores, products of this board becoming more and more fascinated with the sheer act of getting A RESPONSE in any way possible.

The Morrowindfag thing was running its hustle for a very long time, few years before the first poo in the loo post. And it's pretty obvious that it started with maybe one or two guys who were just being genuine retards (e.g. average modern beth fans), who helped to "establish" the meme. But it is also very obvious that it fairly quickly gained a life of its own, one born out of people locked into endless competition over who is going to be the most obnoxious, literally copy-and-pasting shit that proved to be a succesful bait, over and over, recreating the exact same threads for as long as people keep responding, because they are genuine addicts.

This is an incredibly important thing to understand about how /v/ has been working for the past 5+ years. It's driven by addiction to be seen. At literally any cost. Driven by people who are too boring to even be succesful trolls.

>>715325834
So your evidence of me pretending to be multiple anons is your post accusing me of being multiple anons.
If you aren't Morrowindfan then you are doing a hell of an imitation. Only he could be that gleefully stupid.

>>715325834
Try urban dictionary if you want to find out what samefagging is. It will be very helpful once you do.

>>715325834
> Where do you get this?
This you?>>715324797

>>715325069
>This goes back years, to at least early 2020s. You don’t seem to know much about this.
That is pretty funny considering that you yourself claimed that poo in the loo thing has been still happening, until I fucking corrected you.

Nah, it is my fucking curse and fucking shame that I actually know A LOT about this thing.

>He was though, he was posting shit there and then moved to /v/.
I'm tired of repeating myself. No. People made that shit up because it was better than admitting to themselves they have been fooled by the most blatant and retarded le epic meme trolling imaginable.

It's easier to invent a fucking boogyman that to admit that you are a moron who got sucked into a pointless time-wasting argument with someone who very clearly isn't serious in the first place.

>his Fallout 3 headcanon was called the “golden enclave” which matched the name of an apartment complex in Delhi or some other pajeet city so people assumed from that he was Indian and it stuck.
No, you fucking retard. He never said anything about "golden enclave", and people called him "indian" purely because it resembled the most exaggerated and stereotypical indian accent imaginable. There was nothing else to it.

He was talking in the most stupid way he could, and surprise surprise, that made him sound similar to a dumb comedy stereotype. There was nothing else to it. No "golden enclave" no fucking appartment in Dehli, no fucking connection to /a/ or /tg/ or anything else: all of that shit was made up, because we didn't like to admit to ourselves that we got worked out by something so blatantly fucking fake and stupid.

Every single one of the dozen identities ascribed to the poo in the loo was a COPE from people who didn't want to admit they were trolled in the most obvious and childish way possible.

As I said, the whole thing started as a satire of Fo3 fanbase, but ended up reflecting very, very poorly on the NV fans instead.

>>715326079
>>715326308
>>715326475
>So your evidence of me pretending to be multiple anons is your post accusing me of being multiple anons
So you still can’t argue or deny what I said so you have to continue to ignore it.
>If you aren't Morrowindfan then you are doing a hell of an imitation
So you’ve dropped all pretense and are saying I’m the schizo which you constantly argue with? Even though I have done nothing to show that an everything you have to say that I am has been made up.
>Try urban dictionary
There are multiple definitions of samefag their though.
>This you
Yeah, but where in the post were the words that I greentexted, schizo? Can you point them out? You can’t because they only exist in your head.

>>715326708
I did argue that your evidence of me pretending to be multiple anons being your post accusing me of being multiple anons was retarded.
I stand by that assessment.

>>715326708
> So you.. are saying I am the schizo..
I said what I said and unless you are the victim of a public education it is very clear.

>>715326708
> There are multiple definitions
Did any match what you claimed it meant?
Did any match what I claimed it meant?

>>715326587
>That is pretty funny considering that you yourself claimed that poo in the loo thing has been still happening
It’s still happening because like I said Bethesda revealed that they hired pajeets to work on shartfield and have pajeets shilling their other games.
>until I fucking corrected you
You didn’t, also why are you getting upset all of a sudden? What agitated you in my last post? Are you upset about the idea that his posts were happening before you said they were. If so why does being wrong about this cause such a reaction?
>Nah, it is my fucking curse and fucking shame that I actually know A LOT about this thing
You sound like a narcissist.
>I'm tired of repeating myself. No. People made that shit up
They didn’t, here is proof of the retard https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/lOfRtwzw7zfzId9Vk62KIg%3D%3D/page/4/
Notice anything? And there are much more just like it.
>No, you fucking retard. He never said anything about "golden enclave"
He did, it was the name of his headcanon.
>There was nothing else to it. No "golden enclave" no fucking appartment in Dehli
Again you’re very upset about this being pointed out for some reason. Why does the idea that people don’t believe what you’re saying bother you? It should be no skin off your nose if people continue to believe there is a random schizophrenic retard wasting his life on here seething daily and shitting himself about a game.

>>715303509 (OP)
Is this just a long-winded way of saying you think F3 is the better game?

>>715326708
> Where did I...
It is your post. Read it. Take your time.

>>715326850
>>715326992
>>715327070
>I did argue that your evidence of me pretending to be multiple anons being your post accusing me of being multiple anons was retarded
You didn’t, you’re just repeating yourself because you can’t argue what I said.
>I said what I said
Which was basically that I was your personal hate idol or that it was an impression. Which is what people say when they are accusing people of shit.
>Did any match what you claimed it meant
One, but the other didn’t, and both were older.
>Did any match what I claimed it meant
Yeah, the two that were older.
>It is your post
It’s not, and all you do about that is be condescending and seethe over that fact. Christ you’re like a woman.

>>715306172
>FO3
>NV
>The 90s

>>715327365
Not a single definition on urban dictionary matched what you thought it meant.

>>715327365
> Which was basically...
Your poor reading comprehension rivals Morrowindfan.
Is English your native language?

>>715327365
> It's not
In this post you claim it is yours
>>715326708

Which is it?

>>715327470
How did FO3s slide shows work out?

>>715309214
>core idea of roleplaying: embracing a role that isn't natural to you
Then go play a train sim or something. That's literally what it is, except he entire game is dedicated to that role. What you're asking for is a singular game that lets you do everything. Which would end up a bloated mess with no direction. In fact, if you're entire criteria is "embracing a role that isn't natural to you" I could be a pontificating faggot and say that describes literally every game, and therefore it's all escapism.

>>715327480
>>715327586
>>715327680
>Not a single definition on urban dictionary matched what you thought it meant
This is what I said
>Replying to a post multiple times (usually while pretending to be another person) it’s in the name samefag
And this was the first definition “When you submit a post to a thread and nobody responds, sign up with a couple of extra accounts. Make each of those accounts bump your post to make it more popular. This happens a lot on Digg, 4Chan, and so on” there are not accounts here but it still the same shit.
>Your poor reading comprehension rivals Morrowindfan
More like you know you can’t argue what I said so you have to say that to cope. You can’t even fully quote what I said. You can only put in part of it then try to misconstrue it.
>In this post you claim it is yours
Show in that post where I said “So you admit you do consider this to be a confusion tactic. You keep outing yourself more and more” and not “So you admit by "splitting the chain" in order to not confuse simple minded anons you are trying to confuse anons” so what’s your cope now? Going to deflect? Pretend it’s a joke? Ignore it?
>still can’t argue how it’s not evidence
You have a very obvious pattern that you hate people calling out but can’t break away from.

>>715327932
> more like you know...
Why would I argue your misinterpretation of what I said?

>>715327103
>It’s still happening because like I said Bethesda revealed that they hired pajeets to work on shartfield and have pajeets shilling their other games.
Come the fuck on, at this point you are not even coherent.

>You didn’t, also why are you getting upset all of a sudden?
I'm just tired of your endless stupidity.

>You sound like a narcissist.
Yes. Fucking cursing yourself is exactly what narcissists do. Holy shit you people so fucking stupid. Again... how are you even alive?

>They didn’t, here is proof of the retard
Did you... did you not even look at the link you yourself posted? What the everloving fuck is this shit? And how do you avoid drowning in your morning cereals?

Yeah. I noticed something. The fact that none of the posts in your archive link in any way resembles the poo in a loo thing. It's people who saved the images during the poo in a loo threads a year ago, and now repost them reminiscing over the dumb meme.

>He did, it was the name of his headcanon.
You... you weren't here a year ago, were you?

>Again you’re very upset about this being pointed out for some reason.
I'm tired of dealing with people too stupid to live. You are one of them. It's incredibly exhausting to deal with people this completely braindead.

>>715327886
>That's literally what it is, except he entire game is dedicated to that role. What you're asking for is a singular game that lets you do everything.
Holy shit child, just do not talk. Ever.

>>715327932
> And this was first...
Why do you think that is important? Do you not know how dictionaries work?

>>715327932
> Show in the post where I said...
You did that for me. Thanks.

>>715328204
I accept your surrender.

>>715328330
Yeah, you accept a lot of things that don't exist. That is kinda my problem.

>>715328494
That and not knowing how a dictionary works.

>>715328157
>Come the fuck on, at this point you are not even coherent
Why is it not coherent? The logic holds up, Bethesda was being memed as a company that appeals to pajeets and they ended up hiring pajeets to make shartfield and shill their other games. That’s not a stretch.
>I'm just tired of your endless stupidity
So far you have not been able to argue or disprove anything I have said and are just repeating yourself. You’re getting very mad for no reason about me not believing and openly contradicting what you’re saying. Which doesn’t make sense.
Yes. Fucking cursing yourself is exactly what narcissists do
It wasn’t really a curse. You were calling it that sarcastically and now that it’s been called out you have to say your were being genuine to save face.
>Did you... did you not even look at the link you yourself posted
Yeah I did and it shows his activities
>What the everloving fuck is this shit
The evidence which you’re not arguing or denying and just seething over.
>And how do you avoid drowning in your morning cereals
How do you avoid taking your meds.
>It's people who saved the images during the poo in a loo threads
Even though that the file names don’t really change over the course of years. Your new cope fell flat immediately.
>You... you weren't here a year ago, were you
This started more than a year ago, like I said already.
>I'm tired of dealing with people too stupid to live
So you finally going to hang yourself and not have to deal with being you? I encourage you to do it, maybe then these threads can have some peace.

>>715303509 (OP)
Why haven't we gotten a sequel yet?

>>715328221
>>715328269
>Why do you think that is important
So you go from “Not a single definition on urban dictionary matched what you thought it meant” to this? Talk about moving the goalpost.
>You did that for me. Thanks
So you’re not going to try to say you didn’t make that up and that you’re making shit up? Cool.

>>715328869
No I asked why you thought the first definition was important.
You even quoted it.
You haven't answered why you think it yet.

>>715328869
At no point did I claim the post you quoted of your quote was fake.
It is actually the linchpin of my assertion.
So thank you for that.

>>715328687
>Why is it not coherent?
It's literally a nonsequiter, you absolute retard.

>So far you have not been able to argue or disprove anything I have said
I don't have to disprove anything, you actually do a solid job of that yourself.

>Yes. Fucking cursing yourself is exactly what narcissists do
... what do you think the word "narcissist" means?

>Yeah I did and it shows his activities
It LITERALLY shows the exact opposite. It's just right there. In front of you. Posts that are OBVIOUSLY not the poo in the loo. Post in perfect English. posts talking about how they like NV.

You are genuinely broken on the most fundamental level that a human being could ever be broken.

>The evidence which you’re not arguing or denying and just seething over.
I'm not arguing against or denying evidence that PROVES ME RIGHT YOU FUCKING CRETIN.
THOSE POSTS ARE NOT POO IN A LOO. PROVING THAT HE IS NOT FUCKING ACTIVE ANYMORE.

>How do you avoid taking your meds.
Look above. Look at the shit you just posted.

>Even though that the file names don’t really change over the course of years
Did you not know that when you save a file from a thread, it will be saved under the same name it was originally posted?

>This started more than a year ago, like I said already.
You lied. Like you do this whole time. Everything you say is either retarded or a lie. Whe the fuck do thing I'm so frustrated with you, you delusional cretin?

>>715329015
>>715329131
>No I asked why you thought the first definition was important
Yeah which is your attempt to move the goalpost after being proven wrong. And you’re just doubling down on that to cope. If if you’re going to do this I’ll say that it’s important because you said none of the definitions matched what I said and I was saying that not only was that wrong but the first result proved you wrong.
>At no point did I claim the post you quoted of your quote was fake
I never said you did, I said you were making shit up, which you did since I never said what you claimed I did and you even admitted that I showed it to you and you had no issue with it or said that I did say it after so you did in fact make up what you claimed that I said. But keep seething and adding in those little passive aggressive remarks, it really shows the level of childish bitchiness you’ve reached which in turn exemplifies everything I’ve been calling out.

>>715329139
>It's literally a nonsequiter
Learn what words mean schizo. It ties directly into it. The Italian made people think that Bethesda was all about appealing to pajeets and then when shartfield came out it revealed that they hired them as well as hired pajeets to shill their other games which in turn reinforced the meme. This isn’t hard to understand. Which is why I know you’re playing dumb while seething.
>I don't have to disprove anything, you actually do a solid job of that yourself
I don’t, you’re just saying that to cope. You can’t elaborate on how that’s actually the case.
>Yes. Fucking cursing yourself is exactly what narcissists do
So you’re going to pretend that that was a quote and not that I missed the arrow on the greentext? Good to know you can’t argue what I said.
>It LITERALLY shows the exact opposite
It doesn’t, it shows exactly what I said and all you can do is just repeat yourself while pretending it’s not there.
>Posts that are OBVIOUSLY not the poo in the loo
If by poo in the loo you mean the schizo then yes it is. But keep saying what amounts to “nu uh” over and over without anything to back it up.
>You are genuinely broken on the most fundamental level that a human being could ever be broken
Says the schizo that’s having a temper tantrum over being proven wrong in 4chan. Speaking of.
>I'm not arguing against or denying evidence that PROVES ME RIGHT YOU FUCKING CRETIN
It doesn’t prove you right and you can’t actually say how it does. You’re just making empty statements with nothing behind them.
>Look above. Look at the shit you just posted
“No u” how typical. Like I said take your meds.
>Did you not know that when you save a file from a thread, it will be saved under the same name it was originally posted
Except that’s not how that works. Especially if it’s being done on a phone which he mostly posts from.
>You lied
Really? Did the archives lie as well? Are you just going to deny reality.

>>715329310
> Yeah...
It wasn't moving the goalposts. I was legit wondering why you thought the first definition mattered. I truly don't think you know how dictionaries work.
That belief grows stronger with each of your replies.

>>715329310
> I never...
Everything in that sentence before the comma is contradicted by what you wrote after the comma.

>>715329885
>It wasn't moving the goalposts
It was, and now that you’ve failed at both you are saying you were being genuine about something that was extremely obvious. Or did you not understand how saying that the first result that shows up matching what I said is relevant to the situation? If so you’re telling me you’re not very intelligent.
>I truly don't think you know how dictionaries work
You mean you don’t think that a dictionary will show multiple definitions and that the main definition is not shown first?
>Everything in that sentence before the comma is contradicted by what you wrote after the comma
If that were true you would have been able to elaborate on it here, but since you’re not you’re just talking out of your ass. Now what’s next, deflection, doubling down, pretending it was a joke, or half assed post hoc elaboration which will be immediately shot down only for you to go back to the first three options I listed?

>>715329819
>Learn what words mean schizo.
That is funny coming from a person who just said self-cricism is a textbook symptom of being a narcissist.

>I don’t, you’re just saying that to cope.
You just posted a link that proves that poo in the loo is no longer active. You also admited to not know how saving pictures work on this board.

>So you’re going to pretend that that was a quote
It was a direct quote your posts. Literally copy and paste.
I also ask you a question. And you failed to answer it. You genuinely just admited that you don't know what the word narcissist means.

>It doesn’t, it shows exactly what I said
You said that poo in a loo is active. Those posts prove he isn't. There is nothing else to talk about.

>f by poo in the loo you mean the schizo then yes it is.
Yeah. Except those posts do not even remotely resemble the poos posting style. Being literally in a different language and expressing exactly OPPOSITE opinions.

As I said. You are broken on a level so fundamental that you can't be even considered a human anymore.

>It doesn’t prove you right and you can’t actually say how it does.
Except for the fact that these posts aren't in broken english and aren't even hostile towards NV.

>“No u” how typical. Like I said take your meds.
You don't understand what "No U" means either.

Your lack of a grasp on english is actually fascinating.

>Especially if it’s being done on a phone which he mostly posts from.
That reveals so much more about you than you wanted... fucking hell, kid. I feel so fucking sorry for the crack whore that pissed you into this world. Guess your existence makes that her AIDS look like a trivial misfortune.

>>715330285
>That is funny coming from a person who just said self-cricism is a textbook symptom of being a narcissist
I didn’t say that though. You’re pretending I did because you can’t argue honestly.
>You just posted a link that proves that poo in the loo is no longer active
No I didn’t, the archive showed that Italian retard posting this year.
>You also admited to not know how saving pictures work on this board
So you’re just going to make more empty statements without being able to back them up.
>It was a direct quote your posts
You know what the fuck I was trying to do. It was supposed to be a greentext but I forgot the arrows. It was literally copypasta from your post before it. The fact that you’re trying this shit just shows you know you’re wrong and can’t actually defend what you’re saying.
>You said that poo in a loo is active. Those posts prove he isn't
You mean a post made this year shows he’s not active? How much are you going to lie to yourself?
>Yeah. Except those posts do not even remotely resemble the poos posting style
They do, and you’re only bringing this up now after your other argument failed and you know that. It’s all the same rambling horseshit.
>You are broken on a level so fundamental that you can't be even considered a human anymore
Gibbering the same shit, another schizo hallmark.
>Except for the fact that these posts aren't in broken english and aren't even hostile towards NV
Most of them are hostile given the image is a meme shitting on it.
>You don't understand what "No U" means either
Says the retard that didn’t know what a nonsequiter was and hasn’t said shit about it after being told off. You always drop shit and pretend it didn’t happen when you’re proven wrong. Another narcissistic trait.
>That reveals so much more about you than you wanted... fucking hell, kid
You mean that I have posted from a phone at one point? Looks like you’re grasping at straws.

>>715330760
>I didn’t say that though.
Your own words.
>Yes. Fucking cursing yourself is exactly what narcissists do

>No I didn’t, the archive showed that Italian retard posting this year.
No, the link showed people are using the same picture he used. Which you mistook for evidence that it is the same guy, because you don't know how computers work.

>So you’re just going to make more empty statements without being able to back them up.
You literally just admitted that you don't know how this board works on a PC.

>You know what the fuck I was trying to do.
I know you admitted not knowing what the word "narcissism" means THREE TIMES. And you literally looked at an exact copy of your own post and said "NOPE, I DIDN'T SAY THAT", twice.

>You mean a post made this year shows he’s not active?
Yes. Since that post was obviously not made by him. Again, you being a zoomer who does not understand how PC works, you thought the file name proves it's the same person. The filename isn't unique to a poster. When you save a picture from a thread on a PC, and you don't manually change the file name, it will remain the same as it was when it was originally posted.
You didn't know this because again: zoomers don't understand how file names work anymore, because your entire braindead generation only uses smartphones.

But the fact that you haven't realized that posts in perfect english talking favorably about NV aren't the poo's doing cannot be excused by you being a zoomer. That is just... complete collapse of any cognitive functionality.

>Most of them are hostile given the image is a meme shitting on it.
That... is not how it works. People can post images ironically, you know? Actually: You don't.

>You mean that I have posted from a phone at one point?
I mean the fact that you don't know how PC's work. At all.

>>715303509 (OP)
You think one person can't change the world? They can and I'll tell you how. Quicksaving. That's the only reason the story never ends with your death, you just reload and continue until you succeed.

>>715331198
>Your own words
No, those were your words that I copy pasted. Which I have explained and you are choosing to ignore because it’s the only thing you can latch onto.
>No, the link showed people are using the same picture he used
With the same filenames and the same bullshit. Which you tried saying meant nothing only to be proven wrong again. So you’re just repeating yourself to cope like you have this whole time.
>You literally just admitted that you don't know how this board works on a PC
No, I said that’s how it works on phones which he uses most of the time and you’re trying to use that against me because you can’t argue what I’ve said.
>I know you admitted not knowing what the word "narcissism" means THREE TIMES
Making up delusions so you can’t be wrong. Another narcissistic trait. Especially retarded since I explained how you were and all you can do is harp on a text error to cope.
>Yes. Since that post was obviously not made by him
And you have no proof for that and can only say it’s people copying him despite it being the exact same file, the exact same behavior, and the exact same shit being said that has always been said and all the threads follow the exact same pattern. Look I’ll cut the shit. If you want people to not think you’re here maybe don’t flip the fuck out the second you get push back. I mean you’ve been at this for over a fucking hour and all you’ve done is show the same retarded childish shit you always do.
>That... is not how it works
So no actual argument?
>People can post images ironically, you know
“It’s just a joke bro” fails when it’s that fucking ubiquitous.
>I mean the fact that you don't know how PC's work. At all
Desperate copes for a dead thread. Nice one Fabio. I’m going out for a bit. I’m sure you’ll finish your next reply in the next 30 minutes.

>>715303824
cuckold westoid self inserter is seething that the game gives him too much control and influence which takes him out of the self inserting experience

>>715331767
>No, those were your words that I copy pasted
Actually, fair enough. This one is mostly on me.
You fucked up the quotation, but I should have read through your post more carefully.

Then again, that makes me realize there is yet another word you don't actually understand.
"Sacrasm".

You still don't know what narcissim is, and apparently, don't understand what sarcasm is either.

>With the same filenames and the same bullshit
We have been over the fact that you don't understand how filenames work. As for the content, it's right up there.

>No, I said that’s how it works on phones which he uses most of the time
You made that shit up, because you haven't realized that filenames aren't unique to posters.

You make a LOT of shit up.

>Making up delusions so you can’t be wrong.
Not at all, but more importantly, how does that relate to anything I've said?
This is a rethorical question, by the way. At this point, I cannot give a single fuck about your answers, you sad critter.

>And you have no proof for that
I have. those posts aren't even remotely consistent with what the poo posted. Your only evidence is the fact that you don't know filenames don't change on saving a file.

>So no actual argument?
You don't understand that picture isn't a 100% entire representation of a stance in a post. There really isn't any further argument needed.

>“It’s just a joke bro”
People are making callbacks to a notorious meme, child.

Fuck me this was one of the most depressing experiences I had on this cesspool in a long while. And I had to deal with you for few hours. Anyone who actually has to deal with you on daily basis must be... well, how many people in your immediate surroundings have committed suicide recently?

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> Actually, fair enough. This one is mostly on me
It took you three posts of me explaining that to finally admit this? What did you have a moment of clarity and realize it wasn’t working?
>Then again, that makes me realize there is yet another word you don't actually understand.
"Sacrasm”
Yeah, I don’t know what that means because that’s not a word. See I can be a thick headed retard as well. But in all seriousness I used that word correctly since if you say something sarcastically you’re not being serious.
>You still don't know what narcissim is
That’s be a that’s not a word, I do know what narcissism is; and I have called various tendencies of it which you have shown
>We have been over the fact that you don't understand how filenames work
Except I do. When you save a pic it doesn’t copy the file name on PC or on a phone. I don’t know why you’re trying to push this.
>You made that shit up
Oh is that the cope you’re going with now after your last one failed? And not when I said it the first few times.
>You make a LOT of shit up
Just can’t stop projecting can you?
>Not at all, but more importantly, how does that
You mean how does my answer to what you said relate to it? Does baby need to be spoonfed?
>This is a rethorical question, by the way. At this point, I cannot give a single fuck about your answers
If you didn’t care you wouldn’t keep replying.
>I have. those posts aren't even remotely consistent with what the poo posted
Except they are and you have nothing concrete to show otherwise outside of saying “nu uh” over and over.
>You don't understand that picture isn't a 100% entire representation of a stance in a post
Yeah which is why I pointed out other shit like the file name, what he says, how he says it, and the rest of the thread which the pics are posted.
>People are making callbacks to a notorious meme
So you pretending that you’re joking about a point you btfo on is just a callback? Again shit cope.

>>715334520
>Fuck me this was one of the most depressing experiences I had on this cesspool in a long while
Is it because you outed yourself as a schizo trying to make people think he isn’t real only to go apeshit the second he gets push back. And if you want to cry schizo back at me for saying that, I’ll just point out that you ignored it when I said this shit in the other post.
>And I had to deal with you for few hours
Had to? No one was forcing you to be here. Or are you one of the jannies or mods? In which case I don’t even have to say how pathetic you are that just speaks for itself.
>how many people in your immediate surroundings have committed suicide
Man you can always tell when you have supremely pissed someone off when they have to try and dig for these little bits to upset you. Mind you this started all over me just saying “yeah the schizo is just one guy” and he went apeshit from there.