Thread 715468495

Wasn't vr supposed to be the next big step for gaming? What happened?

>>715468495 (OP)
Turns out a majority of people are poorfags.

Walking simulators and tech demos just weren't cutting it.

>>715468583
pretty much. Not only is VR expensive but it also requires a lot of free space in your home
chances are if you're a poorfag that can barely afford VR, you probably don't have a lot of free space in your tiny shithole apartment either. that treadmill in OP is a solution but it probably costs thousands of dollars and is very jank too

>>715468767
For me it's racing/flight simulators and cyberpunk 2077 in VR.

>>715468495 (OP)
The answer is that it looks retarded.

>>715468495 (OP)
games arent fun when you are limited by what you can do in real life

>>715468495 (OP)
devs see motion controls and decide to make their entire game about picking shit up in a room

VRchat scared everyone off

Not enough Rez Infinite-like experiences

>>715468495 (OP)
Even if poorfags cared to buy a VR set, they still need an overpriced PC to run the shitty tech demos it currently has.

>>715468495 (OP)
>Dedicated equipment that isn't cheap
>Dedicated VR space where you can set up all your dedicated equipment
>Fuck all to actually play

Turns out it was kinda dumb, but as a funny side not all I have to do is mention VR and I can instantly make three friends mad they have a box of shit wasting away in their closet

>>715468583
i guess i fall into this
i could always afford VR, but not by a large enough margin that i didn't think "i would rather spend this money on something else" because there was never enough there to make it feel worthwhile

>>715468495 (OP)
I wish vr was more accessible
Not that I have any interest in it, I'd just love immersionfags to collectively leave the traditional gaming sphere, so there can be a somewhat sense of return to normalcy

>>715468495 (OP)
>What happened?
Normal people have bad taste, but they generally don't like to act like complete morons.
VR is an inherently silly technology. You have to wave your hands around in the air like an idiot in a poor simulation of reality. It's like playing air guitar or something.

>>715468767
It was the tech demos for me. I was an early VR adopter because I had a ton of space at the time and it was perfect for the max range of the tracking.

That said, 99% of the "games" were standing in one spot playing with toys or just looking around. Most of the actual games were just VR mods of older games that usually made you motion sick.

Penumbra in VR was chill as fuck though.

>>715469016
>>715469434
Don't be so self conscious

What did you guys get from the summer sale?

>>715468495 (OP)
It turns out people don't want to invest thousands on tech that has shit games
>DUUUUUUDE MUH AAAAALYXXXX
That's nice, call me when games like it come out regularly for the system instead of once every half a decade

>>715468495 (OP)
it's perfect for simulators, driving/flying
people into these games already spend thousands on cockpits, wheels/sticks
1k for a headset is totally realistic and adds an incredible feel

>>715468495 (OP)
Because it hasn't obtained its goal and the market base for it isn't large enough to warrant publishers to push for big games for it. Half Life Alyx spawned potential but after a while it died out.

The entire goal of VR is total immersion. People know this, devs know this, everyone knows this. So people either see just the headset and controllers which appears lame or not worth it, or they see all the equipment made for it and then the 10K+ price tag to get all that equipment and nope the fuck out (especially because it's all the most rudimentary forms of immersion, such as pressure pads to simulate feeling).

Until VR involves plugging your brain directly into a program to the point where you can't tell the difference, it isn't going to kick off in any real manner. It is the next giant leap in video game tech (like going from 2D to 3D), but we are far from it.

>>715468495 (OP)
VR is a gimmick

>>715469214
I mean any game community that give trannies easy access to children and other people to groom is always going to scare people off.

>>715468495 (OP)
I think vr should focus less on motion controls and more on being a 3d tv strapped to your head the most fun I've had in vr is modding games to be vr through reshade or other stuff.
>>715469656
Nothing for VR because there's simply nothing to buy. Most stuff that I want is still above 20 bucks and whenever the sales go on I pick up flat games and just mod them to VR because there still is no dedicated VR games than can compete. The game I've been waiting on Into the Radius 2 still hasn't dropped enough in price to justify a purchase.

>>715469987
I'm sure you only play text based games because anything else is just a gimmick.

>>715468495 (OP)
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>>715469379
>VR porn
>3D movies (including flat porn converted to 3D)
>porn games
>exercise games
>actual games
>big screen gaming/movie watching
how is that not enough for 300 bucks, what can you buy with 300 bucks that offers more

>>715468495 (OP)
where's the crouch where's the prone

>>715470237
I think you should lose weight and I think VR can help you with that. I already sit on my ass all day, I don't need another device that lets me sit on my ass all day. The whole point of VR is it gets you moving

>>715470861
cause that all sucks. exercise? give me a break fatso

>>715468495 (OP)
People want to be comfortable when gaming. It's comfortable for humans to be sitting down with a screen and a controller or kboard and mouse. It is not comfortable to have to stand up and wear irritating eye wear.

You get too warm.

>>715470947
What's your most played game on steam?

>>715468495 (OP)
I bought a VR headset to play Alyx and some other shit around that time.

It's a super fun novelty for a while, but quickly the issues start to arise.
I don't want to come home from work and strap a monitor to my face and then move my ass around until it's hot and I have goggle indentations on my face. That alone turned it into more of a weekend activity.
Then the fact that all the games are so shit and similar. There aren't that many interactions that actually feel good in VR so every game has to reuse them endlessly. You either play a shooting game or a melee combat game and either one is going to have glitchy jank you have to put up with and "woooah I opened this box and took the item out of it with my hand" can only be an exciting novelty for so long

>>715470861
>porn
>gimmick
>porn
>who the fuck needs a game to exercise
>not enough of this
>just buy a bigger TV
wowza

>>715470861
>Exercise.
This is what people said about the Wii lol. Turns out that the majority of games didn't require you to be standing all the time. Vr is the same shit but now you need to wear a clunky headset on top.

>>715471142
>>who the fuck needs a game to exercise
People who play sports?

>>715470925
Not him but over the 2years of player VR I actually gained about 8kgs. 2months ago I hit 70kg and fucking hated myself for it so I did a lot of water fasting and I'm back down to 65 now.
I exclusively only play games standing up and a lot of quest sloppa as well. I don't think you burn that much calories waggling around for normal games and a 1hr intense thrill of the fight sessions isn't enough to make a dent.
As usual weight loss is in the kitchen.

>>715471142
How are 3D movies a gimmick? How do you watch Avatar 2-15 at home? I watched 2 in the headset and it was awesome.
>who the fuck needs a game to exercise
Anyone who's bored out of their mind JOGGING and would like to play a fun game for 20 minutes instead. I know weird right
>just buy a bigger TV
Okay you've now spent your 300 bucks and it doesn't have all those other features. I was asking for a better use of 300 bucks not worse

>>715468583
Yes, "VR" can be expensive but at the same time there isn't anything on VR worth dropping the money for.

>>715470925
I'm very thin not frail but 160 5'11 fatties can't VR and you have a time limit even if you're my weight where it'll cause headaches and vertigo with extended use. I don't know if you've played it for 2 weeks or more every day for over 3 hours but for me it eventually causes a ache behind my dominant eye and I'm forced to reduce playtime to every other day.

VRfags are actually retarded

Whilst we are on the subject Blood and Truth on the PSVR is the best thing I experience playing lots of partly good and half broken stuff on that. You can smoke a vape or cigar in it using the mic it was surreal because I didnt expect it to actually know I was breathing in. That and pull out grenade ring with your teeth before throwing it. Only reason to buy the VR then sell it after.

>>715471252
I play Beat Saber and Synth Riders every morning. Have been doing it for about half a year now and it's more fun than any exercise I've tried without VR. Just never gets old with all the custom songs

headset collecting dust after pavlov devs decided to suck sonys dick. it was fun while it lasted

>>715471081
orion dino beat down

>>715471446
>Beat Saber
That's another one I found good and functional. Id play that again. Some games just make you sick.

>>715471609
The ones where you move with the stick do. The ones where you move IRL don't, and most exercise games are like that. 11 table tennis is another great one, although ping ping isn't a very intense exercise, takes a while to actually start sweating. But it's fun

>>715468495 (OP)
The hell is that gay shit? Some low-friction surface with a support to stop him from falling over to simulate running? But why?

>>715468495 (OP)
seems horrible for your ankles.

>>715468495 (OP)
74% of American adults are overweight. They would get tired from 3 minutes of doing that. VR failed because they forgot that most of their possible audience are fat and out of shape.

>>715468495 (OP)
Apparently people are weak ass fags that get "dizzy" and "motion sickness". Imagine getting sick from moving. People deserve not having nice things.

>>715468495 (OP)
There's no demand, so there are no reasons to compete, hence no reasons to iterate and improve the tech.

>>715471949
The tech has been improving at a crazy rate thought. It's the games that are getting worse

>>715468495 (OP)
The games kinda fucking blow desu, the best shit I've played has been mods for flatscreen games, and I've played all the good shit. Now I just use it to be a fag on vrc with my fren and cuddle to some slipknot

>>715471890
name one gamer with ankles

>>715471923
>getting sick from moving
No you don't get sick from moving, you get sick from the world moving around you when you're standing still. Because you have a function brain that identifies a malfunction in this scenario and tries to purge the poison in the system by making you puke. But I guess not everyone does, some brains just don't give a fuck if the signals they receive are incomprehensible and chug along. Why bother making sense of reality when your IQ is only high enough to think about eating and shitting

>>715468495 (OP)
The only game that interests me is Alyx and I'd have to move my PC to my living room.

>>715468495 (OP)
>What happened?
No games. I have a VR headset, there's one game I play on a somewhat regular basis and that's SuperHot.

in the future pc nerds will be extra fit

>>715472274
>motion sickness is a high IQ thing
jesus christ lmao

Any other "muscular" dudes have problems with VR tracking?

>>715468495 (OP)
there's just something uncanny about a balding fat incel larping as some secret ops operator or some shit

>>715468495 (OP)
this is one of the only gaming products on the market that i fully believe is defended due to cope. it looks so wonky

>>715468495 (OP)
>i'm going to invest this much time/money/effort in to setting this up
>but i won't change my light fixture that's too much work/too hard
society is DOOMED

>>715468495 (OP)
There was a time when I stacked absolutely all my shit against the wall and had a 20x15 ft space to do VR in. Walking in real space does so much, I went to whole different worlds during that week. I have to go back.

>>715472274
I don't get motion sick because what I feel is what my brain expects since it knows I'm playing a video game.

>>715469579
the flailing in the air still stands though
I don't know how you faggots can delude yourself into thinking you're swordfighting in Blade & Sorcery when you have zero weight/impact/feedback on your 'weapon'

>>715468495 (OP)
VR is for theater screenings, and porn

>>715474374
For me I just think of it as playing a video game instead of trying to recreate some real world activity and those problems simply don't exist anymore. Having no weight from a hand motion is no worse than having no weight from a button press as long as the game is fun.

>>715468495 (OP)
Poorfags are still gaming at 1080p on GTX1060s

>>715472274
How are you so sŏy?

>>715469169
Yet we've not seen Alabama 1848 simulator yet

>>715468495 (OP)
Wasn't ritualposting supposed to be a sign OP is a faggot?

It’s fun. The thing just doesn’t have games coming out because deving for it is twice as hard

>>715468495 (OP)
At the end of the day, it's just another way to play games. Definitely hard to go back to flat-screen for fps and simulators though

>>715468495 (OP)
It wasn’t actual virtual reality so it failed

Apart from the massive price, who would lock themselves up with the machine with almost no way seeing your surroundings? If you have a pet or even live with anyone else, it's completely impractical to say the least.

>>715471135
I see it the same as guitar hero, where it's huge in it's niche audience but 10 years later its a piece of plastic collecting dust.

>>715468495 (OP)
AI is the next big step for gaming.
AI was always the next big step for gaming.

>>715470652
How many of those are in top 100 most played games rn?

>>715468495 (OP)
>What happened?
gachaslop and billions of brown people make more money

3D TVs are coming back for revenge

>huge up front investment that requires you to buy the VR gear, probably upgrade your PC if it's weak, and you need a lot of space
>all this to play proof of concept demos and ERP in VR Chat
Yeah I'm good

>>715468495 (OP)
Looks dangerous

I mean it looks like it requires more space than where it's right now

>muh poor
>muh space
>muh third world
>muh gacha
What the fuck are you secondaries coping about? We fucking told you VR was piece of shit gimmick decade or something ago. Keyboard, monitor, mouse combination is 10000000 times more convenient and player input is so much fucking better. You can actually play and immerse yourself in games efficiently. VR literally has wii controllers. WII fucking controllers!!! And you niggers all worship gabe jewell and call yourselves PC gamers. HAH. More like Consoleturd secondaries coping and sneeding. Play a classic game on hard difficulty for once you casuals (Won't happen cuz you can't even type without looking at keyboard)

>>715468495 (OP)
not realistic enough.
until VR gets to a point where its indistinguishable from your own POV, it will never be widely adopted.
if it does get to that point and you can't tell it's VR anymore, there's a good chance its used to condition/pseudo-brainwash people and every company will try to get in on it.

>>715468495 (OP)
it's doing just fine, the tech is developing and it's getting better every year
it will never be mainstream but it doesn't have to be
most people don't have the space for it anyway since we live in a capitalistic hell world

>>715468495 (OP)
modern vr hasn't really progress much beyond the camera is now fixed to your head movement and being slightly more immersive. immersion has a limited amount of appeal when most games don't cost an extra 500 dollars and require you to physically move your head around constantly to move the camera. In addition to that, body movement outside of your arms still hasn't been figured out. There isn't a good way to emulate the torso, and figuring out how to incorporate leg movement is a huge problem and the best solution, sadly is the treadmill in your video.
>>715470861
most vr porn can be watched on a normal screen.