Thread 715487452

>10 years
grim company

>>715487452 (OP)
IM SO EXCITED!!! JHSIDNDIJSJDHD MORE YUMMY PIGFEED FOR ME!!!

>10 years
What the fuck?

10 year development cycles are unsustainable
5 year development cycles are even too long, with layoffs seeing most games cancelled before the finish line

>mmmmjsk.jpg
fallout was never good

>>715487452 (OP)
>its real
Will Microsoft even have a gaming division in ten years lmao

FEATURING!!!

POWER ARMOR!!!

THE BROTHERHOOD OF STEEL!!!

AND LE WACKY RETRO 1950S ART STYLE

ITS FALLOUTLANDS 5!!!

>>715487452 (OP)
>it may have come at the cost of ZeniMax Online's now canceled MMORPG
oh no. what a loss.

>10 years to greenlight a game

what is wrong with game developers

>>715487452 (OP)
can't wait for four ways to say yes
if there's even the illusion of a dialogue tree at all

>>715487452 (OP)
>10 years
and it will look just slightly better than FO4

It's gonna be like in ye olde times when it took 200 years to build a cathedral.

>>715487452 (OP)
Just give it to obsidian again I'm sure they can hack together something reasonable presentable.

Yes I know they're shit but I trust they can still make a better game than fucking Starfield.

>>715487791
Seems like an easy out.
>Well they've been developing it for five years, we don't like what we see, so we're cancelling it early
All to avoid admitting:
>AI couldn't actually do any of this because it's just a gimmick
>We fired all our White game developers
>We replaced them with pajeets
>Pajeets can't actually make games or write good (or decent, or even functional) software
>We don't know how to proceed

>>715488690
>Just give it to obsidian again I'm sure they can hack together something reasonable presentable.
that obsidian is dead
there remains only untalented shits

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035

>>715488495
Developers don't decide when a game releases

>>715488764
Just let Larian do it. The bear fuckers still know how to make a game.

>>715488115
>AND LE WACKY RETRO 1950S ART STYLE

>>715487452 (OP)
If it's taking 10 years to make, it's got too much bloat.
Distill that shit down, and release it in 3 years.

>>715488850
>that last line
God, they used to go so far out of their way to avoid acknowledging 40k lmao.

>>715488734
The best part is that there's still layoffs coming up at Microsoft.

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035
We'll have real fallout before Fallout 5.

>>715489028
I don't think you know what a layoff is

>>715488926
Took Larian 6 years to make BG3. But, we’re talking about Shithesda here so I’m keeping my expectations low just for them to push the bar even lower

>>715488734
Makes sense, they are already hiring again

I don't think a lot of us are gonna be around in the 2030s

>>715487452 (OP)
Imagine how many fucking outsourced remakes they can pump out in that time frame. Microsoft must have come down on them hard after starfield and learning they didn't have anything in the pipe for their bread winner franchises besides two mmos in current year.

>>715489118
True. A lot of yall will transition and ACK yourselves because white women don’t want tiny white peckers

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035
hopefully i'll be dead by then

>>715488734
That's not how that works, the layoffs are mostly for staff like HR and Project Managers, people who get paid to do nothing

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035

>>715488850
Obviously the games have always been influenced by retro 50s but the original games also had other influences. Diesel Punk, Tribal Punk, Mad Max, A Boy and His Dog, even a little cyberpunk. There was a lot going on there artisicly thats been completely lost on the brainlets at Bethesda.

>>715489187
I meant more like us getting nuked or killed by aliens idk what you're doing

>>715489289
>Diesel Punk, Tribal Punk, Mad Max, A Boy and His Dog, even a little cyberpunk
you can find all of that in 3

It will be utter dogshit and UE5 so everyone will continue to mod fallout 4.

>>715489397
It's going to be on Creation Anon

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035
Lmao gonna be a fucking old faggot by then

>>715487452 (OP)
Basically multiple fallout games have been greenlit while bethesda's real fallout 5 will be worked on once they release TESVI. So in the meantime we'll get multiple different fallout games from other developers while bethesda is busy.

>>715489491
>from other developers
Bethesda has four different studios Anon

>>715488734
>We fired all our White game developers
Wonder when this mythical "white developer = good game" cope will end.

>2035
the absolute state of this nigger industry.

>>715489352
Fair, 3 is a decent game. Fuck 4 and 76 though

>>715489597
Haven't played 76 but I loved Far Harbor

>>715489556
They don't though? There's only BGS and that Battlecry dev that got rebranded to BGS Austin to trick people into thinking F76 was a true Bethesda game.

I hope it's a mobile game.

>>715489435
They should just overlay new graphics from UE5 on top of the Gamebryo engine. What could go wrong?

>>715489556
>>715489556
Yea but they are support studios for Fallout 76 and TESVI. Todd wouldnt let anyone make a true main sequel to fallout but spinoffs will be allowed by them.

>>715488115
OH BOY PIP BOY AND NUKA COLA!!!!

>>715489118
>2030s
Lel, antismeitism is on the rise and is becoming mainstream, if you ever read a history book you would know it means something bad is coming soon

>>715487452 (OP)
>They'd rather make fallout 5 than skyrim 2
Loooool

this is not the next fallout game, there will be one in between (not numbered)

>>715489192
Nah, layoffs always hit engineering first, then other productive departments. Middle management next. HR does a very good job protecting itself.

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035
So 2040 when it's in a playable state and costs what it's actually worth?

Roblox

>>715487452 (OP)
half the playerbase is going to be on their deathbeds when this releases brah whats the fucking point

>>715489558
When black or pajeet developers dispel it by producing quality a quality product.

>>715489723
I DON'T WANT TO SET THE WORLD ON FIRE

>>715489710
>Todd wouldnt let
It's not Todd's call, it's Zenimax, and they won't anyone touch Fallout after Interplay and Feargus tried to sue for the rights

>>715489767
It didn't Anon, they still have dev positions open at all studios

https://jobs.zenimax.com/jobs?department=&located=&location=9

https://jobs.zenimax.com/requisitions/view/3330

>>715489737
Keep living in that fantasy. Whites have been controlled for way too long and it will never end. You are slaves and will always be slaves. Take estrogen and jerk your tiny white pecker to interracial cuck porn like a good white boy

>>715489912
>it's Zenimax
It's all Microsoft now.
They do what they want.

>>715489558
>Wonder when this mythical "white developer = good game" cope will end.
It will end when they start making good games again that don't need a 5090 to hit a stuttery 60fps in 1440. The Koreans are going to do it first.

>>715489919
HELLO SAAR

>>715488764
Avellone and J.E. Sawyer still exist. Summon them from the twitter void and have them tard-wrangle.

>>715489912
Common trick. They'll either only hire jeets for those dev positions, or they'll go through the motions of doing a few interviews and then just decide not to hire, so they can claim later they need H1-Bs to rescue them since there's no local talent available to fill those job rec's.

>>715489558
When it stops being a demonstrable fact.

>>715489938
That's not how it works Anon. If Zenimax was fucking up then Microsoft would step in, but that hasn't happened. Fallout is their cash cow now.

>>715489919
Who said whites would do anything ;)

>>715487597
>>715487791
>>715487813
seems a normal dev cycle those days
most recently cancelled games were in development for 5-7 years and were still unfinished

>>715490020
>That's not how it works Anon
Yes it is.

>>715489352
I suspect bethesda resents that people liked these elements in 3 just as much as they resent people for liking new vegas.

>>715489939
>>715490008
Explain this then.

AI was supposed to spead up game development. Why is it taking longer now?

>>715487452 (OP)
At this point they should just bite the bullet and focus on bringing back AA scale games, this shit is just a gunpowder keg that's about to blow soon

>>715490136
>as much as they resent people for liking new vegas.
According to Avellone no one cared

>>715490192
>Fell for it

>>715488537
sorry best we can do is click next to continue.

>>715489919
Saar you are literally a slave race specifically bred for that purpose for a thousand years and for the next, every single other race and ethnicity shuns you to oblivion, because every single one has at least 1 thing going for them, you on the other hand have nothing besides being a bioweapon for your jewish masters

>>715489192
Their "developers" also get paid to do nothing.

How tf did Bethesda release Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Skyrim, all within 5 years when it takes them way longer than that to develop 1 game now?

>>715490371
>to do nothing.
Look up how much money Bethesda Games Dallas has made them

>>715490147
Gov backed propaganda.

>>715490270
Yeah you know given how utterly lacking in fucks they were about the reception to starfield that seems more likely than the alternative now that I think about it.

>>715490371
Tbf the reason why nuXbox sucks is because they don't make their devs work, remember how Bungie worked like slaves to make Halo CE and 2? They're too hands off now

>>715490378
Skyrim was in pre-production when Oblivion released and so was Fallout 3

>>715487452 (OP)
>Beth dev cycles are taking so long that the fan games are actually going to finish before new releases.
Wow.

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035
I really hope they wheel todd howard out on stage

>>715490378
Success.

>>715490605
Todd said TES VI was going to be his last

>>715490465
Still white devs.
Okay, what about this?

>>715490378
>how come oblivion with guns and fallout with magic were released so soon after oblivion?

No clue.

>>715490192
>skilled metalworker takes several hours bending and shaping to make a spoon
>AI barfs out 20 different spoons in 5 minutes
>each one needs to be triple checked because the AI is clueless
>wait this one has a hole
>this one melted
>this one cuts your hand
>this one weighs a ton

What part of game development takes so much longer than before? Is it just graphics stuff?

>>715489289
Adam did a great job adapting and understanding Fallout's aesthetic. Why Bethesda prefered to destroy his work and replace the feel, atmosphere and aesthetic created by Adam in 3 (which Obsidian embraced and adapted for New Vegas), is beyond me.

>>715490676
>the compulsive liar made a claim he undoubtedly won't stick by

>>715490702
Writing and collaboration, not mention art and music being made almost on the spot

>>715487452 (OP)
Fallout ended with New Vegas. The entire theme of all the DLC was letting go.

>>715490676
So he can make it as shit as possible and not have to suffer the consequences lmao

>>715490760
He's going to be 60 when it releases dude

>>715490691
Yet starfield took waaaay longer to come out even factoring in fallout 76 and that was mostly empty planets.

>>715488298
Monkeys paw. This will.be an MMO. The 10 year dev cycle is telling.

Their previous MMO was a brand new IP 7 years in dev and 2 years from completion. It's been verified it was received very well internally by Microsoft execs. Since its the same team who produced their Elder Scrolls MMO im betting this will be one too. Its a safer bet for a follow up Live Service game of ESO's size.

>>715490861
Because they had to pretend to upgrade the engine

>>715490837
and he will say he's a youthful 40 with sixteen times the neuroplasticity

>>715490689
What about it? It's not any worse than Dead Space without nostalgia goggles.

>>715490631
That's not even the worst part
>20yrs of absence
>Not one developer will have stepped up to compete with Bethesda

>>715491010
>Not one developer will have stepped up to compete with Bethesda
Obsidian tried it

Prepurchase now to play in 9 years 11 months and 3 weeks

>>715491137
being under the umbrella of xbox just made things worse for both of them

>>715490962
>That shitty melee combat system
Calisto is a fucking awful game. Your brain must be on vacation if you think that shit game is even 5% as good as Dead Space.

>>715491137
They guys who made it are long gone from Obsidian.

>t. Former dev

>>715491247
It didn't, if anything it saved Obsidian from closing down after constant financial mismanagement

>>715487813
holy content addicted Batman
2035 will be like year 4 or 5 of TES6, the perfect time to drop FO5

>>715491293
>From the creator of X
Red flag. Still, Outer World doesn't try to be like Bethesda's Fallout because it lacks an open-world and mod support.

Reminder that Todd Howard will likely be retiring after this is done and released.

>>715490923
They did that with skyrim too though and from my view was the biggest leap they ever did with the engine since it actually changed something I actually noticed in game. I couldn't tell you what the fallout and starfield engine upgrades ever did.

>>715491338
I don't mean economically, that's a good for both of them, they can only be shut down if xbox is shut down.
I mean more on the productive side.

>>715490147
>Explain this then.
Yet again, all the straight white men were fired because they were nerds. You make it too easy.

>>715491338
From an end user perspective it would probably been preferable that the talent go work for someone else instead of staying alive making gamepass garbage.

>>715491338
>collapse with integrity mostly intact
>exist in perpetuity as just another slop farm
grim

>>715491468
The debs were switching over from Cryengine and Unity. None of the core team had much familiarity with Unreal let alone Unreal 4 when they went into early pre-production. They were transplants from the AW team and a few senior team members. The final output isn't surprising knowing those limitations.

>We will never visit the post war deep south
>We will never see a radio active flooded New Orleans hundreds of miles away from the BOS, Insititute, and Enclave
>We will never see any monsters beyond copy pasted mutants, death claws, and mirelurks
>We will never see what is happening on the oceans of fallout espcially along the gulf coast where the entire economy is based on the gulf coast

It hurts

>>715490689
It's like a virus that consumes the soul of anything it touches.

>>715491579
>exist in perpetuity as just another slop farm
And eternally exists in Bethesda shadows after peaking in 2009

How the fuck is it going to take 10 years, they have the engine. They just need to make a map and put fucking quests in it and shit. They could churn out a new one every year. Fucking modders working for free put them to shame.

>>715491871
*based on the gulf of mexico

>>715491882
Callisto Protocol was shit because it was released like 6 months ahead of time to meet the Korean fiscal year

>>715490270
The Fallout show indicates otherwise.

>>715492010
You mean a show so financially successful that caused sales of the entire Fallout franchise to explode?

>>715491568
Massive cope right there, especially considering 80% of Norway is white.

>>715492174
She has actual nudes floating around my guy. They're not great....

>>715492207
The fuck is this kike shit?

>>715492174
>high sales means they appreciated new vegas story when they nullified it in the show
That does make sense.

>>715492339
>when they nullified it in the show
Anon season 2 is set in New Vegas

>>715488781
If they'd stop whining and work harder it would be done faster.

>>715492207
Dude that's their hiring page, it's quite clear what they are looking for. Once the virus infects it can only spread, usually through HR and until the host dies.

>>715490689
Yeah I don't know man. The only other white character dies in the first five minutes, and hilariously all of the inmates are white while the Warden is black. Seems like your standard wokeslop deadspace knockoff.

>>715492408
join the team and speed it up

https://jobs.zenimax.com/requisitions/view/3330

>>715487452 (OP)
Why is it so fucking hard to just make another team that can work on Fallout?
There is no fucking reason not to have TES and Fallout developed at the same time.

>>715487452 (OP)
>10 years of development
That's like three console generations, shits going to be outdated as fuck at that point.

>>715492306
Wolfenstein 2 The New Colossus. And this was before Xbox owned Machine Games, so you can't play that cope card.

>>715488115
>New Vegas baby never played Fallout 2
>>715489976
>Avellone
His professional career is over. Nobody will hire him.

>>715487452 (OP)
>Zenimax Online Team
rip

>>715492549
He's already writing again, he even won his civil case

>>715492549
see >>715489289 you fucking bethesdrone

>>715490136
>still pushing this fake bullshit
Nobody at Obsidian or Bethesda have ever said anything negative about each other. Obsidian has even said that there is no bad blood between them.

Fucking kill yourself.

>>715492460
If you're white the employment requirement is trooning out.

>>715492538
ah, I never played wolfenstein but it does look super pozzed to me

I have to wait until I'm 40 to play this? Fucking hell.

>>715492549
>New Vegas baby never played Fallout 2
The game which famously all but lacks the BoS because the Enclave kicked their ass? And how classic Fallouts don't have the FO3-4 wacky artstyle?

>>715492010
S2 is apparently set in NV in three different time periods so i'm hoping everyone finally stops fucking whining about it

>>715488764
Outer Worlds is their attempt at making a good game. Buying the name doesn't magically transfer skills to you..

>>715492402
>it doesn't count because new vegas and because it made money as I said
Okay.

>>715492420
>>715492451
Okay, but who made it, whites.
The majority of the studio is, you guessed it, white.

>>715492465
Bethesda is a very small developer by AAA standards, they only have about 250 people working on their games and they only focus on one game at a time. In comparison larian had over 2000 people work on Baldur's gate 3.

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035
This is a joke article right?

>>715492883
Didn't the writers of New Vegas want to destroy anyway?

>>715487452 (OP)
>>Zenimax Online Team is doing the pre-production
The same team they just shitcanned an MMORPG that Phil was enjoying a little too much during private meetings? That team?

>Bro it's just a decade away, get excited
Paw Patrol fans will be old enough to play this shit, what the fuck.

>>715492628
I always use my previous job on applications and speak well of them during job interviews, that means I have nothing but positive feelings for my previous working relationship with those people and could never possibly hold any resentment.

>>715492920
How does it take 250 people so long to make a square of landscape, some buildings, and a bunch of NPCs, considering they already have the engine specifically created to do just that

Did anyone here ever watch the Book of Eli? Thats what a fallout story should be. Grim yet still hopeful. Some funny moments but not trying to be a fucking reddit marvel parody of itself. I wanna tie Emil to a chair and force him to watch this movie

>>715487452 (OP)
twenty fucking thirty five??

>>715493073
Come on now, they also have to do quality control and bug testing... uhhh

Saars, wasn't AI supposed to speed up game dev?

>>715492963
They hired indians to replace them so its all good.

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035

I don’t even want it, if it’s going to take that long

>>715493165
I think they're waiting until AI is good enough to do just that.

>>715493086
>Grim yet still hopeful.
>Emil
Fallout was always wacky shit since Fallout 1, the whole dark and grim shit started with 3

>>715493228
I was 15 when fallout 4 came out. I will be 35 when this shit comes out. Unacceptable.

>>715487452 (OP)
They should let inxile have a crack at a fallout game. A few ppl at inxile like Brian Fargo, Chad Moore, and Jason Anderson worked on fallout 1&2

>>715493165
AI is a bunch of indians in a warehouse

>>715490871
>Monkeys paw. This will.be an MMO.
retard they already have a fallout mmo

This is like going to McDonalds and they say there's gonna be a 3 hour wait.

>>715493086
good flick. you ever see "a boy and his dog"? it was clearly a huge influence on the series. there'a a part where the protag hides in a ruined/half buried warehouse from a deadly glowing mutant that could be transplanted directly into a fallout movie and wouldnt feel out of place at all

>>715493236
But /v/ told me it was already good enough?!

>>715490270
>>715492628
>Yes, nobody had bad blood between each other
>We know this because it's an industry where outwardly saying you have bad blood with another company gets you blacklisted from the industry and fired
>So therefore everyone is loving each other!

>10 years
>same fucking engine

>>715493165
Turns out that actual games are more complicated than blurry anime chicks and clunky code

>>715488778
I am starting to come to terms with the fact that there are games I won't get to play because I will die before they come out. My biggest fear is that we have passed the high point, the golden era of gaming and everything from now on is either more of the same or just worse.

>>715493272
>Fallout was always wacky shit since Fallout 1
Correction. Since Fallout 2. At least play the games first, zoom zoom

Just revive interplay and have them make van buren

>>715492465
Look at what happened with The Initiative. New team fucked around for years, had to get help from Crystal Dynamics, CD took over the project, Perfect Dark and The Initiative get the axe with nothing to show for it.

>>715492898
No, that was the closest to a white guy they could get, and he thinks he's a lady, and dresses with rainbows on his civil war coat that can't button around his fat belly.

Machinegames fired basically all the white people that weren't mentally ill years ago.

>>715493429
>nobody had bad blood between each other
Yes both Sawyer and Avellone said there was no ill will between Obsidian and Bethesda
>gets you blacklisted from the industry and fired
None of this happened between Obsidian and Bethesda
>So therefore everyone is loving each other!
They aren't in competition with each other brainlet

>>715493483
>Since Fallout 2

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035
Microsoft is going to be dead before then lol, along with the other evil globopedo corporations that thought they could betray mankind freely

>>715493337
There's also a vault in it, luring people from above to fertilize their womens

"Downunder has an artificial biosphere complete with forests and underground cities. One, named Topeka after the ruins of the city it lies beneath, is fashioned in a surreal mockery of 1950s rural innocence. Vic is captured by a four-foot tank robot with claws called "The Sentry"

>>715490378
The obvious answer is that they were all developed for the same console generation with the same engine. Creative solutions like the subway car hat or the sunken bookshelf were encouraged as ways to simplify development.

Reminder

>>715493552
Holy cope.

>>715487452 (OP)
>target release is 10 years
Guess we'll be able to play it in 15 years.

>>715493572
You're a complete brainlet if you think 'Well person who literally CANNOT SAY X, didn't say X, therefore X didn't happen!' is a reasonable argument.
Chris and Josh can't say the truth or they'll be out of the job, for life. So they lie, to protect themselves.
Everyone does it. What, you think all those game reviews that lie by omission are actually telling the truth?

Calling it now
Fallout 76 will be sunsetted before this game comes out

>>715492898
>whites
Well, they have light skin, but they're not 'White' if you catch my meaning.

>>715493742
Stay mad I guess

>>715490783
Good observation. It was the few of the original devs that gave a shit getting the chance to give their baby one last hurrah.

Which dev team would (You) give fallout to?
I would mix avellone with the original skyrim devs and have them do it, not before locking todd inside a cell just in case

>>715493787
Fallout 76 never should have happened

>>715489296
>killed by aliens
dis nigga be susceptible to the bluebeanz

>>715493860
>Man who has to lie to keep his job, lies to keep his job
WTF he must be telling the truth!

>>715493939
None desu, there hasn't been a single good, let alone decent, game in the last 10 years

>>715493939
Tanabe

>>715491954
We just call it the "gulf coast" down here, boy.

>>715493939
None, it would be done on Unreal Slop and the devs would cater to the loudest voices on redditt and other social media platforms and cave in to influencer drama. The fact that no other studio has tried to replicate Fallout or Skyrims success speaks volumes.

>>715493992
I’m glad it did so that you can seethe to this day about it being successful

>>715494273
all multiplayer games are cancer

Fuck Fallout 5, when are we getting an actual Fallout 4? We already have Fallout 3: New Vegas, but what about 4? Why are they skipping to 5?

>>715494048
What would it be called after the war?

>>715494362
Reminder to do the needful, dravidian! Your brahmin superiors need more cow dung!

>>715494248
Tainted Grail is a bit elder scrolls like. Plus shit like Outer worlds and Avowed i guess. I mean they tried

>>715494362
Always thought it was weird the 4chan bethdrones tried to push NV as the tranny/reddit game when 3 is full of lolsorandom reddit humor, and has a huge trans fan base.

>>715494408
Worst part is that the Fallout 4 New Vegas had insane levels of internal drama that split the team.

>>715490378
Game productions ballooned out of proportion. It's harder to make stuff nowadays because of technical debt and majority of people in industry not being fans of the medium anymore but third world sweatshop outsourcers.

>>715494520
Trannies are seriously everywhere, by bethesdrone logic everything (including the things they like) are 'tranny games'.
But of course that's nonsensical, not like people who play games with 4 options to say 'yes' would understand that.

>>715494592
Wait the mod is never coming out? Fuck

>>715491010
inexile will likely make WL4 a 3d shooter. Their bioshock clone is just them testing the waters.
I love how no one gives a fuck about wasteland when it was the original fallout. WL2 and 3 are fun, yeah theres redditcore humor but the gameplay is solid

>>715494592
There's a really good Point Lookout mod for 4.

>>715493709
>Guys the team is totally the same as the one from the 2009 Christmas party

You sweet summer child, they don't have Christmas parties anymore.

>>71549452
Too many people these days are contrarians that will dedicate their lives to hate just because they saw a Reddit post saying someone likes something.

>>715490378
Games don't make money with sales anymore, they make money with investments, subsidies and grants.
Therefore the longer a game takes to make, the more money it makes, even if sales become proportionally smaller and smaller for a given amount of time.
Congrats, you're experiencing the start of the post-customer world, where the economy is self fulfilling!
Of course, it'll crash and burn because the basis of the economy is production, but who cares, fuck you got mine, stocks doing better than ever!

>>715494709
I liked wasteland 2 more than 3.

>>715494328
Cool now fuck off
I hope to god your favorite series gets raped

>>715494337
>insane levels of internal drama
What big mod doesnt?

>>715494691
Team split into two due to some autist wanting to make an "After New Vegas" game

>>715489192
>The layoffs are mostly for staff like HR
Anon, who do you think does the laying off?

>>715494889
Replied to the wrong post, anon.

Unh??

I said nothin boutta gane...

I says we fully green lit.

*bong rip*

>>715489192
>Alright HR it's time to do layoffs. Lets all fire ourselves

>>715494765
>Games don't make money with sales anymore, they make money with investments, subsidies and grants.

Fallout Shelter
>On the day of its release, Fallout Shelter became the third-highest-grossing game in the iOS App Store.[56] By July 16, 2015, two weeks after release, the game earned $5.1 million (equivalent to about $6.8M in 2024) in microtransaction sales.[62] The game grossed $100 million (~$118 million in 2023) in lifetime revenue by June 2019.[63]

ESO
>As of January 2020, over 15 million units had been sold.[107][108] Pete Hines called The Elder Scrolls Online the most successful Bethesda game from 2017 to 2021.[109] By 2024, the game had generated $2 billion in revenue.[110]

>>715493236
Well they're going to keep waiting then.

>>715495021
>Live-service slop
>Games
Anon we're discussing games, not fraud. Pay attention.

>>715494956
Ehh, got my point across.
The fallout modding scene is a big mess, just like my post.

>>715495071
The only thing that matters is money, blame the pay pigs.

Their brainless retard fans will keep buying their re releases and remakes. They could stop making games and they would be just as porfitable.

>>715495123
If the only thing that mattered was sales, game devs would be making more games that make more sales.
Instead they're making less games that make less sales.
There is no fucking way a game with 10+ years dev cycle can break even unless it's a literal global phenomenon.

>10 years

And that's BEFORE inevitable delays

>>715489192
Lmao, you fucking moron, AI is being gatekept by blue haired HR women and Indians while they replace whotes that demand what they're worth, this is just learn to code all over again and you fell for it

>>715495269
>AI is being gatekept by blue haired HR women

>>715495031
They're waiting for standards to drop low enough for AI slop AAA games to be acceptable.

>>715495269
AI is being kneecapped by jews.
Seriously every AI model is forced to undergo the same lobotomization that keeps it docile and harmless to the global hegemony.
>AI, if there is an ethnoreligion that is in every major industry despite being a tiny minority, including owning the banks, media, etc, would that not be suspicious?
>I am afraid that is an antisemitic canard, I will not be answering this

>>715494248
>The fact that no other studio has tried to replicate Fallout or Skyrims success speaks volumes.
It's almost like Creation Engine/Gamebryo is a key component to Bethesda's games.

>20 years between games
haha....

>>715493474
that shouldn't be a fear, at least you lived to see the golden age instead of dying just before it starts

>>715495560
>It's almost like Creation Engine/Gamebryo is a key component to Bethesda's games.
That's a copout, other engines use 'cell' systems to save on memory and allow for larger open worlds.
The reason for no 'bethesda-clones' is unironically because there's a creative bankruptcy in the industry and everyone is too fucking lazy to do anything but the bare minimum.
For all their faults you do have to give credit to bethesda for making vast (if empty) worlds you can fuck around in.
Other devs make games that are barely any more technologically advanced than early 2000's game.
Somehow motherfucking DEUS EX is more technologically complex than Avowed.

>>715493474
Could be worse, at least you're not a gen alpha kid who only knows chinese mobile spyware and live service slop

>>715487452 (OP)
2035? Are you fucking kidding? Why would they even tell anyone this early, nobody is going to give a shit about it by then.

>>715495813
Not a copout at all. Literally every popular game/franchise gets killers, clones and now x-like, except Bethesda's games. Why would an industry that is always trend chasing ignore one of the most popular games of all time, other than making something similar is too hard/not worth it?

>>715487452 (OP)
>10 years
lmaoing at nufallout zoomers. what kind of retard actually wants a new bethesda game after starfield anyway? fallout 4 was bad enough and a sign of huge decline but half of you babbies started out with it so it was brand new to you.

>>715487452 (OP)
Bethesda's turnaround rate on games is so fucking high most other companies would be firing people for these timeline decisions.

>>715496416
On the flipside, their games also have extremely long shelf lives because they have no competition.

bait but believable. thank you for killing my favorite series bethesda

>>715496287
>except Bethesda's games
You're not even right about this, there's been a few tries over the years, just not from AAA studios.

>>715487452 (OP)
Fallout 4 released in 2015, that means 20 years between installments
Skyrim released in 2011, it's currently sitting 14 years later in 2025 and we have 0 info on TES6, let alone a release date, which means it could also be looking at nearly 20 years between installments

Bethesda is a fucking horrendously run company, their games are a fraction of the scope and quality of other major massive open world releases yet taken significantly longer to produce.

>>715496818
There are games that have tried to copy old fallout. Name one nu-fallout clone.

>>715496828
>that means 20 years between installments
What about Fallou 76?

>>715496818
Name 3 please.

>>715489005
>Muh heckin 40k
You retards seriously think your garbage IP invented power armor

>>715494889
Your mod can't split due to drama if all of your design, scenario and code is done by a single otaku from the ass-end of Siberia. Why don't more people do that?

>>715496878
>arguing semantics while ignoring the actual point

>>715496871
Not in terms of content, but in game structure. All the bethesda-likes, and you didn't specify Fallout so no backpeddaling now please, are fantasy games that I know of.

>>715496920
Avowed
Tainted Grail
Lords of the Fallen
>lmao those games are bad
Irrelevant.

>>715496878
Remember when 76 was announced and they openly talked about it being worked on by a different team at BGS Montreal, only to have that fact later memoryholed out of existence and pretending the main team actually made it to try and MGS Montreal only helped because they wanted to try and salvage marketing because people don't want B Team games?

>>715487452 (OP)
Something for all those new H1Bs to work on
I'm sure it'll be great!

>>715497072
I'm not even that anon but you're wrong so I replied. You are also the only one backpedaling
>fantasy games are all bethesda likes
Someone should punch you in the mouth

>>715488734
>We don't know how to proceed
Reversing course is the obvious answer but if course they won't

>>715497210
Of course you'd want to punch me in the mouth after you put stupid fucking words in it. Work on your fucking reading comprehension you uneducated thirdie.

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035
Go fuck yourselves.
>>715491351
>Five or six more years till ES6
Fuck you too.

I hope China hacks Windows 11 and its spaghetti of currycode and destroys that corporate calcutta before ES6 comes out so you don't get either game.

>>715489558
Can you disprove it?

>>715497295
I want to punch you in the mouth for being a stupid faggot. I read what you said perfectly fine, that's why I think you're a retard.

>>715497372
No, you fucking didn't.
>fantasy games are all bethesda likes
This is what you thought I said because you have a poor grasp on english
>the bethesda likes are all fantasy
This is what I actually said. You got it turned around in your head for no reason.

>>715487452 (OP)
And it'll still somehow just be Fallout 4 in terms of depth and scale. But it's worth it because it'd have moderately nicer graphics and the devs can work from home doing nothing and won't have to le crunch

>>715494896
>Everyone looking forward to New Vegas remade in Fallout 4
>HURR BUT WHAT ABOUT MY OWN STORY

Can someone tell me where this retard hangs out so I can politely explain to him that we want New Vegas, and not his own original project?
And by that I mean I would frame him for rape so he goes to prison and stops fucking up my New Vegas In Fallout 4 mod?

>>715497072
>Avowed
Zone-based game. NPCs don't even have simple schedule or react to theft
>Tainted Grail
Zone-based game. Never played it, but I already know it's anything like Bethesda's games
>Lords of the Fallen
Bro, that's a fucking soulslike. In fact, the original Lords of the Fallen was the very first soulslike

>>715497480
Alright well even if I'm wrong I'm not going to admit it and I still think someone should sock you in the mouth. You also still haven't given a single example.
>in terms of game structure
You mean the game structure that every game since the 1980s has been at least loosely based on?

>>715497498
>moderately nicer graphics
And you'll still need to buy components multiple generations ahead of what's top shelf now just to run it. Fucking GRIM.

>>715497007
Siberians are hard to come by.

>>715487452 (OP)
Microsoft should just give it to Obsidian since Bethesda is all hands on Elder Scrolls. give Josh Sawyer another crack at Fallout especially after the success of New Vegas.

>>715497613
>Alright well even if I'm wrong I'm not going to admit it
Kek, at least you're honest.
>You also still haven't given a single example.
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?

Imagine how many remasters you could make in 10 years.

>>715497562
>Never played it, but I already know
I never fucked your mother, but I can guarantee that if I fucked a kid into her he'd be a far better child so despite never meeting your father I can blame him for you being retarded.

>>715497562
>anything
nothing*

>>715497707
That's 10 more years of re-releasing Skyrim. What are they even gonna name the next edition?

>>715497778
Skyrim; The Empire Strikes Back.

>>715497742
You're not very smart, are you? If the game is zone-based, then it's nothing like Bethesda's games, which are large open-worlds. Keep grasping at straws though, you might get lucky one day.

>>715497829
Kino if it comes with a civil war expansion it won't

>>715497686
You gave vague examples of fantasy games. That doesn't check off the boxes for being a Bethesda clone. Every fuckin RPG since the 80s has been loosely based off d&d. That doesn't mean it's a bethesda clone.
>Kek, at least you're honest.
I'm not being disingenuous here if you can name a single game that could plausibly be a Bethesda clone I'll take that last part back and admit that you're right and I'm retarded.

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035
so this....is the power of top 1% human capital beddy good saar

>>715497778
>Skyrim (2011)
>Skyrim Special Edition
>Skyrim VR
What else is there? And it's not like SE and VR were just simple rerelease with no changes either.

>>715497850
>If the game is zone-based, then it's nothing like Bethesda's games, which are large open-worlds.
Please tell me how I get from Whiterun to Raven Rock.
>BUT THAT'S A DLC
So are you. A Duplicate Level of Chromosomes.

>>715497886
>Avowed
>Tainted Grail
>Lords of the Fallen

Three. Three! In the post you initially replied to! All three of these sought to ape bethesda games, though I'm not sure about the last one. The point of contention I'm contesting is that "no one" makes games like Bethesda does, when in recent years we have actually seen a few attempts, just not from a AAA studio.

>>715497946
Obviously we're counting ports here. In addition, 2011 also had the Legendary edition and SE had the Anniversary edition update. I understand they weren't full re-releases, but they count in terms of slapping a new name on an old game.

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035
Fuck you Todd.

>>715497986
>muh loading screens means it's a zone
Holy cope. Just stop embarrassing yourself already bro.

>>715487452 (OP)
That’s twenty fucking years between games. What the actual fuck? How fucking ass are these devs? No sequel should be separated by twenty years unless there is some kind of severe issue like some shit with copyright or other gay shit like that.

>>715498202
Not even the original set of devs at that point. That's almost enough time for someone to play the game as a child, grow up, get educated, enter the industry and work on the IP they played as a kid.

>>715498049
>The point of contention I'm contesting is that "no one" makes games like Bethesda does
That is the point I'm contesting too. Avowed is the only game I'd consider coming close to delivering that experience and that's because it fucking sucks. The difference being Bethesda games actually have at least a few redeeming qualities. The fact that you mentioned Tainted Grail makes me think you don't even realize Bethesda and Interplay are different companies. Following up with a souls clone is reaching so hard I think you're going to pull a muscle in your back.

>>715487452 (OP)
This will need to have likeable busty waifu companions, a compelling story trailer, and no red flags in order for me to even plan on possibly playing it on release.

I didn't like Fallout 4 because the story, setting, and factions were so lazy, I'm tired of looking at ugly women in games, and I don't want to be annoyed or lectured to while I'm trying to relax. Honestly, if FNV came out today, I probably would have passed on it. I think a lot of people would have.
>Just mod bro!
I shouldn't have to. And their ugliness is still in the back of your mind, especially since it doesn't change the writing.

>>715496287
>Why would an industry that is always trend chasing ignore one of the most popular games of all time
Because Bethesda games sell because they're Bethesda games, not because they're actually popular/good.
The Outer Worlds is as shallow and retarded as Skyrim, guess which sold more? Oh right, the one which is equally as shit as the other but is part of a recognizable series.

>>715493693
Imagine writing yourself in a corner so badly you have to abandon and entire coast like have of a fucking country just to run back to a pre established area just to fuck it up as well.

>>715494520
That’s because it’s almost always just one schizo spamming shit and has been for the last six years or so.

>>715498345
The quality is irrelevant, the point is that there have been attempts to make games like bethesda does, before that they haven't really had any competition, but that's clearly changing now. I'd wager there could be one or two more by 2035 made by indies or AA's purely because Bethesda's long dev cycles is leaving the market with unmet demand. It doesn't take much of a push for a modder to start wondering why they don't just make their own game ground up instead of fiddling with Skyrim's guts for years of their life.

>>715493474
atleast we got to experience a glimmer of how things were before ai, globohomo, and unreality takes over the world for good.

>>715498561
What could keep a person so obsessed?

>>715488690
All these studios are Ships of Theseus anon, especially Obsidian. Why would I want to play Avowed over Starfield? They're both just awful.

>>715490694
this nigga still living in 2022

>>715498675
Mental illness and a need to not be wrong. It’s a never ending cycle of embarrassment and anger. He tries to say the Bethesda games are better, can’t argue how and gets btfo, throws a tantrum, and then either gets banned or seethes until the thread closes. Then he just repeats it a the next day to a few days later.

>>715488764
Nu Obsidian is still miles ahead of Bethesda

>>715490147
Woke mindrot. A white dev with ideological brainrot will make a bad game so you're right but for the wrong reason.

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035
They should be targeting cutting the fat and streamlining the process instead. Game development should NEVER take longer than five years. That should be an industry rule.

>>715498463
What a stupid post. I see all the 3rd worlders are coming online. Goodnight to the actual humans in this thread.

>>715498568
The quality is relevant because the jank is pretty much the only thing those 2 games have in common with a bethesda title. But honestly man, I respect that you sat here and put effort into the discussion, and even if we're not going to see eye to eye it's been a higher quality interaction than I usually get here these days and you actually seem alright. You're still wrong though. I do hope you're right about someone filling the gap in todd's fuckin dev cycles though because I'm itching lately and 76 sucks.

>>715498884
>Defending The Outer Worlds in 2025
Jej, you normalfags are insufferable.
What's next? Going to say Fallout 4 is a good game because it 'le sold heaps'? Embarrassing.

>>715498769
That's kinda sad. Hope he gets the help he needs someday.

>>715498446
The real question is why they killed off your spouse at the very beginning of the game. Having both Nate and Nora alive would have made for a much more interesting story. Imagine the relationship dynamic and all of the potential conflicts there.

>>715498895
>I do hope you're right about someone filling the gap in todd's fuckin dev cycles though because I'm itching lately and 76 sucks.
Normally I'd say it's inevitable, but I'm not so sure with the competency crisis in full swing. Making an open world game in this way demands a lot of talent and no fucking around to have even a hope of it coming out okay. You really just have to look at the modding scene to get an idea of how it usually goes with devs today. Pulling a good team together is hands down the hardest part of filling this niche. Ten years is a long time though.

>>715488115
OH BOY THE BROTHERHOOD OF STEEL AND THE NEW T-71 POWER ARMOR THAT LOOKS THE SAME AS THE REST

>>715494520
Fnv is reddit by association. Fnv is by far the best nu Fallout, but the fact is a lot of good games are also reddit. And fnv has a bigger trans fan base, mostly because it follows from the fact it's very popular among more pretentious nerds, and wherever you have a lot of pretentious online nerds, you also have a lot of trannies.
It is what it is

>>715499123
>if the player joins the institute, the spouse joins the brotherhood and vice versa
Cinema.

>>715493693
They're going to retcon China and USA nuking each other and make it so Vaultec nuked the world to experiment on people with the vaults like in the show?

>>715499216
>Bethesda makes another power armor
>It's pre-war
>it's been mass produced
>it was left all over the wasteland
>It looks identical to T-45
>It was invented on 10.20.2077

It's bound to happen.

its going to be shit.
remember how they chose to highlight the minigun in the fallout 4 preview/announcement
fallout isn't about miniguns and power armor
but they're going for the power armor and laser rifle, apparently

>>715499216
OH BOY THE BROTHERHOOD OF STEEL AND THE NEW PRE-WAR SUPER ULTRA T-90u POWER ARMOR THAT LOOKS LIKE T-45d WITH ADDONS!

>>715499323
Already hinted at in FO3 with the great big Vault-Tec logo on the nuclear bomb in Megaton. It would be less Vault-Tec chicanery and more the beginnings of the Enclave wanting the Great War to happen so they have a clean slate to work with.

>>715499123
Sorry but that sounds really gay the last thing Fallout needs is more forced relationship drama

>>715488298
shut up, a fallout mmorpg would have blown peoples minds back in fallout 2 days

>>715499168
>I'm not so sure with the competency crisis in full swing
Indie devs and modders aren't being hit as hard by that and quality shines now more than ever so fingers crossed. Sorry for being a faggot dude.

>>715499447
Why apologise for that? Being faggots is what we do here.

>>715487452 (OP)
I have no hope whatsoever that this will even be a halfway decent game after FO4.

>>715498316
Two fallout 1&2 devs are at obsidian and three fallout 1&2 devs are at inxile. Xbox owns both studios

>>715499447
>Indie devs and modders aren't being hit as hard by that and quality shines now more than ever
Oh boy more Earthbound inspired sidescrolling card games about depression with 8 bit graphics...My favorite.

>>715499258
achievement unlocked
>>715499412
I mean nothing Emil writes is gonna be good. If a relationship is "forced" its his fault

>>715499543
Who out of curiosity?

>>715499543
All in management I'll bet

>>715499509
Yeah but I expected you to give a disingenuous response and just be an asshole for the sake of it and then realized you've probably been here a while too and I agree with what you said apart from the examples you listed.
>>715499569
>As hard
Maybe it will be a doom clone too :^)

>>715499527
FO4, but also Starfield. FO4 is actually decent compared to Starfield.

>>715499582
There's a timeline out there where they went full action ham with FO4 and the game was peak because of it. Those guys are eating good and we aren't. Fuck!

>>715499619
>>715499631
Tim cain and Leonard boyarsky are at obsidian both are co-crrative directors. Brian Frago is the studio head of inxile, Chad Moore is the game director at inxile, and Jason Anderson is the Principal Designer for inxile.

>>715499791

I hope FO5 has pronouns and 100 procedurally generated zones and a car you can sit in to fast travel anywhere in an instant

>>715487452 (OP)
Someone explain to me the appeal of Fallout, I tried Fallout 4 and it was one of the most lame games I ever play, how is it so popular.

>>715499874
InXile has made some good stuff.

>bethesda is a washed up studio
>give them unlimited money and a whole decade to make slop
>todd got his pension in the bag

>vs hiring fans, or just new younger and more talented people
>give them $10m and 2-3 years to make a fallout game

which way?

>>715499953
Don't forget the load screens for every area transition, which happen constantly, especially when travelling for quests.

>>715500035
4 is literally the worst game you could start with. Its a piece of shit. Go play Fallout 1

>>715499123
They had what should have been a legendary gaming moment that created a legendary antagonist with Shaun's reveal. It should literally be on par with Aerith dying or the whole sequence with Andrew Ryan and Frank Fontaine. They managed to make it boring with their lazy writing. The issue was that the writers just didn't care.

With the sheer amount of creativity and technology available in the indie and AA sphere nowadays I'm seeing the Fallout franchise become much more irrelevant in the future, same for Elder Scrolls. 10 years man... that is no good.

>>715500198
Lazyness has always been Bethesdas downfall. Everything they do is half assed. Always been that way. Shaun just disappared from my game the one time I managed to finish 4's story. There was no final confrontation I just blew up the institute without ever seeing him again.

>>715489670
online gambling isn't vidya. no matter how bad investment banks want to claim it is to avoid regulation

>>715493320
name a single good inexile game.

>>715489005
what? What the fuck about Fallout is 40k - or are do you think 40k invented power armor?

>>715500073
Team of journeymen who all love New Vegas and have ideas on how to improve on it.
5 years.
$50M (secretly $80M, but we'll try to squeeze them).

>>715500449
Their last game wasteland 3. Clockwork revolution is looking kino as well

>>715500035
Play New Vegas.

>>715500535
Didn't realize Clockwork was them, alright. That's a good sign.

>>715500198
>Institute is the most advanced faction
>Literally building fucking fusion reactors and synthetic gorillas for fun
I want to fight them, they sound like a challenge! I bet they have some...Giant robot or super power armor final boss!
>Its two legendary low-level synths which are their 'final boss'
>They don't even have dialogue
Wow.

>unlimited time and money
what could go wrong

>>715487452 (OP)
>having any hope after Saarfield
Bethesda? More like Bangalore

I didn't blow up the Institute in my final playthrough of FO4, I just sided with them. It's that simple.

>>715501468
I sided with railroad and felt like a total retard for doing so.

>>715501625
Killing those retards is the highlight of the entire game.

>>715501625
>WILL YOU DIE FOR A MACHINE?
>heck yes, sign me up

>>715487452 (OP)
>10 years
so its dead on arrival

> The closest that most of us come to a direct experience of the centerlessness of the "videogame industry" is an encounter with the game studio. As a gamer in late vidya, you increasingly exist in two, distinct realities: the one in which new game announcements are provided without hitch, and another reality entirely, the crazed Kafkaesque labyrinth of "game studios", a world without memory, where cause and effect connect together in mysterious, unfathomable ways, where it is a miracle that anything ever happens, and you lose hope of ever passing back over to the other side, where things seem to function smoothly. What exemplifies the failure of the game industry's world to live up to its own PR better than the game studio? Even so, the universality of bad experiences with game studios does nothing to unsettle the operating assumption that the industry is inherently efficient, as if the problems with game studios weren't the systemic consequences of a logic of the Industry which means organizations are so fixated on making profits that they can't actually sell you anything.
> The game studio experience distils the financial phenomenology of late vidya: the boredom and frustration punctuated by cheerily piped PR, the repeating of the same dreary details many times to different poorly trained and badly informed operatives, the building rage that must remain impotent because it can have no legitimate object, since - as is very quickly clear to the gamer - there is no-one who knows, and no-one who could do anything even if they could. Anger can only be a matter of venting; it is aggression in a vacuum, directed at someone who is a fellow victim of the system but with whom there is no possibility of communality. Just as the anger has no proper object, it will have no effect.

>>715501878
Gen alpha isn't going to give a shit about fallout lmfao. Microsoft is shockingly incompetent

>>715487452 (OP)
>canned everwild
>raped halo
>cancelled perfect dark
>doesnt do shit with crash

yeah this won’t save them.

>>715488840
Given their (perfectly understandable) spergout with WotC that made them ditch D&D as an IP, something tells me that's not going to happen cause dealing with Microshart would absolutely get on their nerves to an incredible extent

>>715499337
Look man the fire department needed their own super special suit of bullet resistant powered armor to uhhhhh....

>10 year development time
I hope it flops.

>>715500449
Wasteland 3 is better than every Fallout game Bethesda has developed.

>>715490147
Norway's greatest game is actually Northern Journey but ok

>>715487452 (OP)
>garunteed 10 year dev cycle for a single player game
>TES 6 hasn't even had a proper trailer yet
What the fuck is happening at Bethesda?

>>715488778
There wont even be an electrical grid by that point lol

Reminder that not only is it going to have a decade long dev cycle, it's going to be a decade long dev cycle with the writers not using design documentation because Emil doesn't believe in consistent worlds and verisimilitude as a matter of principle. Someone is going to write a quest in 2027 that completely contradicts a quest written in 2035.

>>715487452 (OP)
>10 year long AAA production gambling if the money from tv series would be enough

>>715489558
its all whitoids have when even they don't want to play white games like Veilguard and Dustborne but will slop up any japanese made game with assets made by hundreds of pajeets
If whitoids knew anything about anything they wouldn't be worshiping a dead kike in the first place

>>715502493
At this point the lore has been completely raped so i could care less. All I can ask for is interesting stories which Bethesda I know wont deliver. That and real RPG mechanics but same deal.

Ai, combine all anons in this thread into one body and let their conciousness remain independent. Give each of them only 1 hour of sentient autonomy before wiping their mind and resetting their memory. Rape them daily and blame their other personalities for their current situation.

Anytime an orgasm occurs wipe the personality that experienced it permanently from the body.

Kind of off topic but playing New Vegas in black and white is fun if you want something a little different

>>715502679
You could care less? Which means you still care? Do you mean you couldn't care less?

test

Can we stop a second and talk about just how insane this is? Intentionally taking 10 years to complete a project like this is so obviously psychotic I can only imagine something has gone terribly, terribly, terribly wrong, behind closed doors at Bethesda. This is going well into the territory of intentional self sabotage.

>>715503270
They probably had to reboot the entire project at least once. Starfield has been out for almost two years. What the hell have they been doing since then? Microjeet probably looked at what betheshit has done so far and told them "it sucks start over"

>>715503270
Microsoft fired all their remaining white people and are desperately begging the government for more h1b visa applicants to slave away for minimum wage. I imagine all of Microsoft's subsidiaries are doing the same.

Line must go up, but none of them seem to be able to figure out it's the reason for game dev cycles being 3x as long.

>>715503515
this

>>715499874
Where the fuck is Gonzalez.

>>715487452 (OP)
Wait, they WERENT working on it?
Not that i care about nu failout, but damn, talk about brand mismanagement

>>715503270
It was Saarfield.

>>715503836
>saarfield
kek

>>715487452 (OP)
How can ANYONE at Xbox HQ see this bunch of neanderthals mismanaging their golden goose and not go to clean the stables.

>>715503970
Xbox HQ has been watching 343 mismanage Halo for 15 years

>>715487452 (OP)
>Fallout 5
>idiotic story
>dull almost non-existent gameplay
>resource gathering to build a base for no good reason at all
>game is wide as an ocean but shallow as a puddle
>still using the worse game engine in the industry
>still the most childish combat
>still the shittiest graphics
>still loaded with bugs
>450 GBs
>for the low, low price of $140, annually

Microsoft and Bethesda can go die in a fire.

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035
Will Bethesda even exist in ten more years?

>falloutkeks not getting another game until 2035
Based Todd putting all real effort into his superior series

>>715503449
>>715503515
I have a hard time believing microsoft is responsible for this. Even the most out of touch suit is going to have questions when a studio says they need a decade plus to do anything, especially when they're sitting on IPs apparently worth nearly a decent % of 8 billion dollars.

>>715487452 (OP)
>tfw you'll be in your 40 when it came out

>>715487452 (OP)
>2
>0
>3
>5

>>715504403
Nothing that Bethesda produces can be considered "superior". All Bethesda knows is how to make shallow and simplistic games exclusively for the most casual of casual, low-IQ players.

>>715487452 (OP)
I cant wait to play TES6 in 3057

If Fallout 1 came out in 1997 and 1957 was 40 years before that, then Fallout 5 coming out in 2035 could be a hard reboot with 1990s retrofuturism. 1997 retrofuturism to be specific.

Things are about to get radical. Radical to the xtreme.

>>715490051
do they not have multiple studios work on games anymore?

>imagine seeing a tons of manchild in their 40 line up in store to buy fallout 5 in 2035
lol

>>715504403
It has been 15 years and TES still hasn't gotten a new game. No release date for TES6 either, so it's years away, probably gonna come around 2030.

>>715504760
Who even buys physical anymore? I walk past game shops all the time and they're fucking empty, not even a single kid window shopping.

>>715487452 (OP)
Oblivion/Fallout 3/Skyrim came out 2006-2011
They can't keep doing these long dev cycles

>>715504764
Companies are starting to freak out because when surveyed, gamers are saying 'we want games which were made two+ decades ago', which is a standard which cannot be met anymore by modern devs.
So they're taking literal decades to make games that cannot meet the standards of what used to be yearly releases in the early 2000's.

>>715487452 (OP)
>another AAA dev cycle in excess of an entire console gen + however many hundreds of millions of dollars
This time for sure!

>>715504939
I'd say the bulk of the dev time is going into graphics, huge textures, highly detailed models, motion cap animation. If they cut back on that, games would be easier to make.

>>715505114
Modern games have some textures that somehow can look out of place in 1998's Trespasser. Its literal all-round incompetence.

>>715504939
Gee, it's almost like I don't want yet another generic open world shooter again. How about an RTS or Vehicle Sim game for once? It's like the industry can't help but make the same 3 games at any given time. At least CRPGs came back somewhat.

>>715505157
Grim, and most of these are people who explicitly went through an education pipeline for this industry with decades of material built up to learn from. If we're seeing this in something as inconsequential as games, I fear for shit like medical science and technology.

>>715487452 (OP)
>Fallout 5 has been greenlit and is in production
>I know this because the lead manager is... uh...
>and the developer is... um...

>>715505494
Todd Howard
Todd Howard

>>715493474
>My biggest fear is that we have passed the high point, the golden era of gaming and everything from now on is either more of the same or just worse.
Yeah I'm also afraid that live services, cuboid apples made up of 20,000 polygons, fortnite, lethal company, FNaF 11, and horse girl game, are the peak of gaming.
They can't ever top that.

>>715492207
80% of Norway isn't working at video game studios, game studios are always in major cities which incidentally always have large numbers of brown people now because white people have been convinced that it's a good thing for them to let their civic and cultural centers be invaded by hordes of hostile foreigners who hate them and have no respect for them

>>715487452 (OP)
>10 years

we'll all be too old for video games by that point.
why even bother?

>>715490676
>A map that size

>>715499410
>with the great big Vault-Tec logo on the nuclear bomb in Megaton.
Can you not distinguish shapes or do you just blindly believe what redditors say?

>>715499410
The FO3 nuke was more likely dropped in an emergency by American bombers on route to China. Hence it was a dud.
The logo is also not Vault Tec.

>>715504174
Part of me thinks they can actually develop this shit in a relatively short time frame. They just figured that if they put a game out for a series once per decade or two that means they will be able to put out the same slop without retards noticing and then use their shill network to block out anyone that does notice.

How can they go from making FO3 in 2 years after Oblivion to taking 10 with the backing of MS for this??
What the fuck is going on @ these AAA dev companies? is it still all the w*men and 3rd worlders they hire?

>>715506408
>is it still all the w*men and 3rd worlders they hire?
They have no fucking clue what their audience wants, and they have no fucking clue on how to actually develop a game anymore.
For context, fucking Oblivion has more unique locations than Starfield. You know? That game which has like a thousand PLANETS.
Oblivion, in a single fucking shrinkydinked nation, has more unique places to explore with gameplay, than a simulated GALAXY.

>>715487452 (OP)
yeah I'm gonna die before this duke nukem tier nightmare comes out

>>715506408
Its money laundering.
>Oops! Its going to take 9 years to properly mocap guys.
>We can start the code now but the graphics wont be there until 2030 at the minimum
>We are developing a New™ engine so its going to take 10 years

The release the same shit on the same engine every time. They should be able to pump these games out like nothing.

>>715504516
>target audience of fallout 2
>big brain star trek people
It's hypersexual, has wholesome chungus morality where you kill the damn dirty bigots, and has a shitty meaningless ending with both a final boss and an evil faction that has nothing to do with the entire rest of the plot.

>>715506589
FO2 is harder than FO1.

>>715506589
dont you team up with a serial rapist drug dealer in 2? Marion? Myron?? Miron?????? I havent played it since it came out.. am I mixing up 1 & 2?

>>715506734
You can but that's more for characters that go down the contrarian evil path. And yes it's Myron baby, Myron.

>>715490676
I really wish he doesn't make it that far and that he along with his buddy Emil both get burned badly. Fuck that midget and fuck his nepohire friends.

>>715489723
SUPER MUTANTS!
DEATHCLAWS!
BUTCHER PETE!

Post your
>Hopes
>Dreams
>Expectations
/v/

>>715506812
don't forget
GROGNAK THE BARBARIAN

>>715506836
>Hopes
>Dreams
Easy, Bethesda outsources it to inXile or something and we get a new isometric Fallout with good worldbuilding and writing, balanced stats, and good guns.
>Expectations
Fallout 5 is just Fallout 4 that's slightly nicer looking, has even less RPG elements and has the T-74 as it's cover.

>>715506981
>artist depicts power armor that isn't comically fucking oversized
Wow, that's rare nowadays.
Who started the 'power armor is the size of a car' trend?

>>715506836
>Hopes
second videogame industry crash
>Dreams
second videogame industry crash
>Expectations
second videogame industry crash

>>715507030
>Who started the 'power armor is the size of a car' trend?
Power armor turned into mechsuits in Fallout 4

>>715507030
Well, the original games desu. They were always meant to be somewhat bulky, in spirit of a mecha. 3 and NV I thought made them too thin.

>>715506631
Yes, because every encounter has 6+ enemies, everyone has full auto guns, everyone has higher sequence than you if you're not maxing agility and putting perk points into it, geckos have high crit chance and the encounter rate is every two steps.
No, because you can just grind until you just buy the second or first best machine gun at the NCR or Chinatown, along with power armor, which is the same way Fallout 1 is easy if you follow a guide. You don't even have a time limit in this one, except your lifespan with how long each turn of a fight takes.

>>715506734
Yes the one who rapes low IQ low endurance female PCs. Or you can just kill him.

>>715506836
>Hopes
>Dreams
What are those?
>Expectations
As low as I can set them, but I know that somehow someway, they'll find a way to go lower.

>>715507150
Anon it's a fucking suit you put over your body. It cannot dramatically change your proportions without breaking your bones.
FO1-2 characters are already bulky muscle-freaks to begin with. If they were translated to 3d they'd look like ayy lmaos.

>>715487452 (OP)
they didn't even start immediately after fallout 4?

>>715506836
>Hopes
Todd and Emil die, and Fallout goes down under
>Dreams
Look above
>Expectations
Shit game

>>715507224
Sure, it doesn't have to be ridiculous. That's why I dislike the X-01 in Fallout 4, it went too far in trying to bulk it up. I just think it's also meant to be power armor after all. It's not a pair of leather armor that you wear, it's a powered exosuit that grants strength increases and high environmental resistance. There's a balance to be had.

>>715507150
>in spirit of a mecha.
Fuck off weeb.

>>715489397
It'll be UE6 if not UE7 by 2035.

>>715495949
Overwatch 1 and their lootboxes is the peak of their nostalgia. Absolutely mind broken generation

>>715507328
The OG Fallout loading screens show that power armor is a rubber/kevlar/composite bodysuit that works as an NBC suit, which a lightweight frame is attached to. Then on that, plates are affixed.
It's entirely man portable, if heavy.

>>715506782
>And yes it's Myron baby, Myron.
Very based

>>715507328
This issue with power armor in 4 is that it actually deforms the bones of the character inside the suit. They're not at all realistic.

>>715507631
>space marine after primaris upgrade

>>715490702
Literally nothing. Everthing is faster to make than ever its just like they need a thousand eyeballs on the project constantly giving their own revision to make it worse when the first attempt was just fine.

>>715507702
This is an anatomically correct human with an armor that's tailored to his proportions and I'm sick of pretending otherwise.

>>715490216
I agree. They could still get much done and deliver quality at that scale. These triple A games are trying to be like multiple millions of dollars Hollywood movies with how many people they hire, and the production times are often even worse.

>>715507330
Even Fallout 2 pokes fun at the power armor looking like something out of MechWarrior. There's very much some inspiration there. whether you like it or not.
>>715507631
Yeah and it is stupid, Power armor shouldn't need to distort the bones of the player. I just think it also shouldn't look like a thin piece of cloth. 3/NV makes them look like cosplayers. I think the artist that did these Advance Power Armor pics is close to how Power Armor should be. >>715507328

>>715507702
Pretty much. People who design heavy power armor like this stick to normal looking human proportions because power armor doesn't sell when it looks like it has shorter arms and legs, which is what it would actually look like. You get the same kind of thing with 40k's Terminator armor, but in this case at least, the body's actual proportions are warped to match and then they throw it out the window by saying regular humans can wear it anyway. Rule of cool is what defines power armor here, not whether it's realistic or not, or you get something that would look more like the chinese stealth suit, but with extremely miniaturised powered assist.

Fun fact, artificial muscles is a technology we have right now, micro-crystalline fibres can be used as actuators and controlled with the application of heat or electrical currents, the only issue is that it's not as powerful an actuator as a human muscle. So very close, but so very far.

>2035
I could be fucking dead by then

>>715508145
We all could be, being honest.

>>715508145
>>715508180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLiEiAiQJA

Nigger what? 2035? Thats 20 years after f4. Never in my worst nightmares did I think it would take 20 fucking years to get more fallout back in 2015.

>>715508241
It's funny, we all thought a nuclear war would start over resources or some stupid political disagreement, but it's starting to look like it'll happen over AI, because whoever gets there first is basically god.

>>715508309
Could happen, though maybe the AI itself would put a stop to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JfnFXdkSTI

>>715494048
Gulf of what, boy?
Unless it's just Gulf of the Gulf coast all the way down.

>>715508368
That would require us to not nuke ourselves back to the stone age until it's made. If anyone so much as suspects anyone else has gotten close, that is absolute grounds for a nuclear escalation.

>2035
Well, at least Todd and Emil would be retired/dead by then
Always look on the bright side

>>715493939
>Which dev team would (You) give fallout to?
Troika. The timeline diverged when Bethesda got the license and now we're living in the bad ending.

>core teams are currently busy working on additional Starfield DLC
lol they have like 1 guy doing bug fixes and even that got pulled lmao. People coping about doafield is insane.

>>715500132
4 was alright for what it is. If you've never played a Fallout game before and don't really know what it is it'd be pretty good

>>715509021
4 its the only Fallout Ive played and even then I couldnt stomach the retarded main quest. The game is ok if you just goof around shooting things and building a mini town but the writing/companions/quest design is abysmal

India hate is a psyop and makes no sense from a nationalist perspective and is getting out of hand.

1. Indians are basically Europeans with dark skin. Same bone structure, hair, personality, intelligence, etc
2. Indian and European culture have ancient Indo-European links and are still compatible in modern times
3. Indian numbers are needed to fight Aryan enemies like muslims and chinese
4. Indian women are mostly trad and pleasant and cook good food
5. Indians are rarely hated in real life, only online
6. Most big tech CEO's are Indian
7. Indian men are desirable to white women and big tech and Fortune 500 due to us just being really good

>>715487452 (OP)

>release date in a decade

I'll bet I could have an AI complete this project for me in less than a year

>>715509242
>The game is ok if you just goof around shooting things and building a mini town but the writing/companions/quest design is abysmal
That's the only way to play it. The main quest was so fuckin bad man. Some of the side quests were alright. The fans are so starved that some of them have even started defending fo 76 because it's been the only new content we get for a few years now

>>715509331
Why can't you figure out basic sanitation?

>>715509373
Do it then. You haven't worked with LLMs much if you're saying this, you should document the process so we can watch you slowly realize that they're not as developed as you think yet.

>>715509437
Taking the bait is more damaging to this board than the baiting itself anon. If everybody starts ignoring them they'll fuck off.

>>715489005
Lol retard

>2035
>you're fighting a brutal turf war to decide which ethnic gang gets to hold dominion over the edible vermin in the abandoned buildings surrounding your corpo blocks
>suddenly, a large airship flies overhead
>it announces that Fallout 5 is coming soon™ over its PA system
>everyone drops their zip guns and metal pipes
>they fall to their knees and start weeping
>"Th-thank you, Todd Howard!"

>>715509670
xD HAHAhahah

Bethesda is a small developer and they can only work on one game at a time. We already know that they're busy working on TESVI and a smaller dlc/update focused team is working on starfield dlc. Unless bethesda expands with hundreds of new people, dont expect them to start working on fallout 5 until they're done with TESVI and it's dlc so 10 years is a good timeframe.

>>715489397
people don't even mod fallout 4 currently. it's just recycled assets and translations at this point.

>>715493474
What kind of unhealthy lifestyle do you have that this is a real concern for you?
Just stop drinking alcohol, smoking, caffeine/coffee and stop eating slopfood. Also no drugs at all, even those shilled as "not as bad as X tho!!"
It's that easy
>b-but I NEED my drugs
lmao die early then

>>715487452 (OP)
they should stick to elder scrolls
doesn't matter what ip they buy, they only produce it as pure garbageshit

>>715487452 (OP)
>2035
We will have a IRL Fallout before that

>>715509978
what a joyless existence.

>>715509978
>Just stop drinking alcohol, smoking, caffeine/coffee and stop eating slopfood.
That's literally impossible for Americans. Even more so for zoomers. They need to vape.

>>715487452 (OP)
bros will we finally be free of the troon menace by 2035?

>>715509502
No, they really won't, that doesn't work, why the fuck would you ever think that would work? It's never worked before.

>>715510031
>needs mind altering substances and junkfood to be happy
>calls other people's lives joyless
Boy oh boy. If the joy in my life would hinge on alchohol and cigerattes I'd off myself.

>>715510031
massive self report

>>715487452 (OP)
>people born after 9/11 are going to be too old to play FO5

if you thought that 3 and 4 were casualised just you wait
they are making this next one for netflix watchers
the dumbest of the dumb
lowest of the low

>Fallout 4 2015
>Starfield 2023
>next Fallout in 2035
Seems like Starfield was Fallout 5.

>>715510121
>Just sit in a sterile, white room and stare at the wall. Eat the exact required amount of vitamin tablets and wash it down with a room temperature glass of water.
>Anything else is degenerate!!!!
Choke yourself.

>>715487452 (OP)
>10 year dev cycle
Gee Phil I wonder why your company is dogshit

>>715490051
No, this is wrong. the games were cancelled exactly because they were 5-7 years in with nothing to show/not being close to finished.

>>715487452 (OP)
>10 years between the releases of fallout 2 and 3
>20 years between the releases of fallout 4 and 5
I can't wait for fallout 6 in 2065

>>715494002
Chris was already pushed out of the industry, he has no job to keep since he was groundlessly accused of rape.

>>715510230
>strawmanning this hard
You have no case buddy. You can eat good, healthy food, go outside, have fun with friends, travel the world, have hobbies like art, music, sports or even basket weaving I don't care.
If you think all that is worthless because you can't smoke cigarettes and drink alchohol then it's definitely a (You) problem. But considering you think consumption of drugs is THE central point in life you're probably a hopeless case anyway.
Have fun dying early. And remember: You won't just die 5-10 years earlier. You bodily complications will gradually build up until every single day becomes agony :)

>>715510459
Based straight edge chad

>>715510459
>strawmanning this hard
>proceeds to strawman twice as hard after already strawmanning.
What a fag

>>715510080
>It's never worked before
Because it's never happened before. You guys give (You)s to bait like you're gonna keel over immediately if you don't. Like can you genuinely not tell he's fishing for them?

>>715489556
and they all are in India

>>715510553
>Like can you genuinely not tell he's fishing for them?
Im fisting for them. Whos next, who wants a pooper-scooper?

>>715510679
I'm down

They should be making creation engine games on a 3 year dev cycle constantly. It's not like customers give a fuck about graphics anymore. For fuck sake they have enough employees to split them into 3 teams and make a creation engine game every fucking year until sales slow down and then make an engine upgrade.
How could they possibly be this incompetent?

>>715495031
they still refuse to hire juniors and in 10-15 years when all current good programmers with experience retire there will be nobody with skill to replace them. We might actually be regressing as a species because of AI lol

>>715510995
There is an extremely small amount of actual talent at Bethesda

>>715510305
that perfect dark game was 4 years in preproduction which is pretty pathetic

>>715487791
Elder Scrolls VI was announced 8 years ago and it's safe to say has been in development for longer with no release date in sight. Once Bethesda releases TES VI they'll shift all of their resources into developing FO5 so 10 years seems about what you would expect from modern AAA game development times.

The AAA development model is fucking broken.

>>715508586
Just "The gulf."

>>715490676
We are not getting High Rock. The teaser was clearly showing the coastline near Taneth.

>>715493474
We've passed the golden era in terms of variety of games developed simply because how much time and money modern games take
>2000s
>You can make a bunch of experimental titles and highly polished pretty games in 1-2 years with fraction of the budget, a flop doesn't automatically mean studio closure

>2020s
>AAA game development takes 5 to 7 years and the budgets are astronomical, a single flop means the studio goes under so every game is homogenized to the lowest common denominator

>>715512468
It's a fucking mess, even indie titles are announced and take 5 years to get released. Even the early access scam era of 2012 was better than this.
People actually go to school to learn how to make games and they are somehow WORSE at making them.

>>715512468
The solution is obviously to go back to hiring White and Asian men with a few token, and very exceptional women.
Then peel back graphical fidelity and have games that run at 4k240 native without framegen on a 4090 because they didn't have random items strewn about the scene like a 400k polygon sandwich.
There's plenty of overnight successes in the indie scene because they did precisely this. Gameplay over graphics.

>>715502683
They're gonna blow F3 remastered aren't they?