>FPS RPG
>needs 50 mods to make gunplay bearable
how incompetent is bethesda/obsidian

>>715343925 (OP)
What's wrong with the gunplay?

>>715343925 (OP)
At least it has Iron sights over 3 but you never played Fallout for good gunplay. Before the change to FPS, combat was dice roles. To keep the roleplay aspect of an RPG the gunplay has to be sacrificed.

>>715343925 (OP)
>complaining about a 60yr old game

Yea we know NV is the goat

>>715343992
everything, just watch and see how many changes it needs to feel enjoyable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKZW1OeRVlU

>>715343925 (OP)
>Requires extreme modification to its baseline state in order to feel comfortable
fanbase imitates game

>>715344106
So you want more camera shake and blur when you reload, amazing

>>715343925 (OP)
Yeah, I remember a lot of “people” at gamefaq back then complaining about Obsidian using Gamebyro and Fallout 3 assets because it felt “old” even during 2010
>>715343992
If you’re a normalfag with fried dopamine receptors, the gunplay and the animations for FNV feel pisspoor if we compare it with other shooters even before its time

>>715344193
>blur
theres 0 blur added,are you such an Obsidian dicksucker you defend engine bugs causing stutters during shooting, shitty animation snapping with iron sights, 0 bullet impact and no hit feedback?

>>715344143
pretty funny

>>715343925 (OP)
Don’t care I like the gameplay and don’t use mods.

>>715345273
>i enjoy the bugged unfinished and abandoned game
Even the game director released a mod which pretty much overhauls entire game balance

>>715343925 (OP)
Two different animals.
Bethesda will release a game 95% finished and hope for the best.
Obsidian is a glorified modding studio. Their most acclaimed hits had competent studios do 80% of the heavy lifting.

>>715345696
>95% finished
>Bethesda
lol
lmao even

>>715343925 (OP)
>tfw I played it on PS3 at a smooth 20fps
still put several playthoughs on it
then bought it again with all the DLC (still with on the PS3)
I remember my brother playing it on laptop on intel integrated graphics too lmao.

>>715345743
Cope as you feel appropriate.

>>715345801
VATs made it playable but its embarrassing that something which should be main focus of an fps game is borderline unplayable.

>>715344143
first time this meme made me laugh.

>>715343925 (OP)
>next installments got even worse gunplay
Todd, I kneel.

>>715346235
i read gunplay is the only thing fallout 4 did right, was it a lie?

>>715343925 (OP)
you fucks will never post these so called 50 mods
POST THE LOADOUT!

>>715346802
read comments next time, its literally in this vid description which shows them
>>715344106

>>715343992
nothing, obsidian added iron sights and that was enough to btfo bethesda and later the sharty troon discord server

>>715343925 (OP)
The real gameplay is the dialogue and characters and the atmosphere and the music and the worldbuilding
I spent hours in vault 11 just reading journals trying to piece together what happened

>>715346945
Coulda just read the wiki. Saved yourself some time.

>>715347140
the wiki doesn't have these ambiance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGIcrCh_G0E

>>715346945
>music
controversial take, the music is very repetitive and boring made me hate the game, im really not into this genre

>remembering how I felt about 7-8 years ago when I tried getting NV to run with basic fix patches
>took me like 3 fucking days
I refuse to play this shit again until it comes with the essential patches and JSawyer already applied. get on it GOG. it's not my fucking job to make sure a game works, that's why we have game developers

>>715347282
It is a quick read.

>>715343925 (OP)
>gunplay
You're playing it wrong.

>>715347343
what a fucking retard lmao
are you from sharty?

>>715347343
https://vivanewvegas.moddinglinked.com/index.html

>>715343925 (OP)
>>needs 50 mods to make gunplay bearable
I like vanilla gunplay

>>715347435
>furry mascot
uhh... this wont install a bitcoin miner will it?

>>715345447
>i enjoy the bugged unfinished and abandoned game
Yes?

>>715343925 (OP)
There's nothing wring with vanilla gunplay

>ive been playing with basic mods that make the game not crash as much since 2010 and I will continue to do so.
no visual overhaul mods becuase they are usually shit

https://streamable.com/tr8k96

I'm trying to make it look as nice as possible without turning it into an ugly abomination with a 100 random over the top ENBs, shaders and filters slapped on it, to keep the original feel. Thoughts?

>>715343925 (OP)
it's an rpg, not a shooter. there's a reason why the game has no recoil.

>>715347630
Its an RPG and a shooter sadly. Bethesdas need to make the series first person now means that there's a weird merger of player action and character action and now players will get pissed because they aimed well enough but the character stats are too low.

>>715347609

>>715347630
its both, majority of rpg's are not visual novels where combat is totally irrelevant, maybe you are some tard who plays games on story mode but items, crafting and character progression are there for a reason and are important for majority of playerbase.

>>715347343
Did you play it without mods first retard?

>>715348036
https://streamable.com/g2infg

>>715343925 (OP)
yes, the gunplay is awful. thankfully it is essentially a stealth game and you shouldn't ever be locked in actual combat, just picking things off from the shadows.

>>715348268
>yes, the gunplay is awful.
It's not
>>715346406
It's actually way worse, but normalfaggots love it because there's no weapon sway and recoil even if you don't have any good skills on the related firearm

>>715348049
why the fuck would I do something so silly?

>>715346406
>Todd
>lying
Come on now

Im removing piss filter and you cant stop me, it was shitty stylistic choice which made the game fell dull and boring

>>715348619
it was the only game where it actaully fit

>>715343992
From what I noticed, there are several bugs with automatic weapons with a high rate of fire, otherwise it's fine. Sound doesn't always catch up, weird ~0.5 second delay right after stopping shooting and reloading, animations being wonky, overall something definetely goes south when fast-shooting weapons are involved.

>>715348485
Involuntary Retard

>>715343925 (OP)
What makes the gunplay "bad"?

>>715347510
Not that anon but you don't need to download their version of MO2. Get the regular one this guide just gives you the most stable experience for NV or TTW if you follow their Best of Times.

>>715348949
from top of my head
>no ballistics
>awkward out of sync animations
>no recoil system
>poor weapon spread mechanics
>bugged engine causing stutters when shooting
>misaligned iron sights
>no bullet hit feedback
>poor sound effects

>>715343925 (OP)
It needs 0. You're just retarded and gay OP.

>>715349623
even a FNV project director Joshua Sawyer released a mod because he thought it needed one, you are just retarded cock gobbler or coping console tard
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/JSawyer

>>715349527
>>no ballistics
Does Doom have bad gunplay?
>>awkward out of sync animations
Rare
>>no recoil system
False
>>poor weapon spread mechanics
Wrong, level your stats
>>bugged engine causing stutters when shooting
Rare
>>misaligned iron sights
Rare
>>no bullet hit feedback
False
>>poor sound effects
False

>>715346406
Every traditional ballistic weapon sounds like a pea shooter now.

>>715346927
iron sights in NV barely even work

>>715349805
Released a mod to improve the armor system
>>715351184
False

My original playthrough of NV was on PS3

Same, also FO3.
My last FNV save on my PS3 is incredibly glitched where the entire game is dim.

>>715351430
>>715351494
>fnv
>on ps3
u sick vindictive fuck