Thread 715373004

Picked this up and it's comfy.
Just enough stuff going on that I gotta pay attention but not so much that I am getting stressed or locked in.
Really hits that sweet spot.

Who is your favorite character?

>Who is your favorite character?
Leah is my maiden of choice. If it's not for waifufagging, I also like Aramis, Ithilion and of course Alain himself is a gigachad. Scarlett is also great.

Reminder that Virginia is the historically accurate choice for the MC

>>715373329
>Scarlett
Wanted to say Virginia.
Turns out that I haven't played the game in a while.

>>715373004 (OP)
It’s basically a gacha game without all the fomo and shit monetization. Very enjoyable in a breezy kind of way.

>>715373004 (OP)
Ramona.
Dat plumage.

>>715373510
I've heard Granblue Fantasy be described as a gacha without microtransactions as well

>>715373004 (OP)
can I enjoy it as a Vanillaware fan even if I don't have much experience with this particular game genre?

>>715373004 (OP)
For me, it's Melisandre.

>>715373735
Probably. It’s an entry-level strategy game. Most people recommend picking the hardest difficulty even for your first run because the “normal” difficulty offers no challenge as long as you build your units moderately competently.

>>715373735
I doubt most people that love UO have ever played Tactics Ogre.
Yes, you absolutely can. On the base difficulty, it's braindead easy. It's recommended to play on the highest difficulty, it's entirely doable. The game starts simple enough.
There is a demo, you can play for 10 hours and check the game out before buying. And you can keep your safe file.

>>715373004 (OP)
>Who is your favorite character?
I liked Hilda the most as a unit
>wife?
Dinah

>>715373510
>bad writing
>simplistic gameplay that's too easy
I can see it.

>>715373004 (OP)
best girl

>>715375302
Without a doubt

What would it take for this retarded company to release their games to PC?

>>715375804
a gun to the head of the ceo, and even then it might not work

>>715373004 (OP)
>Who is your favorite character?
renault for males, virginia for females
>>715374696
i don't even think the writing is bad, the main story just feels formulaic to a fault and thus doesn't really stick. gameplay is definitely too easy though and is my biggest complaint with the game

>>715375302
Damn racist fox... Ring correction is needed...

>>715373004 (OP)
>Who is your favorite character?

My wife Ren, of course.

>>715380376
Cutie~

>>715380236
Cute and sexy.

>>715373797
So many cute girls it’s unreal

For me, close tie between Berengaria, Railanor, Virginia, although Railnor is hardly developed. I was disappointed with Amalia, not nearly as useful or interesting as I expected her to be.

Just finished up my game this morning. 80+ hours, but unlike other games of that length (Rogue Trader, for example), I never got the point where I was just wishing it would end.
I don't think any character ever stole the show. While the main character is a machine late game, he isn't that strong early. And other characters that seem strong at first fall off later.
Overall, though, I really liked Rosalind and ended up giving her the maiden's ring.

>>715373510
>It’s basically a gacha game without all the fomo and shit monetization.
This means literally nothing. Gacha games are defined by fomo and monetization. Genshin Impact and Uma Musume are both gacha games and their only commonality is fomo and monetization.

What you want to say is that the game simply doesn't ask a lot of the player to win, and that you don't need to explore all of its systems and understand them deeply to do most of its content. Which is not at all something unique to gacha games.

>>715378204
it works

>>715373906
I though it was more akin to Ogre Battle.

>>715383678
>I don't think any character ever stole the show. While the main character is a machine late game, he isn't that strong early.
Alain is always insanely strong. There's an early game magic sword damage that already makes him an unkillable terminator with insane damage. He just becomes an encounter wiper in the late game. I did a specialized team that jerked him off and they were essentially impossible to stop.

>>715383794
It is. And I don't think Ogre Battlelikes are a genre. Though I wish they were because I like Ogre Battle a million times more than Tactics Ogre and its army of clones.

I married the dark elf because she's hot and she's brown

>>715383707
>the game simply doesn't ask a lot of the player to win, and that you don't need to explore all of its systems and understand them deeply to do most of its content
Sounds like a Vanillaware game.

>>715383983
enjoy your dark elf kids bro

Would you want a sequel? We know there's a whole 'nother continent out there. I think they could make one more game out of the baseline Unicorn Overlord established, but they'd have to get crazy with the unit types and designs from the getgo. And crank up the difficulty.

>>715383927
My end game team was him, Scarlet to heal him, and Yahna to buff him. Since you get two extra slots I put in Nina and a generic Owl.
Sure, he's good early on, but not exciting like Joseph, who can get anywhere on the field in seconds and destroy them instantly. My man unfortunately got benched in Albion. Clive was kicking ass all game though.
I definitely won't replay this anytime soon as it is very long, but I will do so eventually and will try the highest difficulty I unlocked. Next time I'll take advantage of building specialized teams sooner, I didn't realize how easy it is to catch up low level units.

>>715384218
Yes, easily. Introduce a hard mode where every major enemy squad has personalized gambits and the game would be already improved tenfold. Also allow us to ship characters other than MC.

>>715373004 (OP)
probably renault. but shoutouts to the tricorns, virginia, and the bear guy
>>715384218
i would want a sequel because despite this game being like a 100 hour rpg, whenever i play and beat it, i feel like i want to do more.

>>715384218
They could easily make a sequel that's mostly an asset flip with a timeskip and a different story and it'd actually be good.
But they won't because they hate money or something. They're going to completely scrap the concept, throw all the art and characters in the garbage, spend another 10 years making a completely different game, run out of money and ship it unfinished again, then release it only for Switch 2.

>>715373004 (OP)
is this game an actual strategy game, I've played the demo and seen footage of some of the later maps and it really just looks like a powerantasy game disguised as strategy. I understand that teamcomps are a major part of the experience, but I dont really know how you can justify that when the actual strategy segments just consist of storming through armies until you win

>>715384979
Yes. Set it to the highest difficulty and refrain from using items.
No, it isn't crushingly difficult at all, but you will need to think about what you are doing because there's a timer that means you can't camp out.
Most tactics games are really easy, so I'm not sure why it would be a complaint against this game.

>>715384979
the purpose of this game is to collect all the sexy bitches

>>715373004 (OP)
Scarlet!

>>715385135
>refrain from using items.
Can't stress enough how important this is. Luckily most of them are useless to begin with, but the camping supplies break the game if you use them.

>>715384979
Unit composition mostly is the game. The unit movement is very simple, remember it's designed to be played on a nintendo switch. You can do some micro for an edge but it's not starcraft. The meat of the game is building characters, assembling them into units, figuring out combos, adapting to enemy units, and sending the right units to the right places.

It is a very easy game though. I already play strategy games so I'd obviously be biased toward a more challenging game but yeah it's pretty easy. I'd rank the difficulty below Fire Emblem Awakening. If you like strategy games and don't purposely limit yourself you'll overcome the game's challenge before you've actually finished every region.

>>715385303
Yeah I personally found awakening to be pretty agregious in terms of its difficulty, but I think at this point I'll take anything that even remotely resembles FE since that series hasn't had a fulfilling release in ages. Its on sale for $30 so I'm just gunning for it at this point.

>>715385195
This also helps alot, the art direction and character designs are insane from those I've seen

This game made me realize SRPGs truly is a dead genre. So shallow and shit.

>>715385135
Rework of how items work is definitely an improvement that can be made in a sequel.
I was able to limit myself, though mostly just because I'm a "save the megalixirs for the ultimate boss that never comes" gamer, so I had no issues. But if the higher difficulties just disabled any item that does something a valor ability does, that would indicate how to play it if you want more strategic depth. Item spam does remove that depth. Which is fine if you'll just playing as a waifu collector.

>>715373004 (OP)
I like Fran

>>715385742
If you like turn-based tactics you should try Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children. It's a lot more challenging than Fire Emblem too (I recommend playing on Hard but it has even higher difficulties)

>>715385742
>the art direction and character designs are insane from those I've seen
Yup, there's something for everyone, but if you especially love knightesses, this could be your favorite game ever.

>>715373004 (OP)
Absolutely fantastic game.

Best girls for me are Rosalinde, Eltolinde and Virginia without question. I only wish you could choose both Elves.

>>715386187
Damn, you're right. They should have a poly route with the linde sisters and Meli on the side.

Mordon, Bruno and Amalia are my favourite characters.

>>715384979
Yeah the teamcomps pretty much make up most of the strategizing since most maps are simply bulldozing to the goal, but most have side objectives. There are a few fun tricky maps that would make you play more strategically than just walking.

Inorganic shill thread.

>>715387195
I love that one early Albion map that has ships that spawns endless angels on you. Wish there was more of that kind of thing instead of the huge endurance tests.

>>715385742
>Art direction
It's a Vanillaware game, the art is like 80% of the draw.

George Kamitani does great artwork. Still think it was hilarious when a western reviewer said the way he depicted women in Dragon's Crown was gross so he sent him this pic saying "maybe this is more your taste "

>>715373004 (OP)
I love this l'il nigga here. Brainstorming ways to make him work was a challenge, but finding out he pairs up well with Liza as frontliners was rewarding.

>>715384979
It's an optimizer's game. If you ever played a Fire Emblem game efficiently, you will probably find UO at least a little bit entertaining. I think a lot of people walk away with a negative impression because, basally, the game will not ask much of you to simply clear a level. You can sort of play like a retard and still win, relying on items and re-engaging the enemy multiple times to chip them away.
But if you try to play it well, there's a bit more ceiling to it than you'd expect. Not enough to sustain endless replayability, but there's some depth there. I personally enjoyed skipping straight ahead to the best kingdom after Cornia on one run (normally the 4th, after Cornia). Or defeating Amalia in Act 2, by actually 0ing her HP. Or figuring out the best route through Cornia itself on repeat runs. Or figuring out divine shard optimization, getting as many Sniper's Lenses asap, etc.
I would compare it to the Into the Breach level of depth or cognitive effort at the ceiling level, but Into the Breach is harder at the floor.

>>715388070
>best kingdom
beast kingdom*
though is also the best too

>>715387901
This is something I have to do next time.
Feel like many of the regular shields are somewhat underutilized. At least in my playthroughs. A unit either has a good guard skill on their own, or it's a unit that you don't really want to block, so you probably give them something to buff stats instead (Landsknechts, for instance).

>>715373510
Yeah, hit to close home.
The worst thing is that there are foundations for really solid game but its just mediocre at best even with gorgeous vart and plenty of cute waifus.
>almost zero choices in the story and only one that matter for meme ending
>no story branching
>no game plus
>easy even on hardest difficulty
>no choices that matter
>it drag too long
It would be much better if harder and shorter but with many story branches and choices, secrets and recruitment characters, game plus modes etc.
Otherwise its just to play once which is shame.

>>715388439
Nigga they don't have that many games. The more people buy their games, the better.

>>715388597
secondary

>>715388754
He's right tho, they only make a game once every 2000 years

>>715388554
I didn't really feel like the story needed branching paths, although it would have been cool to see a dark Alain route. I agree about the difficulty and the length though, Albion could have been cut with little lost.

>>715386187
artists are such faggots.

>>715373004 (OP)
how does it compare to ogre battle?

>>715388183
I found Landsknechts to be entirely win-more units. Eventually dropped them entirely.
A bunch of units I never even tried though, that I will need to look into whenever I decide to replay:
Actually using elven fencer (I had one as part of the buff squad for my nuker)
Any Bestral aside from the Owl

They should make a gacha game out of this IP so we could get constant waifu updates

>>715373403
>Reminder that Virginia was in the same castle as Alain the night they fled but the queen decided not to wake her

>>715373797
Same. I married her. Great ending.

>>715389410
I'm actually going to replay 64 in the near future to get a more up to date opinion, as I haven't played it since the early 2000s. Based on my memory though, Ogre Battle is filled with secrets, which aren't present here, but Unicorn Overlord has much deeper mechanics due to having what is essentially the gambit system.
I don't remember Ogre Battle being hard at all, but I of course got the bad ending from killing every single enemy unit with dragons and liches.

>>715389550
Virginia was too busy getting rescued by the Knights of the Rose.

>>715389448
>this IP
"this IP" is almost certainly going to begin and end with this game, partly due to the genre and partly due to being console locked.

>Got bored at the 2nd country
>Went back to it
>Forgot the setup of my 10 unit groups
>Don’t want to restart from the beginning
What do?

>>715373004 (OP)
I played like 20 hours and realized it was a glorified auto battler (throw units at enemy base, no further input) and stopped.

>>715389742
Rebuild your squads from scratch.

>>715389742
Just restart, you're not that far in and will be able to steamroll Cornia now that you know what to expect.

>>715389590
damn that's pretty high praise, I'm watching some gameplay and it looks pretty cool. I'll have to look into it

>>715389887
i'm retarded, I just realized it's only on console. I guess I can't play it

>>715373004 (OP)
Aubin

>>715389956
Does seem like an odd omission. Surely if you have an xbox version it can't be hard to throw it on PC.

>>715390431
It's not that it's hard, the company just doesn't want to.

>>715389663
>Evacuation of the royal family
>Get the queen's guard rejects
Virginia can't stop taking Ls

>>715373004 (OP)
>the game is piss easy baby mode
Yeah I see why you like it

>>715389556
Based taste, anon. Her ending actually felt earned, not just tagged on for waifu points. That whole arc with her slowly opening up and finally trusting Alain hit harder than I expected. Even the CG during the credits felt more personal than the other routes.

>>715373004 (OP)
I like Breakers. I like having Nina shout KUYASHII 4 times before she starts killing everyone in one hit.

>>715393557
While I stuck her in my main hero's squad just because I needed another body, that's another class I don't feel I utilized much. They always seemed quite annoying on the enemy team though.

>>715393557
Nina Smash!

The fact you can only ship Alain with a single girl is a travesty. You should be able to pair most boys and girls.

>>715395181
personally i always felt pretty comfortable with two breakers on hand. never felt like i needed all three of the ones the game hands you by default. so out of the two playthroughs i did, i had to drop one of the three. which is too bad, because i like them all.

>>715395181
They really only shine if you abuse Assaulting Blow or Row Smash with them along with Enrage, since they get to stack attack and accuracy before either deleting a row with an uncoverable unguardable attack or just decimating the enemy with an attack that gives AP back so they can do it again. There's definitely simpler ways to wipe out the enemy that don't involve tanking four hits to stack +80% attack and +80 accuracy, but it's a fun one. One of my squads was just Alain and Nina.

>>715373004 (OP)
why does vanillaware hate pc? why?

>>715373004 (OP)
I tried the demo and the gameplay seemed extremely boring but I love the character designs (yes the hot girls). What do...?

>>715400204
Pirate the Switch version.

>>715384218
Easily.

>>715387901
Lex my beloved.

>>715373004 (OP)
My favorite character is Virginia. Love her playstyle and her actual personality.

Switch 2 patch with mouse support when?

>>715397701
This is the most Fire Emblem-specific criticism I've ever heard for the game.

>>715390431
A few years ago, one of Marvelous' producers got asked by a magazine about why Muramasa Rebirth hadn't been ported to modern platforms - apparently it had been discussed but there were "complications" preventing it. There were rumours doing the rounds at the time that Marvelous were only prepared to rerelease it if there was a PC version to sell to the Chinese, but Vanillaware dug in and refused, meaning it went nowhere. Last year, one of Sega's producers explicitly said on the record that they were pushing for a PC release of Unicorn Overlord but George said no and wouldn't budge.

Makes me think the Muramasa thing might’ve well been true.

>>715373004 (OP)
Virginia Is amazing guys.

>>715402204
more like vagina lmao

>>715402204
Tits too large.

>>715402204
we know Alain, now stop posting on 4chan and sire a child so you can have a successor

>>715388168
>This girl is 14years old
I laughed so hard when the ages came out and a handful of my friend group got outed as Pedos that married a kid.

"I just thought she had a big ass!" Save it for the Judge.

>>715388554
>It's like a gatcha game because it has a linear story
>It's not a solid game because it doesn't have story branches
Meanwhile, the Fire Emblems with story branches tell the unquestionably worst stories in the franchise

>>715400529
fuck I wish anime was real

>>715373403
She's his cousin you sick faggot.

>>715389742
Just remake them

>>715387901
his class is basically just insurance to prevent your fliers from getting deleted immediately. Still useful since fliers are mostly all OP in this game

>>715403074
Historically accurate, that's what he said.

>>715402204
Tits not large enough

this game made a strong case for evil women, dark elves, and incest

>>715387901
Refer to the manual.

>If you have Rosalinde at A rank when she's discussing the ring ceremony the dialogue changes and she blatantly hits on Alain instead
>When Scarlett starts pulling her "W-What are you saying!? I'm no-not in love with him!" bullshit, Rosalinde instantly goes "Oh, awesome! I'll happily take him then."
>Rosalinde straight up sprints into her ring ceremony, she's so happy and excited
>Eltolinde's entire support chain is about holding hands and then hugging an Elf Princess
>Eltolnde just casually throws the gauntlet down against Scarlett when doing flower fortunes
>Eltolinde's ring ceremony makes it clear she intends to not just give Alain her virginity, but love only him in all her life
>Rosalinde's is about how she'll make sure Cornia lives on in his legacy even after he's gone, making sure he's never forgotten
How in the world did they expect the rest of the cast to even begin to compete with these fucking Elves?

>>715403493
They knew what they were doing.

>>715403408
I really like what a massive difficulty spike Galerius is over the rest of the game. Made it satisfying to beat him myself, and makes it fun seeing the absolutely fucking bonkers comps other people use to take him down.

>>715403614
It was nice that it vindicated my use of the swordmasters even though they felt like they were getting powercrept

>>715403493
>How in the world did they expect the rest of the cast to even begin to compete with these fucking Elves?

Very easily.

>>715373403
Virginia belongs to Josef. She’s his reward for dedicating his life to the crown and to the people. He gets to continue that part of the royal bloodline. Plus it puts her in her place after disrespecting him and fucking up that one mission.

>>715403928
Wrong.

>>715403928
Virgina is for Gilbert.

>>715403408
>hit 22 times in a row
that poor horse

>Virginia appreciators

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQAmCxo_9zg

>>715403984
>>715404015
>imagine giving a Drakenhold spawn a claim to the Cornian throne

>>715404172
Desertfags will not get the throne...
But cute fluffy foxes 100% will rule this country for the forseeable future

>>715373004 (OP)
I just got this on sale too.
Havent booted it up yet tho, glad you're enjoying it OP

>>715403158
gross

>>715405295
funfact: incest being horrible was actually a Catholic Church Psyop to promote their Affinity bullshit.
The chances of 1st generation incest producing a retard baby is similar to having kids with the mom being over 30

>>715405704
Funfact: Virginia is a hag and her chances of producing fucked up offspring are magnified significantly

>>715406782
She's 21, you slanderous fool.

Sex with Chlones.

>>715407240
JOJO DES

>>715404420
and it's the right choice

>>715405704
>funfact: incest being horrible was actually a Catholic Church Psyop to promote their Affinity bullshit.
>incestfaggots actually believe this
Take your meds

>>715405704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-35W_FWCT9Q

>>715373004 (OP)
Eltolinde
Elves don't seem to live AS ridiculously long as other universe's elves. Like the twins are only about 40ish iirc.

>>715406782
Virgina's got at least a decade before she has to start worrying about malformed children.

>>715373403

That's cool but I'm marrying the infertile hag witch and leaving the kingdom to rip itself apart over a successor after my death.

>>715408152
It's an incredibly hard choice between Rosalinde and Eltolinde, but in the end Eltolinde's ring speech put me over towards her. It's just a really sweet conversation, she wants Alain to truly understand the enormity of what marrying him means to her, the inevitable pain that it will bring, and she wants him to love her enough to ask that of her anyway.

There is only one answer.

>>715408290
What got me even before the ring scene was how forward Eltolinde was in her rapports. She's the one who was really initiating some skinship and I expected that sort of thing from Rosalinde instead.
I was pretty dead set on Rosalinde at the start but Eltolinde's frankness really won me over.

Give the ring to your adoptive dad and marry both elves. Fuck you Unicorn, monogamy isn't always the best choice

>>715408734
-ACK

>>715408734
>>715408782
The Unicorn's entire deal is about not *cheating*.

It's fine to marry both Elves as long as both parties go into the agreement fully aware of it. The whole issue is about breaking/betraying the covenant you form, as long as you enter the covenant with them both agreeing to share, then there's no issues.

>>715408290
yea I thought eltolinde's scene was way more romantic.
Rosalinde is great but her scene comes off as if the throne is a prize for her

>>715408964
Well she's already made her feelings for Alain extremely clear, it's more about her saying that he doesn't need to worry, she'll be a Queen worthy of him as long as she's able.

>>715408354
This

>>715403939
Yes you!

>>715409235
Here's the actual list.

>>715408354
Haggie-chan...

>>715409235
The Divorce numbers are staggering...

>>715408454
Eltolinde being a bit crazy is truly one of her greatest points.

>>715409296
This is the Japanese list.
>>715409235
This is the "overseas" (aka everywhere except Japan) list.

>>715373004 (OP)
I finished this game. It's a 5/10. The disappointment is big on the choices. you can't punish everyone, and become a tyrant yourself. also, the nsfw part is clearly mild. this is no longer based Atlus

>>715397701
I would have a giga yuri kingdom while fucking my fox wife then

>>715409560
Sounds like blasphemy.

>>715409235
Best wife =/= Best Queen

Had to give her at least one flaw.

>>715408963
if you do any of the girls' highest rapport conversations after doing the rite it is revealed as merely a dream because Alain won't break the rite

>read this stunning FanFiction about Alain proposing to Leah

Woah, I wonder who wrote thi-

>HarmanSmith

FUCK. He’s actually good?

>>715409507
>also, the nsfw part is clearly mild.
The Imageset of Alain taking Railanor and Galadmir's virginities together and the other one of him deflowering all the Angels on the same bed immediately shows that's not true.

Most series wouldn't get even a fraction as much high quality defloration as UO got in those two series.

>>715409713
Nah, that's only for a few of them. The game's a bit funny about that. Same as how it's a bit of a mess which rapports count as romantic and which don't, like Tatiana's rapport feels completely romantic but it's considered platonic rapport and so you get a platonic ending. That was a big deal for the people who wanted gay romance, since they basically got bait n switched, with the only actual gay options being Travis and Aramis.

Anyway doesn't matter regardless, since it wouldn't be breaking the rite. The idea would be to go into the rite in the first place with both Eltolinde and Rosalinde agreeing and happy to share.

Fat fuck.

>>715410464
I feel like it's implied fairly obviously that the rite is a one-on-one thing

>>715412334
Sure, but even so, it's still 100% about consent. The whole thing about breaking the covenant is about betraying the agreement that you and the "Maiden" make. That's why you can make it even with Josef or any other non-romantic partner, because the covenant isn't explicitly about romance it's about trust.

eg. If Alain, Rosalinde and Eltolinde agreed that they would each be with Alain, but that Rosalinde would be the maiden for the sake of becoming Cornia's Queen (since Elotolinde is Queen of Elheim) then the Unicorn would be completely okay with it.

If Alain, Scarlet and Virginia agreed that they would each be with Alain, but that Virginia would become the maiden for the sake of fulfilling Alain's latent incestuous desires for his mother, the Unicorn would be completely okay with it.

>>715412538
You're over thinking it.
Also, that's headcanon.

>>715412635
So is assuming the Unicorn will snipe anyone who has anything except a standard relationship. Like I said, the game makes it extremely clear the covenant is about trust.

Marrying Virginia has nothing to do with bloodlines or cousins or anything like that. I simply think that she's the best girl who has a complementary personality to Alain.
Her being his older cousin who looks like his mom and acts like his older sister is a bonus.

>>715404141
Yeah Virginia Is cute as fuck.
did someone have that piece of porn than an Anime did in this forum

>>715413481
Based

>>715373403
>Mom comes back to life
>Hey, Mom! I married my cousin who everyone says looks exactly like you!

>>715413879
Aramis. The A stands for Architect

>>715373004 (OP)
i played it during spring this year, it’s an amazing game but by the time you reach the 4 zone its gets
TEDIOUS, they could have realistically fuse the 4 and 5 zone into a sole continent and it would have had a a much better pacing.

>>715373403
Nope. she's marrying the prince of Drakengard for political reasons, sorry.

>>715413985
Would her reaction be better or worse to finding out you married Dinah?

>>715383678
by the 4 zone Alian and his team became my tactical nuke, i soled the final map just with them lol

>>715373797
Incredibly based anon

>>715373004 (OP)
This game bummed me the hell out
I really like almost everything that VW puts out but this game was so painfully easy that it just didn't grab me and I pretty much completed it out of a sense of obligation.
I feel like the autobattler shit does more harm than good

>>715415347
cat hat always wins

>>715393557
>>715397392
I love my wife Nina

>>715413481
It's funny as hell how she looks basically identical to his mother. I like it a lot.

>>715413985
What about

>Hey, Mom! I married an Elf Princess that's going to live for hundreds of years! Yeah, our Kingdom will pretty much get folded into hers after my death. It sounds a little worrying, but Elf Pussy truly is just that good.

>>715420274
Abdicate when your kid is old enough to take over so that they become king/queen and your elf wife retires with you instead of becoming solo elf queen of the human kingdom for hundreds of years after your death.

>>715420274
Elto loves Alain too much and would never do something that would make him unhappy even after she outlives him.

>>715408734
Edit.

>>715373797
It is said that Melisandre fans have the greatest taste imaginable

>>715410110
Sauce?

>>715415706
>reflect magic
Owned lel

>>715373004 (OP)
The best girl

>>715423805
Sendrawz, it's on Kemono.

>>715424181
thinken of those beans

>>715424545
The Rheafag himself...

>>715410057
No idea who that is, but based.

Bump

>>715373004 (OP)
>but not so much that I am getting stressed or locked in.
oh boy, just you wait.
I had to take a 6 months break from it before finally beating it even though I enjoyed it.
managing 40+ units with 4 item slots each and programming each of their move priorities does become overwhelming as hell eventually. especially if you're like me and like to redo your squads after you get 5 or so new characters.

>>715423503
At least she's open about being a ho but I can't respect that

>>715409152
>Was there when Grandpa was fucking with Unicorn laws
>Didn't try to stop it
If she literally did her damn job, none of the Galerius bullshit would of happened

>>715429703
She walks it back if you marry her.

For me it’s the self-hating halfie

New IP when, VW

>>715399969
To make annoying PC vegans seethe. I love it. I hope they continue not posting their games to PC.

>>715415706
Why is the camera jumping back and forth?

Be honest anon, did you choose Virginia because incest or because she is best girl.

>>715437862
Don't talk about my wife that way Cornian dog

>>715436868
the camera focuses on the unit who is about to take an action, and then focuses on the target. Since this is all buffs it doesn't look like much is happening.

>>715438381
>TARGET IS TAKING ACTION
>>ZOOOOM IN CLOSER

>>715373004 (OP)
Haven’t played it in a while but I remember loving Rosalinde and Eltolinde, wish they were a 2 package deal as sisterwives

>>715373412
>>715373403
Virginia is so charismatic for an older cousin, she fills that mommy role too

>>715388554
First vanilla ware game?

Listen, I get that their games are loved, but they are 100% carried by the art. They are all too easy, take way to fucking long for how basic the gameplay is and the stories are window dressing.

Like I suck donkey dick at RTS games, yet at UO I'm a god. The reason to keep playing is the same as any ubishit game: clearing the map and 1% of the missions are legit fun.

Going to go full boomer, but why was it always okay to shit in realistic looking games if their entire selling point are the graphics, but once its some sort of handdrawn look, its suddenly fine to suck a games cock?

Disclaimer: I have not played Sentinals

>>715373004 (OP)
>Game has bunch of difficulty options
>Even the hardest is easy
This shit blows my mind
What the fuck is Vanillaware's problem, why don't they even give at least an actual Option to make their games not piss easy

>>715440610
>Going to go full boomer, but why was it always okay to shit in realistic looking games if their entire selling point are the graphics, but once its some sort of handdrawn look, its suddenly fine to suck a games cock?
Artistic values is different from "graphics". A game with a very unique and kino artstyle is not the dame as a game that just has impressive high rendered realistic graphics, which is what people usually refer to when they say a game has good graphics, not their artistic qualities.

Also, Vanillaware's appeal is not just the artstyle, but the entire presentation of their games, this includes the music and the often fairy tale like story tellings too.

Also don't confuse a gameplay being easy with the gameplay being bad. Vanillaware games still usually have tight controls and plenty of abilities/gameplay content. It's a shame that they never give you a proper hard difficulty option, but you can still make their games challenging with some self imposed restrictions, which can work well because the fundamentals of their gameplay are still well good.

>>715441928
>this includes the music
It's underappreciated how good the sound design in UO is. Listening to a knight unit tearing apart Zenoiran scum is orgasmic.
>It's a shame that they never give you a proper hard difficulty option
Dragon's Crown endgame content is an absolute nightmare, especially for some classes. But I guess this doesn't count, since it's endgame. But I always felt like this game has a really good difficulty curve.

>>715375575
Based and Bestralpilled

>>715440610
Good art and audio are fundamental to a good game. It's very difficult to make a good game without them, and if they don't exist in a game that's not a fixable problem. Whereas game balance is just a matter of tweaking. You could adjust some numbers or do a self-imposed challenge and the difficulty problem is fixed. That's why UO is good despite lacking in some categories. Art, sound, and design are worth far more than difficulty and story. If your game is ugly or annoying to play it doesn't matter how well-balanced it is.

Even the NPCs are cute and likeable

Unicorn Overlord falls just short of being amazing. The game starts to lose steam towards the end of the fourth continent and the final one felt very unfinished. I am unsure what could have made me stay engaged longer. Either make the preceding part faster with some editorializing or introduce some new and interesting elements to keep the player's interest up.

>>715442895
how do they reach the top shelf?

>>715443014
They stand on each other's shoulders.

>>715388168
Sheeesh she trying to look cool with her own Naruto running? I can respect that!

>>715438593
Vanillaware is good at drawing beautiful women, shame their games have wonky concepts, see
>>715436868
Kills it for me.
Dragons crown was OK, gets repetitive at some point.

>>715385896
Cute short hair and nice sandals

Vanillaware should outsource its talent to a proper game developer.

>>715373797
>>715380236
>>715386187
These anons know what’s up!

>>715385209
You’re fighting an uphill battle Scarlet bro

>>715385195
Have you forgotten her age anon?

>>715442949
They needed a third promotion level for units. Levels don't affect that much, promoting is what really scales units' power. You and the enemy both have promotes by the third region, so once you get to the fourth region there's not much new to see and you already have optimal units that roll over everything. The game is way too long for only two class tiers.

Don't let sissy magicians rule over you, power through.

>>715443906
All I see is Melisandre looking absolutely fabulous

>>715443743
The new classes are worth trying out. Bears and Owls are OP as shit. No one even realizes this, though, because they don't bother trying out the new stuff. Plus, you continue to get significant equipment upgrades, like the Amber Sniper's Lens. I kept customizing and reorganizing my squads up to the end.

>>715385209
She has nice titties
Shame about her personality though

>>715444170
It's true that you can remake your squads, maybe the bigger issue is that you don't have to. Finding the strongest combo is satisfying but once you have it there's no incentive to switch things up, the game doesn't force you to adapt that much

>>715444170
>No one even realizes this, though, because they don't bother trying out the new stuff.
Nah, it seems they're introduced early enough that most people make a new unit with them or at least try them out. It's the angels that absolutely nobody bothers with

>>715444314
I find that while, strictly speaking, you don't HAVE to change up your squads, the default state of a squad on any given map is sub-optimal. You usually need to make tweaks if you want to consistently one-round things, and I always take that as an opportunity to make larger changes.
>>715444426
I've seen anons say they don't bother with bestrals, because they already have their permanent squads and they're weird/confusing or whatever. Featherbows are also amazing. Bit harder to recommend swords, shields, and staffs, though.

>>715444426
It seems like most players don't even make it to angel land, I've seen a lot of anons saying they dropped out in Bastorias.

>>715373004 (OP)
PC when?

>>715445382
You know the answer to this and yet still you ask anyway

>>715444426
That angel archer girl and the angel shield guy always find a place in my squads, but not remember their names already shows that they come too late.

>>715375302
My racist fucking wife

>>715409235
>amalia third place
we're eating good bros

>>715445682
You can get them at the end of Elheim. Well, Raenys is on the far side of Albion, but I think you might be able to get a generic before then.

>>715444170
>bears OP
can't agree there. Sure they can be used to great effect but the amount of setup/unique equipment necessary compared to say, Berengaria or Alain is way higher.

god this gane was great i meed to replay it

>>715393557
yep this is the answer

>>715447256
Comparing unique units to generic units doesn't really cut it.
Barely any generic unit is just good in isolation, they always benefit from set-ups and good compositions.

>>715444426
yeah angels show up a bit too late to really feel like figuring out where to put them. Especially since by then you should have multiple kill squads who don't need to be edited further. The only reason I made one was because I saw the flying buff banner and wanted to use it also because angels are cute

>>715447484
Comparing things is how you decide what's strong, adding exclusions to that just makes it pointless.
90% of the time when people say "X is OP!" they have some combination of amber lens/cat hood/Gilbert at which point any AoE is good.
>>715447823
I feel UO would've greatly benefited from having an option to level scale the story to your completion % so you could do zones out of order without ending up over-leveling.

>>715442460
>Reeeeeee! Filthy skinnies! Death to all h*mans!
>Falls in love with a human and marries into the most powerful human family in the land.
You love to see it.

>>715447256
Well, that's not the right equipment/tactics to make them good. You want to spam Round Swing - a 225 potency split between 3 attacks (meaning it's effective at countering Deflect and Parry). Equipment is just a Sniper's Lens, initiative gear, and +AP gear. Nothing fancy. Their row attack pretty much kills everything in the game except, because it's unarguable and multi-hit with such massive power. Row cover skills are the only thing it struggles with, which are rare. Main downside is that they're slow, but initiative fixes are everywhere.

I know anons find Berengaria hot and all, but to be completely honest, she's always been kinda severely overrated. Her strongest attack is a single-hit 75 potency row attack, that gets an additional 75 potency (150) total against statused targets. It's kinda bad and weak frankly, and needs tons of support to kill anything in one sweep - besides the status itself. She basically depends on a status setup before she can even do mediocre damage.

>>715448347
>I know anons find Berengaria hot and all, but to be completely honest, she's always been kinda severely overrated.
I felt the same. Her damage simply isn't that good, even with the pursuit spam. If anything you're probably better of having her play support and spam her stun.

My wives

>>715448636
Yeah, I mean she's weak as shit. She does have some things going for her, some decent utility skills, some initiative control, and she can work alright with some help. But it's bizarre to me that anons keep ranking her so high to this day. She just ain't that good.

>>715448030
>Comparing things is how you decide what's strong
Okay, but have you considered that unique units are unique and very limited? So you will use generics anyway. So, the argument that certain generic units are weak doesn't cut it if you will use them anyway while comparing them to limited uniques.

>>715449261
>Okay, but have you considered that unique units are unique and very limited?
So is plenty of equipment, like the sniper amber lense.

>>715449261
Generics are not even weaker than uniques as a whole, anyway. It's one of those oft repeated myths in UO that has no real basis in anything other than "vibes." Some of the strongest classes are generic - Griffin, Wereowl, Breaker, Radiant Knight, Great Knight, Witch to name a few.
It's true that the unique classes are overall decent to good, but that doesn't mean they're better than all generic classes. The main thing that decides whether a class is strong is what equipment it can use and its skills. Uniques don't get access to special equipment, and every class has special skills, so the playing field is pretty level overall.

No love for Chloe?

>>715448347
>>715448636
You aren't using her right. She debuffs the entire enemy squad, stuns the entire front row, and then has an extremely strong free (against afflicted targets) followup she uses every time an ally attacks. She also tanks and does massive single target damage to an afflicted target.

my problem with the last two continents was that by the time i reached there i already have my team built and working, i wasn’t going to swap members when i have something solid already, maybe the should have let us have 6 members in the party to try out every characters in the game.

>>715449603
May be a case-by-case study, but I think what creates this impression is how many of the unique units are strong by themselves, without much setup. Like the already discussed Berengaria, you can put her in any team in the frontline and she will be able to sustain herself and hardly feel like a detriment.
>The main thing that decides whether a class is strong is what equipment it can use and its skills
This is one reason why I was never much of a fan of Virginia as a unit. Two shields but only one special item doesn't really help her.

>>715449896
At the end of the day you're killing things in UO. I would rather just kill things than status them or hit them a million times with a PP skill. Berengaria has a weird mixed offensive attacks with an affliction gimmick. No one real "killer app" moves. She's okay but there's no justifiable reason to rank her as a high tier unit. She's kinda middling in the campaign and straight ass in the coliseum (online and off).
>>715450098
>May be a case-by-case study, but I think what creates this impression is how many of the unique units are strong by themselves, without much setup. Like the already discussed Berengaria, you can put her in any team in the frontline and she will be able to sustain herself and hardly feel like a detriment.
She's definitely a generalist. I just wonder how desirable that really is in UO, where you want highly stratified role players doing 1 or 2 things really well.

>>715450219
>She's definitely a generalist
Meh, she can work as one, but she does best in debuff spam squads.
Which is probably one reason why many people pair her with Travos, not just for the story.
The rogue class is actually one that needs discussion, feel like they can do more than just spamming blind (even though, it's a good skill).

>>715450748
>feel like they can do more than just spamming blind (even though, it's a good skill).
Please share. Because their other attacks aren't ranged all their counters and AP/PP debuffs only hit the front rank, generally doing nothing into guard.

>>715449924
They needed something to force you to use different squads. Maybe a cooldown system where you can't use a unit immediately after using them in a previous map. Environmental conditions on maps that disqualify certain units. Maps for certain characters only that force you to build squads from a restricted pool you might've never tried before. Forced/restricted deployment of certain units or unit types in general. Splitting the party into temporary groups that act separately so you have to reshuffle squads.

Also, probably controversial, but they shouldn't have had the Rapport system. Except for Alain, for marriage purposes. It incentivizes keeping squads the same forever and punishes you for switching them around. Just have the scenes play if you have the characters recruited and have beaten a certain map that unlocks them.

>>715450942
Rapport bonuses are nice but pretty small overall. From a gameplay standpoint, you're not going to feel too big a hit from circulating characters around a bit.

Reminder than Virginia Is one of the few girl than Alain kiss in her confesion scene.

>>715450098
I feel it's people conflating "this unit is strong" and "this unit does a gorillion damage". Outside of Gilbert and Selvaria/shamans, none of the support units really get the time of day in discussion. Tank units are considered undesirable a lot of the time because their damage is low.
>I was never much of a fan of Virginia as a unit. Two shields but only one special item doesn't really help her.
Virginia has the unique skillset of 100% passive guard without a greatshield, freeing up slots for other uses. I actually prefer she has 2 shields over accessories because most shields go unused due to low block% or prioritizing the +PP ones.
>>715450859
nta but I just slapped a raider on the team to make him un-guardable.

>>715450859
Sorry, that's something I want to try next playthrough, haven't done yet.
But my idea is using Auburns/the housecarls War Horn ability, to make their Passive Steal unguardable, and use that to break frontlines and repeatedly buff other units.
Maybe I'll pair them with an elfen fencer frontline, using the Passive Steals PP to allow them to dodge (forgot the name of that equipment or ability). Or other shenanigans.
As you can see, I also want to make an elfen fencer frontline work. To me, it's a shame that they are often relegated to flier buffers.

>>715451041
The fact that it's small makes it even worse. You're right that it doesn't actually matter much if you switch them around, but psychologically it feels more important than it is. So not only does it still discourage experimenting, it's also tricking the player when it does that. It's just not good game design for this kind of game, my guess is they copied it from Fire Emblem without thinking.

>>715450942
No items fixes that.

>>715451191
I'm (You) from the past
can confirm, works well,

>>715450219
Here's the squad I used her on. Was useful all campaign and was even the squad I used to beat the penultimate boss (main character spin to win squad handled final boss). Nothing broken or overpowered, just an insanely tanky squad that spams counter and follow up attacks and doesn't die. Could this better? Yes, and whenever I revisit the game I'll change things up. I didn't look up any builds, but just adjusted based on how my squads did. But I found her strong all game.
My playstyle was tactical difficulty, no item abuse.

>>715451573
props for finding a use for Amalia, I couldn't be fucked even though I recruited her early. Here's my bengay squad.

No gay marriages.
Fucking yeah Vanillaware.
We won.

>>715451358
Fucking neat.
I'd must say, enjoy this discussion immensely. Detractors and waifufags often say that there is nothing to discuss about this games' mechanics, but there are still units, compositions and abilities barely anyone talks about. Even when we had an active pseudo-general last year.

>>715443473
Would the game be good without sexo girls

>>715444639
Epilepsy, the game

>>715451981
Swimming through the waifu wars and shitposting to talk gameplay was a difficult task but I felt it was worthwhile in the end.
>Constant flip-flopping between fighters being completely worthless or staples to a team as everyone collectively got farther in the game
>fighting for the honor of (You)r pet class
>discovering small cheese strats like dipping into the lost woods just to get Rosalinde before starting Drakenhold
>Bruno's ass

>>715451671
Dark Knight is another class I need to explore further. I had just had the one in my cavalry squad, where it just mopped up things that didn't die to the charge.

>>715452287
>>Bruno's ass

>>715451981
I don't know how anyone could say there's nothing to discuss wrt the game mechanics. It's more that you don't have to think too hard to beat the game past a certain point. But that's a very low bar. People still talk about Pokemon to this day and a little kid could beat those games with his eyes closed.

>>715452494
I actually used him as the healer of the team by giving him the white knight's shield.
Dark flame was obviously incredibly strong as well.
>>715452582

>>715452647
Have you ever seen Fire Emblem autists go at it? I'm one of them
They argue over the tiniest, dumbest shit in the babbies games, yet no one ever dismisses FE gameplay because of its low difficulty. I get it, UO is an easy game. Most games are not that hard. Still fun to fuck around in, because it has strong core mechanics.

>>715452814
Bruno is very popular with the girls.

Hard mode should remove the battle preview.

>>715452925
I don't get the complaints, I have never played a hard strategy or tactics RPG in my life. Though I'm not counting noob trap softlocks in FFT as difficulty. That's a ridiculous binary knowledge check.
Just don't be cheap. Never save scum, and don't use easy mode options. In this particular game, it is items. The games should implement some of those sort of things in hard mode. And I know the highest difficulty in this game kind of does. But you have to beat the whole game to unlock it and it just restricts item uses. Any item that lets you skip the rest mechanic shouldn't be available on hard, because that is the basic strategy of this game. Stamina vs. the Timer.

>Can marry your cousin, the little girl, or a literal dog
Ah, the Japanese degeneracy trifecta.

>>715454338
This also.
There are so many things a sequel could do here.

>>715454338
You could make UO a significantly harder and more frustrating game with small changes like this. The people saying its too easy would likely regret the tweaks vanillaware could make

>>715454789
I think of the first playthrough it would be too much because of all the different passive and active mechanics working together. Would be a step learning curve for a new player for sure. But on a new game + hardmode, I think it would be a fun challenge for an experienced player.

>>715454585
Who is the youngest girl in UO?

>>715454982
Yunifi is chronologically 15 years old.

>>715454585
At least there's no little sister.

>>715455548
Chloe fits that role.

>>715455654
That's the vaunted childhood friend position, don't get it twisted.

>>715455938
scarlet is the childhood friend. chloe is the girl down the street you see at school but arent particularly close to

Every time I think about the game, I wish there was a Conquest mode that uses the entire map as a level. The sheer size and non-linearity of it would make better use of all of your squadrons, at least. In regular gameplay, I never had to deploy more than two at a time unless.
>>715455548
Older sisters are simply superior

>>715414184
She researches how many babies foxes have then approves her sons choice of continuing the bloodline.

>>715456073
Call it hopium, but Vanillaware does make consequential updates for their games, sometimes in the form of HD remasters. Dragon's Crown for instance got entire new difficulties and levels as a patch, for free.
It wouldn't surprise me if UO receives at some point a big update, or we get a new edition in a couple of years with more content or modes.

>>715456029
Chloe is on par with Scarlett, Anon.

>>715456073
Her upper body is kinda jacked.

From the artbook:
Alain (17)
Scalett (17)
Lex (17)
Chloe (16)
Josef (52)
Hodrick (41)
Clive (27)
Travis (19)
Aubin (27)
Rolf (27)
Bruno (28)
Mordon (47)
Ochlys (22)
Sharon (21)
Yahna (88)
Auch (19)
Berenice (26)
Adel (26)
Nina (19)
Selvie (23)
Kitra (20)
Miriam (23)
Fran (21)
Melisandre (19)
Colm (45)
Monica (25)
Tatiana (20)
Renault (40)
Virginia (21)
Leah (20)
Primm (22)
Berengaria (23)
Aramis (25)
Hilda (24)
Magellan (27)
Jeremy (33)
Gloucester (26)
Liza (18)
Gilbert (20)
Rosalinde (42)
Eltolinde (42)
Lhinalagos (82)
Celeste (18)
Gammel (24)
Mandrin (25)
Ridiel (16)
Ithilion (48)
Gladamir (85)
Railanor (63)
Yunifi (15)
Morard (35)
Ramona (34)
Dinah (22)
Bryce (38)
Govil (20)
Bertrand (46)
Raenys (26)
Jerome (43)
Umerus (19)
Fodoquia (32)
Sanatio (25)
Nigel (29)
Amalia (24)
Ilenia (38)
Gailey (46)
Alcina (154)

>>715456903
Is there scan of this online anywhere?

>>715456901
>Two heavy shields
>Massive sword
Her upper body must be strong

>>715442949
I left my run in the middle of the Bear/Wolf map.
I guess everybody froze to death.

>>715448030
>I feel UO would've greatly benefited from having an option to level scale
Yeah, but level scaling can also just go very wrong.
See: Muramasa tree stumps.

>>715373004 (OP)
>best game in the genre also most clearly shows the unfixable inherent design flaws of the genre
weird feeling

>>715457104
Sad panda.

>>715457104
Yeah it's up in the usual places.

how is the game on switch 2? is it locked to shitty resolution or framerate compared to ps5?

>>715457549
no, even on switch 1 it runs at full res and without frame drops

>>715442949
>>715457320
It's an extremely long game. Feels like hundreds of missions. And stronger and more people you have in your units, the longer individual fights last meaning missions just get longer and longer. It's hard to consider that a flaw though. In fact, I think the bigger flaw is not even having MORE content for post game or new game +

>>715457620
thanks anon. might pick it up on a sale. hopefully it's still fun enough to play through even if it won't reach 13S or odin sphere heights for me

Loved the game but it truly is tragic to me that we will never see a PC release. It feels like there's so much potential for mod support that we'll just never see because vanillaware will never allow it. Vanillaware doing no additional content post release just feels like salt in the wound.

>>715456510
>Dragon's Crown for instance got entire new difficulties and levels as a patch
I never heard of a new level. Thought it was just an HD release and was backwards compatible with the PS3/PSP release.

What I would say is that Vanillaware does make spiritual sequels. Muramasa is pretty much a spiritual sequel to Odin Sphere which was a spiritual sequel to Princess Crown. And Dragons' Crown is a spiritual sequel to D&D Tower of Doom.

>>715456903
>Alain's only 2 years separate from his wife
Fine with me. I'm surprised she didn't immediately start her "dozen cubs" family plan in her ending though.

>>715457809
I personally like my games complete at launch, live service slop has fried your brain or something

>>715457926
Well then you must hate UO, they did release a post release patch with some changes, like buffing swordmasters. Where did I say I want a fucking live service season pass bullshit? I'm saying having a decent difficulty option would be nice, TZ feels like it barely changes anything.

>>715456903
Ren is old
I expected the angels to be much older

>>715457739
13S was garbage are you serious? The gameplay was just a bland looking bad tower defense with none of the visual eye candy you expect from a Vanillaware game, the story was just ripping off better stories like Mega Zone 23, and the cast was bloated with too many shitty gay characters. It almost killed the studio it did so poorly.

>>715457894
*4 years

>>715457543
Everybody looks much better in civilian clothes

>>715458632
But Ridiel's leg flash...

>>715458578
*25 years
sorry, i keep messing up.

>>715373004 (OP)
I may be retarded, but the game is far too complicated for me. There is so much shit to calculate before going to auto battle or move through map that makes my head spin. I just move the map and try to engage with units that give me less damage without knowing what I'm going bad or good, especially in terms of skill management. Game is forgiving in this case but I don't find it fun. I would prefer game with less convoluted system but more challenging.

>married one of the elfs
>took a break for a month of two
>start back up and realize that Chloe is actually the best girl
what have I done?

>>715458465
great post. you've certainly given me a lot to consider

>>715458829
At least you acknowledged your mistake

>>715458465
I think Vanillaware ought to just stick to high fantasy, it's what they're best at

>>715459351
>>715443256
>She's 15
What did Vanillaware mean by this?

>>715442949
nothing wrong with albion but I think the game would have benefitted letting you tackle it earlier and scaling other continents up to compensate depending on how many missions you've done.
As it is now its mostly pointless to go out of order from the intended path except to early recruit yunifi for an SSS tier unit

>>715373403
No, she needs to be shipped off to the neighbors to shore up the alliance
The best option is a local noble (mel) to build up local support or royalty from one of the neighbors (one of the twins but they are a bad choice since they straight up say they will take over the country after you die, Yunifi or Scarlett)

>>715458465
>13S was garbage
Why are you faggots so hyperbolic?

>>715403595
>>715403493
>Steals your kingdom after you die

>>715459892
>point out actual flaws like the bad tower defense gameplay or how it's just aping better media like Mega Zone 23
>not to mention that VNs in general are just not that popular
I'm glad Vanillaware made a game they wanted to make even if it wasn't that good, but I'm more glad that it didn't completely kill them.

why does vanillaware refure to relase games on pc?

>>715460357
they make good games because they're a bunch of jap boomers
they make terrible business decisions because they're a bunch of jap boomers.

>>715460169
It's just the way people talk here, it's annoying. I played it last week, late to the party, and thought it was incredible. I get not liking it, but garbage? Fucken garbage? If it was a one-off, whatever, but when I looked for old threads in the archive after beating it, every thread had multiple comments calling it a tranny game, dogshit, no gameplay, etc. Utterly mental.
I don't think I've ever hated a bad game as much as site this routinely hates good games.

>>715460446
understandable but still surprising, even atlus figure it out that selling your games in more platforms help to maintain a good cash flow.

>>715460357
They really hate pirates and modders
And to be fair, there are a lot of them

>mention 13S offhand
>13S schizo rants about the game being complete shit out of nowhere
>I MADE GOOD POINTS WHY WON'T ANYONE DEBATE ME??!?!?!?
kill yourself autistic faggot

>>715460508
Yes, the gameplay is garbage. It's braindead and boring. It looks ugly. It's a video game, and the game part of is defintely garbage. Your mileage on the story and characters vary depending on your tastes, and honestly it does nothing better than Megazone 23 when it's literally the same story just with some War of the Worlds or Godzilla sprinkled in. Actual time travel and less twists would have actually been better for it, but every twists just makes it lamer and lamer.

>faggot brings up 13S saying UO probalby won't be as good as it
>someone tells him 13S is shit, unsurprsing since its the most polarizing "game" they released
>NO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT

No comment. Unicorn Overlord is the best game I've played this year. I don't like Dragon's Crown and don't like Odin Sphere. I think they are actually kind of bad games.

>>715460742
>Megazone 23
You must be severely autistic to think anyone has watched this, or cares about it. I've never seen it mentioned on this site in over 10 years and I'm not new to anime. Just feels like you want an "own" with some obscure bullshit that no one can challenge you on.

>>715461101
I've watched it, about 10 years ago. It is an exceptional anime from the golden age of anime.
Weird thing to bring up though. Similar premises are used it many sci-fi stories.

>>715461101
Megazone 23 is hardly obscure if you actually like anime, newfag. Vanillaware themselves have sited it as the main influence so it's on you for not knowing about it. Sorry you're a secondary. After you calm down and swallow your pride, go watch it if you like 13S is all I can tell you.

>>715461271
>sited
cited*

>>715373004 (OP)
I'd play this if I could play it on steam.

>>715461271
Yeah, see. This is my point. I think this was your ultimate goal in bringing it up. Not to evaluate the merits of 13 Sentinels as a narrative - just to fish for an excuse to call someone a casual. You're a dumb person.
>>715461252
This is how I feel. I've seen similar stories before - things that influence other things, but my first thought upon noting a similarity isn't "this new thing is like this other thing, so the new thing is bad." The thinking of an autistic.

>>715461689
I brought up the bad game play but you decided to focus on Mega zone 23. Which I get why, you can't reallly defend the shit gameplay and it's a video game so that means you lost. Instead you decided to focus on the main influence to the story you didn't know.

>>715461808
The gameplay is like 5% of it lol. It is obviously a visual novel and should be appraised on the merits of its writing (which is evidently bad because it's like another thing!). Stop being this retarded.

>>715461906
The gameplay is more than 5% and you have to play it every time you try to progress the story lmao

>>715393557
>>715397392
>>715398747
man Breakers were amazing, she obliterated those fucking bears in the Ice continent

>>715461025
Yeah to me it has everything. Content, gameplay, story, characters, and visuals are all top notch. I played through it on hardmode and tried to not over rely on the battle preview (though honestly it can't be helped sometimes when you see some real nasty loses, but I'd eat a lot of small loses). It's just seeping with SOUL throughout.

>>715461025
>and don't like Odin Sphere.
My hot take is that the remade Liefraiser version of Odin Sphere while polished and streamlined, it's too easy and all hard mode does is make the enemy damage sponges without actually making it harder. The original version's gameplay could actually be challenging at times and required you to properly manage your stamina, distance, skills, and magic if you wanted to get highest rank on a level, and I found it more fun. But the original version also has rather boring level design overall and the menu system is clunky. I think the story and character elevate it in both versions to where they are both pretty good games.

>>715456903
add ~3 for the ages to make sense

>>715463801
You married Yunifi didnt you?

>>715463801
more like subtract ~3 from the girls

I literally just wish there was more of this game
I wish there was an arcadey "start anywhere, clear out the map" mode

>>715456903
you forgot Nina's sister, she is 17 i think

My beloved desert rose

>>715464627
Too pale.

>>715464627
Used her field ability all the time, that's for sure.

>>715463534
>The original version's gameplay could actually be challenging at times and required you to properly manage your stamina, distance, skills, and magic if you wanted to get highest rank on a level
I think that original style worked much better in Princess Crown since there you're only fighting enemies one-on-one instead of large groups which undoubtedly makes it a lot more difficult, on the other hand Leifthraiser went a bit too far in the other direction to where it's more like a musou than anything. More fun? Yes but it's definitely more braindead

>>715464627
How do you feel about Cornia being more accepting of a literal dog than a sandrat?

For me it's the airheaded bimbo

>>715384223
I had Yahna opening every fight with an instant earthquake in Alain's squad with Rosalinde and Selvie on buff duty (and a little extra AOE)
I forget who the 5th member in that squad even was I think it was just someone who could clean up any last hits after Alain did his blender thing

>>715404279
Dinah WISHES she had an ass like that.
maybe once she becomes queen and starts eating better.

>>715464295
I normally think randomizers are kind of shit, but it would be fun to just randomize your units and try to make. Definitely would add a challenge.

>>715444293
>Shame about her personality though
Can be easily fixed. A shame the game doesn't acknowledge it in the story.

>>715467558
Her route is cut content and it's a goddamn shame.

>>715424181
Cool how her combat underwear has a hole for her tail.

>>715467615
We all agree that the hot springs was totally cut content right

>>715444293
>>715467558
sweater puppies are okay, but her design overall is kind of bland and stupid especially the skirt.

>>715467949
The skirt is great. Shut up.
The worst thing about her design is her hairstyle.

>>715468102
Okay now you SHUT UP because the best part about her design is the blonde drills (besides the big tits)

>>715468102
What a faggot

>>715468102
I don't like Scarlett that much but we still need MORE girls with drills. They honestly do not catch a break.
Drills are so underappreciated even in VNs too.

>>715468102
Even if you're baiting, kill yourself

>>715373004 (OP)
I really do wish we got more for the post-game
It's neat that we can repeat that one map and that they made those five teams that test your setup across the continent but it's not enough honestly

>>715468610
I'm not baiting.

This is a 19 years old.

>>715469368
And? I fail to make omelettes at almost double the age.

>>715469630
Leaving eggshells in omelettes is mentally deficient behavior.

>>715469368
Is this a metaphor for a woman losing eggs as she ages?

I wish stationing people to guard a town was for more than just harvesting supplies. It should be sometimes they would be attacked and you would have organize a defense somehow based off the people you chose to station, which would have helped shown the enemy isn't just waiting around doing nothing while you're seizing all the towns in the region.

>>715464091
no

>>715457543
>alain looking at and waving to rosalinde out of the entire crowd
based

>>715457543
>not just one, but two shoulder lolis
this man could easily solo the entire campaign

>>715373004 (OP)
The main problem with this game is that there just so many god tier girls, but there is no harem mechanic.

>>715471172
Harem are lame and only for porn. Having one main girl that you give the ring too is pure and good. Rather, I wish I could give some of my bros like Josef or Lex a prize for their hard work and loyalty.

>>715445636
>witch with bush
Erotic.

>>715471172
Unicorn is gigabased and smites haremfags.

>>715471491
>>715471529
See >>715423503
Best case is one wife and a couple of official consorts.

>>715455402
Then why is she like this?
Dumb horny lion.

>>715472148
Melisandre changes her tune when you ask her to be a queen and wants to be purely monogamous with no consorts. Cheeky brat was no match for the unicorn in the end.

This pic reminds me of that Coffin Andy Leyley pic

>>715472968
Tits too big for both.
Ilenia and Virginia are on the smaller end of tits in this game.

>>715472968
>>715473104
Alain wasn't raised by a single mother like mommy fags so I doubt he actually would find Virginia attractive.

>>715449612
Almost forgot, meant to post Chloe earlier, didn’t expect this thread to remain up and active.

>>715451981
Even the food of Unicorn Overlord deserves love, damn it looks so good

>>715454338
Interesting take, imagine if the other franchise removed its battle forecast and forced the player to do math and equations, would it ruin the pace of the game? At least UO doesn’t have Permadeath but I remember higher difficulties limit item usage

>>715472297
>Alain immediately thinks she wants him to fuck other girls too
MY HERO

>>715456073
Older Sisters/Female Cousins should unironically teach their younger brother/male cousins the ropes

>>715471491
>Harem are lame
It always seems to very insecure when I see posts like this. "I'm happier the game has less options".

>>715474193
Lmao not everyone is mentally ill, there's probably a number of kusoges on steam if you need a new toy every ten minutes.

>>715459351
Gonna go with Scarlet’s Warlocks

Once a Titty lover, always a Titty lover

>>715459523
Maybe she’s mentally 15? But that body looks too good to be physically 15

>>715449612
what would one say is Chloe's predominant color for her outfit?

Grey/Silver Mail or Blue?

>>715474193
Committing to one girl is "more options" than picking everyone.
Haremfags are just entitled.

>>715460357
Maybe they think PC is Taboo?

>>715466732
Goodness gracious Celeste is perfection

>>715404172
gotta make a plot for Unicorn Overlord 2, anon

>>715474543
She's a fairy tale princess.
>talks to animals
>completely retarded
>redeems criminals

>tfw the next vanillaware game will be out by 2026
>PCvegans can’t play it because there won’t be a switch 2 emulator for another decade
>They will still come into new vanillaware games threads to portbeg
BAHAHAHA.

>>715475168
Meds now

>>715475168
>being a console pleb
>not owning a gaming PC and a Switch

>>715474680
She also has tits worthy of being a flying unit, unlike certain disappointment.

Should i buy Scarlet Figure?

>>715476065
Yes. How much can you get it for?

>>715475980
I own a RTX 4090/Ryzen 5800X3D PC, and I still hate PCvegans. You niggas are annoying.

>>715476315
The thread was fine until you came around.

>>715476389
No
>>715460357

>simple question
>having a spergout
>>>>>falling for the bait

>>715476389
Franu

>>715476542
>Thinking (You)s matter
>I was….pretending to rage bait and being retarded!
Reddit.

>>715476315
You have a 1050 ti and an integrated CPU

Your only joy is pretending to fight against some fake victory in your head

>>715477065
>PCvegans continue to portbeg ad nauseam
Yyyyaaaaawwwnnn

Flat!

I for one actually enjoy the super flowery dialogue

>>715478076
Flat friends with Leah!

Fat elf sex
Elf princess sex
Hag sex

>>715478460
Swordmasters SUCK

>>715478460
Damn, Leah got mogged hard.

>>715478574
they're okay

>>715478574
You're using them wrong.

>>715475168
Very odd, considering PCfags can just….emulate the entire vanillaware catalog. I don’t know why they portbeg when we know the next vanillaware game is still gonna release on PS4.

>>715478893
Your Reddit gold my funny friend!

>>715415347
Instead of dragoon dive I ran Hilda with the silver trident ever since I got her and she never left the party after that.
I was hoping to make her queen but her rapport conversations and ending are so underwhelming...

Quick Impetus setups are nice unless the enemy has an owl there, fuckers. Still works if you have a double setup since only one will be debuffed and you usually start with an initiative boost.
It's also fun doing elemental roar setups with best elf Rosalinde. Getting 4 faeries and then just exploding the field is very rewarding.

Characters were all fun in general, I sometimes wish they even had more rapport conversations.

>>715457516
>best game in the genre
Huh?

>>715478998
Its really a shame, I liked design too.

>>715473876
>>715473876
UO has permadeath on the hardest difficulty if the entire unit is wiped. But I think it's more that the unit retreats and the characters are still alive and not like FE where they are actually dead.

I beat the furry continent, got to the next, played one battle, then I got bored.
You can obviously see how they spent 80% of their time on the first continent, 15% on the second, then the rest for furry and the last continent.

>>715479342
>forgot elves country

>>715450098
Whoever made Virginia's afflicted animation knew exactly what and how to do it.

>>715479143
Remove the auto battler slop and battle previews….and honestly? He might have a point.

I've only played a couple hours so far, but if the late game fights turn into webm related as I've seen in a couple clips, that's fucking great.

>create perfectly designed character
>time skip and ruin him immediately
God fucking damn it.

>>715479643
kill yourself

>>715479143
UO2 needs to go all in on strategy gameplay. I’m not saying for it to be 100% a FE clone, but the RTS gameplay has to be removed or at least modified in a way that it isn’t a snoozefest like UO was.
>captcha: PPPPY

>>715479643
You can always use a mirror to dye Josef's hair.

>>715479643
Rape all pedophiles

>>715479636
depends on how you want to build your teams, you can just as easily clear a fight by simply beating the fuck out of the enemy repeatedly.

>>715479143
When the only competition is Ogre Battle series from over 20-30 years ago, yeah

>>715373797
She saved my ass on the final boss so she'll forever be best girl to me.

>>715479838
The RTS part is the best part, and it should be embraced more. You're retarded.

>>715479757
>>715479907
samefag

>>715480029
>The RTS is the best pa-
BWHAHAAHAHAH

>>715480101
yea all me btw

>>715388070
>I personally enjoyed skipping straight ahead to the best kingdom after Cornia on one run (normally the 4th, after Cornia)
How
It railroads you linearly from elves to animals to the last one

>>715479636
The game is easy without investing too much thought into it but that also means you can do some funny cheesy stuff all the more.

>>715480101
Meds

>>715479114
Oh, neat. This was from my 2nd run, on TZ, I think. Still want to try it with a complete desert punk team one day. There's that crossbow that Liza can use to stun in place of Rosalinde.

>>715480131
>NOOO UNITS ARE ALL MOVING IN REAL TIME, SLOW IT DOWN TO ONE TURN AT A TIME

>>715480330
Yes.

>>715480372
you can just go back to play ches while complaining about it being a solved game with engines, grandpa

>>715480209
The official order is Cornia > Drakenhold > Elheim > Bastorias > Albion, but there's nothing stopping you from going Cornia > Bastorias, and even skipping Drakenhold entirely (Elheim too, but you can't get the true ending that way).

>>715480514
It’s called turn BASED for a reason, my broccoli haired zoomer friend.

Why is it that the game camera only follows Virginia/Ilenia moving when using vertical edge and never any other character or move?

>>715480608
based on no skill

>>715480583
>skipping Drakenhold entirely
You need to finish all areas to get the shrines needed for the rings to get the perfect ending. You only need the ring for the neutral one

>>715479643
Yeah, it's a bit of shame we don't get to see more of Josef before he gets really old.

>>715480995
>neutral one
I guess that's what I meant. I just now skipping the ring gives you an ultra shitty end.

>>715479643
Sis..you made it too obvious.

>>715480583
>>715480995
At least youre doing it for Yunifi and not because you're a furfag

>>715479636
You absolutely can do that to decimate enemies. There are simpler way to win but tuning the skill logic and condition is pretty fun itself.

>>715480645
probably did it more initially but realized how visually jarring it would be in a full battle and scrapped it, leaving it in on Ilenia for the demo.

>>715481383
>doing it for Yunifi and not because you're a furfag
Anon... those things aren't mutually exclusive

>>715374276
im so happy you kept that

>>715481858
Maybe, but I'd expect you to be a dog fucker if you were and not going for the human girl.

>>715479643
sodomize pedofiles to death

>>715482426
Based

>>715478460
Flat is justice

elto best girl

CHOCOLATE MILK CHOCOLATE MILKCHOCOLATE MILKCHOCOLATE MILK
CHOCOLATE MILK
CHOCOLATE MILK

Good thread. Not many games have this kind of staying power on on modern /v/.

No one on page 10 will know I gave the ring to Josef

Ochlys' Ochlyses!