I'm 23. I've never played WoW in my life.
Should I go with Turtle or wait for Epoch?

do not play turtle if you have never played wow before

do not play wow if you have never played wow before

do not

>>715438473 (OP)
Might as well wait for Epoch.
Turtle is great but it has such an old client it feels like shit compared to Epoch.

Probably epoch. I expect I'll end up liking turtle more, but epoch is the more blizzlike of the two so I feel better recommending that for a first timer.
Don't play classic WoW. The "people" playing it ruined it with boosts

>private servers: tranime pedo admins and people straight up buying levels and gear for money
>official servers: no admins to speak of, bots dominate the economy, people buying tokens to buy gear
just let it die

do

You might as well wait for epoch given how close it is now

>>715438689
>People straight up buying levels and gear for money
No that's retail. People actually get banned for that on private servers

>>715438473 (OP)
>I've never played WoW in my life
Ideally you'd keep it that way

>>715438863
>People actually get banned for that on private servers
lol, also lmao and even a roflcopter

/v/ I'm looking to get addicted to illicit drugs. Should I smoke this crack a guy gave me for free or save up for real coke?

>>715438689
we have never played on a private server and we still complain about them?? why?? for what purpose?

>>715438990
definitely crack, I do both and I prefer crack

>>715438990
Save up for real coke, you'll spend less in the long run and have a better time for it

>>715438995

Turtle's great but I wouldn't really recommend a custom content server to a new player.

Unfortunately there's no good true vanilla private servers right now and WoW classic is really not in a good place unless you're into Hardcore (permadeath) mode.

The only decent option I can recommend you is Warmane (it's blizz-like WoTLK with like 5000+ thousand players on at all times at day. Maybe if you get used to that you can go back and play Epoch or Turtle.

>>715438473 (OP)
>Turtle
Established with good population; closer to vanilla like difficulty; client is ass; progressed but still with a lot of levelers.
>Epoch
New server with optimistic future, still a risk; higher difficulty than vanilla; good client; fresh.
Turtle is a less risky option and maybe essier for new players. But Epoch will have the fresh experience.

>>715439141
What's the problem here? It's a GM fucking around with people. A normal player cannot obtain these things.
Blizzard GMs used to troll people by showing up riding raptors ontop of flying sharks.

>>715439141
wafu

>>715439204
raptors and sharks exist in the WoW universe. Tranime does not

>>715438689
>people straight up buying levels and gear for money
That's literally classic tho

>>715438473 (OP)
>Turtle or wait for Epoch
Try both, Turtle is modified but improved vanilla WoW, don't let retards tell you otherwise
Vanilla WoW was an unbalanced mess, it had charm but in the current age of information it does not hold up against the tide of minmaxxing subhumans
TurtleWoW does a good job at rebalancing the game so that it's not as ridiculously unbalanced as vanilla and that's a sorely needed change, it also fixes a lot of experience droughts that vanilla had by adding custom zones and additional quests

>>715438473 (OP)
don't play WoW you fucking retard

>>715439267
A GM's fucking custom morph doesn't exist in the WoW universe either you retarded faggot.

The GMs don't run around looking like that. They don't even run around on their GM accounts or identifiers. It's a fucking easter egg that the guy who took the screepcap literally asked for the GM to transform into the morph, like how GMs used to tell jokes or do silly appearance morphs if you asked for it.

>>715439204
It's a nothing burger posted by people who have never played on turtle but complain about it anyway
The people it scares away would shit up the server anyway

>>715438473 (OP)
Until Epoch launches no one can give you an honest answer.

>>715439431
yes I'm sure the tranime character model was specifically imported into the server because some random fuckwit asked for it and not because the admin is a troon

>>715439141
>"tranny"
>kud wafter
Kys newfag

Just play retail. It's the perfected version of the game and the next patch is coming out soon! It's going to be amazing, we're going to take on a void lord! I sure think it's worth it.

>>715439503
If you hate anime so much that if effects your decision to not play on Turtle WoW, then evidently you must hate anime enough to not want to post on 4chan you stupid nigger.

You're screeching at a gamemaster easter egg.

>>715438947
Not him but they do
Private servers are incentivized to crackdown on gold selling and RMT services because their players don't pay a sub
If they let the problem grow, normal players will quickly move to another server that does a better job at that
Most humans don't want to waste their time playing when some joyless faggot 3rd worlder will just spend his few pennies on buying BiS gear
These things still exist but they're not nearly as bad as in official "classic" and many private servers

>>715438473 (OP)
epoch seems to be going a bit further with new crafting additions

>>715439590
I'm not screeching, I'm informing unaware anons to stay away from pedophilic spaces. I don't like anime in WoW any more than I'd like it in LOTR or any other setting where it's out of place

all i want is a server dedicated to Wpvp and BG pvp
fuck arenas
Why do people even like wow raiding it's the most mind numbingly boring shit, it a fucking job you pay to do

>>715439662
Get cancer

>>715438473 (OP)
Wait for Epoch.

>>715439559
That's not WoW

>>715439691
talk about hitting a nerve, and just because I criticized trannyism and pedophilia

>>715439590
>if you don't want anime in world of warcraft where it doesn't fucking belong, it means you hate anime
It doesn't belong. It looks ridiculously out of place. Stop defending tranny activities.

>>715438473 (OP)
Don't.
I wasted several years on that garbage when I could have been playing so many other better games.

>>715439684
It's one of the worst PvP games to ever exist
Battlegrounds are fun I will admit, but only for a few weeks. World "PvP" is simply degenerate griefing.

>>715439590

no blood elf no play

>>715439662
There won't be anime in your WoW from playing on Turtle WoW. The GMs don't run around looking like that you dumb faggot. It's a silly model that was put in the game files as an easter egg. A GM hasn't even been spotted looking like that since like, 2019 or whenever the fuck that screenshot was taken.

>>715439267
>>715439503
GMs are non canon to WoW. they can be anything they want to be. Only in FFXIV are GMs canon, they're like otherworld jailers.

>>715439590
Based
Anime-hating mystery meat niggers are not welcome here

>>715439662
>I'm informing unaware anons to stay away from pedophilic spaces
>posted on 4channel.net/r/v

>>715439803
False equivalency because you literally will never, once, ever come across an anime model in Turtle WoW.

>>715438527
don't listen to him
he's trying to keep all the good stuff to himself

>>715439901
troons on 4chan are rightfully bullied, they should stay in their boards like /lgbt/, /soc/, /mu/ and /g/

>>715439756
look all MMOs that say "this will be a pvp mmo" end up being who can make the biggest zerg fest guild and own all the land so no one but the people in this guild can do anything
Wow at least lets a 1-3 people go out and find 1-3 people and kill them or even go into citys and pick off people
i don't like ganking
i try to avoid it
the only times i gank is to bait level 60s so i can fight them
no other mmo has pvp that at least lets a small group of players have some fun
Arenas are just win traiding
or just losing 10 games in a row to but pvp gear for pve

>>715439482
wow players in 2025 have no place to judge literally anyone
you are the lowest of the low
you couldn't escape blizzard after 20 years

>>715440089
>you couldn't escape blizzard after 20 years
There's literally no current MMO that can beat it. Retarded point.

>>715439741
You're right. Anime doesn't belong in WoW.
There's no anime in Turtle WoW.
You won't run into a random zone and find anime models in a cave. You won't run into a dungeon and find an anime boss.

It's a fucking GM gag/GM morph. GMs aren't players. GMs aren't going to be running around the world doing quests looking like anime girls. GMs aren't going to be in your dungeon group looking like anime girls. It's the same thing as in pre-2010s when yo asked an official GM to do something funny at the end of your ticket. There hasn't been a screencap or evidence of GMs using that morph in at least 5 years.

>>715440191
As >>715439858 said, GMs are non canon.
The only games you can complain about GMs are FFXI/FFXIV because their GMs are lore canon.

buy an ad maye

>>715440191
>yeah man there's an anime morph that a gm can do
>but there's no anime haha
>what do you mean there's a screenshot of anime in turtlewow
So, are you actually retarded? It doesn't fucking matter if they're not canon. A gm fucking with someone is doing something like teleporting them to an island or turning into a *warcraft* model. Fucking actual brainlet.

>>715440190
>there isn't any other slop to consoom so i'll just stick with the slop i've been eating for 20 years
holy fucking mental midget

>>715440308
what is that retard spamming now?

>>715440248
nobody mentioned canon before you did. They said anime doesn't belong in WoW. They're right. The GMs/devs imported an anime model in WoW. That's fucking stupid.

>>715440370
It literally doesn't matter if they're a fucking attack helicopter with shitting dick nipples. GMs are non canon. They can be any object/RP.

Compared to FFXI/FFXIV where the GMs have actual model and purpose.

>>715440348
>what is a comfort game
I'm going to be coming back to this game until I die of old age. Just like zoomies will be coming back to fortnite and minecraft. It was a critical part of my life in my teenage and early adult life and it's wedged itself into my subconscious.

Hate this stinky city

>>715440450
I'd make the same fucking stink if they were an attack helicopter of a giant purple cock, anon. It is out of place. There is no reason for it to be in the game. Kill yourself.

>>715440450
>They can be any object
yes I know and it would be equally stupid to be a flying iPhone or a Digimon or a Powerpuff girl

>>715440496
How much shit is in Orgrimmar now?

>>715439141
><Still Alive>
It's like they can feel the tick of the clock driving them to the noose

>Enter a thread on /v/
>Less than 10 posts before trannies are mentioned
I wish you all stopped posting.

private server owners are greedier than kotick when he was in charge

>>715438473 (OP)
you should never play that shithouse of a game ever, trust me, there are way better MMO's out there

>>715439286
Why is it so expensive. Do people really pay for this shit.

>>715440496
>Go to Orgymmar
>No orgy in sight
>Get informed I have to go to Goldshire for that when I thought that was the home of the Goblin Banker Empire
>No Goblin in sight there
What the fuck Blizzard?

>>715441126
anon, people pay $300+ for skins. At least things in the pic make you stronger

Turtle leveling experience is great but it is an old server so everybody is fully geared and basically done with the game. I leveled a druid to 60 only to find tier3 players joining my stratholme groups and gold is to get through the AH. I stopped playing a couple days after reaching max level.

Epoch is fresh but we don't know how broken/laggy its going to be. The balance changes look good and they promised new itemization.
If epoch works is going to be a much better experience.

>>715441260
I was in the public stress test the other day, had like 2k people in valley of trials and that crashed it after a few mins. Upon restart, they opened all races to character creation and they had 400-800 in each ones and it was fine. It's not often you'll get that many people in one zone so I'm pretty hopeful everything is smooth
Mobs and quest items have hyperspawns when there's that many people too so there weren't any bottlenecks

>>715441260
I was in the call during the stress test and someone asked about if they had something like layering to help mitigate lag and stuff like that and they said that while they don't have exactly the layering tech that blizzard uses they have worked out something else that'll help with lag, the only "issue" they said is that can introduce very rare situations where things like npcs and stuff fade out and in as people go through zones or something like that if I recall correctly

>>715440191
GM is a tranny grifter who used to run elysium and already got caught selling thunderfury to some boomer rogue

>>715439286
>seventy six dollary-doos for fucking whirlwind axe

Do people really? It's not even that good or even the best option for solo leveling

>>715438580
This

Why did so many people even reply to this faggot? Anyone who unironically uses the word tranime is immediately outing themselves as brown, a zoomer, or both.