Thread 715368481

how does this affect you personally?

>>715368481 (OP)
>throws him off the wheelchair
>stabs and kicks him while the squirms on the floor
ez win

>>715368584
The wheelchair is enchanted and prevents you from doing that specifically.

>>715368481 (OP)
Yes.

>play fantasy game
>can be whatever you want
>I wish I was a gay retard!

>>715368665
then why didnt he enchanted his legs so he could walk?

>>715368481 (OP)
It makes me rofllmao

>>715368481 (OP)
It doesn't affect me personally but I think it's dumb and like to discourage things being made that I think are dumb

PLEASE GIVE ME REPLIES I NEED ATTENTION

GUYS PLEASE IM SUCH A FUCKING FAGGOT I JUST NEED REPLIES RIGHT NOW PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

>>715368481 (OP)
Why does he look smug and not "oh shit two guys with swords are going to mug me"?
The fuck can he do in this situation?

>>715368481 (OP)
Fags will try to bring this retarded homebrew into my game
I just say "no" but it still affects me due to its existence

>>715368743
REEEEEEEEEEE BIGOT

>>715368743
because the chair has more benefits than legs

>>715368778
But how does it affect you personally?

>>715368769
But how does it affect you personally?

>>715368665
I have a bracelet that cancels his stupid bullshit

>>715368665
>topple the wheelchair
>he is now stuck
>he can't even get out of the wheelchair
Great enchantment

>>715368481 (OP)
you're telling me that i'm still going to be handicapped in your fantasy world filled with magic.

that's how.

>>715368665
No its actually not. The wizard was from the land of Bharat - cripple boy got scammed.

>>715368481 (OP)
It makes me feel negative emotions.

>>715368481 (OP)
Makes me laugh and cringe a little. I feel like it'd be funny if someone kicked over his wheelchair and raped him over it.

>>715368840
What are you talking about?
I don't know anything about this. Just wondering why the guy getting mugged looks smug.

>>715368769
He's the one mugging them chud

>>715368665
I'm pretty sure it can go up and down stairs, hovers over nasty terrain, and has its own attacks of opportunity as well as keeping the occupant in the chair. Its literally a superpower as it was described at one time, not sure if that's the 'official' version or not.

...though I always wonder if its going to be that sort of thing, I never understand why it isn't some sort of floating disc or artificer made construct that's way cooler than a wheelchair.

>>715368936
But how does it affect you personally? Just keep replying. Get mad. Get emotional. Does it affect you personally, and how so?

>>715368973
But how does it affect you personally?

>>715368919
But how does it affect you personally?

>>715368481 (OP)
>wears plate armour on his chest
>his spindly frail legs are further forward and more exposed
Just stab him in the legs?

>completely dogshit copy and pasted thread done purely to farm for attention
>retards still reply to it
fuck all of you, I wish your dumb cunt of a mother had swallowed

>>715368481 (OP)
It ruins immersion.

Is the dungeon barrier-free?

I guess it saves money on needing a pack mule. He can carry all the supplies.

>>715368481 (OP)
>>715368840
>friend is unironically wheelchair bound
>doesnt have a problem with shit like this as a homebrew system, which makes perfect sense
>looks up the people actually seething about this
>the usual mentally ill xitter retards with too much time on their hands
>friend doesn't feel represented, supported, or otherwise, and wishes these people would rope and stop acting like they're speaking on behalf of other people
This is an irl friend, so it has affected me personally.

>>715368818
suck as...

>>715368973
What?
He's clearly disabled.

Is he actually meant to be mugging them?

>>715368919
that's hot.

>>715369094
Yes, he's a rogue

>>715368481 (OP)
It's pretty ironic how the mentally handicapped resent the inclusion of the physically handicapped

>>715368665
>still has to manually push it with his hands instead of having some magic self driving wheelchair
I doubt he has anti push protection

>>715369158
Oh. Okay. Now I understand what this thread's about.
Jesus.

>>715368481 (OP)
things I like are already a minority of a minority
if these things spread, especially in a thing I like (like ttrpgs and crpgs, for instance) then I get even fewer things I like, or the things I like are smeared in shit I dislike
I can't just pick another edition of dnd if all the people I can play with refuse to learn another edition
I can't wait for another high quality crpg like bg3 but without the dumb shit I don't like. it's a fucking miracle it even got made
I will have to suffer through the dumb shit
and it's one thing to suffer through HONEST dumb shit. people make mistakes, people arent good at everything. I don't mind that
but when it's this performative shit, it's infuriating because it's so unnecessary

>>715368481 (OP)
demon magic should be able to cure leprosy
makes no sense and this is just cultural appropriation

>>715368743
>Then why didn't he enchanted

>>715369087
Levitation

>>715369271
you need a wheelchair to cast levitation?

>>715368481 (OP)
I PERSONALLY think its lame and i PERSONALLY dont enjoy it so i PERSONAL WANT it gone so i PERSONALLY don't ever see it again.

>>715368995
How does anonymous users on a Bruneian Miniature Painting discussion board shitting on this topic affect YOU personally, dickhead?

>>715368840
But how does it affect you personally?

>>715369223
>high quality crpg like bg3
choked on my fucking coffee lmao

>>715369307
If you have a wheelchair you don't have to cast levitation. Not everyone is a mage.

The wheelchair just looks goofy, why not a floating dais or something?

>>715368481 (OP)
how many people on the fucking earth need a wheelchair and play D&D? it's like they ran out of minorities to cater to, so now they have to look at the bottom of the barrell, can't wait till the pander to people with rare as fuck genetic defects.

>>715369087
can't be tripped, immune to difficult terrain, the chair needs something like 3 crits in a row to be damaged unlike legs, immune to grease/pits/etc and more bullshit

>>715368481 (OP)
bending over backwards so people can self-insert into a role playing game is dumb

>>715369331
wait, you don't like the same thing another person likes? how surprising!

>>715369419
A real Chairy Sue

>>715369358
then why did you say levitation? What do mages have to do with cripples? Im confused.

>>715369419
why do you need the wheelchair to levitate? are we using game logic? then why doesnt everybody goes around in wheelchairs if it is so cool?

>>715369450
>he's doubling down
lmfao

>>715368481 (OP)
Weird perverts try to join my game, and make it worse.

>>715369375
won't be able to virtue signal with that or god forbid, a basic mount

>>715369385
the people who actually need wheelchairs to get about and also play D&D really just prefer to play able-bodied characters, on the whole.
these combat wheelchairs are tor the human-shaped monsters who fetishize the idea of being crippled.

>>715368481 (OP)
>The year is 2031, D&D 7E has just come out
>Finally, LGBTQ+WotC decided to get rid of all the bigoted features
>I decide to GM for my friends
>Characters finish rolling their birth names, current names, sexual orientation timeline, fursonas, and disability modifiers
>Don't have to choose race because all races are now utterly featureless gray-skinned hermaphrodites
>Don't have to pick class. Thank god. That archaic mechanic was so steeped in ableist rhetoric
>Start the game
>First 7E module: Descent into Patriarchy
>PCs meet in a gender neutral bathroom of a vegan dining establishment and microbrewery
>The quadra-sexual, intra-transgender, bio-dismorphic, hetero-mollusc, giraffe-kin sushi hostess asks the players to clear the incels from their cellar
>Players agree to help
>but first, our wheelchair-bound squirrel-kin player seducing the hostess, twelve of the patrons, and one vagrant.
>Don't make xim roll to accomplish this because the settlement exists in Lustkan, the pinnacle of sexual liberation and free expression
>Do make him roll for STIs, tho
>The state-of-the-art 7E D20 has 20s for 19 of its sides, with Twitch integration for whenever a crit is rolled
>OMG NAT 20!!!!! NO WAAAAAAAY!!
>Got so many followers for that clip

>Eight erotic rollplaying sessions later, the players find the incels in the cellar
>Combat ensues
>Hand each player a consent form every time they get attacked. Luckily no one consented to taking damage so combat only lasted 6 hours
>Players finally level up after beating the turbo-manlet stormtrooper and unlock their next sexuality and gender perk
>All loot is distributed equally to the masses

Honestly it was a lot of fun. I do have some problems with the lack of benches in the starting dungeon though. I also thought it was a bit dated giving the hostess a monogamous partner. But after only twelve DEFCON-3 triggerings, seven misgenderings, and after seeing how tweak-able the system is, I wholeheartedly endorse this product!

Wheelchair is such a lazy unimaginative solution to being disabled in fantasy.
You could have been a ranger that uses their animal companion as a mount.
You could have been an artificer that uses their contraptions like power armor, (even a mecha wheelchair with rockets and shit)
You could have been a wizard that uses their magic in a flavorfull way. (Big crystal orb, floating on their staff, unseen servant shit.)
You could have chosen to even partner up with another player, and ride on their shoulders.

You can have wheelchairs in fantasy, but they will never not look awkward and out of place in the middle of battle.
Maybe I should be more charitable and assume maybe that's the point? If that's the case then more power to them.

>>715369551
>then why doesnt everybody goes around in wheelchairs if it is so cool?
in games that allow this wheelchair (it's an infamous homebrew), everyone does try to get this wheelchair even if they're not crippled
it's just that overpowered

>>715369609
god imagine the stench of those unwashed tootsies

>>715368481 (OP)
It turns me into a non-buynary

>>715369223
>>715369331
>greatest game in the history of ever
>hit level cap in the second act
>level cap itself is fine, but not when you hit it before the halfway mark
>devs excuse "well we couldn't add all the OP spells!"
>crpgs don't always have all of the op or worldbreaking shit, regardless of level
>most of them are so fucking open ended you couldn't implement them anyway

>>715369385
See: >>715369082 They don't like it either. It isn't for them, it's for the poly genderqueer 'system' that takes the "interesting" parts of disabilities or being a fucking faggot and makes it their entire personality.

>>715369551
need to levitate for stairs and holes. the only thing stopping everybody from using them is DM's finding excuses to make them unavailable for non-cripple players

>>715368481 (OP)
It does when you post it on a video game board that I visit
I am neither a westoid nor a tabletranny consoomer

>>715368481 (OP)
We've made enough GP, found a lot of relics and made a lot of connections throughout our journey that can give you back some sort of mobility for what's to come. Are you only using the wheelchair because of how strong it became, or is there some sort of grift you're trying to do in towns when we have to rest and resupply?

>>715368481 (OP)
just think it's dumb.

>>715369569
you sure are

Fantasy is about self inserting. Since the beginning, even more outlandish races in dnd were discouraged in the past because a fact most creators need to understand is that to the average person the fantasy world is enough fantasy for most people, without making aspects o their character fantastical.

>>715369645
>it's just that overpowered
but cripples are not overpowered in real life, this is dumb, I thought the whole point was representation.

>>715369734
seems kinda based, the DM should give all players wheelchairs but dungeons filled with stairs and holes.

>>715369645
>why isn't everybody using artificer level technology to just be OP
>why isn't my Fantasy RPG just cyberpunk?
good question
>inb4 uuh are you comparing a wheelchair to implants
a magic wheelchair that augments your movement beyond what a normal wheelchair could, is basically, functionally, a tiny mech

>>715369551
>Then why doesn't everybody goes

>>715368818
Then most able bodied people would be in wheelchairs

>>715368481 (OP)
It breaks my immersion. By reminding me crippled freaks exist. And niggers

>>715370770
Literally unavoidable unless you remove humans altogether.

>>715368481 (OP)
Not knowing what this shit even is it doesn't really affect me, I think most people are probably laughing at it because putting a magical being in a wheelchair is fucking retarded, at least cut his legs off and give him steampunk legs or somethin, something that actually fits with the aesthetic of the picture, instead of jamming a real life wheelchair in it, have some fucking imagination with your fantasy cripple.

>>715370876
That's the end goal, yes

>>715370876
You only need to remove Tieflings and you'll get rid of 95% of freak people playing DnD

>>715368481 (OP)
it doesnt. Why would you have bitch ass crippled friend who demands wheelchairs of your campaigns.

>mentally healthy, able bodied people don't care because they don't ever think about being disabled because being disabled sucks
>actual disabled people don't like it because they don't want to be reminded in their fantasy escapism that they are ALSO disabled in that universe as well
>the only people who actually engage and respond to such content are mentally ill, agenda pushing bullies who get off on virtue signaling
unironically, this shit is wildly offensive to actual wheelchair bound people, but progressives don't give two fucks. their entire ethos is to commoditize every aspect of identity perception so they can play the moral highground card in any situation and rub everyones face in it.

>>715368481 (OP)
It affects me because it turned a genuinely coll setting in to modern twiter American hug-box

>>715368481 (OP)
>those knives on the sides of the wheels
imagine
>you're in a crowded tavern
>have to get up and go to the jakes
>walking through the crowd
>suddenly have a nick down your leg
>look back and see this asshole sitting with the wheels towards the aisle
>he makes eye contact and grins at you
no need for words, its going down

>>715368481 (OP)
If it doesn't matter, why was it included?

>>715369087
>higher weight capacity
>able to fire grenade and laser cannons while moving
>usually pretty high AP and physical defense

>>715371530
>men with shaved armpits
thats very fruity

>>715368481 (OP)
marche stop

>>715371673
>jumps over to your rear
>"Heh, Nothing Personal Kid..."

>>715368481 (OP)
Honestly he should be a wizard. A wheelchair rogue is dumb.

>>715368743
Stop being ableist

>>715368743
Because to these people being disabled is the same as being gay or black.
It all boils down to muh Identity.

>>715368481 (OP)
For me? The issue isn't the fact that a wheelchair exists in fantasy, I like warhammer fantasy and they have fucking medieval tanks, its not a tech thing, but the real problem is pretending that a wheelchair bound character isn't going to inherently create issues, they AREN'T going to be able to be a normal fucking adventurer, they're in a fucking wheelchair. Like look at the image you posted, its clearly SUPPOSED to be a sort of rogue, a swift, nimble character, a small knife indicates that its normally concealed, thieves or characters like them need to be swift, you can't be fucking dexterous in a fucking wheelchair. You can push this fucker over and out of his wheelchair at any time, he's gonna take 20 minutes turning his fucking chair and he only has 1 fucking hand to do it, the whole time he's going to be stabbed by whoever he's trying to fight, just pull him out of his stupid wheelchair and he's useless. The whole point of roleplay is being able to, in some way, play out the actions of your characters, its supposed to make sense in the world its in. Even if its "fantasy" and you can pretend whatever you want, its supposed to make sense even in its own world, and here it doesn't manage to do that.

>>715372157
He could pretend to be nice, meek and helpless and then backstab people in alleys

>>715372749
I don't know he seems easy to overpower

>>715373434
I mean I think I can see what he's going for
>disabled guy asks if you can help him reach something
>while walking over to grab it he drops something near his chair
>asks if you can help him pick it up
>you reach down to grab it
>you get shanked / poisoned
>wake up next day
>kidneys gone

>>715372157
Imagine trying to stealth as a wheelchair-bound rogue
>wheelchair too big to obscure behind most typical cover
>roll stealth with disadvantage because of the size and noise it makes
>wheelchair just stands out against any environment

>>715372453
Pretty much this same reason they purposely get top scars when the surgery can be done without leaving them,not that I'm not all for anyone mutilating their body since I'm one to talk

>>715373858
Can you imagine getting beat by a wheelchair man, embarrassing

>>715368481 (OP)
It makes me lol
I lol even harder when I see weirdos adamantly defending it as though their very lives depend on it.
I lol hardest when I see what those weirdos look like irl.

>>715374343
>the crimes go unreported because the victims are to embarrassed to admit it happened

>>715368481 (OP)
It gives me a headache

Show me a crippled dude who, if given the choice, would rather sit in a wheelchair than walk on his own two legs.

>>715371951
chair comes with a special attack against enemies behind it

>>715368763
Here fren

>>715368481 (OP)
>mfw WotC and Paizo are competing in who can be the more retarded company with the wokest product
Why are they like this? When will they realize all the virtue signaling in the world won't make retarded lefties buy their RPG books?

>>715368481 (OP)
There's not a single person who mains tiefling that I want to be friends with

So what does a wheelchair count as. Like a general feat? It's not a class, race, weapon type. It's not an armour type. Is it like some form of starting equipment that anyone can take? It reminds me of the fallout perks that give you something good and bad at the same time.

>>715368665
>The [local lord] has arrived to confiscate your gay wheelchair
What now?

>>715368481 (OP)
It's just silly, it breaks the whole reason for fucking role playing. If I was a cripple I sure as fuck wouldn't want the character I'm playing to be in the same situation I was in

>>715368481 (OP)
It simply doesn’t inspire me to buy the product.

>>715375030
I thought retarded lefties are the only people left who buy new books while all the normal people took refuge with their old editions and homebrew.

>>715375030
I mean, if almost killing your brand didn't wake up people at WotC then nothing will.

>>715368665
Then I'd simply hit him with a spiked chain and take a 5 foot step away

>>715374836
if the chair could levitate and self-propel like these ones, you bet your ass they would be popular amongst the able bodied

Anyone play DnD as someone who needs glasses?

Why is there so much transphobia on /v/ all of the sudden? It didn't used to be like this two years ago

>>715369419
>immune to difficult terrain
In that you wouldn't be able to traverse it in the first place

>>715375258
No. This lefty audience lives vicariously through podcasts and live action shows. You think THEY of all people have the money to buy corebooks? Even if they do to support their creators, they're not active players you can milk for supplements and shit.

>>715368481 (OP)
How come faggots get to have wheelchairs in their fantasy games but I cant get fucked by big male monsters in mine

>>715375173
The secretary of the local lord was a gold dragon in disguise and punishes the lord before he could enact his heinous plans.

>>715368481 (OP)
Actually fuck that, it's retarded and that's exactly why someone should make an over the top wheelchair hack and slash game.

>>715368481 (OP)
Witnessing a cripple with any of your senses is repulsive. If you legitimately think otherwise you are a biological failure and possibly crippled yourself, in the head.

>>715368665
I cast disjunction in his area, then.
Or just polymorph him into a chair.

>>715368481 (OP)
The only time this is acceptable is if you're specifically role playing as Mad Hamish

>>715368665
It's genuinely the superior choice. Two-leggers are at a clear disadvantage.

>>715368665
So it affects me personally.

>>715368481 (OP)
>cast Dispel
>kick retard off his chair
Nothing personel, kid.

>>715374836
>>715375326
Escapism then:
>wow, it sure was nice to see how different things would be in this unrealistic but interesting game world with different values and ideals than our world

Escapism today:
>wow, I'm so glad this game followed my corpo-promoted and xitter approved world views and allowed me to create a character that looks, acts, and talks just like me!

Any dude who still has his balls would have a blast playing a game where you build and mod a wheelchair and shoot shit like twisted metal. Just like if they were in a wheelchair, they wouldn't care one way or another if the mc was also in a wheelchair.

>>715368743
OY VEY!

>>715368481 (OP)
Publically execute all Tiefling players

>>715368743
>why didn't he enchanted
Eslsaar...

>>715375960
>The chair has no hit points and must be hit by 3 critical hit melee attacks "in the same encounter" before needing repairs, but the chair being "broken" does nothing to stop it from functioning
This feels like the most egregious part honestly.

Real men play able-bodied small races

>>715376308
>Not playing a Lawful Good Human Male Fighter

>>715368481 (OP)
As a DM, I would give a player the wheelchair and during an off session I would have their character beaten and abducted by some crazed artificer's CR 30 goons. They would then regain consciousness sometime later in a back alley with new, working prosthetic legs

>>715368481 (OP)
He just needs to team up with Fat lesbian HR bardess, together they'd be invincible

>>715368481 (OP)
The existence of bad homebrew doesn't affect me. I do think people who make bad homebrew should be bullied until they make cool homebrew.

>>715368481 (OP)
It doesn't affect me personally, I just think it's retarded to want to be disabled in an imaginary world, much less having access to an OP magic wheelchair because you decided to play a disabled faggot like you are in real life

>>715375520
>gold dragon
Such cringe shit is not allowed in Tiamat’s kingdom. The gold dragon is actually a red dragon and you must now fight it without your wheelchair. Roll iniative

To them, when you ask
>why a wheelchair? Why not use magic to fix it?
It's the same as asking
>Why black skin? Why not use magic to fix it?
I know the easy joke reply to this is "why DON'T they" but I'm serious, this is how the people who do shit like this think.

>>715368848
Can't do that either, as per RAW

>>715368481 (OP)
It's literally just enabling obnoxious virtue signalers who can't shut up about ableism.

>>715369094
>disabled
On the contrary, he's more enabled than ever

>>715369069
Welcome and enjoy your stay newbee, you'll be here forever.

>>715368743
Because his disability is his entire personality.

>>715369539
Underrated post

>>715368665
I walk up a short stairway at an unhurried pace.

>>715368481 (OP)
It doesn't, I'm not a faggot so I'll just walk away from it.

>>715375960
lol if this shit had been created by some crippled guy as his personal artifact that his crippled character used in a campaign the DM would tell him to fuck off.

>>715368665
Gay power fantasy and metagaming.
If you chose to be a cripple you either take all the difficulties that come with being one, or you get the fuck out of the group.

>People try and engineer society
>But you can only speak up if it affects you specifically and directly.

>>715368481 (OP)
I'd have to listen to the faggot complaining because whoever picks this isn't smart enough to realise they'll get higher dc's for trying to sneak up with wooden wheels on cobblestone.

>>715368481 (OP)
I don't understand why WOTC fucked up the concept and was then so insufferably preachy about it.
Fantasy & SF is full of examples of badass cripples.

>>715385349
>I don't understand why WOTC fucked up the concept and was then so insufferably preachy about it.
Then you haven't been paying attention.

>>715369595
It's not funny because we're only 1-2 years away from that being the norm.

How does me peeling off your nails with pliers affect you? It'll grow back.

>>715368481 (OP)
it just reminds me of the massive demoralization campaign championed by globalists set on poisoning every worthwhile pastime out there to crush the spirit of developed people.
>it'sallsotiresome.jpg

I'm sure the niggers in Pakistan don't care about gay, disabled rogues in D&D.

>>715368481 (OP)
It affects me because I'm still forced to engage with it. "Don't use it, if you don't like it" only works in single player games.
It's the equivalent of an ugly joke or crossover skin in an otherwise serious game.
It's a horribly imbalanced character that forces you to play it.

>>715368481 (OP)
It fucks up my suspension of disbelief because I'm asking myself why the Big Bad Lich designed his dungeon to be wheelchair accessible.
also >>715368818 >>715375960
if wheelchairs were advantageous, wouldn't people be chopping off their legs to get augmented like it's fantasy cyberpunk/dude sex?
So you'd just have powergamers forming bands of murderhobos riding around in wheelchairs. When you show up in new town, do major npcs ask why the fuck 5 dudes with not a single working leg among them have not only chosen to be adventurers, but have teamed up and are now their only hope?

>>715385349
the crippled should still look weaker than the leftard that defend his cause

>>715368481 (OP)
It doesn't directly do anything, but it is emblematic of the problems that modern fantasy has