Thread 715369962

>>715369962 (OP)
Because the price would jump by like $200.

>>715369962 (OP)
Because of VRR.

>>715369962 (OP)
sell me on this, why would I prefer this over a steam deck or a levono legion whatever?

>>715370219
Supposedly Microsoft is actually working on a gaming-optimized variant of Windows for this
Who knows if Microsoft will make it generally available to install for regular consumers or other manufacturers of handheld PCs

>>715370025
Stop talking nonsense, even $150 smartphones have OLED screens these days

>>715369962 (OP)
Why the fuck did they even make this, just go third party and stop making hardware. Worthless corporation.

>>715370441
it's made by third party you fool

>>715370348
Why are you so optimistic for something that will be bloated as hell? Don't say it won't since they plan to shove Copilot in that shit.

>>715370472
I don't care, their software is shit and not made for gaming, Microsoft should stop wasting everyone's time and go full third party. Company is worse than Sony USA at this point.

>>715370359
I'd rather take good quality lcd than bad quality oled.

>>715370219
The ROG Ally is twice as powerful as the Steam Deck: it displays 1080p at 120 Hz, whereas the Steam Deck is often limited to 60 fps, or even 30 fps at 720p. In addition, the Steam store will be directly accessible on the ROG Ally, and it is already possible to install SteamOS on it, as on current large machines. It is therefore much more energy-efficient than Windows.

>>715370690
The lower quality OLED screen is better than the best IPS.

>>715370219
Easier to replace the battery in these, I think? It's been a while since I watched some teardown videos.

>>715370830
Then you've never used those 5 dollar chink phonew screen oleds you fucking liar

>>715369962 (OP)
They always do this because they know many nintendo cultists will double dip. This way they can sell 2 consoles to 1 person. Remember, unlike sony and microsoft, nintendo makes sure they always turn a profit with each console sold, so selling as many consoles as possible is in their interest

>>715369962 (OP)
It's going to be like $1000 with an LCD alone.

>>715370934
But enough about the switch oled

>>715370348
>gaming-optimized variant of Windows
My instant reaction is that means it will be intrusive, annoying, and extremely anti-consumer. That's on top of shitty performance because half the of the unit's processing will be devoted to some kind of telemetry or DRM. MS can't develop competent software anymore.

>>715370934
Show it you liar

Why don't they just release their own gaming varient of surface?
Seems like this is just more branded garbage

They've been making oled tvs since 2010
they've been making qd oleds since 2020 that went into monitors and now qd oled and woled monitors are everywhere for cheap
phones have amoled and whatever for decades
hundreds of millions of oled phones are produce annually and sold for like 200€
Millions of oled tablets are produced too. Now they're doing like wacky foldable oled phones.

>video game displays cant afford oled for a >600€ device
rly? Just, not a single manufacturer in china can do it? The form factor of a smallish tablet is just too hard?

>>715369962 (OP)
I was really hyped about this and then saw no oled and immediately lost all interest. I'm really wanting a hand held but the steam deck feels out dated and the switch 2 is for children and no oled either

>>715370219
>sell me on this
I can't, why would anyone get this when the Steam Deck exists, why would anyone get this when the Steam Deck 2 will exist? Windows isn't even made for gaming, so the retards claiming Microsoft's self-proclaimed debloating is going to work, know nothing. The original Xbox team had to sneak into the office to debloat Windows for OG Xbox which led to Bill Gates cursing them out and almost firing them. SteamOS is better for gaming and made with a pure console-like feel.

>>715371659
Microsoft were but shitcanned it because they're lazy, and on top of that, afraid of SteamOS.

>>715371770
I'm exactly like you. I think we'll have to wait until at least 2027 to get something of quality, and a Steam Deck 2 might not come out anytime soon.

>>715369962 (OP)
OLED screens are bad for our health.
They damage our eyes much faster.
They greatly increase eye strain.
OLED screens should never have been released.

>>715370696
>In addition, the Steam store will be directly accessible on the ROG Ally
This is a lie, you will have to go on the Desktop, download and install the launcher from there, and when it's installed your Steam library is there, you can only play them in Steam, not from the Xbox PC app.

>>715369962 (OP)
They claim battery life. That and price

>>715370219
Wait to see the z2e versions of both

>>715372236
For me, I'll get a Switch 2 and then a Steam Deck 2 LCD. My eyes are already damaged, I don't want to go blind.

>>715370025
>75 cent screen will inscrease the price of a device by 200 dollars because it's not a 50 cent screen
lmao
>>715369962 (OP)
It would be a retarded business decision not to keep the OLED powder dry for the mid-gen refresh.>>715370696
>The ROG Ally is twice as powerful as the Steam Deck: it displays 1080p at 120 Hz
Screen specs are not "power", alfie.

>>715369962 (OP)
>Asus Rog Xbox Ally
my god, why couldn't they just name it XBOX SERIES A?

>>715372589
Because it's by asus and it's in their rog product line.

>>715372236
Nonsense

Why are people so autistic over displays now?

>>715372589
Xbox Ally: By Asus ROG ft. Microsoft

>>715372709
lcd is literally the worst thing invented by man, and manufactures are pushing that garbage onto consumers when a real display tech exist

>>715372709
Because oled or bust.

>>715372775
the broken english in this response tells me all I need to know

>>715373125
are you from india?

>>715369962 (OP)
>no track pads
into the trash

Why would they? Nintendorks will buy anything nintendo makes.

>>715370025
Only because the business chose to do so

>>715370025
Have they even mentioned a price for it?

>>715373680
No. Leaker claims $499 and $799 and €599 and €899

>>715373808
>$300 increase for 1tb storage and 8gb extra ram

>>715373927
Different chip as well.

>>715372236
They would actually damage your eyes less because they do not have the same flicker rate issues.
Sometimes on mine the brightness can be a bit much though to the point I have to squint

>>715370696
>HUURR DUURR IT HAS MORE POWERFUL CHIP WHICH GOES BRRR I DON'T CARE ABOUT SHITTY UX AND HAVING TO USE WINDOWS WITHOUT MOUSE OR TOUCHPAD
Retards like you is why all tech went downhill.

>>715369962 (OP)
>ROG Xbox Ally - 120hz, LCD, 1080p, VRR
>Switch 2 - 120hz, HDR, LCD, 1080p, VRR
It really is strange that both Nintendo and an expensive as fuck handheld can't use OLED. Would it really make that much more expensive?

>>715369962 (OP)
Why the fuck would you care about high performance on a handheld? Who wants to play AAA games on a fucking 7" screen? The Steam Deck is good enough and has the best OLED screen in it's class. That's all you need.

>>715374698
The fucking ROG Xbox Ally doesn't even have HDR but it's going to cost $700 and $1000? What kind of bullshit is this?

>>715370696
Tell me why should I care about higher resolution on a small screen?

>>715374965
I mean the HDR on switch 2 isn't exactly the best one but yes Xbox doesn't have it seems. No idea why but it's going to be really expensive anyway.

>>715374965
how would you have hdr on an lcd?

>>715375135
I hate Microsoft so much for constantly holding back this industry. Refuses to update their console controller to current standards set by Nintendo and Sony. Refuses to update their PC controllers to current standards set by Valve. They're keeping gaming from innovating.

>>715375214
Nintendo did it

>>715375432
>Nintendo did it

Did anyone file a class action lawsuit for misleading marketing vs nintendo yet

>>715374698
>>715374947
>>715374983
Smartphones these days have 2K, even 3K screens. Yes, a 7-8 inch, 1080p screen is more than enough, but no, 720p is disgusting, it's a blurry effect. The good thing about the Rog Ally, since they're going to put Steam on it, is that you don't have to tinker with Steam Deck to get the Xbox store.

I'm promoting the ROG ALLY, but it's not just the OLED screen that's a flaw. It's also missing the All Effects sticks. So that's also a big downside. I can understand why Xbox wants to make a profit by selling disposable controllers every 6 months. But we're still talking about a portable console where the controller, so to speak, we'll keep until the end of its life.

>>715369962 (OP)
because they've been reusing ROG ally parts since the original came out. the X and this crap literally have the same screen. boring ass shit

>>715375578
>720p is disgusting, it's a blurry effect
That's simply not true. 800p on 7.4" deck has 204ppi. That's higher PPI than high end 27" 2160p desktop monitor (164ppi).

>>715376179
Except that pixel intensity isn't enough to watch. There's also the distance at which you're viewing. So, when you're in an office in front of a 27-inch screen, you might be at a forearm's length. Whereas when you're with a handheld console, you might be at a hand's length.
Besides, that's why virtual reality headsets would need at least 8K to be, in quotation marks, watchable.

>>715376509
>Whereas when you're with a handheld console, you might be at a hand's length.
Get glasses, man.

>>715369962 (OP)
Because you will buy the Switch 2 OLED anyway

Putting LCD on devices should be illegal at this point.

>>715372709
>Why are people so autistic over battery duration now?
That's how stupid you sound.

>>715375578
Funny thing about most smart phones that even though they come with a "3K" screen, most of the time by default they're set to 1080p or a lower resolution and the vast majority of people have no idea and never bother to change it.