Thread 715374239

How did Activision fumble the ball so damn hard with him?

>>715374239 (OP)
Ate all the peaches

>>715374239 (OP)
>Activision
I'm sorry you had to get corporate shlomo number 985

Post the Uka Uka screencap

Same thing that happened to starfox

>>715374239 (OP)
Linear platformers are a relic of early console gaming, there's nothing you could possibly do with Crash now that would be interesting

>>715374456
*Gulp* *eyes pop out of my head* AAWWWOOOOOGA AAWOOOOGA!!!

>>715374239 (OP)
Shareholders.

Since this is one of the rare instances of a Crash thread; would anyone be interested in the prospect of creating new stuff for Crash Team Racing?

>>715374239 (OP)
Activision murdered the only companies who did something good and successful with Crash during his revival period. Then they added salt on the wound by completely revising the brand again in the form of an artistically directed sequel with a girlboss and a MOBA. I wish I could see some future where Crash isn't owned by Activision especially with all the layoffs and corporate shutdowns. Just think for a moment, it was Activision that killed the IP before and made it dormant for nearly 10 years. They're the ones who thought 10+ million sales per remake wasn't enough and demanded MTX be put in one of them. Toys for Furfags is a symptom of a bigger issue, Activision's evil is the real culprit.

>>715374456
Sort of?
Crash 4 and Star Fox Zero aren't that comparable but I think the common ground is that they reset the series ignoring what came after the "golden years"
Crash 4 is particular jarring given Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled reinforced that every character mattered

>>715374775
I won't deny that Activision are evil but that's less relevant given the known drop in sales from entry to entry with Crash 4 being the flop that broke the camel's back. I don't think Activision ordered a complete change in character designs (woke or otherwise) or a story that is both heavily ripped off from other Crash games while lacking its own original substance.

Remember: TFB were the devs behind the successful but very much crap Skylanders games. I'm willing to believe Activision had a hands off approach to this but the gamble didn't pay off so they shut everything down. Part of that greed mindset is not caring about what's in the product, only whether or not the product sells. When the Toys to life fad wore off and Skylanders bombed, they axed that franchise without a moment's hesitation.

Picsreel is Toys for Bob head Paul Yann describe the Crash Bandicoot franchise (not just Crash 4) as "Looney Tunes meets Jackass". A description that only somewhat describes Twinsanity and post-twinsanity games under Radical Entertainment. And even then, nobody who knows Looney Tunes (in any era) would describe the writing and artistic decisions made in Crash 4 as "Looney Tunes".

>>715374847
I commend NF for synergizing the artstyle of nearly every character in existence but only a handful of characters in the series ever really mattered. Nobody was clamoring for the return of Zem, Geary or the mime aliens. I doubt anyone cared about a german cyborg or two chicken newscasters or Willie Wumpa Cheeks. Really the only characters that matter are the Naughty Dog cast, Crunch, Nina and N. Trance. The series if anything should've tried making better characters who didn't feel like goofy OC's.

>>715375706
>AG Crash needs a total reboot. There’s an opportunity to reset the history, and go back to his creation story and the original conflict with Cortex. In that context, you could reprise classic Crash 1 and 2’s settings and villains. It would make sense to use a more modern, free-roaming style. I would concentrate on Looney Tunes-esque animation and really addictive action. That’s what we did with the original Crash, and there’s no reason it couldn’t be done today. Given the current Crash games, people forget that he was once cool. Our Crash had a certain whimsical edge to him. Sure, it was goofy – but it wasn’t dumb.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130614004826/http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/05/07/the-other-naughty-dog-co-founder-of-the-uncharted-studio-chats-next-gen-the-last-of-us-and-how-hed-fix-crash-bandicoot/2

>>715375983
That article is dated in 2013 and it was in response to the awfulness that was the Titan games. Likewise, the Nsane Trilogy happened, he got what he wanted (sans the open world bit). Activision dropping the ball after that is a different matter entirely.

>>715374239 (OP)
DEI killed it

He is a goofy character in the age of multi million dollar games. Companies can spend that kind of money on a character that has zero pull. No one talks about him outside obscure forums. He is also now a character that is part of 'dad' gaming. No kids the age 6-16 know who he is unless their parents show them, thus once again zero pull. Their isnt a way to revive it either platformers are mostly done and the cost to advertise and build him up would be monumental and need a VERY good game along side that its a sunken cost. Crash and his contemporaries are gone.

>>715376276
It could've got way worse after the Titans games. Toys for Bob wanted to push this as the new direction of the franchise, if anything this would've been a wakeup call to any sane or logical person.

https://youtu.be/ECUqQIBup5s?si=sFqsBiAvFgwcHwJD&t=390

>there were never plans for a pc port of CTR
That feels pretty shitty man.

>>715374681
im no developer but i do like details

>>715374239 (OP)
By being a soulless corporation. Crash never stood a chance.

>>715374239 (OP)
they should sell crash to an nippon developer who cares about him, they always preferred him over there.

I finally finished 4 yesterday and overall I thought it was decent, but it seriously would've been better if Crash & Coco were the only playable characters.

>>715377646
Crash getting a manga but not an official comic or cartoon is the most bizarre thing in the world. Especially when a 90's animated Crash cartoon maybe taking inspiration from Ducktales, Goof Troop and Animaniacs would've done well. Or silly comics that are recreations of the games events or new stories, even Sonic gets comics.

for some reason, whenever a new company gets their hands on an established IP, they feel like they need to do something completely different. then it inevitably fails, and the company just seems to think that means people aren't interested in the series anymore

>>715377646
No, not even that could happen in this miserable timeline. The only glimmer of good prospects there is for Crash rests with fanmade games and ROM hacks (such as him recently getting in Smash Remix).

>>715377509
That hasn't stopped Mario with Nintendo.

>>715379639
Nintendo is the exception. They have the will and the talent to make a high quality game when they're not too lazy.

Here's my request; Come up with an original character to fit in the world.
Here's some criteria;
>Hanna-Barbera visual design (blocky, an easily-identifiable silhouette)
>Preferably an anthropomorph
>Low detail - don't complicate things
Avoid;
>memes/references
>existing/lost media

If you've got something in mind and can at the very least sketch out some designs; please do and post them in response to this.

Its Activision. If they can't milk something with yearly releases and GAAS slop they don't care. They tried it with Crash, it failed, they don't want him anymore.

And now that Microsoft has him he can rot in the closet with Banjo and Spyro.

>>715379639
Mario has the same amount of shit games as Crash. They just make them endlessly until he becomes a cultural icon like Mickey Mouse. Same with Sonic who has 06 and other bad media attached to his name. Crash fluctuates and doesn't really go for some specific niche. If Sonic is for autistic furfags and Mario is just a Mickey Mouse mascot what is Crash? He could've been the Bugs Bunny but even Bugs isn't doing well with WB.

>>715375706
Crash 4 still sold like 5 million. Then again, pretty much all of the revival games aside from NST itself feel like they have very overinflated budgets.

>>715380339
Microsoft has Crash now? You know if they gave the Xbox ads a rest and just put a few wumpa fruits on my desktop I might upgrade my windows.

>>715380661

They bought Activision, so yes. Spyro too.

>>715380729
They have so many platform scrimblos now they should just conglomerate them into a single franchise. Make a game where Cortex fucks Gruntilda and you play as their son, who cares anymore

>>715380661
This is what a Microsoft manager posted after the Activision acquisition.

>>715381001
Isn’t that a Smash fan render

>>715377107
do you not own a switch or ps4?
PC vegans are the biggest portbeggars

>>715381270
I own it on both switch and ps4. I'd buy it a third time if it came to pc. I don't get why you enjoy shitty fps and long load times.

>>715380552
Though there has been some ambitious Super Mario releases over the years most of it has been forgettable slop. And just about everything from Sonic over the past 20 years has been inartistic garbage that only a glue-eating retard could think highly of. It really does boil down to just how hard a company shills a mascot. This is why Crash & Mega Man have been fading while Sonic & Mario remain popular.

>>715380729
As bad as that is, its probably better than before (if only slightly).

>>715381001
Dare I say based?

>>715381119
Iirc, it was a smashify render.

When someone asked a Microsoft employee about a new game their answer was a flat out "No one cares about Banjo Kazooie".

Crash and Spyro's chances are only barely better than that.

>>715381513
>implying it would be any better on PC
look at the spyro reignited PC port, it's a fucking mess

>>715381970
I don't disagree that its bad. But I think Microsoft would be better at achieving a revival if they were really serious about it. The most you could ever expect from Hackdivision were these tacky Skylanders tier garbage they've been commissioning in recent years for some easy cash flow - ugly insipid games by people who are not passionate at all about the series. Most likely though, Crash & Spyro will just continue collecting dust alongside Banjo.

>>715374239 (OP)
Only 1 and 3 were good

>>715375926
Thanks to Pearson and Zembillas, the CNK bosses at least look like they'd fit with the original trilogy cast, particularly Krunk, Nash and Velo. I remember back then, I was really pissed you couldn't unlock and play with CNK's bosses, except on the GBA version. So it was cool to have them in NF.

>>715384339
They all were good, but 2 is the one that refined the gameplay and game design and was used as a base to make 3.

>>715380283
bump

>>715380552
>Bugs isn't doing well with WB.
Actually, Looney Tunes is one of the things over at WB that is actually making money.

I like catbat shake she's stuck in a shitty game

I bet no developer could handle the crash license really.
nobody would be able to make him successful, not even Vicarious Visions if they were not dead

>>715374239 (OP)
we already had this thread like a day ago, go back to bed gramps

>>715387527
If Bubsy can somehow comeback and be relatively successful, anyone can.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3039890/Bubsy_in_The_Purrfect_Collection/

>>715387967
bubsy is just "successful" because their budgets and earnings expectations are probably 50 times smaller

>>715388375
N. Flation is a staple of Crash threads. What exactly is the point you're trying to make?

>>715374716
THanks

>>715387795
How would his boss fight go?

The redesigns were one of the most unnecessary parts of IAT. People had problems with the N.Sane designs, but after Nitro Fueled, it turned out most of the problem was lighting and animations of the characters moreso than the designs themselves.

>>715388547
think anon's post made itself clear >>715380283
don't think it needs translation

>>715380283
Octopus-horse mutant that spins horseshoes around and tosses them everywhere as projectiles. There'd be slower horseshoes that are easier to hit but having great timing would let you end the boss fight easier by deflecting back the faster ones.

>>715374239 (OP)
Thread's gone to shit so I'm just going to say it.
I want to impregnate Coco and have dozens upon dozens of bandicoot children with her. I want to hold hands with her post-coitus covered in sweat, struggling to breathe while the proof of our lovemaking oozes out onto the sheets, but we're both too exhausted to care about washing them at that moment.

There is like 2 good crash games, the rest are trash.

OG tawna is a reference to Pam Anderson in Baywatch. Is that a old reference?

>>715388491
Better than being dead like Jazz Jackrabbit. If being "low budget" can keep a series alive then so be it.

>>715374681
can you add more characters without replacing the ones alredy existing yet

>>715390447
Pamela Anderson and Jessica Rabbit.

>>715378554
True, he was begging for a comic to be made about him, would Crash be better off in the DC universe, Marvel's, or go independent?

>>715391671
Yo

>>715391851
Yep

>>715391915
Yeah

>>715392013
Yup.