I'm not sure it holds up. It doesn't have analog camera, it runs at 240p resolution and average 20fps, there's hitching when you pause the game, saving quitting and resuming doesn't retain your position in the game, most puzzles involve block pushing or just shooting a switch, there's unskippable cutscenes every 30 seconds, the lock on bounces to enemies you dont intend it to, there's knee high fences you cannot vault over, there's inclines the horse refuses to move beyond, you have to play several songs and run back to the temple of time to transform between child and adult forms, rupees are completely worthless and seemingly the only reward you get for exploration, the dialogue options are redundant just forcing you to pick Yes, there's tons of things the game just doesn't explain, there's tons of things the game over explains, the map is useless, a lot of the only sidequests in the game are fetch quests, nonexistent swimming controls, arbitrary limitations between child and adult link items, the teleports between areas leave a lot to be desired, no faster movement mechanic for young link, the challenge is virtually nonexistent, there's a lot of backtracking for 100% completion, Navi gets stuck repeating the same info routinely, many items are just palette swaps or replacements with the same functionality, and there's no world building or character development.

For its time like 30 years ago it must have been really impressive, however these days I can probably give it a 7/10. I would rather play basically any other game, at all, or in this franchise even.

>>715451457 (OP)
use paragraphs next time
just play decomp instead

Grapes are fun.

all those problems and yet its still a masterpiece

>>715451457 (OP)
>ree tech specs
>muh resolution, muh framerate, muh cutscenes
not only is none of this true with an emulator or decomp, but the game holds up amazingly well even on the worst versions.
>there's no world building or character development.
this is a retarded, untrue statement

you sound like a pussy.

>>715451457 (OP)

>>715452356
reading is hard
>>715452474
spam
>>715452486
not quite
>>715452631
greentexted therefore I win
>>715453208
ad hominem
>>715453535
is actually retarded

>>715453208
PUSSY GRABS BACK!

PUSSY GRABS BACK!

PUSSY GRABS BACK!

>>715452356
>actual chatgpt OP
This site is finished.

>>715452356
Gen Z doesn't know what a paragraph is.

OP here, either say something constructive or I will wait until smarter people than you are on here later today.

>>715454246
it’s called “fun” dumbass

>>715451457 (OP)
> For its time like 30 years ago it must have been really impressive, however these days I can probably give it a 7/10. I would rather play basically any other game, at all, or in this franchise even.
You cracked the code. The fact that it’s “only” a 7/10 by today’s standards is how much it set the standard back then.

>>715451457 (OP)
>runs at 240p resolution and average 20fps
not on my pc

>>715451457 (OP)
>there's hitching when you pause the game
Play on original hardware
>there's unskippable cutscenes every 30 seconds
Extreme hyperbole
>there's knee high fences you cannot vault over
Where?
>there's tons of things the game just doesn't explain
Only things that aren't explained or pointed towards somewhere are completely optional. Talk to NPCs
>no faster movement mechanic for young link
Backwalk
>many items are just palette swaps or replacements with the same functionality
Such as?
>and there's no world building or character development.
Yes there is. Talk to NPCs

>>715451457 (OP)
i failed the timed part of the biggoron sword quest so many times

>>715454246
If you want serious discussion you should learn to write better English. Nobody wants to read a 120 word run on sentence of a dozen bullet points smashed together.

it holds up
it doesn't have analog camera runs at 420p resolution and average 20fps. its a great game

Not OP here. Give me the tasty (You) instead of giving it to him. He's brown and doesn't deserve it.

>>715457035

>>715455002
The hitching exists on N64 hardware and in emulation of the rom too. It's not hyperbole, everything you do in the game causes a cutscene, press a switch, door locking, boss fight begins, exiting a crawlspace, everything. The fence I was specifically referencing was in front of hylia lake, you have to use a ladder or the horse. Not true about the lack of explanations of some things. Literally saying glitch the game to move quicker. At that point I need to tell you to play the game, the tunics are color swaps, the bow and slingshot are item bloat they do the same things, but they're hamstrung around the child and adult link inventory divide. There's no character development or world building in this game.

>>715451457 (OP)
>>715457497
>no worldbuilding or character development
There absolutely is, are you retarded? The NPC dialogue and especially the dungeon design is pretty damn potent for a game its size. Half of why OoT was and still is so popular is because its story is so effectively told.

>>715458363
The story of getting three macguffins, a palette swap ocarina, fast forwarded 7 years later, five more macguffins, and ganon waited for you to show up? It's not effectively told, it must be part of your conditioning. The story is practically nonexistent. NPC dialogue in this game are just mentioning something relevant to make progress.

>>715457497
>There's no character development or world building in this game.
>t. speedreader

>>715451457 (OP)
Mod it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNj5gZXZE7I

>>715459860
Ocarina of Time has the same thing Wind Waker had going on. The ole coveted these winds shtck in lieu of development. One note characters saying one thing when you press the action button on them. Sheik reading poetry to you before teaching you a warp song. There's zero development in the entire game. Shit like picrel is particularly egregious.

>>715460480
i know you're being a gay little liar here, but stop it.

>>715458636
If you seriously missed
>Link being an outsider in Kokiri Forest because he lacks a fairy with Saria as his only friend, then gradually coming into his own as he leaves and explores Hyrule only to lose everyone he grew close to because they're all Sages
>The sages' storylines and how they contribute to Link's character development
>Mido's regret and apology in the Lost Woods thinking he's responsible for your death after driving you out of the forest
>The Lost Woods in general, how Link could only navigate it thanks to Saria's guidance, the Skull Kid(s), and Fado's warning that Link will become a Stalfos if he stays too long
>The pretty damn cruel way Ganondorf went about getting the stones, how he caught Link and Zelda conspiring and later tricked Link into opening the Temple of Time for him
>The Forest Temple and how the Poe sisters grieved for one another
>The city guard that sided with Ganondorf who eventually becomes a Poe peddler
>The Fire Temple and the Gorons' history with Volvagia
>The Ice Cavern having no living enemies other than Keese
>The whole Bottom of the Well > Shadow Temple > Bongo Bongo sequence with a shitload of worldbuilding about Hyrule and the Sheikah
>The curse on the Skulltula family and how that relates to Kakariko Village
>The several mentions and implications of a relatively recent war up to and including why Link's mother left him to the Deku Tree in the first place
>The Spirit Temple with the Gerudo's interpretation of Din and insight into Ganondorf's background
>Zelda in general, especially wrt her time spent as Sheik
you're fucking retarded. Simple as. This isn't all of it either, and I'm not even getting into how all this relates to Link's character development. It's very much a classical hero's journey; even though Link never speaks, you can easily intuit where the highs and lows are and how he's feeling just by the context. Just because it's integrated into the gameplay and environment doesn't mean it's not there.

i played it and mm recently. ocarina feels so dead and empty whereas majoras feels very alive.

>>715462076
>The sages' storylines and how they contribute to Link's character development
there is no character to develope when there is no character. link doesnt ever speak nor does he have or show emotions besides surprise.
the game is extremely basic you watching some youtubers headcannon from interpretinf every little thing doesnt make the game more deep, you can do that sort of thing with any piece of media

>>715461850
>the macguffin is an engagement ring see that means we're married
uhh no, that's fucking gay and retarded, your shit's all fucked up

>>715462076
That other anon is right, that's literally all theorized shit that isn't highlighted in the game dialogue with any characters. I get that might be hard for you to realize and accept, but that doesn't make me dumb. Quite the opposite.

>>715451457 (OP)
>it runs at 240p resolution and average 20fps
It's an N64 game

>>715463101
Most of what he listed is state overtly in the game

>>715451457 (OP)
>game made for 1996 hardware runs at 15kz
woooow

Compare these two, the beginnings of the games are night and day. After these cutscenes there's farther damning shit comparatively

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi8bfP1f68A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcrsUTGljco

>>715463458
>a gamecube game released in 2006 looks better than an N64 game released in 1998
Woah...

>>715463385
Do I need to go down the list one by one?
Link coming into his own as he leaves, what does that mean? he got a fairy companion? why is it important, game doesn't say.
Sages storylines? what is that? and how they contribute to Link's nonexistent character? get real.
Mido apologizing is a one off scene, he is never important to the plot or anything. He says Link's responsible for killing Deku Tree, and later says he's sad that Link seemingly died. LINK IS STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM, but because he's not a fucking character it's just left up in the fucking air.
>The Lost Woods in general, how Link could only navigate it thanks to Saria's guidance, the Skull Kid(s), and Fado's warning that Link will become a Stalfos if he stays too long
This is some thick headed shit. In general?? warning of being a stalfos? that is a one off scene during the fucking trading sequence. Skull kid? he says he's friends with Saria and gives you a heart piece if you play the song. Saria's guidance? she acts exactly like Navi when you press C Up, when you play her song. The fucking owl tells you finding her is as easy as listening to the music she is playing. The entire lost woods sequence is a fucking throwback, a homage, of the lost woods from Zelda 1. It's literal nostalgia bait and member berries.
The cruel way Ganon got the macguffins? you mean the mention of placing a boulder in front of dodongo's cavern, a parasite in Deku Tree, and poisoning Jabu Jabu, right? these things demonstrate Ganon's character, but it's not any sort of development.
THE FUCKING FOREST TEMPLE? THE MINIBOSSES OF THE TEMPLE? are you kidding me right now. What in the fuck are you talking about.

should I address the rest of his green text or is it clear he just spouted off a bunch of things without considering it a bit deeper?

>>715463550
>games aging
wow WOW
anyway, compare the two and accept it

>>715462798
>immediately thinks about e-celeb grifters because he didn't notice the story the game beats you over the head with and can't conceptualize anyone else being able to
Yeah, alright, you're retarded. Don't need to tell me twice.
>>715463101
The game tells you most of this directly. The only theoretical stuff is in the environmental stuff, but even then most of it is fairly obvious and things like that are designed for you to see, contextualize, and interpret. Many games function like this.
>>715464090
>coming into his own as he leaves
Rauru is explicitly a mentor character and he befriends several of the other sages (and others, like Malon) and has a pretty clear character arc as he goes through the dungeons.
>Sages storylines
Each sage has a full storyline.
>Mido apologizing is a one off scene
And yet it's still character development, both for Mido and for Link's closure wrt the Kokiri.
>Lost Woods
This is all worldbuilding, retard. Hylians become Stalfos when they get lost in the woods, meaning Link will too. It's an implied end that's expounded upon in TP. Reusing locations in a consistent world still counts as worldbuilding btw.
>The cruel way Ganon got the macguffins?
Poisoning the Deku Tree, putting a parasite in Jabu Jabu, and cutting off the Gorons' food source, actually. It exposits his character and gives you the lead-up for Link's development once he fucks over Zelda's original plan.
>Saria's guidance?
Her song is the guidance, retard. You get to her by listening to her song in the Lost Woods, and you get to the Forest Temple later because you've memorized her directions.
>Forest Temple
Purple poe sister has a crying animation, environment indicates it's their place. It's one of the weaker dungeons wrt worldbuilding, but it still has some.
By the way, silent protagonists aren't inherently non-characters. Link has an obvious arc, especially with the time travelling shit as a kid in an adult's body and what each dungeon represents.

>>715465496
link has no faults to improve. no growth as a person. no worries or fears. he just goes through the adventure like a scarecrow.

>>715465496
Rauru is a complete enigma. At first he's an owl giving you directions. Then he is a fat guy in a trench coat who dressed Link and pierced his ear. Even he lacks any development.
Malon is the closest thing we see to character development and even that isn't done well.
>Each sage has a full storyline.
Each sage is a bumfuck Link met on his adventure and gets promoted to guard duty.
Mido has no development, do you know what that word means? it means we see them change through implicit means. Mido blocks the Deku Tree, then Mido blocks the Lost Woods. He just says he feels bad that Link is dead. HE IS NOT DEAD, are you retarded? There's a clear cut example of dropping the fucking ball.
Lost Woods is not world building, what is it, why is it there, what is the purpose of it. It's just a forest where people get lost and turn into stalfos for no fucking reason.
Ganon puts Gohma in the Deku Tree actually see picrel. Puts parasite in one place, puts parasite in another, he has a very simplistic playbook it would seem? IT EXPOSITS HIS CHARACTER?? development, Retard. Where is it.

You piss me off with how much shit you project into the game, you're arguing based off how you fucking feel about shit rather than what is implicitly in the game. Did you watch the comparison between Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time above? and throughout the game the characters develop and change based on Link's actions. Nothing like that happens in Ocarina of Time. THAT is character development, and not the fucking stagnated cluster of ideas you spit out left and right.

>>715452356
I will patiently wait for recomp

>>715451457 (OP)
it does
but it's basically a puzzle game, something that I not fond of
and, still, it was amazing to really play it for the first time a couple years ago with an emulator

>>715451457 (OP)
>a lot of the only sidequests in the game are fetch quests
Lost all credibility here. "fetch quest" is an mmo term. OoT is not an MMO. i cant even have a discussion with you about games because you are too stupid to know what a fetch quest is.

>>715463101
>>715458636
the story is told through subtext, you apes

>>715454153
We're lucky if they are even literate.