Thread 715506819

6 days and 15 hours left until we finally go home, Pandabros!

>>715506819 (OP)
Funny how we went from you think you do but you dont to this

>>715506819 (OP)
Why does this shit need a trailer?

How did Cataclysm do anyway?
I cannot believe anyone cares about post-Wrath Classic

Do WoWfags actually pay to play old content that they've already played?

>>715506819 (OP)
bruh this is dogshit
I'm waiting for vanilla classic classic in 5 years

>>715506949
it did fairly well actually. it's not that surprising, if people stuck around all the way through Wrath they may as well have stuck around for Cata because the endgame is just more of the same. people who care about old world vanilla stuff already started dropping off to hardcore and SoD during Wrath.
classic in general is starting to lose some steam but there's still more than enough raidloggers to keep it afloat for now.

>>715506885
he was right but for the wrong reasons. the community is different and sucked any soul out of the game, the solved boring meta is cringe, gold buying is at an all time high, cross faction discord fuckery ruining servers, opening/closing transfers after servers have already died, the list goes on. you can cope and say all these things happened back then and they did, but the fact is it was never like this. it is a strictly worse experience largely due to the community but mostly due to blizzard being completely hands-off.

>>715506949
I quite liked Cataclysm desu. Raids were good, classes were fun to play. But then again I never played beyond vanilla back in the day so all the expansions have been new to me and I don't have this irrational hatred towards Blizzard for things that happened a decade ago.

>classic

that's not how this works, blizzard.

>>715507253
>Raids were good
dragon soul had the worst end boss in the games history and the rest of the raid was also not great. tons of waiting around for thrall to circlejerk with the dragons

>>715506819 (OP)
i levelled my monk to 52 and am beyond burnt out should i just buy the boost at this point

>>715507182
>he was right but for the wrong reasons
He was right because people have been begging for changes since classic launched. Vanilla WoW is good in some ways, horrible in others.

>>715507338
>>715507182
did they go the runescape route yet? classic plus or wahtever?

>>715506819 (OP)
It's still censored to please the modern babies.

>>715507292
MoP is nearly as old as vanilla was when classic originally released.
anyway, all that "classic" means at this point is its a snapshot of a previous version of the game at the time of its release. it's nothing more than a branding term and people need to let go of whatever meaning they've ascribed to it in their head. it's ok to be a vanilla purist or whatever, but the classic being synonymous with vanilla ship sailed long ago.

>>715507314
>dragon soul had the worst end boss in the games history and the rest of the raid was also not great
On its own it's an alright boss imo. Definitely didn't hate it and the restr of the raid was pretty decent as well imo. Only the gunship kinda sucked.
>tons of waiting around for thrall to circlejerk with the dragons
I haven't even noticed this. Do you mean the cutscenes?

>>715507476
TRVKE

>>715507292
>>715507476
Draenor Classic next
Feeling old yet?

>>715507601
you mean Legion Classic waiting room?

>>715506819 (OP)
What's the point of Classic if it just turns back into a shitty WoW, but faster?

>>715506819 (OP)
How are the women, are they cute?
Can their models be exported?
And are the porn animators interested?

>>715506819 (OP)
i think this expansion's major problem is that it was good for the wrong reasons. the people that played wow in 2012 bought a game for medieval fantasy. this expansion was a fully committed CHINESE fantasy and it alienated the mostly white playerbase

>>715507658
To experience previous expansions.

>>715506885
funny how fast I went from I think I want this to I dont

an hour after hitting 60

>>715506819 (OP)
No thanks. I'm waiting for Legion Remix.

>>715507758
Anti weeb sentiment was also waaaaay more in effect and forceful back then. It was a retarded moment to drop a Chink expansion.

At this rate it’ll catch up to retail

>>715508102
bros i cant wait for BFA classic

>>715508102
Yes, and all classic characters will be transferred over to retail servers, the long con completed and my boy J. Allen Brack getting his revenge on those that ridiculed him.

SEX with FAT panda boys

Enjoy your endless dailies.

>>715508102
at the current rate it will take like a decade at least to catch up to retail. who knows what retail WoW will even look like at that point.

I just want to see some MoP based PVP. /v/ has hyped it up for YEARS. I swear during Legion it was all people would talk about.

>the class design was perfect!
>PVP was never in a better spot
>the class balance was perfection!

I know I'm not the only one here who remembers that. Well, faggots, now we shall see how good it really was.

>>715506819 (OP)
Can't you play this expansion in retail?
I thought the whole idea about wow classic was to play content that was removed after Cata.

>>715506885
As soon as they got away with level boosts and microtransactions shadowlands classic was set in stone.

>>715507624
Honestly if they dug up the abandoned design documents and implemented the scrapped WoD content, it would be the coolest move the company has made in decades.

I never realized but female pandas have a T H I C K body
I'm glad for all the r34 artists

>>715509939
I mean, you can go see the zones and stuff but it doesn't play anything like it did at release. MoP at this point is about as far removed from retail as it is from vanilla. the game has changed a lot since then. the point is to play the expansions as they were on release, with the same class design, with the raids being current, etc. you can't replicate that on retail.
there's like 6 versions of vanilla ongoing for people who wanna run around in the old world.

I'm conflicted about this, I really liked MoP but playing a "classic" MMORPG in my opinion. The entire point for me is the unseen future, the game evolving, having a character I progress and see all this with.
I already played MoP, I already know EXACTLY what updates we will get, I already know exactly what's in the world, the story and everything about it.

I won't have the feeling of playing it for the first time again, nor will I have any kind of hope/dreams of future updates as I know all about it.

>>715509939
Classes were different back then.

>>715509939
you could also go play TBC and Wrath content in retail but nobody complained about that. hell, you can go run Molten Core in retail right now if you want, but it doesn't capture the feeling of running it as a 40 man raid at level 60, does it?

>>715507314
Madness of Deathwing is a disappointing boss because of Deathwing's powerlevel and because it's the last boss of an xpack, otherwise it's not "the worst". Compare it to LK or Garrosh for a strong end boss.

Spine of Deathwing is 50x a shittier fight than Madness.
Cata in general has okay raids. People tend to have reverse-nostalgia for Cata because the revamp of the old world was questionable at times (haha more poop quests more popculture reference) and because Dragonsoul was really underwhelming, but it doesn't have more weak points than most other xpacks

>>715510198
I played MoP on pservers.
Its absolutely not the same experience.
Its still a nice experience though. I like MoP a lot I think its the peak of WoW.
Its fine to revisit it every decade or so desu.

>>715510319
Spine is based though. Utterly insane concept.

>>715506819 (OP)
>MoP
>Classic
What the hell is happening to WoW? I quit back when MoP was the latest expack.

10 days

>>715510487
it's been 13 years anon.
vanilla was 15 years old when classic came out in 2019.

>>715510682
I feel like the time period for the "classic" label should not be counter form present into the past, but rather be limited to a certain period from launch.

>>715506819 (OP)
No thanks I'll wait for the inevitable WoD Classic lmao

>>715510761
"classic" isn't a specific time period, it's just a re-release of an expansion the way it was when it was current.

>>715510870
>the way it was when it was current
Didn't they introduce a fuckton QoL updates from the modern WoW to the very first Classic version?

>>715510941
Not even close. SoD was a weird seasonal thing and the Classic anniversary servers only got instant mail on the same account and dual spec.

Classic Era is unchanged from the 1.12 version its based on, with 1 small exception. They added a thing to store world buffs so people can play during the week instead of grab them all and raid log.

This is one of the first cases where co-op is all but forced in their island expedition content releases. Watching minmaxers rape the meta of the Timeless Isle will be a new bar for content clusterfuckery.

>>715511442
timeless isle isnt that relevant for true endgame players.
its mostly just catchup. there's the legendary cape boss but he just works like a regular world boss.

>>715506819 (OP)
Are fucking worthless retards seriously this mentally ill?

>>715510781
Unironically looking forward to WoD classic since the only thing wrong with it was the huge swaths of time between content updates.

>>715512223
forced 20man raiding killed it.
10man or bust.

>>715511649
Correct, if you've been raiding Throne of Thunder HC you pretty much have nothing to do in timeless isle except the quick step for the leg cape, and kill Ordos once a week
it's unironically fun tho

>>715510319
people hate Cata because Firelands was delayed by one patch, was replaced by was literally 2 existing raids turned into 5m dungeons, and this troll patch bait and switcged the hope of actual troll content for the second expack in a row.
Also the ultra casuals got buttfucked by the increase in difficulty compared to wotlk even in 5m content, not to talk about the raids at launch.

>>715511649
>>715513014
That's my point.

>>715513014
well its a fun catchup island with stuff to do when you have alts or return to the game, which obviously beats LFR faggotry.

what they need to address in classic mop is legendary cape catchup desu. raising multiple chars or coming back late was cancer because you had to do all the steps.

>>715513210
you dont have a point. nobody will minmax a place that needs no minmaxing.

>>715513238
When minmaxers are all there is the whole point of the island becomes defunct. That's the point.
You're looking for an argument where there is none.

>>715513296
you are retarded.

>>715513372
ad homs are also not an argument. just admit your reading comprehension is shit

>>715513407
you dont know what an ad hominem is because you are retarded.
you spoke out of your ass and you got corrected and now you cant handle that.

>>715506819 (OP)
I don't get it.
Do they just rerelease the whole game again?
Why?

>>715513461
you can't even comprehend a sentence let alone correct it. and now you're attempting to gaslight on a definition you don't understand.
European, or Russian?

>>715513509
waste of time subhuman.

>>715513563
Got it. So I'm right and ad homs definitely apply here. Carry on, retard.

>classic
>oh but actually if you were looking forward to playing your class how it was in mop we nerfed it
>we also randomly gigabuffed a bunch of other classes just because

i hecking love mop remix bros!

>>715513504
because people play it. it's minimal effort for Blizzard and they make money, why wouldn't they do it?

>>715513594
the other guy is right, stfu

>the other guy
a schizo, too. how precious.

>>715513667
The devs are a bunch of bluesky retail players

Okay fine
Pandas are cute

>>715506819 (OP)
humiliation ritual you pay monthly for lol

>>715506986
Yes.

>>715514994
>not "It's Pover"
pathetic

Should I play Anniversary or Cata classic now? Anniversary shows to have way more players than cata now but I don't want my anniversary server to die too
I did play around when wotlkC prepatch was here and it was fun, levelled a guy to level 50 but it's on a dead server now so I'll need to start fresh

How long until wow classic 2.0?

>>715506819 (OP)
who the fuck wants to play MoP? lol

>>715516136
retarded junkies like >>715516118

>>715506819 (OP)
How the fuck can you call it "classic" when it's several expansions removed from the base game and only a few away from live? What exactly makes it "classic"?

>>715510538
We're almost home, lads.

>>715506819 (OP)
>giving nublizz even half a dime in 2015+5+5
lmaooo

>>715516227
I'm just a casualfag playing on and off for a decade

>>715507785
They're all there in the main game just play them you... you double-Thrall

>>715516345
so a retarded junkie that keeps relapsing, got it
>>715516298
there is a famous /vg/ guild and literally half of them are transexuals, the rest is incels and gays orbitting said transexuals. Its pathetic.

>>715516136
its the best part of wow

buy an ad maye

>>715516298
this. if you're not paying for your sub with the WoW token, you're playing the game wrong.

>>715516482
they must really be excited to take down girlboss Sylvanas and Le Jailor the mastermind who was behind everything since burning legion

>>715516351
>They're all there in the main game
playing MoP content in retail WoW is absolutely nothing like playing it as current content in MoP proper. do you think playing Molten Core in retail WoW is at all comparable to raiding it in vanilla? of course not.

>>715516539
I think it's all shit for mentally ill whales to be honest. If you haven't gotten off this boat by now you're going to die on it.

>>715516228
>several expansions removed from the base game and only a few away from live?
MoP literally released closer to vanilla than to retail lmao.
also it's "classic" because it's a snapshot of how the expansion was when it released. that's all that means. classic isn't synonymous with vanilla or any particular time period, it's MoP Classic as in a re-release of MoP, that's it.

>>715506819 (OP)
I only care about WoW because of the boatloads of feral druid porn based individuals have created over all those years, can somebody please explain WTF is there an actual need for a 'classic' edition of any MMOs from almost 2 decades ago that aren't UO and Runescape?

>>715515884
fake, no way on earth asmongold ends up living this long

Waiting for Legion remix instead.

>>715516876
>pedophile
>plays wow
iconic duo

>>715516228
expansion between vanilla and MoP: 3
expansions since MoP: 6

you niggas are stuck in a time capsule from 2019 lmao

>>715516876
ah yes, MoP Remix

>>715517241
That was really fun, I wish the secondary stats didn't cap out so quickly

A COSMOS DIVIDED

>the worst expansion
Kek
This is when the game opened the flood gates for chinks and Brazilians and became unplayable

>>715522154
???
TBC was the one made for chinks. literally why they added bloodelves.
WOTLK was also censored to hell for them.

Sorry, I'm sticking with FFXIV, it's free :)

i started a warlock on the mop sheilun private server!

>>715522754
But that's no an MMO

>>715524623
sis....

>>715524709
If you're even going to suggest going through all the expansions, it's because you're treating like it a single player game. Most people do.

>>715524826
Except they don't, they play with their friends/guild.
cope

>>715507369
>did they go the runescape route yet? classic plus or wahtever?
The season of discovery shit is technically classic+, but people hate it because the changes aren't appreciated by the players, the problem with making a classic+ is that the same people that keep sharting garbage on retail, will be the same people that will shart some garbage in classic, so you think you want a classic+, but you actually don't, at least not directly from blizzard.

>>715524917
Yeah, I'm sure they watch all those cutscenes together in their discord call. I hope you're getting paid well to post here.

>>715525132
>its daa shilllzzzzz
t.

>>715506819 (OP)
I wanna kiss that panda dude's cheeks but also don't wanna give money to shitzard
Luckily I'm not retarded enough to start paying for something you can get for free on private servers

>>715507253
>Cata raids were good
Some of the worst prog I've ever experienced.
I've seen so many people jerk off heroic rag but that heroic only phase is an rng riddled mess.

>>715525280
Everyone in that picture looks like a massive tool and/or a monster. How the fuck do Americans get that fat, it's insane.

Vanilla classic was played by people that wanted to play vanilla, and is still played to this day. Wotlk/Cata/MoP classic is played by retail players squeezing more out of their sub. It's a one-way thing.

>>715506819 (OP)
>layering

No. I'm not playing.

>>715509930
Yeah yeah I too heard that the PvP was so good. Unfortunately those who experienced it are those who have the stomach to play through the game first. Seriously, if you only engage in a single aspect of such a time-waster, just play another game man.

>>715527683
nobody cares m8.
you're not hard for wasting more of your time in molten bore.

I am already home.
Why are you here?

>>715528141
I'm not hard because I already finished with ur mom for the day kiddo

>>715528260
ywnbaw

We all know whats next. Are they gonna actually do it?

So what's the story of Mists of Pandaria? Do pandas just visit every powerful faction and go "Hey our island exists and it's ripe and pillageable. You should have a war there."?

BRING ON THE PANDAAAAAAAAS

>>715529756
The cataclysm uncovered china which was hidden away by the titular mists.
Anduin fucks off to china without telling daddy which makes him asshurt and he sends out a squad to get him back.
Garrosh hears of the alliance making a move to pandaria and gets EXTREMELY asshurt about it and sends a horde squad.
https://youtu.be/zUomeoGHvKM

The pandas want no trouble because they live on a cursed land that was raped by an old god corpse and whenever people lose control over their negative emotions some creatures appear from the ground and rape them.

So the alliance and horde arrive on that cursed land and hilarity ensues. In the very first zone they enslave local races and pit them against each other in a proxy war.

>>715530161
Oh fuck, how come nobody ever gives Anduin shit for this Teldrassil tier fuck up? He got an entire peaceful continent into their faction war.

>>715506819 (OP)
What's the point of calling it classic if they are just going to add all the expansions anyway?

>>715530337
its alright because at some point garrosh breaks every bone in his body for fun and leaves him as a puddle.
somehow he survives that though.

>>715530337
>>715530450
also he actually shipwrecked in pandaria or close to it but on the continent he acted like a slippery faggot and refused to go back to stormwind.

ultimately the alliance and horde factions are still needed on the continent because ancient chinese titan constructs awake from the cataclysm and start raping pandas again.
also nerubian mantis cousins start swarming and raping pandas and zandalari trolls show up because their capital is sinking (retconned by now).

cunny expansion

Anyone on Anniversary Classic excited for TBC later?

>>715531058
yes, everyone in my guild is talking about TBC because AQ40 is about to come out and all these boomers are about to get filtered hard

>>715507601
i'm tired boss

>>715531058
TBC was mid as fuck.

>>715531058
tbc sucks, clear kara then wait for 2.3-2.4 because all the middle is shit

>>715531708
This. Many people don't want to hear it because they started playing in TBC, but Kara is the only raid that's fun. The raids are all slogs with a handful of actually enjoyable encounters sprinkled in. Sunwell isn't all that bad as a whole but few people make it further than the first boss because Brutallus is a wall for 90% of guilds.

>>715531469
>>715531708
Honestly I just want to play dungeon, raids, and pvp. Which version should I play? I got a dwarf priest intended for dps to level 10, should I just reroll elsewhere?

>>715507182
apologize

Was MoP the only time monk was viable? They are always lowest on the dps charts since then.

>>715534439
WW was not great in MoP. Brewmaster was and MW too I think.
It was good in Legion if I recall correctly.

>>715506819 (OP)
I liked the panda leveling experience but god damn the wall of dailies you were met with to farm rep after leveling was awful. I lasted 3 days. It was so bad that I don't have the slightest fucking inclination to go back and actually experience this expansion. Just no.

>>715513238
Have you not met the classic playerbase or what?

>>715506819 (OP)
not really interested in classic mop, desu
if it was a pserver i'd play it (i played mop on stormforge and had a blast) but i have absolutely zero desire to interact with the mongoloids that play classic

>>715534563
MW was fun but pretty mid and unnecessary same as Druid, Disc Rsham Paly are all better.

>>715535336
mistweaver was nerfd in every MoP patch if I remember right.
they couldnt have been that bad.

>>715507065
They already did this with the anniversary.

>>715535462
it was mostly QoL stuff, ww and mw had an awkward tiger palm stacks buff they got rid of, fistweaving got redesigned in 5.2 which was arguably a downgrade

>>715506819 (OP)
I'M ABOUT TO RESUB SOMEBODY STOP ME

>>715506819 (OP)
I wish I had time to play these job simulators

>>715508102
Imagine the seething from retail bucks if they do just that and all those obscure items and cheevos from classic can now be transfered to retail.

>>715506949
i was in a guild from classic launch to wrath end and the only players that stuck around for cata are the lifers who play retail and will be playing some version of WoW every week for the rest of their lives

cannot believe they're really just going through the motions of re-releasing all the expansions one by one. Are they going to stop at pandaria or will they also do warlords classic lmao

>>715538285
i always thought they were gonna stop at wrath and call it the classic trilogy or whatever then relaunch them continuously for fresh

>>715538406
the real thing they should have done is some sort of classic+, finishing the content that was planned but was cut in the spirit of vanilla. I don't believe they have the competency required to do this properly, though. The most bland, corporate, least risky choice was to just keep pumping them out one by one, so that's what they did.

>>715516876
>Wow + loli
Holy kino

>>715538532
SoD was "supposed" to be that but ended up just being the playground for junior blizz coders to learn their jobs

>>715506819 (OP)
Would

>>715529435
What they need to do is WoD+, correct the timeline

>>715506949
It was always better than panda Chinky Caterland. Cata raids were good, H RAG was kino, dungeons were made harder everything was more or less balanced than Wotlk(DKs were finally brought in, ofc hunters were not but that’s the class that ruined wow)

>>715538726
SoD sounded like a great idea until they added so much unnecessary shit. Just straight up 1:1 abilities copied from modern. Did they ever make all of their new roles viable? I remember trying Healing Mage and being literally useless because I could cast maybe 2 spells before going oom.

>>715506819 (OP)
I have no interest in classic realms but I cannot imagine why you'd play MoP again when we JUST did MoP remix last year

>>715544468
the remix wasn’t real mop

>>715510538
I feel like Blizzard is going to try and fuck with this one. The UK just doesn't seem like a safe place to host a server