Thread 715310040

How the turns have tabled
Remember when we doomed that Uma Musume wouldn't stand a chance against Persona?
I do because I was that guy

This is how you gachafags look.

I guarantee you whatever "drama" made the score low is fucking retarded and doesn't apply to the 99% of players who don't try to meta poopsock a f2p jarpig.

>>715310040 (OP)
What in the ever loving fuck happened that a gacha managed to get abyssmal ratings

I kneel, Spe-chan...

>>715312380
Not enough freebies, pop ups to buy tickets and junk, there’s already 3 featured characters with two them having 12 days left. They’re just looking to cash in on retards that can’t help but whale to get every character in this rapid fire release

>>715312380
both uma and p5x are speeding up to the latest content ASAP. Difference is that Uma is properly compensating players for it while P5X is heavily punishing players by giving less rewards than the chinese version and removing QOL features like a better pity system the chinese version has.

>>715312380
P5X EN is the worst skinnerbox gacha on the market. Horribly balanced and because of speed up there's no chance to get anything good by being f2p, so you're left in the dust as the game gets harder expecting you to have better stuff at your disposal

>>715310040 (OP)
>1.6
Jesus. Shutdown is inevitable in the next 12 months.

>>715310040 (OP)
did they not learn from Infinity Nikki?

>>715310040 (OP)
What happened? Subway Slammer filtering people?

>>715310040 (OP)
Whatever happened to blue archive? Weren't people also saying that uma wouldn't stand a chance against it?

>>715313465
blue archive's fanbase filtered people by being too into cunny

>>715313285
the global release is running an accelerated schedule without considering people's ability to save gems in a shortened timeframe. This is like poison to 'gacha veterans' and they are all fearing the pump and dump into EoS they are so familiar with

>>715313465
BA gets shilled to death but it barely makes any money.

>>715310040 (OP)
The Uma Musume phenomenon made me realize how old I am. It’s the first viral sensation to make me go “I am too old for this shit”.

>>715313465
It's a astroturfed piece of shit that's skilled as a waifu game. A waifu game where your girls get tentacle raped in game but no on actually plays it to know that

>b-but what about BLUE ARCHIVE
Rent
FREE

>>715314395
you seem mad

>>715310040 (OP)
Blue Archive status?

what about nikke or arknights?

>>715310040 (OP)
chinese people can't make gacha, just like they can't make real games

>>715313465
What people are you talking about? In the /v/ BA threads I haven't really seen anyone saying that after the global announcements.

A Digimon game with training and battling would blow both out of the water.

>>715314243
that fucking image kek

>>715314780
Too bad they refuse to make good digimon games.

>>715314395
Rent free is exactly what I'd use to describe BA fans considering how often you keep shitposting in uma threads.

>>715314780
Capcom constantly kills their own gacha games after sabotaging them. We've had like 5 tales gachas and 4 digimon gachas, each dies within a year or two.

>>715313465
Blue Archive has been out globally on mobile for years.

Persona is ugly as fuck necer liked that dogshit artstyle especially the eyes

>>715315249
Fuck, I meant bandai.

>>715315290
>Blue Archive has been out globally on mobile for years
So?

>>715310040 (OP)
I wish I could play the funny anime horsegirl game but it didn't release here due to gambling laws. Even if I VPNed it, I would be eternal F2P. That sucks.

>>715310040 (OP)
Persona phantom X will have long term cultural relevance with the subway slammer
Nobody will remember any horses in 15 years

Sex > Story

>>715310040 (OP)
Personaflop pfhahaahaha

>>715310040 (OP)
>1.6
what the fuck, is it that bad?

>>715315903
Grudgeposting this

Haven't seen something go from niche to mainstream this fast since Higurashi Gousotsu.

>>715313465
The only one saying that was the schizo though

>>715315363
It's not fair to compare it to games that just came out on mobile.

>>715316348
yes it is

>>715310410
That's an insult to the retards. At least they aren't morally bankrupt, too.

>>715312665
Persona has been a cash grab series ever since FES. Going up on ten years since Persona 5 and not a single hint of Persona 6

>>715316572
Nta, but it's not. The Steam release is just a QOL for the people who already played on an emulator. Most people have already done most of the content via mobile.

>>715313465
They called it the "FGO killer" and "next touhou"
Turns out the only thing it killed was itself

>>715317807
redman-sama.....stop bullying us...

>>715315903
There are statues of the horses already.

>>715316139
If you play it without intention to get every character and 6 copies for stat bonuses then its alrightish
Story is on the same level of bad as 5
But yeah rates and how much pulls you got are bad

>>715314780
Best we're getting is a hopefully good card mobile game.

>>715311213
Nope, it's because of kikery on Sega's part. They lowered the free gacha currency you earn while also removing soft pity.

>>715310040 (OP)
>most gacha games that crossover with Persona 5 are cursed to flop or straight up die
>make a Persona 5 Gacha
>starts flop and dying

>>715310410
fpbp

*samefags*

>>715314631
Arknights has been dead for a while.
Nikke is crashing and burning due to a huge nosedive in writing as of late plus the CN server drama where the CN server got a bunch of QoL that no other server has.

>>715317807
Post the comiket numbers fatekek.

>>715318963
Oof

>>715313465
It was never popular. Nexon always just made it seem more popular than it really was.

>>715310040 (OP)
>Remember when we doomed that uma musume wouldn't stand a chance against persona?
No, because you're making shit up. No one expected ether gachas to do well. Uma just surprised people because how different it was and it kind of took off

>>715319046
>It was never popular
>Can't walk 5 meters without seeing an ad panel for it in Tokyo
Sure thing blud.

>>715319196
astroturfing marketing =/= popularity
Who do you think paid for those ads gigaretard? the players?

>>715319375
That anon is so retarded he probably thinks they put them up for free, lol.

>>715319375
>>715319435
fully grassroots advertising put up by the devoted fans you chuds

>>715310040 (OP)
4.2 sounds pretty low for something doing as many waves as it is thoughever

Is slick surge fucking useless? I had it on nice nature and never seen it proc. with 470+ Wit

>>715319021
Man Touhou really fell off huh

>>715310040 (OP)
Ratings are dumb, but Umamusume is literally just a reskinned version of that Jap horse racing game that got released years ago. Like exact same mechanics and everything.

Anyway, Bankushin Speedo numba wan

>>715313465
rent free

>>715319663
It's actually higher now, also 4.1 sounds pretty low for something as "popular" as BA don't you think?

>>715319832
Touhou moved to their own con because they realized they can never compete with CHADarchive.

>>715319021
God damn I hate gachas and vtubers so much

>>715319375
>>715319435
There's the cope.

kitasan money coming in soon

>>715315903
EOS next year if they keep mismanaging like this.

>>715320089
>687 ratings vs 4.9k ratings

>>715320489
5.0 soon

>>715310040 (OP)
persona is good thougbeit

>>715320597
I like P5X, but Sega is very clearly fucking Global over which is why the rating is so low.

>>715313903
Nice chinky chart zhang.

>>715315903
To be honest uma is run by Cygames and their gachas are exceptionally jewish, I imagine the playerbase will drop after the first two month generosity period ends

>>715320782
>1.75
more like x3

>>715320885
>it will be over in a week!
>It will be over in 2 weeks once the streamers leave!
>It will be over in 2 months!
pathetic

>>715320782
Don't more women use iOS?
At least that's the case in the west. I'm starting to understand the Love and Deepspace numbers.

The Horse Girl game

HAS

NO

GAMEPLAY

YOU DO NOT TAP BUTTONS TO RACE
YOU DO NOT "PLAY" THE GAME.
IT ISN'T A GAME.

IT
IS
JUST
MENU
CHOICES
AND
NOTHING
ELSE

At least Persona 5 X has a fucking GAME to play around it.

>>715321005
sensortower is ai generated bullshit in the first place, mobile gaming space is literally the only place i see numbers like these coming up and being taken as gospel

>>715321382
no gacha "game" has gameplay
every gachatard likes to pretend that theirs has gameplay but it's all cope

>>715320782
>>715321005
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF CHINKS

>>715321482
How does the Persona 5 game not have gameplay? I can go grind mobs. Do batting cages. Play a ton of missions with persona I fucking chose and not some on-rails shit.

>>715314395
>VALVE IS TRYING TO STOP BLUE ARCHIVE
>IT WILL TAKE OVER THE WORLD
>DEEP VALVE STATE IS TRYING TO KILL BA BUT WE WILL WIN
>OUR VALVE GUY WILL SAVE US AND BRING JUSTICE
You BAniggers kept shitting up the board for weeks so explain yourself faggot, whats up with your shitty mobile game ?

>>715310040 (OP)
Atlus can suck my cock after the shit they pulled Soul Hackers 2 and making SMT V a payed beta test. Umamusume unironically has more dignity.

>>715321482
define "gameplay"

>>715310040 (OP)
Devs far overestimated "Persona" fans. They don't even fucking play the games. Why would they even touch a gacha? No one has yet to explain what The Phantom X is about aside from memeing the Subway Slammer guy.

Horse girl game went incredibly viral but it's difficult to see if it has the legs to keep attention of the mainstream crowd. Genshin Impact went though the same thing but cratered into oblivion in less than 4 months, only SEA monkeys and chinks play the game now. It really depends if Cygames keeps the freebee train going.

>>715321482
p5x unironically has more depth than the game it's based on

>>715322031
>Horse girl game went incredibly viral but it's difficult to see if it has the legs to keep attention of the mainstream crowd. Genshin Impact went though the same thing but cratered into oblivion in less than 4 months, only SEA monkeys and chinks play the game now. It really depends if Cygames keeps the freebee train going.
Obviously not, Genshin had longer staying power mainly because it was an actual GAME and not some VN with autobattling bullshit, it was the only one of its kind back then before the clones came out, the omnipandering also helped, they attracted coomers with mona, fujos with diluc, femboy fags with venti and lolicons with qiqi and such, a bit of everything.
I really do not see Uma last that long once normalfags and streamers move on and its playerbase will stabilize, I see it as a trend like any other game blown up by streamers.

>>715310040 (OP)
>mobile games
Ironic weebs turned anime into tranime

>>715319046
The Blue Archive characters are popular. Blue Archive the game is irredeemable ass and that is why Nexon has been trying to develop a replacement for the game.

>>715317807
BA mindbroke you.

>>715320391
What have they messed up so far?

>>715323391
didn't include the Soft Pity system in the English server even though other servers had it
thats all i know

>>715321382
princess makers are a real genre and if you want to try and tell me Tokimeki Memorial doesn't have gameplay I will tell you I wanna slap you upside the head for saying something so stupid.

>>715323265
Any character can be popular if you bought enough artists to draw their art.

>>715324158
What a fucking scummy company.

>>715324636
oh boo hoo, they cancelled that event

>>715313465
It's dumb to compare the two.

>Blue Archive (which had a global release years ago) gets a steam release
>One less reason to use an emulator
>Uma Musume gets a global release
>More normies

>>715325116
They got away with it too. 10k free reviews without having to pay their players what was promised and Gaben still can't touch them.

>>715310040 (OP)
Even gacha-Persona is falling victim to its own curse in Global lmao

>>715312935
Why do they Chinese versions always have better QoL features? I know Nikke released there after a year or two and their version has so many better features that everyone else was complaining non-stop.
They still haven't updated the global version.

>>715325734
>Chinks care about their fellow chinks
Jesus christ this is big news.

>>715313465
>>715315118
>>715321658
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tnum/715142241/deleted/deleted/
Botted seethe
Imagine being this obsessed

>>715310040 (OP)
You think that's bad? I remember when this was one of the posterboys for the japanese humor meme. Now normies in English speaking countries find it funny. That's a turning of the tables and a half.

>>715321482
Gacha games have gameplay, what they lack is actual progression.
>Play normal game.
>Complete levels, beat hard bosses for cool things like items, unlockable characters, etc.
>Play gacha game.
>Game only gives you a handful of free units, everything else you're expected to unlock by rolling RNG.
>Every accomplishment you make is rewarded with being drip fed pennies of rolling currency, regardless of how difficult or time consuming it was.
>No matter how much time you spend farming rolling currency, you're not guaranteed to get what you want since it all boils down to RNG in the end.
>Unless of course, you pull out your wallet and pay for roll currency, which is what the entire system is designed to goad you into doing.
Also, gameplay is intertwined with progression. No matter how good your gameplay is, it will be undercut if it fails to make the players feel rewarded. So even if the gachafags copium is true and their favored game has genuinely great gameplay that makes it worthwhile, it will still be gimped by the infrastructure built around it.

>>715313465
i remember limbus company being huge. did everyone give up on that?

>>715328616
Limbus is doing way better than BA if steam is any indication, it's fine. Not huge but not small either. I'd be more worried about blue archive flopping really bad on top of getting caught trying to rig reviews

>>715310040 (OP)
>steamchart fags are such subhumans they now bitch all day about gacha numbers instead of actual games
Grim.

>>715324636
Arona got caught trying to inflate the positive reviews, what a stupid child

What really happened is that the global version is infinitely worse and sega is fucking over globalkeks hard
>New characters aren't added to the standard banner unlike the CN versio
Of course the Reddit bootlickets are already coping with "well actually this character released in patch 1.3 in CN, but it's 1,2 in global so maybe they'll add her to standard later.
No one forced them to move this character forward. But here's the thing: that character is highly meta. They know what they're doing.
>removed rewards from event
>Added level gates to the content that aren't in CN, to force people to spend
>All bundles are more expensive
>rewards from bonds are changed so they're now backloaded, again, in an attempt to force spending

>>715310040 (OP)
Its low due to global getting shafted compared to the other versions as >>715312665 has explained.

>>715313559
Didn't stop touhou

>>715332062
Touhou canon ages are in like the 500+ years old range.
Obviously it's not really fooling anyone, but it's not doing what blue archive is doing, which is to have:
1) a school setting full of students
2) 99% of said students explicitly being underaged
Also there's no single male self insert like in BA (no, Rinnosuke doesn't count and neither does Fortune Teller).

In touhou this results in the vast majority of dialogue and character interactions happening between the girls. There's other stuff for fans to chew on who aren't big on the whole lolicon aspect.
Hence touhou has a more welcoming setting, although this does mean LGBT+ is gonna check it out, which they do.

>>715312380
>deliver a AAA quality RPG for free
>it gets rave reviews
>add some optional paid skins and shit
>gachafags sperg out and review bomb your game

>>715319021
Essex anons, what happened??