Post games that haven't been surpassed in their genre

klonoa is better

Mechanically the game is weak, Mario world is better gameplay wise

>>715495571 (OP)
Both Returns games, Celeste, Meat Boy, Pizza Tower. There, 4 games off the top of my head.

Game Over Dixie

>>715495841
>Both returns
I'd argue tropical freeze but not returns. for me it goes
2 > tropical freeze (my rationale being the swimming levels suck shit and needing to replay levels with specific kongs for secret exits is tedious) Returns > 1 > 3

Luigi's Mansion

>>715495841
Good list, but let's be real, only Tropical Freeze has that perfect balance of level design, music, and challenge. Returns was cool at the time but the waggle controls aged like milk. Celeste's great mechanically, but it doesn’t touch the overall vibe and replayability of Tropical Freeze or DKCR. Pizza Tower’s got sauce, but it's still riding on Wario Land's bones. Meat Boy? Respect, but it’s a precision masocore platformer-different flavor entirely.

>>715495571 (OP)

>>715495571 (OP)
>SSBM
Slim pickings but there is not a single platform fighter worth a damn besides Melee. Not even rivals.
>Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
Never been topped amongst 4X

>>715495841
>Celeste
I prefer Dustforce

2 is a lot better than Tropical Freeze. Are you guys just ignoring that half of Tropical Freeze is truly vile underwater levels with completely unfun controls?

>>715499473
>half
man there's like one world with a bunch of swimming levels and a handful of levels that have minor underwater sections.

>>715495571 (OP)
DKC1 is better. 2 has too many retarded gimmicks like wind. Shit shouldn't be changing your platforming controls at random intervals.

>>715501274
it's not random, it's timed. and 1 is too simple in execution, 2's levels are much better realized and have much more entertaining themes.

>>715495571 (OP)
1 and 3 are both better than this shit and only retarded bots who love apple and mcdonalds and nintendo disagree

>>715495841
dogshit tranny taste. I wish everyone who liked that shit was eradicated.

>>715503463
in 2 you have to just perfectly do exactly what they want you to do like a bot. soulless and there's no way to like it unless you're an absolute retard that loves playing like a bot.

>>715504060
As opposed to every other platformer

>>715495841
You'll never be a woman.

>>715504119
yeah it's like from start to finish you just play like a bot on every level.

>>715504216
As opposed to every other platformer

Reminder that there are bots made by trannies that groom autistic people. See: >>715504259
>>715504119

Why does nobody talk about DKC 3?

>>715504383
they're posers that only listened to dkc2 music on minecraft youtube videos made by post op troons

>>715504337
>Why is the heckin 2D sidescroller the same as every other sidescroller?! That makes it bad!
You're both incredibly dumb

>>715504383
Because Kiddy is a shit character to play as and the bosses and enemy designs leave a lot to be desired.

>>715504569
Couldn't have said it better myself. The overall visual aesthetic and music however are top tier as always.

>>715504510
You love cock and reddit and never played dkc 1 or 3 lol that's obvious

>>715504648
>I'm le trolling!
You're literally brown and don't have an IQ over 100

>>715504569
I loved that boss in dkc2 where there wasn't a fucking boss and there was just some gay 2 second cutscene. They were cooking with that one. Genius to just not make a boss for the boss level. That's art. Best game ever.

>>715504714
Said you to yourself in the mirror. You didn't play 1 or 3 lol.

>>715504119
No kidding. These people act like DKC2 invented linear platforming with specific level design. Newsflash: that's literally the entire genre. If anything, DKC2 just does it way better with actual variety and creativity instead of the same boring jungle levels over and over.

>>715504383
Kiddy sucks and the music isn't as good as 1 or 2 so everyone writes it off despite it having the best level design and gameplay of the trilogy.

>>715506187
imagine playing guitar hero with a controller
that's basically dkc2
you just press the exact inputs in the exact window the entire game like a bot. this is the intended way to play. you're a fucking retard that needs to die if you continue to be delusional and claim that every platformer is like this.

>>715495841
Celeste gets lots of hate here because of the trans shit but it genuinely has the coolest tech out of any 2D platformer imo. A shame that to get the most out of it you have to play mods.

>>715507593
Now this is true schizobabble

Viva Pinata

when I play dkc I play through all 3 games starting with 1, then 2, then 3. 1 is great fun to start out with. didn't try too hard and is just a solid fun game. 2 sucks because it's guitar hero bot shit for trannies and music everyone overly glazes, a boss level with no boss because they couldn't be fucked, too much gay as fuck pirate shit, and barely any level variety. then I look forward to 3 the most because it's the most fun, has the best bosses, kiddy is based and funny, rpg elements like getting items for the bears, the best overworld, and it has the most soul. 2 is for poser trannybots who listened to the dkc2 on a minecraft let's play and didn't even play any of the games.

>>715507308
It has a couple really vile levels with no parallel in the first two games. Particularly the sled levels are atrocious. They aren't anything like the great minecart or coaster levels from the first two. They actually play more like the universally loathed jetbike levels from the later Megaman games. Definitely not the best levels in the series.
The reason it is written off, though, is actually because as a late release game, a lot of the people driving online discourse never actually played it.
It is a good game.

>>715507593
this is the most retarded way i've ever seen someone call something a rhythm game lmao, you managed to do in the only way that would apply to literally every fucking game

>>715507872
>Particularly the sled levels are atrocious. They aren't anything like the great minecart or coaster levels from the first two.
They're literally the exact same thing just with a different aesthetic.

>>715507818
why is there a schizo here for every fucking franchise, just talk like a normal fucking human instead of freaking out when people prefer 2, it's okay, you're going to be fine

>>715507897
you're fucking retarded. every single game isn't like a quick time event the whole game like dkc 2 LOL stop saying this you fuckin retarded underage tranny. just because you first heard bramble scramble in a roblox let's play last year and you're nostalgic for a year ago.

>>715507949
They are not, at all. You can react to every single hazard in the minecart levels, you cannot react to the sled levels.

>>715507818
based

>>715507971
shut the fuck up little fag kid. shut your fucking retarded little child mouth bitch.

>>715495841
Returns is dogshit and so is your outlook on life

>>715508057
thanks for proving you're fucking retarded because even a little kid can react to the sled levels

DKC 2 confirmed for retards only

>>715508114
You have mental illness. I don't know what is wrong with this thread, but you need to stop posting and seek help.

>>715508170
omg you're mentally ill because you dont think the shittiest game in the series is the best. it's the est because I heard bramble scramble in a gaia online youtube video.

i will never forgive miyamoto for getting rid of the kremlings
they are so fucking cool

>>715504383
DKC3 didn't make as big of an impact because it came out several months after the N64, didn't have as good music, and the Dixie/Kiddy pair wasn't as liked as the previous protagonists

>>715508057
Just for you anon, I went and checked.
In DKC1's minecart levels it takes 42 frames in between a banana appearing on the right side of the screen and it reaching the player's hitbox.
In DKC3's sled levels it takes 42 frames for the same thing. So the speed is literally exactly the same and so is the reaction time necessary.

>>715508447
DKC 2 lovers confirmed to all be non-sentient retards

I really like the dark aesthetic in DKC1/2/3. With them being literal system sellers in the 90s, I'm surprised they completely turned their back on the art style and made everything so much more colorful with the new games.

>>715508496
parasites work on the new games

>>715495571 (OP)
Best thematic ost ever. Rare was especially good with music back then.

>>715495571 (OP)
Diablo 2

>>715508496
Because the new games aren't made by the same people.

>>715499473
I thought the swimming levels were pretty good. Better than swimming levels in most platformers imo.

>>715508447
Oh, I checked DKC2 as well, in that game it's only 28 frames. So DKC2's roller coaster stages are substantially faster than the other two.

>one of the biggest problems with Returns is that it regressed to DKC1 style copy paste bonus rooms instead of unique ones every time like in 2 and 3
>Tropical Freeze doesn't fix it and still does the same thing
>mfw people try to tell me that TF is good

>>715509149
dkc2 players confirmed retards with no lucidity and cattle insects who automatically like what they're told to like

>>715495571 (OP)
snessnoys deserve the rope

>>715509219
Thats the only realy flaw with TF tho. Its a huge flaw but the game is still great.
It's weird that the main game has so much soul and effort put into it and then the bonus rooms are just lame copy paste.

>>715508496
the dkc games were low res captures of high poly 3d models with ray traced shadows, I'm not sure the wii would have been capable of replicating that style in real time 3d.

>>715495571 (OP)
DKC2 already got surpassed the very same year it came out

>>715504775
DKC has shitty bosses let's be real here. It's the one thing Returns and Tropical Freeze do way better no contest.

>>715504383
it's worse than 1 and 2

>>715504615
visuals are good despite it's rather boring theming but the music is much worse than anything 1 and 2 have on offer.

>>715509504
returns bosses were copy paste, freeze had variety

>>715507971
people here are even more socially maladjusted than ever before so they can only get the human interaction they seek by being persistently and stupidly inflammatory towards any game seen as good because it's the easiest way to do so

>>715509219
the fact they didn't bother to make unique bonus challenges with a reward similar to 2's kremcoins really is a bummer. Kong letter collection to unlock the secret levels is fine, but the bonus stages of old really let the devs set up unique and fun little set-piece challenges that rewarded level exploration better than the puzzle pieces do.

>>715495571 (OP)
They just don't make 'em like they used to. This game had you design Mechs, give companies money to research new parts and weapons, and send out groups of Mechs. But you don't control any of them (without the cheat code), you watch them play out the programming that you coded into them. It is quite easy to 'break' the game, and it is noted in the manual for the game itself, but it is a lot of fun to mess around with. I never got to play the sequels, hope they are cool.

>>715510089
no it's because I hate seeing retards say gay retarded shit for years and years and reached my limit seeing this gay as fuck thread

>>715495571 (OP)

>>715495783
in theory but mario world levels suck

>>715509990
The soundtrack overall isn't as good but Nuts & Bolts and Rockface Rumble are some of the best songs in the entire trilogy.

>>715495841
>Meat Boy
lol no
the rest are quite good but DKC2 clears the returns games in my book

>>715497594
>Celeste
>I prefer Dustforce
I love both but Dustforce is probably my favorite game of all time and is the only game I can think of that surpasses dkc2 for me

>>715509469
its just so fucking boring
I really don't get it

>>715511197
Low IQ i guess

>>715511197
I'd say the same for preferring island over dkc2

>>715504383
couldn't get past the bug swarn level

>>715511304
I played both in '95 and love both, but the level design and bosses of YI were way more inventive and less straight forward

>>715495571 (OP)
I'm not gonna dunk on a game I like but I like Sonic 3 and Mega Man X more

dkc3 is too hawd :( it's impossible to weact to da wevels :(

>>715495783
Cape feather turns the game into a joke though. .

>>715509469
I'd like it more if the secret levels were more reasonable. Poochy ain't stupid is a nightmare of a level

>>715495783
go aways speedrun troon

>>715499473
The problem with Tropical Freeze is that there’s too many filler levels, I got tired of the jungle temple aesthetic really quick, also way to many boring samey secret rooms

>>715495571 (OP)
Donkey Kong Country 2
Banjo-Kazooie
Shenmue 1/2
Resident Evil Remake

>>715495571 (OP)
Dead by Daylight. Not deservedly -- it just enjoys such a complete and utter lack of competent competitors that its miserable playerbase has developed stockholm syndrome.

>>715497318
Bot post

>>715509469
Its alright, but man some of the levels in this game is hot garbage, especially the auto-scroller levels. No challenge, just slow and boring. Some of the good levels turn into auto-scrollers which fucking blows too. At least with DKC2 their few auto-scroller levels are somewhat fun. Even the minecart levels have a gimmick to them so their not the same and fun to play. DKC2's replay-ability and level designs beat Yoshi's Island

>>715511587
I beat it for the first time recently after years of failing it since the 90s.
Its based. Now I will tackle the other ones.

>>715495571 (OP)
Ez

>>715495571 (OP)
Ez 2

>>715495571 (OP)
Ez 3

>>715495571 (OP)
Tecmo's Deception
Ace combat
Armored Core
Non-collectathon 3d platformer, crash bandicoot
Guardian Heroes
Panzer Dragoon Zwei

The toboggan levels don't work because they're overly complex. The minecart/roller coaster levels in DKC1/2 are, well, on rails, so it's very easy to understand when you have to jump. 3 complicates this placing them in normal looking levels, where you have to pay attention to all the platforms and the enemies scattered around, which takes more time to process.
But shit really gets fucked with the tube levels, where they add the ceiling rail you can hang on to, enemies you need to jump in order to reach the rail, as well as obstacles on the ground placed extremely close to each other. It's such a clusterfuck that you need to memorize it just to know what to fucking do.

>>715515253
>Tecmo's Deception
the first one?

>>715504383
Cause donkey kong in canada is a shit idea.
>>715511587
Its like a minute long. Its not hard.

>>715515331
I had no problem with it in first grade lol

>>715508298
The fuck does miyamoto have to do with it? He doesn't make DK games, at least not since the 90s started.

>>715515253
My only gripe with armoured core is the lack of much real lore in some of the earlier generations and even some of the more recent ones. I fucking LOVE 4th and 5th gen, but the story beyond the surface level is really lackluster and I would have loved to see some more expansion on specifically the verdict war, the national dismantlement war, and most of silent line.

>>715504383
Because monkeys and crocodiles in canada is a boring as fuck theme. No one gives a shit about Canada.

>>715504775
Better than the shitty snowman from 3.

>>715517439
wrong

>>715517553
Unlimited sex

>>715504383
Because it's boring, the world is just forest mountain , dj2 had more variety kremland etc..

>>715495571 (OP)
this for cinematic platformers

>>715520890
this for WRPGs

DKC 2 and 3 > Tropical Freeze > DKC1 > Returns

They're all like...top 5% of all platformers ever

Super Meat Boy, Splosion Man, Ms. Splosion Man, They Bleed Pixels, Jumper 2, IWBTG, Celeste, Yooka-Laylee & The Impossible Lair, and the Mario Maker games are all great in terms of precise platformers since then

Pizza Tower and Antonblast are cool but i would consider that an entirely different subgenre

>>715508298
Where's this render from? It looks a lot fancier than the DKC ones.

>>715517109
Yeah, that's always been my biggest complaint too. AC’s gameplay loop is god-tier, but the storytelling often felt like an afterthought, especially when there’s so much cool shit just barely hinted at. Verdict Day had the potential to be a gritty war story but just kinda leaves you piecing together fragments from menus and mission briefings. I get that FROM likes that minimalist worldbuilding, but it could’ve gone so much harder if we had real character development or even just more cutscenes like 4A. I still hold out hope that the next gen will hit that AC6 sweet spot of narrative + autism mech tuning.

I'll never understand what people see in the original DKC trilogy
the 4:3 aspect ratio combined with how zoomed in it is and how large the sprites are make it an absolute pain to play, there's hardly any time to react to anything

>>715522890
kek I even beat the gba versions

>>715522890
>how zoomed in it is
Part of why I like it, a change of pace from 2D mario. The visuals and music are so damn pleasant too.

I played DKC with friends so that of course made the experience better.

>>715522659
AC6 was what the 4th and 5th gen should have looked like from a storytelling perspective. While I'm disappointed we didn't get a continuation from 5th gen there's not really much to continue is there, the verdict war is "over" now that the servers are closed and in that universe earth is pretty much a dead planet anyway. It'd be interesting to see which ending they canonise if 7th gen is a continuation of 6th gen.

>>715522890
I had that issue with DKC1 specifically but I think 2 and 3 are much, much better about enemy/hazard placements etc

>>715507818
i played through the games for the first time recently and this is true

>>715526120
holy based

>>715507818
I'm glad you mentioned trannies so i didn't have to read the rest of your post