Thread 715430136

>cinema
>film experts led by the likes of Martin Scorsese spend thousands of hours researching the original work, interviewing surviving production members, excavating old forgotten film reels from ancient archives, with the main purpose of bringing the true original vision back to life
>converts all their research into additional content like documentaries, commentary tracks, behind the scenes footage, interviews etc. all included as additional content
>costs $14
>audience is smart enough to intelligently critique any small addition or color grading that might not have been intended by the director and still consult the original work when warranted

>video games
>anonymous suit working at Activision tells some Indian sweatshop they have 8 months to recreate the game in Unity, with the main purpose of making the stock holders happy
>none of the original creators are ever consulted, because the audience just knows it as an "Activision game"
>final product barely resembles the original game
>costs $79.99 and you lose access to the game after 2 years
>audience eats it all up because it's easier to masturbate to the female characters, and will instruct new players to just play the remaster instead of the original title

this is why nobody takes you guys seriously

nobody takes movies seriously anymore either

the problem is there's no auteurship outside of tiny indie games, so this sort of care will never happen because it isn't profitable enough

>>715430497
This happened in the early stages of the film industry as well. Everybody knows about King Kong but nobody will be able to tell you who directed it.

>>715430583
>Everybody knows about King Kong but nobody will be able to tell you who directed it.
Wikipedia says Merian C. Cooper and Ernest B. Schoedsack

>>715430136 (OP)
Videogames are a mass consumption passtime, not a real artform.
It's unfair to compare bpth.

>>715431169
it's probably the most iconic movie of all time and you still had to look it up. i dont know exactly when the auteur director started showing up, maybe the 40s with orson welles but that might be a hind sight thing. it was definitely a staple by the 50s.

>>715430136 (OP)
There's about a billion schlocky garbage remakes/reboots/remasters of movies that some studio shit out to turn a quick buck, but you're cherry-picking.

>>715431820
Video games are deeper than movies and books because they have to account for greater audience interaction because the player facilitates the story. In theory they can be far more complex. It will take a generation defining genius to appreciate the extent of this and use it to make a truly deep video game that isn't just a visual novel or movie game. It took decades before cinema was respected as an artistic medium

>>715432035
I "had" to look it up because I'm not a cinemaphile, hell I haven't seen a single Kong movie. Also I'd argue Star Wars is the most iconic, and everyone knows George Lucas is the director

>>715433180
>Also I'd argue Star Wars is the most iconic
Sure, you're not wrong but you're thinking of Star Wars as a franchise, not a singular movie. it was also made almost 50 years later

>>715430136 (OP)
Nobody takes movies seriously anymore retard

Show me one movie that doesnt use endless irony nowadays

The Taxi Driver bluray was incredible. It kept all the grain and the dirty look while looking pretty damn clear for an old movie

>>715430583
>This happened in the early stages of the film industry as well
True. Never forget how the majority of early films are gone forever because no one cared enough about them to preserve them. Cinema peaked in the 70s and 90s, and has been complete irredeemable dogshit since the 2000s.

>>715432035
Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton could be considered earlier, household name examples.

>>715430136 (OP)
movies weren't taken seriously in the first place. it only started like sometime in the 50s. The US didnt even identify it as an artform until the supreme court changed their original 20s decision in like 56.

>>715433651
>Cinema peaked in the 70s and 90s

>>715430136 (OP)
this is cherry picking. both form of media have slop and both have masterpieces.

>>715433808
Objectively correct, and you're a filthy subhuman if you think otherwise.

>>715433710
you're absolutely right since the directed their own movies. but i'd assume they were known for being the stars of their films, not because they were the visionary behind the camera

>>715433720
>The US didnt even identify it as an artform
Based. Movies are trash.
https://youtu.be/-BHZaSU5ScQ

>>715430136 (OP)
>cinema
>retarded faggot with no personality drives a taxi, fails to get pussy, then goes full retard as a result
>/tv/fags think this trash is deep, spending decades anal yzing it
Video games are better because it isn't pretentious acting like such nonsense is worth documenting.

>>715433452
Zone of Interest

>>715433651
*2010s

>>715430136 (OP)
nobody takes your hollyjew slop seriously retarded mutt

>>715433954
Never heard of it. Has anyone heard of it past a few autismos?

>>715434020
*2000s

>>715434035
It won best foreign film

>>715430136 (OP)
You are making an apple to oranges comparisons.

With films the original medium is not suitable for (most) home setups, so scanning the film and encoding it (which is a lossy process) is unavoidable. Newer scans/releases can be a better approximation of the original (or not).

With videogames the original medium is whatever was sold to home users to begin with, so if you want a version that matches the authors' vision as closely as possible—congratulations, you already have it! Any further re-release can improve the graphics and add more content, so you should rather compare it to something like the Star Wars special editions.

>>715433452
There's dozens of them released every year, you just have to look outside of *llywood. This is the first mainstream one that popped into my head: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8613070

>>715433954
>>715434035
>>715434119
>In 1943, the commandant of Auschwitz, Rudolf Höss
Stopped reading right there. Imagine watching Holocaust movies in fucking 2025. How repulsively pathetic. Holocaust belief is a severe moral failing, and makes you undeserving of respect as a human being.

>>715433809
>masterpieces
i dont think we've seen any true video game masterpieces yet, at least when compared to other art forms. we've had a bunch of influential game that has taken big steps towards getting there. but video games as an art form is still riddled with retarded writing, awkwardly paced story telling, janky animations, questionable game design. there's still a huge disconnect between the story telling parts and the gameplay parts for example, and they're filled with superfluous content. i could confidently say there are flawless movies. we've been making them for far longer, for thousands of years if you include theater, and they're smaller in scope making it easier to control every variable. but there are no flawless video games, due to how new they are and how much more complex they are to make. i think when we start seeing the true gaming masterpieces, whenever that may be, we're going to look back at the stuff we have today as influential, but in the same vein as the sea of old forgotten silent films that nobody gives a shit about today.

>>715434459
If you don't know who Hoss is you are a fake fan

>>715432035
D.W. Griffith

>>715433907
>retard has a retarded take
hardly saw it coming

>>715430136 (OP)
the only real art video games are mostly solo projects or really small teams with a shared vision

It's just fucking video games. I don't want it to be serious.

>>715430136 (OP)
>>film experts led by the likes of Martin Scorsese spend thousands of hours researching the original work, interviewing surviving production members, excavating old forgotten film reels from ancient archives, with the main purpose of bringing the true original vision back to life
they don't do this anymore, just like video games aren't made by MIT dropouts anymore.
also, why so many film vs video game threads lately, too many high quality threads on /tv/ or something?

>>715433907
>genius has a genius take
hardly saw it coming

the mcu is greater than everything that came before it
you are deluded to say otherwise
endgame is probably the most kino movie ever made, and will remain at the top spot for the next 50 years

>>715435694
call of duty is greater than everything that came before it
you are deluded to say otherwise
original mw2 is probably the most kino game ever made, and will remain at the top spot for the next 50 years

>>715435790
eh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK6bhW18T6I

>>715430136 (OP)
Movies are money laundering so the extravagancy is expected. Video games are a racket to fleece loose cash from the taxpayer cattle so cutting every corner is the best industry practice.

>>715435679
>charls
>genuis
he's a schizo retard. he thinks north korea doesnt exist

>>715436035
movies were largely just propaganda, but then video games got too popular and caught the same fate.

>>715436269
>he thinks north korea doesnt exist
Based. Space isn't real either.

>>715433651
>Never forget how the majority of early films are gone forever because no one cared enough about them to preserve them.
Doesn't help that they were extremely flammable and most of the vaults were in one of the hottest states with heat that's prone to cause random fires.

>>715433914
and there's not a single video game character with the same depth as travis bickle

>>715430136 (OP)
>Implying modern cinema is anything but goyslop nowadays
Lol
Lmao even

>>715437594
Even the antagonist of the latest pokemon (franchise for 6 year olds btw) has more depth

>>715437594
travis touchdown

>>715437594
tommy pickle

>>715432035
True but we’re almost in the 2030’s, you won’t know the directors of old movies. That’s 80 years ago. People would probably know directors of big movies that are more recently like James Cameron, Spielberg, Alfred Hitchcock is probably the oldest famous director people know, Ridley Scott, maybe Peter Jackson, Tim Burton, Tarantino & Lynch

>>715438494
we know the name of old painters, we know the name of old writers. the director of a movie being the auteur didn't become a thing until mcuh later, and up till then movies were mostly seen as products from Warner Bros or MGM, much like we see games as products from companies today.