When did Minecraft start sucking?

jeb

>>715412874
/thread

when the secret friday updates stopped

>>715412497 (OP)
It always sucked, you just grew up and realised it.

Probably when Notch was charging beyond €13 for an unfinished java game.

many would say 1.8 but id say much earlier
early survival mode was (likely unintentionally) actually about surviving the night but they never went that direction and did a bunch of random shit that made it less about survival and more about doing nothing
but realistically it was always shit at everything it tried and didnt try to do except appeal to literal retards who say dedotated wam

>>715412497 (OP)
It doesn't.
It's just like asking why you don't get childlike joy from legoes anymore

>>715412497 (OP)
ten years ago when i personally got bored of it

>>715413473
You're making fun of a literal child anon. I know you were the same age as the child when that clip dropped but not everybody was raped and scared to go outside living terminally online as a kid. Most kids had Xboxs and consoles.

When caves stopped flooding. It died permanently with hunger.

>>715413590
>T. Hasnt played the game with the old hunger mechanic in 14 years and doesn't remember how shitty and broken it actually was prior to the hunger update or how horrible having to dedicate 9/27 of your inventory slot to single use pork chops

>>715413691
>waaah waah
Nigger;DR

>>715413809
>Can't read a simple 2 sentences
>Calling anyone else that word
Fucking kek

Hunger honestly wouldn't be a huge issue if all the negative effects didn't happen until you were half empty

>>715413691
>not having one bread on hand and a stack of wheat to craft more bread later
carbchads win again

>>715415339
>Hunger is so tedious reeee
>Huh you don't have a stack of wheat and a crafting bench you have to place and remove every time to regain HP instead of just using a stack of food

when you didn't install the superior vintage story instead

>>715416129
>game that explicitly wastes your time crafting simple tools
Go collect butterflies, faggot

>>715413557
why did you get bored of it

>>715412497 (OP)
For me personally it’s when I started to actually understand how to play it. The first two weeks I played it, I’d put on ominous ambient music and treated it like a dangerous exploration/survival horror game and it was amazing. I didn’t realize how easy it was to just jump and place blocks below you so I’d always be really careful to always leave myself a path out of any deep new holes I found. The illusion began to dissipate around the time I discovered diamonds, then I got bored and dropped it.

The fun I had creating my own playstyle with no clue how to play it optimally was an amazing experience that I’ll never be able to replicate.

When hunger was added.

>>715412497 (OP)
Never did.

>>715412497 (OP)
VINTAGE STORY

Mob votes.
They finally realized that doing fifty years of updates and losing two mobs each year is fucking stupid.

>>715418271
They're just gonna pull the vote losers out one day and go "Hey, vote to put one of these in that didn't make it earlier! :)"

>>715416129
why should i?

terrain generation

>>715421090
Aren't there mods that revert terrain generation back to the old algorithm? I've had trouble finding a good one.

>>715412497 (OP)
when notch stopped posting

>>715421396
There was Better World Generation 4 but last time I checked it only supported up to 1.7.10

>>715418135
He didn't say that.

>>715412497 (OP)
when you grew up and lost your imagination and became uncreative. i still enjoy it btw

>>715421090
If only mojang spent half the time they are doing nothing on actually doing something instead..

>>715429674
Who cares about them? You can just install one of the bajillion mods already out there. Anybody who waits for mojang to do anything worthwhile instead of sitting in their fat asses and raking in money off the bedrock marketplace, when the community is far faster and more efficient at this point, is fucking retarded.

>>715412497 (OP)
It had multiple updates which made it suck, so it all depends on what you're willing to tolerate.

1. Beta 1.8 (September 14, 2011)
>Introduced hunger

2. v1.3.1 (April 12, 2012)
>Introduced trading with villagers

3. v1.5 (January 3, 2013)
>Added Realms

4. v1.9 (July 29, 2015)
>Combat update

5. v1.13 (October 25, 2017)
>Added Phantoms

Minecraft was desperately trying to be a mix of an action adventure and survival game, but constantly failed at being an actually good game. It was always just strictly nothing more than a sandbox and autism simulator with a barren and shit game attached to it.
Even a shitty semi-live service game like Portal Knights ended up being a better version of what modern Minecraft was trying to be. And Terraria, the game people always compared to Minecraft despite being a completely different genre, was at every point in history 10x better than Minecraft.

>>715412497 (OP)
around 2014 when it was clear that development was going nowhere (though it started going that way from Beta 1.8)

>>715412497 (OP)
When it was first launched.

does anyone have a link to the /v/ minecraft server?

>>715412497 (OP)
when they never made a proper multiplayer and made people use their own servers to play online. Every other game I can just dip into and easily play online. Meanwhile Minecraft and even Minecraft players will have a ton of copium as to why it is this way. I don't want to pay extra just to play online when 99% other games do that free with no hassle.

>>715435636
nigga hosting your own minecraft server is one of the easiest things you can do.

It’s only ever been good with mods

>>715412497 (OP)
When people started playing with mod packs and PvP in multiplayer. The game always was a simple sandbox to build castles and survive the night from creepers and zombies. Now after decade and a half of autistic tech mods, mini games, and challenges, gen Z, alpha and beta are constantly yelling for new content when in reality there never was any progression, any bosses, any goals in Minecraft to begin with. It's you, the wood and the cobblestone, and your fantasy. Nothing more.

>>715429674
they're gonna catch flak whatever they do anyways so it makes sense they choose the bare minimum

>>715435714
It's still a pain in the ass and an extra cost. Can you imagine if other games like GTA5 did that? Nigga all you gotta do is stop the game lookup a tutorial on how to setup a server (when it's your first time), look at a site for top servers sign up to a server and set up your server and then you're good to go! It's a pain in the ass and kids mess it up easily theres a reason why there so many scam server sites out there and Minecraft is one of their biggest earners.

>>715412497 (OP)
bedrock edition in particular

Minecraft mods expectation:
>Holy shart bro there are so many cool MC mods that totally make the game better!!!
Reality:
>Let's add 10 trillion blocks!
>Let's add 10 shartillion mobs
>Let's add 100 gazillion biomes
>Let's add 1 trillion new weapon types
>I FUCKING LOVE BLOAT

>>715436960
I have a bunch of mods and pretty much none of them adds items.

>>715412497 (OP)
Real shit when they added the hammer

>>715436960
>when the thing you add to the thing to add more things to the thing adds more things to the thing

>>715412497 (OP)
beta 1.3

>>715436960
>graphical mods to restore old look
>some new biomes to look at
>tech mods to do more automation with
>clock mod to slow down the day/night cycle
>furniture mod to make houses look pretty
>synthwave for relaxing tunes to build to
You're becoming hysterical.

>>715412497 (OP)
a short while after it was sold to microsoft

>>715437685
>I have a bunch of mods
Such as?

>>715439723
shaders, biome info, distant horizons for larger map view, sky boxes, one to take bigger screenshots, falling leaves, one to add my own images as paintings effortlessly, dynamic lights, worldedit, zoom, and some optimizations thrown in between. None add any item.

>>715440334
None of them change the gameplay tho

>>715412874
fpbp /thread

>>715440547
I prefer simple mods over complete overhauls.

>>715438137
Night is not dangerous when you can build a temporary shelter any time. Beds only skip tedium not difficulty.

>>715436764
I prefer actually owning a server instead of using a fucking live service which can get shut down at any point.

>>715436960
>i want modders to make the game have new gameplay mechanics
>but you HAVE to butcher up the vanilla stuff because i'm going to be a whiny hyperbolic crackhead if you add any new blocks
*anon gets his wish*
>wtf mods are bullshit you can only have one at a time activated because literally every single mod conflicts with the others
you are a moron

>>715438870
>some new biomes to look at
need to add a million blocks to make a new biome with. nope.
>tech mods to do more automation with
using a million new blocks that do a single task and need to be powered with a million other new blocks
>furniture mod to make houses look pretty
adding a million new blocks just to be decorative lmao did you even read my post before replying to it
>synthwave for relaxing tunes to build to
adding more music because of course, the one thing i forgot to mention mods do, they pile on a bunch of tracks to accompany the already scattered and schizophrenic soundtrack that exists

>>715443739
That's not the point. The problem is that mods add useless shit like more decoration blocks instead of making the game better

>>715443883
Not even hundreds of blocks, why are you being hysterical?

>>715443915
create adds more decoration blocks? or is it other "useless" shit? industrialcraft? the entire sevtech ages modpack? millenaire?
have you ever actually played a modpack that does something interesting or are you going to sperg out now about "adding more steps to things" or something like that?

>>715443964
if i was being hysterical i'd have said "wakka wakka" at the end
i was merely shooting for humorous

>>715444078
Well you shouldn't, you're really bad at being funny

>>715444019
Industrialcraft is Factorio but worse. Create doesn't do anything. Millenaire is a good mod (possibly best) but it's abandoned and unfinished sadly.
>SevTech: Ages
First time hearing

>>715443915
whos forcing you to install these mods dipshit?

>>715444146
>it's abandoned and unfinished sadly
This is my general experience with minecraft mods, it's checking modrinth to see if anyone's bothered to update their shit to the newest version so I can fucking update my world and see the new shit, and no, nobody ever has.

>>715444225
>appeal to triviality

>>715440547
I'd argue dynamic lights do change the gameplay, if there's a big dark hole, you can just throw a torch from your inventary and it'll light up the hole as it goes down and reaches the bottom, if you attack a mob with something that sets it on fire, it'll also light up the place

>>715444845
I'm not trans so I don't care about visuals in Minecraft

>>715444845
Being able to carry a torch or lantern in your offhand while cave diving is extremely valuable also.

>>715413564
>t. dedotated wam

>>715444908
nigga having visibility in a cave can save your hardcore run, god you're fucking stupid

>>715445084
>hardcore
Why are you autistic?

>>715445127
why are you incapable of understanding examples? even at a basic level you should be able to understand the value of visibility

I have only played modded 1.7.10 and 1.12.2 (with backported swimming) for the past 7 years.
Don't plan on switching unless mojang stops updating java so modders stop versionchasing

Minecraft never got bad, I simply got bored of it. Vintage Story satisfies that need to collect shiny rocks, but only because it extends the early game survival aspect of Minecraft into a full game.

>>715412497 (OP)
I still find it beyond ridiculous that an ugly placeholder skin became the face of such a massive IP. "Steve" is genuinely one of the worst looking things in the game lmao.

>>715412497 (OP)
when they made it a survival game

>>715418271
>>715418506
>Jeb introduces a vote for a mob to be added in a future update
>The actual vote took place an hour before the winner was picked
>Everyone picked the phantom thinking it was a stingray
>The actual water mob was A
>They didn't explain the mobs at Minecon of that year
>Phantom is near universally reviled, option to turn them off added later
>Next year, biome vote
>Desert, Savannah and Taiga are the picks
>Desert has a lot going for it, as does the Savannah
>Everyone picks Taiga because of foxes
>Foxes can't be tamed
>This was in 2018
>More votes take place each year, two mobs are shelved
>Updates are smaller and smaller
>People catch on
>The breaking point was the armadillo adding armor for dogs, everyone coping that the armor was going to lead to better dog AI
>...and it doesn't, just makes your dumb mutt take more hits
>They actually intended to do fifty years of updates and a mob vote each time
>Copper Golem pops up last week
Never mind the stuff like the glow squid and Allay or the obvious winner like the Sniffer, the mob vote has been a disaster since 2018.

>>715412497 (OP)
When my friend group stopped playing it.

>>715448101
There's a timeline out there we weren't cursed with Phantoms

>>715448250
All they had to do was simply add all of them. That's it. There's no such thing as feature bloat when there are so many areas that are barren and need attention. Beaches are still barren and a palm tree should have been the first thing that was added. Mob C was the most 'Minecrafty' thing that was lost.
>Could remove enchantments or curses, was a reroller in a sense

Maybe contrarian, but I'd say the nether.

It's not that the nether is bad per say, it just didn't "fit". Once the newness wore off, you realize there's really no reason to go there. It doesn't change the gameplay loop in any meaningful way. It's just more stuff.
Same problem with enchanting and levels- combat was already trivialized by diamond equipment, so 80% of the enchanting system was worthless for like, 3 years.
Villages- same shit. Literally did nothing for years.

The end result has been a sprawl of lame and shallow mechanics. Bloat.