Thread 715337194

>each new hero release less popular than the previous
>new season peaks below previous mid season
>weekend of new season has less players than its launch day

ok what can a game like rivals do to stop this death spiral?
there's something seriously going wrong with it. what is it? what can be the solution?

>>715337194 (OP)
>ok what can a game like rivals do to stop this death spiral?
Nothing really. Overwatch survived because it became an IRL cultural phenomenon. This one is a fart in the wind that will go away and memory holed by the end of the year

>>715337439
>Overwatch survived because of the intense and unrelenting mental illness unique to fans of Blizzard IPs
Fixed that for you, my dude. Pokemon was a cultural phenomenon. Fucking Fortnite (unfortunately) is a cultural phenomenon. Overwatch was and is nothing in the grand scheme of things

>>715337194 (OP)
do more horny stuff

They just inflated the bubble too much with advertising of the game. Now these are real numbers of real players and they will not go anywhere because there is no alternative to this game.

>>715337194 (OP)
add role queue

>>715337194 (OP)
normies don't want to play the same game constantly
especially something as toxic as overwatch-likes

>>715337194 (OP)
They can fix their dogshit matchmaking for one

Turns out that sexy characters can only get you so far. You also need a good game if you want the coomers to stick around afterwards.

They keep releasing mediocre characters no one really cares about. No one cares about FF4, no one cares about Emma, no one cares about Phoenix. And ironically, no one is going back without rank resets because they maxed out, there's no incentive; and most players wont admit they're below average gamers who think the system is against them ("temporarily embarrassed top 500 players"). The mini games aren't worth while for anything. Cosmetics are pretty mid and the whole system a bit convoluted

>>715337194 (OP)
I enjoy grinding the top ranks in vidya, but rivals just felt shit because the MM was made to keep you climbing unless you went out of your way to throw.

>>715337194 (OP)
>Jean Grey
>Blade
Zzzzzzz
Give me Rogue and Gambit.

maybe they should balance the game and start cracking down on INTing niggers in Competitive AND Quickmatch?
Its just so hilarious how blatantly deaftone they've been over balance, everyone knows who's overpowered but no one wants to admit it.
For one
Nerf Wolverine, the dude has been OP since 0 and especially after the buffs in 1, he just buckbreaks any tank that isn't Emma or Thing unless you coordinate like motherfucker which is way too rare with randoms.
two
Nerf hela, winter soldier, loki, luna, emma, black panther, groot, remove hawkeyes one shot because as of right now they're the biggest outliers for being annoying as fuck even in the hands of average players.
three (3.)
nerf fucking healing ultimates, its one thing for healers to save their team from getting nuked by another ultimate but its entirely different when you have retards running loki/luna (or meta healer) in every tryhard lobby just so they can maximize their almost invincibility.

I sincerely do not see a single problem with any of my mentionables, all this shit is stuff I see on a regular basis and it doesn't even include things like IW's shield spam or players hoping onto strange 10 seconds before the match ends to portal and drag it out for a potential win (just put a fucking 30 second cooldown if you reselect after match started)

>>715340257
Post rank

>>715340390
go fuck yourself, you're probably a loser that plays one of these characters or multiple of them.

>>715340478
Why did you get angry?
I just wanted to know your rank :)

>>715340257
You don't even play the game anymore, do you? A lot of your information is already outdated.

>>715340672
because I solo climbe to celestial 2 last season, posted my rank in the marvel rivals general for retards like you and you retards still went into full cope mode and rejected it because the reality is that it doesn't matter how far down the totem pole anyone is, you literally just cannot fathom that people call this blatant dogshit balance into question.

>>715340257
>>715340819
Its literally the same game aside from jean grey being an annoying faggy character, now people are forced to ban wolverine and her unless you want to get rid of storm for obvious reasons.
I've been banning the same characters for months now. Its getting a little ridiculous if you'd ask

>>715340875
>jean gray
>STORM
OK, so you just have no idea what you're talking about.
But do keep whining about things already fixed in the game, buddy.

>>715340996
How bad are you? Because if you haven't played against Wolverine with the Phoenix teamup then you are out of your league if you think that team-up isn't overpowered as hell, its one or the other. She's already a very good character as seen with the annoying burst damage and ultimate that destroys placeables within its giant radius and deals ridiculous damage, its literally just wanda's ult but better.
And storm? fuck yeah I'd ban storm especially if no one on the opposing team plays wolverine, not because I have trouble navigating around the jeff teamup swallowing me up but because teammates aren't smart enough to run away or see it coming, banning storm just minimizes the chances of my team losing to that skill check which an astounding amount of players even in top 1% fail to counter.
I always target ban, its unfortunate when people hide their profiles but its neccessary to minimize losses.

>>715337731
this is the truth none want to accept. you can still offer open queue but you have to bruteforce teaching the casual playerbase what wins games and stop them one tricking.

>>715337439
>>715337612
pretty sure it was the porn

>>715340672
t. wolverine poster

Capeshitters don't cling to the same thing forever. They just want to consume product and be excited for the next product. Also the game's artstyle is hideous, so that kills the chances of making good porn without making it off-model.

>>715337194 (OP)
Matchmaking is absolute cancer
Only took me a couple games to remember why I dropped it and uninstalled.

>>715340996
>>715341341
And its really sad because you may not understand this or accept it yet but the shitty balance has drastically increased target banning and it became the most effective way to fuck over any problematic individuals in a match and its completely neccessary as of right now until further notice. The lack of balance has led to so many players thinking they're better than they actually are that it humbles them when you remove their ability to select certain heroes who are blatantly overtuned.
Just target ban the best DPS player on the opposing team and you'll probably win the match, like I'm not even kidding lol unless they can flex on different playstyles which is usually not the case since most dive players only know dive characters and aimgods only know ranged/precision based characters. but I will admit it is annoying to have heroes like wolverine because EVERYONE who's a tryhard learned him for the sole reason of shutting down any tank mains who carry a match.
it basically makes him a priority ban unless your team are positioning perfectly and supports are pocketing at the right moments.

>>715337194 (OP)
>EEOM sucks
>ranked sucks
>Auto Chess mode sucked
>no new fun casual modes like Doom Match
>no co-op or relaxed modes to hang out
>entire focus in on milking whales

>>715337731
Overwatch niggers deserve nothing but endless torture and pain.

>>715337194 (OP)
Completely remake the game without the tank/dps/support roles or >>715337731

There's quite literally no other option for this kind of game if you want it to retain players.

They need to fix smurfs, ranked at the lower ranks is simply unbearable, and that's where 99% of the audience sits.

>>715337612
>Pokemon was a cultural phenomenon
Come now. You can't say that shit about overwatch when Pokefags are much worse than blizzdrones ever were

>>715344598
>He wasn't there in 1999
KEK

>>715337194 (OP)
>matchmaking goes out of it's way to stop you from having too much fun
>people stop playing
Who would've guess? I swear that study on EOMM is just bullshit but every game dev thinks it works. I don't care how many stats you show me there is no way forcing loses on people makes them keep playing.

>>715337731
fuck solo tanking
fuck triple healers
maybe when it peaks at 20k they'll finally do it

>always posts numbers from morning and earlier
Try harder next time,OP

>>715337194 (OP)
remove all the flying heroes from the game.
there. I fixed your game for you.

>>715340828
>Trust me bro
No wonder your opinions are shitter tier.

>no role q
>EOMM garbage
>devs balance around team-ups that are seasonal and thus forces them to need to balance said heroes as well
i dropped the game recently for good, tired of flexing tank every single fucking game and my teammates fighting before the game even begun. but netease won't fix it and it'll hover around ~50k for the foreseeable future. people will just say to themselves "wow, me getting stomped or stomping the enemy every other game actually isn't fun whatsoever" and stop playing.

They won't ever release role queue (or some variant of it) because it would expose just how small the current playerbase is with increased queue times. Which is why they literally have you fight bots in quick play, lol. People keep asking for it but they will never put it in the game, you're just wasting your breath.

>>715346140
>People keep asking for it
I thought all those faggots went back to the other game they already ruined.

>>715346140
>Which is why they literally have you fight bots in quick play, lol.
The reason they make you fight bot isn't that there aren't enough players, it's to hand you a free win and make you feel better about losing your previous matches.

>>715346247
I don't know what you're talking about but don't respond to me ever again bucko.

>>715337194 (OP)
Safe horny reddit slop can only take you so far.

>>715343087
>all of the characters and maps are free
>game gives you a fuck ton of free skins
>"HURR THEY JUST CARE ABOUT WHALES"
Why are you people so fucking autistic about making your character pink in a FREE game

>>715337731
They should just stop making hero shooters that rely on team compositions to function. It was painfully obvious how fucking stupid and stubborn the average overwatch player was and how lopsided team comps fucked games 99% of the time. I don't understand how these fucks didn't see this affecting rivals as well.

>>715337194 (OP)
Is a f2p hero shooter, gets boring super fast after a while doesn't matter how much you update it

these games will all die over time as every one of these companies uses a retarded matchmaking algorithm designed not to create good matches but instead to psyop the players

>>715337731
This is the only solution. It probably won't bring it back to what it was, but at least it will help stem the bleeding. I personally stopped playing after having to solo tank for so long. DPSniggers all need to be dragged out into the streets and disemboweled.

>only 1/3 of the players can have fun in a match
i know some people actually like to tank or heal but they are rare and most people force themselves to do these roles because they want to win more than to have fun, is a failed game from the start

>>715343087
>whales
There literally isn't a single mechanic in the store that is designed to milk whales
The biggest "whale milker" is BP acceleration and that is like $10 one time purchase per season. Everything else is just regular price skins.

>>715342263
I think you're onto something for all these mentioned IPs

>>715337612
Marvel rivals just needs more porn

>>715337194 (OP)
>Fotm streamer game is losing players
consider me awestruck

>>715337194 (OP)
OW will never be liked again.

>>715347354
>can't help yourself talking about OW instead of rivals in a rivals thread
This is another reason why rivals failed.

>>715344598
No, they're actually about equally bad at this point. And Blizzard cultists may just be a little worse still because they lash out against all competing games.

>>715347354
That’s because OW burned every last ounce of goodwill it had. People moved to Rivals hoping it’d be different, but surprise, turns out if you copy the skeleton of a dead horse, you're still just riding a corpse.

why is there basically a thread FUDing marvel rivals up every day?

>>715348132
steamshart mental illness

>>715337194 (OP)
Despite the Hate campaign overwatch is an objectively better game than rivals.
While it has lower player numbers on steam than Rivals right now keep in mind most people play the game on Bnet.

>"BIG THICC WHITE WOMAN!"
>"WOW BASED! STRAIGHTPILLED!"
>"BIG THICC WHITE WOMAN!"
>"UHH..."
>"BIG THICC WHITE WOMAN!"
yeah wonder why it stopped working

>>715337194 (OP)
>#8 on EGS (https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/collection/most-played)
>#11 on Xbox (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/most-popular/games/xbox)
>#8 on Playstation (https://blog.playstation.com/2025/07/03/playstation-store-june-2025s-top-downloads/)
Fuck you steamie you aren't the center of the gaming world.

>>715347403
If rivals "failed" then OW2 was a catastrophic failure

>>715343087
>entire focus in on milking whales
What exactly do you think that means? The only thing they're releasing is paid skins and everything else is free. The maps, the combat, the events; all of it is free.
>The Battle Pass nets you ten skins for $10 (So $1 a skin), a bunch of MVPs, a bunch of emotes, and a bunch of sprays and nameplates.
>If you pay another 10 you get basically two sections opened up and a boost to how much BP currency you get (Which amounts to like 500 or something extra skin currency over a normal BP-paying player?)
>The only other thing they sell is every once in a while they make it so free players can earn a mini battle pass while a paid player can also buy the premium side for like $4 that not only gets you two skins on top of the free stuff but also another skin from the costume exchange.
>Most skins they release are only 1200ish standalone and 1600 for a pack with them occasionally doing legendaries for 2200 or 2800 for a two pack with each skin on its own being in the 2000 range if I remember right.
>As a free player you earn enough skin currency to have already gotten like two paid skins at this point.
>As a BP purchaser you've been able to afford roughly four if not five skins depending on what you've been buying.
They're constantly doing events that hand you a free skin + an entire MVP/Emote/Nameplate/Spray set in addition to a bunch of other things. Now we also have the accessory system which also only requires you to play roughly 20 games a week and you'll get one every two weeks.

They're fairly reasonable with their monetization model when it comes to a battle pass and as paid content. The standalone skins are pretty nuts at $16+, but if you just buy the BP every season and do achievements you can get the ones you want and let the BP skins cover the rest of your want cases.

>>715348772
>still can't help yourself

>>715348707
We beat fall guys!

Is Rivals really failing or is this just fanbase warring?

>>715348968
It's just one guy, presumably indian, on /v/ making multiple threads every day.

>>715348968
Well the numbers speak for themselves, hes not wrong that its going down every season regardless of who they add

>>715347121
>Marvel rivals just needs more porn
Their artstyle just doesn't work in different render styles like Overwatch does. The comic like shading of the models looks like shit if you don't build your scene around it.

>new heroes haven’t been able tobump the player count up
>they said they want to add some D-Listers
this will kill the game. nobody will want to return vecause they just released paste pot pete in the roster. Also, post your most wanted:
>Doom/Tank
>Doc Ock/Tank
>Wasp/Support
>Gambit/Dps
>She-Hulk/Tank
>Silver Surfer/Support

>>715350020
They already added all the big hitters. Spider-Man, Captain America and Wolverine are like an order of magnitude more popular than any other Marvel character when it comes to reaching people who haven't already tried the game.

I don't think they can force hype anymore. The only thing they can do now is make the game fun.

>>715337194 (OP)
Every team hero shooter game should be mystery hero by default. They can't go back on it now, but you don't let players play whatever they want. That's how you start getting metas and now you're herding cats by chasing different balance schemes. You can still do role queue if everyone cries too much. But force everyone to play multiple roles and learn all the heroes.

>>715350342
This would be a great way to kill the game even faster.

>>715350342
>jumps off the map over and over until i get the character i want

>>715337194 (OP)
grim
another overwatch clone going to be outlived by overwatch (again)

>>715350131
Cyclops isnt in and he's more popular than everyone else you mentioned.

>>715351558
do you really believe cyclops is more popular than spider-man?

>wolverine with phoenix team up deletes any vanguard (comp, dive or brawler) instantly
Nobody is playing vanguard lmao

>>715351638
Yes.

>>715346880
>There literally isn't a single mechanic in the store that is designed to milk whales
the new cosmetic recolor and ult vfx system seems like its building towards that.

>>715353103
i forgot the new accessory system too. they are adding more and more cosmetic categories into the game for milking existing players

>>715337194 (OP)
>game loses players over time
Wow. Weird. That's never happened before.

>>715337194 (OP)
Kill all steam chart trannies

>>715337194 (OP)
>Ex Chink BF continues to play it
I don't get it. It's just ASSFAGGOTS-TPS to Snorewatch's ASSFAGGOTS-FPS. Why not just play a T/FPS over ASSFAGGOTS at that point?

>>715348707
>>#8 on EGS (https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/collection/most-played)
Wow, five players are playing it on the Epig Spyware Store over the 2 that play the next title on that Spyware store!?

NEXT COPE! NEXT COPE!

>>715351638
>do you really believe cyclops is more popular than spider-man?
>Is the X-men more popular than--
Yes. X-men sell games, as proven by Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite Flops.

>>715354894
Can you give some proof of x-men specifically cyclops selling games?

>>715354894
mvci sold 1 million more copies than mvc2

>>715354894
>Yes. X-men sell games, as proven by Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite Flops
retard the first insomniac spider man came made more money than all the marvel vs capcom games combined

Ban steamchart threads
Lynch steamchart posters in public venues

>>715348707
>top F2P game cited in your source is Splitgate 2
it's okay to admit that your action figures aren't that popular anymore

>>715345217
fliers are only a problem because you dps tards can't aim for shit

>>715348968
Steam charts don't even indicate the success of failure of games. It's just concurrent players, mean it just captures the amount of players who are playing the game at the same time at that given time. Even then it only gets people who bought it on Steam and aren't playing it offline. Also need to take into account the genre

I even don't play Rivals, but using Steam charts to indicate stuff like this is ridiculous and always has been.

>>715356315
>Steam charts don't even indicate the success of failure of games
Meant to say "Steam charts don't even indicate how many people bought the game on Steam in total", but both are still true statements.

>>715354596
Fortnite is literally the most popular game in the world. EGS is more popular than Steam. Cope and seethe.

>>715337194 (OP)
>there's something seriously going wrong with it. what is it? what can be the solution?
the answer is very simple
>live service dogshit that nobody cares about
>matchmaking dogshit
>no fan-content like mods, new game modes, new maps, private servers
especially the last point is important. there is a reason why games like CS, TF2 and even AoE2 live on and on and on, and it's because the people actually own their games and can do whatever they want within them.

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