https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/gaming/ubisoft-tells-players-destroy-your-games-once-they-re-taken-offline-or-else/ar-AA1IaPCV

Genuine question: why not? It doesn't work anymore. It's like keeping a big mac box after eating it.

how about i just dont do that huh? Whatcha gonna do about it
Arrest me?

>>715428384
bobr kurwa

>>715428295 (OP)
Sorry, I'm just not going to destroy my copy because the EULA was terminated and I don't need to follow it anymore.

>>715428295 (OP)
Ok, then refund and that will be sweet.

Games are not physical products you can "own". They are walks in the park, a ball game with your friends, a trip to an amusement park. They are just things for entertainment to pass the time.
You don't gain full ownership of the park or ball game because you spent $20 on a ticket. Funny how that works huh?

>>715428756
>Games are not physical products you can "own".

>>715428756
ok, so how long can you play the game then?
a ticket to the park has a predetermined timer.
refuse to respond to this and I will (correctly) assume that you are Jewish

SKG fans claim to fight for justice, but there’s no justice in demanding indie devs work for free, release IP, and maintain servers forever. That’s not preservation, it’s exploitation wrapped in gamer entitlement.

>>715428927
>The GAAS exploiter says, as he tries to bait kids into buying his cheap microtransaction cashgrab

>>715428927
post nose

>>715428927
'das rite xister!

>>715428927
No one is forcing them to maintain servers. They can just release the server binaries and let individual people setup servers. Games used to be like this.

>>715428295 (OP)
>tfw pirate
so not only I get it for free, but I can increase its value by doing nothing but sitting on an untarnished copy?

>get banned from ubisoft game
>you have to burn your physical copy

>>715428295 (OP)
>SKG = Renewable energy, Vaccines, gay rights and Communism
>Anti-SKG = Fossil fuels, Real men, freedom and independance, Capitalism
I know which side I'm choosing

>>715428295 (OP)
Who even wrote this? This doesn't hold up in a court even in burgerland.

>>715428295 (OP)
>article from 6 days ago
>terms were actually updated 2 years ago

>>715429189
humans are not sentient animals

>>715428295 (OP)
This is old and the same applies for Baldur's Gate 3 and Rockstar Game but somehow you never mention them
https://store.steampowered.com/eula/1086940_eula_0
https://store.steampowered.com/eula/eula_Rockstar

>>715428360
>It doesn't work anymore
But it does though. Games don't naturally expire. They're deleted either willingly or by accident.
Unless there is an actual good reason ("competing" with sequel is not a valid reason) to actually delete a copy, that EULA is not legally-binding and would get destroyed in any court with basic customer protection laws, especially since Ubisoft are the ones terminating said EULA for no other reasons then anti-customer practices.
>>715428927
That's why indie devs already comply with what SKG wants by offering local servers, P2P, offline mode, etc. Only AAA companies are against it because they want to sell remakes/remasters with low effort.

>>715429189
nuclear energy is based fuck off oilnigger

>>715429492
I bet you also got your 15th booster shot..

>>715429572
2 more weeks corpocuck

>>715429358
>>715429318
If Ubisoft and SKG is the catalyst to get this bullshit into the larger conversation then it's a good thing it happened eventually, even if it's late.
>>715429492
>>715429572
Stop trying to slide the thread

>>715428295 (OP)
They fear the Mold.

>>715428295 (OP)
I can't wait to see Ubisoft get slapped with a comically oversized hand

termination of eula no need to follow it then.

>>715428756
so pirating isnt stealing then i dont know how you can steal an entire ball game
>but trespassing!
not stealing

>>715429731
I'm perfectly fine with piracy, you can't steal a service.
SKG is doomed to fail because there's no way you can force developers to maintain their project until the end of time.

>>715429650
Well guess I'm gonna go watch Bam Margera get slapped with a comically oversized hand again for the next 20 minutes
Thanks for the reminder

>>715429947
>you can't steal a service
You literally can do exactly that
Just say that you're fine with stealing, pussy

This is Baldurs Gate 3 EULA: https://store.steampowered.com/eula/1086940_eula_0

Ctrl+f termination. This EULA is shown to everyone who boots the game for the first time. Now why didn't anyone complain about this? Oh right. Because nobody cares. You only wanna make fun of Ubisoft. Or Randy. Steam is also best thing ever with their DRM platform.

>>715430032
we call those Rape.

>>715430032
Stealing means the original is gone, like stealing some milk from the store. Piracy means the original is still there, you both get milk.

99% of retards against SKG have either not even read what it's actually about, or purposefully spread disinformation for their corporate masters.
Read the FAQ, you fucking trogs.

>>715429947
first of all you can steal a service you dumb shit people have been stealing cable since the inception and two no one is asking developers to maintain and patch Shit Dick 2 it says in giant text that that isnt what the movement is about

>>715428927
Kill yourself

>>715428384

>>715430032
Don't mind me. I am just stealing this walk in the park.

>>715428295 (OP)
Of course, Ubisoft! I will DEFINITELY uninstall my vidya when you stop supporting it, honest injun!

>>715430106
It does not mean that, you are trying to force that meaning upon it to justify theft to yourself. Stealing means that you have intentionally obtained something, goods or services without lawful right to do so

>>715430205
>he has to pay to walk in a park
what shithole do you reside in?

Ubisoft can't even enforce the termination conditions of this EULA cause once the EULA is terminated you're no longer bound by its conditions and can do whatever the fuck you want.

>>715430205
If that park is privately owned and a walk there costs money then yes you could steal a walk in that park

>>715428927
Okay, Jason.

>>715429947
>you can force developers to maintain their project until the end of time.
Jesus christ, how many times do we have to say it
WE JUST WANT THE SERVER BINARIES
We're not going to expect Blizzard to keep the servers of WoW running till the end of time.

>>715428295 (OP)
and whats the sanctioned method? a hammer?

>>715428927
This is a copypaste lol

>>715430457
They will give it to you for a price

>>715428295 (OP)
Yeah, how about you go fuck yourself, actually.

why should I care?
do you ever read those?
how do you think they can enforce them?

get bent, kike

>>715430537
Honestly even that is a better outcome than just destroying the game forever. If EA wanted a million dollars to Darkspore, some retard will pay.

>>715428462
This
Catch 22 in full swing, this time in our favor

>>715429947
If they can't keep the servers running forever, they have no business selling a product that requires those servers. Keep them running or get the fuck out of the business.

>>715428295 (OP)
FAKE NEWS

This EULA text has been there for years.

>>715428858
Mirin' that collection, very nice

>>715428927
they have to do it
they have to adapt
the time has come
they have the money
they have to rehire people they've laid off
and they have to make it work
Ross demands it
Tick. Tock

>>715430574
Why is Rouge so built for human men?

>>715428295 (OP)
Seriously, who is so stupid to still buy Ubisoft games?

>>715429947
>multiple old games provided users with means to keep running the game long LONG after the game is finished
>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT EXPECT MODERN GAME DEVS TO DO THE SAME THING NOOOOO ITS TOO HARD!
There has never been a more one sided argument than SKG its like people who like eating shit vs people who think eating shit is gross

>>715429947
As usual with everyone who keeps screaming "SKG is doomed to fail!!!", you don't understand the point of the initiative.

>>715430989
>one sided argument
like 1/8th the population on earth likes eating shit.

>>715429947
Then don't make projects that require constant maintenance until the end of time

>>715431145
88 vs 12 is incredibly one-sided
Overwhelmingly one-sided

>>715428360
Big companies are our friends!

>>715428756
I have a question:
If I walk in a park and do something that goes against the park's code of conduct/TOS/EULA, I would get thrown out.
If I keep the ballgame's equipment I knowingly rented, I would get sued. If I purchased the equipment, it's mine to keep for an indefinite amount of time and use whenever I want.
If I overstay my welcome in an amusement park, past the time time allocated by the ticket I purchased, I would get thrown out.
So if EULAs give companies the supposed right to demand you destroy your purchases, why have they not been enforced?

>>715431259
shut up commie

>>715428927
indie devs dont run GAAS scams

>>715430815
>Why is Rouge so built for human women?
Ftfy.

>>715430815
good question, but here's a better one: why does she look so inflatable?

>>715430061
Interesting but the wording is a little different in BG3 case. It states that you can choose to terminate the agreement and thus license that is granted to you is void. As such you actively want to get rid of the game and you should delete it from your PC, which I think it's reasonable. It doesn't state that Larian can terminate the license for whatever reason and that you're forced to wipe it from your HDD.

>>715431482
fuck off, dobson

>>715428295 (OP)
Ubisoft is just asking for a big fine from the EU at this point

>>715428295 (OP)
>buying Ubislop
>playing Ubislop even if you got it for free

Why would you play their trash games?

>>715430032
Its called sharing not stealing you moron

>>715431557
>"and may be terminated or otherwise discontinued by Larian Studios at any time, for any reason or no reason, in its sole and absolute discretion."

>>715429189
SKG = chads with harems
Anti-SKG = virgins with no game (literally)
Yeah, the choice is obvious.

>>715431985
>communism = chad
Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night..

Unreasonable terms, now your entire EULA is invalid in the EU. Good job.

>>715431760
Read the whole sentence.
>You understand and agree that certain Services connected to the Game, and the support and access to such Services are provided by Larian Studios at its discretion and may be terminated or otherwise discontinued by Larian Studios at any time, for any reason or no reason, in its sole and absolute discretion.
That's in reference to the "Service" that Larian provides like its launcher, which in the rest of the document is always distinguished from "Game" and "Pact." The only thing that's making you destroy your video game in that section is you revoking the Pact.

>>715431259
That's why they are looking for a future where "games as services" is the standard, that's why I hate Gamepass niggers, because they are dumb motherfuckers with shortsightedness.

>>715431482
I don't know, I need more evidence

>>715432056
Anti-SKG is the peak communist activity thoughbeit
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T OWN STUFF THAT'S NOT FAIR

>>715428295 (OP)

It was written by an ESL Jeet.

>in Your possession

>>715432115
The game is the service you absolute buffoon. You can find the same from Elden Ring EULA. Ubisoft didn't make this shit up.

>>715431259
They can't enforce their bullshit EULA so long as game ownership is a concept, which is why they're seeking to eliminate it by making games a service you pay a fee to access.

>>715431760
Certain services. It uses the term that certain services can be terminated. It's not about the license or pact, but some random services that are tied to the game. I don't know what type of service they're referencing specifically but I believe it would be like invaders or world's affinity in Demon Souls on PS3. The service is unavailable now, you can't invade other people's games but the game itself works fine. I believe there's something similiar in BG3 as well.

>>715428858
>>715430731
NOOOO THESE GAMES AREN'T BEING SOLD ANYMORE! DESTROY THEM RIGHT NOW!

>>715428295 (OP)
Holy shit this eula reeks of communism

>>715432346
>I don't know what type of service they're referencing specifically
The video game.

>>715432352
Good thing EULAs back then weren't that hostile

>>715428858
Ummmmm!
@Nintendo ???
@FBI ???
This man is STEALING the hard work of VIDEO GAME DEVS! This is in VIOLATION of the EULA

>>715432426
No
Part of the game
Not the entire game

>>715432454
DESTROY THEM!

>>715432310
It is not. And if it was, it would be a very fun lawsuit waiting to happen.
>If you agree to this Pact, you may install or run one copy of the game software (the "Game") on your device for purposes of playing the Game, whether or not in conjunction with the Game service provided by Us (the "Service").
>You can find the same from Elden Ring EULA.
You can't.

>>715432576
But Ubisoft can. Let's all laugh at Ubisoft.

EULA is retarded in the first place. Why do I need to sign an agreement to play a fucking videogame? I remember just putting a disc inside my PS1 and the game started instantly without asking for me to sign a fucking document. That should be the norm.

>>715432550
No

>>715432660
>nooooooo! That's communist way of thinking!

>>715428295 (OP)
Or else what.

>>715433019
Who are you quoting?

>>715432484
Sir, those are for Sega console

>>715428295 (OP)
>EULA
lul

>>715432174
you're hard to convince, arent you?

>>715432920
>sunset riders
Hell yeah, motherfucker

>>715432920
how is the mega drive version of Wonder Boy?
I only ever played the Master System version and that was cool

>>715431760
Not the same thing retard

EULAs are entrapment. They know full well that you aren't not just going to skip through the text and hit agree. So therefore, you didn't really agree to anything, and the contract is void.
What court? Court of me. Fuck you.

>>715430186
I recognize these 2. Against the storm?

Why are euro companies like this

>>715433519
I'm not gonna lie, I didn't play it yet. I played SMS Wonder Boy 3 though and it was completely different beast than the first one: equipment, swords and shields, backtracking, morphing into a dragon, leveling up. I expect Monster World is more like it. You can also try Aggelos on Steam, it's pretty similiar in execution.

When is this shit company going to die? How can they churn out this many unprofitable, trash games, and still be in existence?

>>715428295 (OP)
Shit like this encourages piracy

>>715433362
Hell yea indeed! It's kinda different from the arcade, SNES version is closer to arcade than MD.

>>715432454
Sell me that Alien Soldier

>>715428295 (OP)
fun fact
in regards to the physical aspect of is, in the EU this is literally illegal to demand
once i bought a product, it is mine, and while i do not own the rights of the software, i own the license to use it, and that is mine
and before anyone calls bullshit, here's the ruling https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2012-07/cp120094en.pdf

Anything that pisses off the left I'll support, considering Im mostly seeing blue hair sjws cry about this I'm inclined to believe it isn't ad bad as it seems

>>715428295 (OP)
EULA is not legally binding, it's just their wet dream.
They can slurp my balls

>>715434381
fair enough. I might check out Aggelos though. seems cool

>>715428927
>but there’s no justice in demanding indie devs work for free
that's not what SKG is for, fuck off Pirate fagware

>>715434629
>Ubisoft getting into even more legal fuckery
you just love to see it

>>715434629
the pic is only referring to the cause of the ruling, being the reselling of license, but the argument in the ruling itself is exactly that the reason why i can resell my used license is exactly cause, once purchased, i own that license and i can do with it as i please and the author of the licensed software cant impose what i do with it(which includes "destroying any copy")

>>715428295 (OP)
I believe, I've seen something similiar in the back of the manual of an old PS1 game by Activision. I'll take a look around my collection but I believe it was Guardian's Crusade.

>>715434749
the best part of this is the implied contraddiction:
the argument in favor of "you don't own the game" is that you only own a license to use the game, and they can revoke that license.
but their own argument for why you should destroy any copy is cause....you own the game, cause if you actually only owned a license they can revoke, revoking it should be enough cause once revoked, you own nothing else.

>>715434581
You know it doesn't work this way. I'm not a reseller, I'm a happy video games enjoyer and I'm happy with my copy.

>>715434682
It's often -75%, maybe even more, I think it's definitely worth the discounted price.

>>715429358
This. It's just a generic template. Phasmophobia got shat on for the exact same thing a few years back at which point one of the devs pretty much confirmed this, while also pointing out other examples like BG3 or Dead by Daylight.
Pic related is Elden Ring's EULA, which I randomly looked up right now, just to name a game people generally tend to suck off and I'm sure that it's present in pretty much any other EULA for any game out there.

>>715428295 (OP)

>>715436305
For that one, it only states that the YOU may terminate by destroying your copy, but it doesn't mean that the company terminating the license also obligates you destroy your copy. And a lot of other examples brought up like BG3 are the same way. Though that Rockstar one does say "upon any termination", it's not as unique to Ubisoft as people are thinking but it's also not as common as people are saying.

>>715428295 (OP)
YOU VILL OWN NOTHNG
YOU VILL NEVER BE HAPPY

>>715436579
We may conclude that Ubi's legal team made an error or there's a translation issues? Maybe it makes more sense in French version of this EULA?

>>715433328
yes, please do not give me any way to talk to you elsewhere or anything

>>715428295 (OP)
...Ubisoft is still alive?

>>715436981
I think putting "any" there is a pretty deliberate thing to do and wouldn't be a mistake. Companies would also not ever want to make a mistake in their legal documents, especially AAA ones.

>>715428927
Too late faggot, we got the siggies so you are now my slave.
I LOVE DEMOCRACY!!

>>715431214
We are "fighting"(filling a form is fighting now) a fight to keep games we hate and none of us plays/wants to play, playable.

>>715439442
well at some point one of those games may be the ones you love and play

>>715439442
If you don't care about those games what's the problem? Why fight on the shitty company's behalf?

>>715428295 (OP)
Why do leftoids worship these corporations?

>>715438931
I'm assuming that Ubi is also incompetent in that field

>>715432148
>Renting is horrible and ruined gaming

>>715439179
>using democracy to vote for communism
You can't be serious right?

>>715439984
nearly every single person in that image is wearing sunglasses

>>715428927
Was gonna say bad bait but clearly...
It is kinda funny how "indie online only" sounds though, like theres a plethora of indie WoW clones or some shit.

>buying ubisoft games
Couldn't be me

>>715439984
Those corporations are the ones that give them jobs because of their condition.

>>715428295 (OP)
Okay but how the fuck do they expect to enforce this? They don't actually expect anyone to do this, right? Why include something totally absurd and unenforceable in a user agreement, aren't you just welcoming scrutiny and legal blowback?

This is why I signed SKG.

>>715439984
I dunno, why do conservitards refuse to tax them more than the average citizen?

>>715440325
Yep, me neither
I mean, they gave Watch_Dogs, Watch_Dogs 2 and Assassin's Creed 4 for free, currently you can play Ubi games if you have PS+ extra and the games are dirt cheap from second hand market (I bought Far Cry 4 for $6 for PS4) so technically I play their games but I'm not paying for them.

>>715440516
It's there to equate physical and digital games. It's so they can point at it and say that they are the same thing, so please don't force us to let people keep what they bought.

>>715440124
I have never been more serious in my life.

>>715429189
Socialism is the Aryan's economy. Capitalism is jewry.

>I buy a game
>it isn't even some online service multiplayer game
>it's simply a single player game
>the game's EULA is updated and they refuse to let you play the game unless you accept the new terms
This kind of shit shouldn't even be legal. I purchased the game under the old terms. That was the deal I paid for. The new deal is not what I paid for.

I bet American courts would argue that I hadn't even purchased the game in the first place. But European courts actually argue that I purchased a copy of the game.
So WHY are they allowed to just change the EULA after my purchase?

Imagine if I did that as a car salesman or something.
>sell car under a conventional contract
>then one week later I change the deal to say "No you aren't actually allowed to have wheels on the car."
Even if it'd make the car fucking useless. It would never fly. But in the world of software shit like this happens all the time.

>>715428756
>Games are not physical products you can "own".
most zoomer thing I've ever heard of 4chan, congratulations on this bait

>>715440918
>>I buy a game
There's your problem.

>>715440231
Ok

>>715428295 (OP)
amerianimals will support this

>>715437058
@pastiscount on the cord
whatever...

>>715432550

>>715428295 (OP)
theres no way this is real

>>715437609
It's a weekend at Bernie's situation now.

>>715444190
It is, its been circulating around since people found it. Many other companies have it too. But no one reads the agreement they "sign" when they rent a game.

>>715428360
>food analogy post
But you literally keep the eaten big mac inside of you for months or even years!!!

>>715428360
https://www.indiedb.com/games/cubelands
Read the newest comment. Stuff like that is why Ubisoft wants you to delete the files. They don't want players to revive the game on their own.

>>715440604
because only retards think more taxes is a solution to anything
>i voted to tax the rich
>why is everything more expensive?

>>715445120
So you suggest forcefully taking away assets from the richest 1% and distributing them to the rest of the population?

>>715445243
thats called taxes except i dont get any of that money

>NOOOOOOOOOOOO WE CAN'T ALLOW THE GOY... I MEAN CUSTOMER TO KEEP THEIR GAMES. THEY NEED TO BUY AND PLAY THE NEW ONE INSTEAD
how about making good games, then?
if you made good games then I wouldn't be playing so many old games

>>715444990
>Cubelands
This game freaked me out as a kid. The default skin has a 10,000 yard stare, like it knows what you did and is afraid of you. Also why the fuck did it take over 10 years for someone to get it working again?

I feel like that sort of stuff is in, especially for games obtained digitally, so that if they feel the need to really make sure that the game is gone from people's computers they could push an 'update' that involves deleting all the files like as if the user uninstalled the game, and then point at the agreement if complaints about it go their way.

Currently (for Steam at least, if a similar agreement exists) the onus is on the user themselves to do so, but isn't enforced in that if a game is made no longer available to be purchased or downloaded, people who still have it downloaded/installed can still play it

>>715445556
https://www.gamesradar.com/games/publishers-are-absolutely-terrified-preserved-video-games-would-be-used-for-recreational-purposes-so-the-us-copyright-office-has-struck-down-a-major-effort-for-game-preservation/

>>715428360
In your food analogy terms, it's like that box had an unlimited supply of Big Mac's in it but one day the company who sold it locked you from opening it and threw away the key.
The Box still has big Macs inside it, but you just need the key to access it, and the company would rather you destroy that box than open it for yourself with a lockpick.

@715428927
And then you retards wonder why the quality of posts has declined so bad
Because you retards keep replying to awful bait like this

>>715445367
>thats called taxes
No, it's wealth redistribution. Nobody is taxing your existing assets.

Good. Based Ubisoft. Keeping it strictly business on both ends. I can respect that. What a shame it is they only want to push propaganda or they would actually be worth supporting. Putting niggers or asians in your game puts you on my "never ever list".

>>715445956
pretty sure taxes are wealth redistribution too, just repeated forever

>>715428360
There are tons of people who bought a game and threw out the box...

>>715428927
Thanks, chatGPT.

since burgers need food-adjacent analogues

Imagine you buy a knife, you use the knife to make your food
Occasionally it gets dull and the parent company helpfully sends sends you sharpeners when it happens
Now one day the company says they're stopping the sharpener process, but you kinda like that knife, so naturally, you're going to try and sharpen it with another sharpener, or maybe something DIY, this is logical to anyone

However instead the company argues that the knife service has been terminated when they stopped selling sharpeners and not only should you not be allowed to sharpen the knife yourself, you should immediately have it melted down

that's what's happening here

>>715428384
o kurwa ale fajny bóbr

>>715445956
>Nobody is taxing your existing assets.
you are retarded

>>715445120
>>why is everything more expensive?
tbf that same principle was applied with Reaganomics (with idea that reduced taxes on the wealthy would "trickle down" and make everyone wealthier, trickle down economics it's called) and all it did was make the wealthy wealthier and they still somehow manage to owe 0$ in taxes. The wealthy need to be reined in through stricter enforcement.

>>715428927
When SKG finally becomes law and the cops bust down the doors of Ubisoft and the like those CEO's will wish they had kept running The Crew. You will to US now, inshallah.

>>715446552
Interesting theory, however I am wealthy and I just paid a dozen expensive researchers to say you're wrong, and a dozen expensive lawyers to make sure you never say anything again. What now?

>>715428927
When I nail you to a cross it's not me killing you but exposure to the elements and the buzzards picking at your flesh.

>>715428384
Also fuck Ubisoft.

>>715428756
Based

>>715446719

>>715445760
the box only outputs bigmacs for as long as it functions, and it only functions until they have a new bigmac. it would be retarded for the first box to output bigmacs once there's a new box that does bigmacs.

>>715428756
I'm looking forward to seeing Ubisoft pull this line in court when they're getting rammed by SKG. Knowing how retarded our court system can be I'm like 40% sure it might work.

Download and backup copies of old games. It is your duty as a gamer and member of GANGWEED

>>715428858
>he posts licenses to operate games that will lose durability on a daily basis until they break someday

>>715429731
that line has always been dumb because stealing isn't just a physical theft in the entire human history, it's like you're all born yesterday in the teet of tiktok

>>715446537
Please tell me which country you live in where the stocks you own, your savings and your personal property are being passively taken away from you.

Reminder that if SKG gets struck down then every single video game company will work towards adding killswitches to their new games so that the goycattle (that's you) won't be able to keep playing their old games and instead be forced to buy new ones every year.

>>715428384
that thing is a walking treasure trove of bacteria and diseases. i understand the reaction

>>715428384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RDowSGuyyM&t=611s

>>715447337
You can repair chips.
You can even take the chip that holds the ROM and solder it to a brand new PCB if you need to.

PCBWay sells pic related for Gameboy carts.

>>715447610
There's at least 100-200 exceptionally good or really good games that already exist that are DRM-free. That's enough games for your whole life. Not a single new game needs to ever be released, so nothing of value will be lost if new games are all "live service" games.

>>715428295 (OP)
one of the small benefits of the internet is that it's marginally harder for big companies to say "uh actually you need to give the house back, we have lawyers" because they used to get people all the time with scary yet easily googleable lies

>>715440064
Sure, but Jewbisoft's the one that said "Get used to not owning your games". It's definitely not a mistake.

>>715428295 (OP)
Damn
I was right to never buy Ubishit again
>>715428360
Then don't make me pay for it like I own ir

>>715447610
Laughs in fan games and ROM hacks that are better than whatever live service shit AAA studios are putting out now.

>>715428927
Who said to force them to mainatin it? Release the damn server tools and that's it. Or allow for local play. Or even single player play

>>715448249
>Will never release
>Brain-fucked zoomers unironically mad at neutral non-pointed quotations of slurs ensure it will extra never release

>>715428295 (OP)
>giving ubisoft money
>for any reason
>ever
You have only yourself to blame.

>>715428360
It does.
When the official servers for PSO went down, private server efforts immediately kicked off because all of the game data was right there to work with from the start.

>>715447174
If that's true then explain how toasters toast toast.

>>715447473
Not him but inflation passively takes away wealth from everyone. Inflation is caused by the government printing money.

>>715448339
You don't even really have to do that. Just release the game without DRM and allow P2P networking for all multiplayer functions.

>>715447473
My property taxes for the house I own are $600 per year.
If I don't pay that, the government will take it away from me.

>>715447174
no it wouldn't be retarded for there to be more big macs. if this were literally any other product they wouldn't even attempt this shit, imagine a company demanding the right to repo your fridge the day that there's a new one without any kind of reimbursement or new fridge. Or, conversely because I know some pedantic contrarian is gonna say this, any software product. Apple gets away with it fucking somehow because they don't state it outright but if Microsoft had said "we're coming out with '98 soon so everyone is legally obligated to delete '95, no we will not be providing '98 for free you have to destroy your own property and then you must buy the new one, we have lawyers" then the outrage would've been so instant and violent that the company would've gone under

>>715448758
>>715448962
We were originally talking about the only solution to avoid one group of people from being richer than the rest being forcefully taking away the assets and property from the richest 10% and redistributing it to the 90%. Since taxes are, according to one anon, not a solution and would just result in stuff being more expensive for the majority of people.
If taxes are not a solution to wealth disparity, then the only solution is to take a percentage of people's excess wealth by force so that everyone is at least within 20% of each other when it comes to total net worth at the end of the year.

>>715430731
>>715432454
I would kill for a decent Genesis/MD collection. Most aesthetically pleasing package ever, made in an era of the coolest fantasy art ever.

>>715428360
>Digital code magically disappears when executed, now buy our new slop!
Nigger nigger nigger.

>>715449184
the box was never going to output bigmacs forever

>>715428360
ET servers still exists
pso servers still exists
swg server still exists
warhammer server still exists
go kill yourself

>>715448016
Based take. I see people crying about the death of gaming every time a new microtransaction circus gets announced, but we've already got a backlog of god-tier stuff that most people will never finish in their lifetime. Between GOG, ROM backups, fan translations, and PC modding scenes, you can comfortably ignore the entire "modern gaming" hellscape and still be living better than 90% of gamers were 20 years ago. Just emulate, mod, and move on.

>>715428295 (OP)
If Ubisoft terminate the EULA than I don't have to do anything it says.

>eula this eula that
no one reads the eula
its not a contract fuck sake

>>715428360
Thanks for the input, Dobson

>>715454516
well my instagram shit is full of saved reels about different foods i want to make
so theres food on my phone

>>715428295 (OP)
So the all the games that have some sorts of liveservice shops too?

That would include all new Ass Red games.Watchdogs.fenyx rising and more.

I say fuck you Ubishit. You will not come after my Fenyx rising and Watch dogs games!! If you enter my home then you will be met with a bullet and then a cock inside that hole on the skull.

>>715447915
CLEAN IT UP JANNY

>>715428295 (OP)
Is this even legally enforceable?

EULAs are adhesion contracts. They essentially are a prewritten one where you cannot disagree to one provision, you either agree to all or disagree to all.

I am a lawyer. Not an EU or US lawyer sure, but I know that adhesion contracts are frowned upon by courts REGARDLESS of jurisdiction.

In essence, most of these are terms you would never agree to if you knew about it, and even if you know about it, they're usually not reasonable and a blatant example of a big corporation using its power over singular small consumers.

They are essentially unenforceable, and even void. So EULA terms like this don't mean shit. It's all just attempts to get away with one-upping over consumers. Most contracts have separability clauses, one void clause doesn't affect the whole contract. Hence, inserting shit like this is a typical legal tactic. Lawyers love making blatantly oppressive terms and conditions because they know the only effect is at most making that specific term void. Trust me, I know.

They are not afraid of anti consumer lawsuits because they can buy lawyers. That's it.