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What's stopping you from starting another playthrough of FF12?

>>715416141 (OP)
It reminds me too much of an MMO. And I never was able to get into MMO's. I tried, I tried many times but never was able to pull it off. Don't be upset, I'm jealous if anything I never was able to get into an MMO. Best I ever did was City of Heroes for a month.

there apparently is now 3 versions of this that I dunno what one is for me
even the official Zodiak Age release is fucked up in one thing or another

combat looks stiff and weird. love the boss theme and judges

>>715416141 (OP)
I wish I could use all the party members

>>715416141 (OP)
Played through it already. Too much of a timesink to get to the good parts (endgame hunts, esper/Lucavi fights) where you have access to all of the equipment/skills/spells/gambit options that make it fun.

Plus, aren't there two or three versions TZA at this point? I think there's one where each character can only select one license board, one where you can select two, and one were you can respec later if you hate your build. Or did they patch that into all of them now?

i just finished doing a full-playthrough of it (all trials, super bosses, etc.) and it was simply 'OK'. TZA simply invalidates most of the difficulty, outside of gimmick encounters.

some annoying sections of the game, story was terrible, party members outside of 2 (maybe 3) were bad, decent music. it's a weird criticism to say, but a lot of the game just felt like i was running forward the entire time. the gambit system in theory sounds good but ends up making the player feel so passive and just holding forward on the analog stick all game.

>try to get the spell/technique trophy
>there's supposedly a spell in a jar in one area
>go open the jar
>it only has some random crap
>the spawn rate is low, you have to leave the area and come back
>leave the area and come back 50 times
>don't get the spell
>quit game
>uninstall

>>715416141 (OP)
One of the best ff games. Played it probably a year ago, will cycle back soon. Love the gilgamesh lore

>>715420638
Its best FF game

But that's probably because I hate the general FF turn-based formula and FF XII is not quite that

>>715416141 (OP)
the best mainline FF, and mostly non-weeb
Ivalice is peak

>>715418938
For english speakers, TZA is the only normie way of playing the International Zodiac version of FF12 that was released only in Japan. And yeah, in TZA you are now able to respec your job boards after a patch got released early on. Dunno if that was in International Zodiac or not.

never been able to finish it despite 3 playthroughs of different versions. Even with the 4x speed option, the game is aggressively dull

I'm just after the racist bunny village, I love the setting and the world and how you run around a 3D environment and how battles just start without a fucking transition, but does the game get more complex or anything?

>>715416141 (OP)
matsuno slop.

because its shit

>>715416141 (OP)
I don't play dogshit games for losers.

>>715421605
>but does the game get more complex
Nope. The game, outside of super bosses and some end-game hunts, is just
>bubble
>protect/shell depending on fight
>use weapon debuff + armor debuff and stack it
>win
The game is a cakewalk. But depends on what version you're playing I guess.

Why is she so mad?

>>715422339
shes stuck in a shite game

>>715416141 (OP)
12 was just singleplayer offline 11 but worse and with bots built in to play the game for you.

>keeps calling him the mar-kwiss
Isn't it mar-key?

>>715422339
stuck in a game with the WOAT FF villain.

>>715422379
She's the one who made the game suck tho

>>715416141 (OP)
its not particularly fun and 100%ing it is just the worst

It's unbelievable how badly XII shits on X. Music, visuals, voice acting, characters, oh and an actual huge interconnected traversable world map to scale with beautiful and varied locales instead of selecting hallway levels from an airship. Balthier is a strong candidate for best character in the entire franchise and Fran is a goddess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wp5QtBYOMY

>>715422731
>music
Trying too hard

>>715423110
Wtf i didnt attach that chuddy image oh well it fits

>>715423110
>bro i love FF Xs soundtrack
>yeah To Zanarkand, Besaid Island...uh....
>...uh....

>>715416141 (OP)
The hundreds of better games I'd rather play instead

>>715422401
thank you for your (shit) opinion

>>715423186
every song in X is great

>>715422339
She got hit with an ugly stick mid development, she's not bad looking, but she was smoking before they nerfed her.

>>715422731
None of XII's characters do anything.
Vaan is useless and only gets to play Jiminy Cricket in one scene
Penelo is completely useless and does nothing
Fraan is completely useless and does nothing (she's also a low tier waifu, you just like bunny ears)
Balthier is by far the best character in the game and even then he does fuck all besides pilot the ship and state aloud that he's the main character (lie)
Basch is completely worthless despite how much they talk him up in the early game
Ashe is the only character with any amount of plot relevance and she has all the charisma of a wooden board

Also the music is boring as shit. Any of the first 10 FF games beats it on that front easily, and yes that includes the NES games

>>715423186
The first 30 minutes of 10 has more good music than all of 12

Hell the first track, tidus's theme, gigamogs all of 12

>>715416141 (OP)
Because I am currently playing ffx, on my
ps2

>>715423870
>ignoring Fran's voice, an obvious aspect of her appeal

The characters are well written, well acted, and well designed any way you slice it. Their "plot relevance", never mind your lame shortchanging of them, is ironically irrelevant. It's like saying Garrus is a shit character in Mass Effect because he doesn't advance the plot. Who cares, he's a badass and interesting character.

Also lmao @ your music take. Truly shit-tier taste. Only VII and VIII's OSTs are definitely better. X has about two good (good, not great) songs that people fixate on and think the whole OST is of that quality when it in fact is not. X has the weakest OST by miles in the mainline series. It can't hold a candle to the rich orchestral depth of XII's. X really is one of the shallowest, ugliest, tackiest popular games I've ever played

>start game
>turn Basch into Breaker
>farm the items needed for Scorpion Tail F
>become death, the destroyer of worlds
Bros I love doing absolutely nothing for 50 hours until I get to the big dick monsters that force you to actually play the game...

>>715424529
There is one worthwhile track in the entirety of FFXII. The entire game is the textbook definition of the word mediocre and not a single thing stands out about it besides the fact that it plays itself

>>715416141 (OP)
I haven't finished the last one.

Because I did like 4 playthroughs of it already. All of them to Yiazmat even.

>2 in the PS2 OG
>1 IZJS
>1 TZA, including the trial mode

>>715425001
>There is one worthwhile track in the entirety of FFXII
you're literally just trolling

>enter cid tower
>alt+f4 uninstall

>>715422339
Cucked by the empire

>>715416141 (OP)
I wish the side content was less cryptic. Its not worth the trouble getting to some of the optional Espers.

>>715416141 (OP)
>auto battler
Nah man I'm good. I don't play FF games to design a battle algorithm

>>715425484
It's a completely forgettable soundtrack

>>715416141 (OP)
>another
Lmao

>>715425832
not even slightly

>>715423186
https://youtu.be/ED6aa16R--k
Eat shit faggot

>>715416141 (OP)
It makes me wish I had an offline XI. XI's combat and character building had so much more going on than XII.

>>715425939
Absolutely. Any FF 1-10 is better than it easily

>>715416141 (OP)
Xenoblade 1 did everything 12 was trying to do gameplay and character wise, but a million times better. So I'd rather do another replay of that instead.

>>715426149
>ESL
retard

>>715416141 (OP)
cuz it sucks

>>715426210
You can cope about grammar all you want but it doesn't change the facts

>>715426407
I'm talking about the fact that you thought I was agreeing with you.

>>715416141 (OP)
wanna rerun it but I got about ten other games to play atm so its gotta wait

Its funny how the only "people" who like 12 are zoomers who admit they hate Final Fantasy. Fuck you.

>>715422731
nothing new nothing anything really then it stops

>>715424529
>The characters are well written, well acted, and well designed
nothing fucking happens 60hours in

>there are people who unironically like 12 and 13
This fucking place has less and less fucking standards as time goes on.

>>715424529
>The characters are well written, well acted, and well designed any way you slice it
did we play the same game?

>>715426758
Unfortunately, /v/ is browsed by people such as yourself who were born after FF12 came out and can't appreciate one of the best-written games ever made. It is the best game to bear Final Fantasy in its title, and that's one hell of a competition. Knowing your type, I'm guessing you don't like it because Vaan doesn't have a broc top and Ashe's butt isn't big enough?

>>715423186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33IR1eUUC08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuz3qGs9Wj8&list=PLAA9BB4B3A9A0E516&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGgrNEuUJpQ&list=PLAA9BB4B3A9A0E516&index=6
find some taste and gain it

>>715424550
>Farm endgame weapon early
>"WTF? Why is the early game so EASY???"
pottery

>>715426034
I've never noticed how much ffx ost is like tekkens

>>715416141 (OP)
I already played the vanilla version twice on my ps2, I left that stupid long dragon in the ruins with half hp down 18y ago, hopefully he didn't regen since then.

>>715426034
>>715426962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x7yowJVTg0&list=PLDwLDgX26uWCS2UB-ClYVwoZw2ykLVL5p&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsvB0s_bI9U

>>715426878
I don't like it because it's boring and forgettable. The plot goes nowhere for most of the game until Ashe says
>No I won't genocide my enemies, my little buddy Vaan shook his head at me
Then they all go stop Vayne who becomes a big demon man for some fucking reason.

I came close to buying several of the remasters but never ended up doing so. The more I think about the game the more I realize I didn't really enjoy it. There are some good things about it but as a whole it's just not worth it.

>>715422731
Based. XII is the best in the series. I genuinely cannot fathom why anyone likes X, it's rancid dogshit. The only redeemable feature in it is Lulu's tits.

Look at the map, huge continent , big promises of a grand adventure going all across the world

play this game, literaly just go to 3 major dungeons and game is over . Feels like eating half a meal and wondering where the rest is

>>715416141 (OP)
i've played it at least thrice, i played it just last year or so, and ultimately it's not a good game for replaying that much because it's 500 years of backtracking around large zones and the optional content is very annoying with 16 conditions for it even spawning or solving cuchulains sewer puzzle which is 5 minutes of watching gate animations slowly for example
the fun part is fighting the rare spawns and hunts, but actually making them show up is tedious as fuck

FF12 is simply not a good game, let alone a good FF installment.

i want to not hate this game but i can't

>>715427435
XII was my first Ivalice game and I felt completely let down considering how much people had hyped up the setting.
At least tactics ended up actually being good

>>715427435
Feels a lot bigger if you are doing the side content.
Also it has a lot more than 3 notable dungeons

>>715427715
that's because 12 isn't ivalice, it's fake ivalice trying to capitalize on the succesful games that established ivalice as cool. genuinely the only cool thing about the setting that 12 tries to use is the occuria for the most part. and balthier saving the writing

>>715427994
he's not wrong, you go to literally TWO locations in archadia. both by a macguffin so that you cannot walk around and leave, you get to see only this specific place. two. you -never- go to rozarria.

>>715427715
>>715428128
12 is ffta ivalice which is idk, weird childrens version of ivalice.

>>715416141 (OP)
>What's stopping you
The foresight that i'm going to get bored of the gameplay and quite once again after 5 attempts. It's just not for me

>>715416141 (OP)
I don't want to get 20 hours in and get bored and stop playing again

>>715428128
>ITS FAKE IVALICE

COPE. COOOOPPPPPPEEEE

>>715428736
i do not mean literally fake retard, i mean it's ivalice in name only trying to capitalise from fft and vagrant story, which are the reasons anyone thought ivalice was cool in the first place
i do not care about the plot of ffta and whether its fake or real its irrelevant either way