Wait I haven't looked at a Smash Ultimate tier list in a while, Mr. Game & Watch being so high is sick. And Pac-Man's good in this now? Maybe I gotta get back to it. King K. Rool being so low is sad though.

>subtle rainbow graphic
mnice fucking try trannies but you'll never make me transition no matter how hard you attempt i won't do it i won't do it fucking cope cause i won't do it

>Mr. Game & Watch being so high is sick
it would be if they didn't turn him into spam-master flowchart-user
melee gnw was so kino

>>715521212
meds

MY FUCKING HEROES in the top 3... and Minecraft Steve...

>>715521239
nice allegory for HRT troonybaloony but i won't do it i won't i know you wanna groom everyone into being trannies but i protect myself every day by waking up and reminding myself it'll never work

>>715521145 (OP)
As a G&W main, I can assert that the character requires very little skill, and that I am indeed bad at the game.

>>715521336
Listen man. You gotta relax. Not everything is meant to be an LGBT allegory. We’re talking about Smash tier lists, which have always been a colour spectrum going down the list. Queer people are just like you or I, they aren’t all awful people like you think. Get off this website if their mere existence bothers you that much.

>>715523013
is that how you get people to join you? "yes yes just accept rainbow things don't call them out just ignore them, after that accept me feeding you estrogen and put on the skirt, just ignore it dude" your type are all the same

>>715523093
That is not what I said at all. It’s perfectly fine if you aren’t queer yourself but you gotta learn to tolerate other people who are instead of generalizing them into one big bad stereotype.

>>715521212
>Heh, take that chuds! I'll play dumb and pretend to be a chud at the same time!

>roy, the close-range specialty character, is substantially better than chrom, the any range variant of roy
>lucina is substantially better than marth, the close-range specialty variant of lucina
>roy is better than lucina because his kit was designed around close ranged specialty whereas lucina wasn't
wow, smash ultimate doesn't really incentivize spacing in the way melee does, does it? marth is much better than roy in melee

>>715521145 (OP)
Banjo's too high, and Sora's way too fucking high.
Both should have a comfy spot just below Ganondorf.

>>715521145 (OP)
>Ganondorf the worst character in the game, three Smash Bros in a row
Sakurai really hates camel jockeys, huh?

>Mario is just outside the top 20
>Dr Mario is the third worst character in the character
I'm calling bullshit. The two characters are 99% identical by design. Even in Doc is somehow worse it can't be that dramatic of a difference.

>>715521336
>>715523013
>>715523093
>>715523201
Samefag

>>715523960
They're not. Dr. Mario can't jump and sinks like a fucking rock.

>>715524102
Nope. The idea of that being the case is actually pretty funny though.

>>715523580
Nah, Marth specifically was just over corrected. His sour spots are too weak, his sweet spots are too small, his combo game is only ok and reach creep has been a bitch to him. Lucina was just treated better.
Chrom only sucks because his recovery is worst in the game.

>>715523960
Only in Melee. In Ult they have very different playstyles and several unique moves. Doc was just made really bad, basically a heavyweight without the weight or reach.

>>715523228
No true Scotsman, eh anon?

>>715524102
>I REFUSE TO BELIEVE PEOPLE WHO DON'T SUPPORT MY WICKED SCHEMES ACTUALLY EXIST THEY MUST SECRETLY BE HECKIN VALID TRANSGIRLS
kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys ky.s kys kys kys kys k.ys kys ky.s kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys ky.s kys kys kys kys kys kys kys ky.s kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys. kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys

>>715525135

>>715525135
You good, man?

>>715523960
As a Doc enjoyer I can say with confidence that Mario is my least favorite character in the game because he is the literal mirror of what Doc could've been but they decided to slash every single stat of his in half instead and give him 10% more power in exchange as if that changes the fact that he dies from getting barely poked off the stage.
That said, I still do love him. I'll never stop playing Doc, tier list be damned.

>>715525135
Anon, I think you need to take some time off the internet. Go get some fresh air, or call your family and ask them how they're doing.

>>715525957
>yessssss anon just get off the internet and ignore us grooming kids on 4chan, when you return everyone will be a valid little itty bitty tranny stroking their widdol clitty and it'll be good and wholesome, just turn away and don't look while we do this!

>>715521145 (OP)
>third game in a row where Ganondorf is dead last
It's not fair, Ganonbros

>>715526103
>kids on 4chan
>kids
>on 4chan

>>715521145 (OP)
>pyra/mythra still very high
Again what makes them so good?

>>715525205
>>715525716
>>715525957
Stop giving obvious trolls what they want. He already proved he was samefagging.

>>715526219
Big hitboxes and good frame data are... le good.

>>715521145 (OP)
>zelda has great recovery, zoning, and statue to keep away opponents
>D tier

>>715526280
bro i know you dont wanna believe it cause he probably shares similar opinions to you, just expresses them with more insanity, but i'm sorry to tell you this, people like that actually exist

also i didn't see him "prove he was samefagging" what do you mean? not 100% saying he *can;t* be a troll, sure anyone can be, just that this is exactly how some earnest people on here think, especially weird tourists who fell into culture war derangement

>>715523865
>>715526138
Japan hates slow, heavy characters and likes quick, cheap characters. It's how they've been since forever, dexfags the lot of them.

>>715526427
Newfag

>>715526485
solid argument, 10/10, i'm p0wned now

>>715526569
You might be retarded.

>>715526219
I have to imagine have two entire characters with completely different movesets has something to do with it. Which is bullshit, by the way. Give me back Zelda/Sheik if you're just going to do it again with the fucking DLC, Sakurai.

>>715526379
Zelda's zoning is fake, she doesn't have a real win con that she can work toward by spamming statue.

>>715526427
>also i didn't see him "prove he was samefagging"
I think anon is referring to this pic >>715525135 where he shows that he's the 1st and 3rd poster

But it's obvious he is? Like we knew that already? So I wouldn't call that samefagging

>>715521145 (OP)
I can assure you that G&W being that high is in no way sick

>>715526103
>>715526427
this is the same guy

>Entire thread convinces himself the guy having a melty must be trolling because they can't accept someone who shares their beliefs being unhinged.

>>715526978
He's obviously all of those posts
>b-but muh screenshot
If you're that technologically illiterate you belong elsewhere

>>715527170
Hey I'm just clarifying, don't shoot the messenger

But also the guy throwing a fit sounds like a Sharty kid
I know it's easy to fake a screencap, but they usually don't have that level of tech literacy

>>715527108
what wrong with being unhinged you stupid chudcel fuckbitch, your delegitimising the struggles of every single neurodivergent queerfolk on our current PLANET
ugh, i cant with this, wheres my dilator

>>715527318
Ho boy imagine being this angry
Let me guess, if I say "Ok, now THIS is obvious bait" you'll pull the hypocrisy bit.

Seriously, you're butthurt that a man who thinks the same way you do isn't the most mentally well.... On 4chan of all places... Is your ideology such a large part of your personal identity that it sends you into a frenzy to know somehow who thinks the same might be a little loony?

>>715527318
yo he fumin

>>715527318
Leftists are mentally ill

Smash Bros?

>>715527318
Meds

>>715527318
In a way this falseflag makes the situation funnier because now our options are either
>This guy is clearly falseflagging but the other anon isn't
Or
>Both are falseflagging, meaning other anon is at least skilled at trolling and you're not

Can we go back to talking about Smash Bros now

>>715521212
>>715521336
fuck is wrong with these kids

>>715527608
>>715527719
here they come, here to push there alt-right, sexism-fueled, homophobia-induced bullshit directly into my fucking skull but guess what it wont ever work on me because i've spent 20 years waking up every day reciting to ourself trans-affirming wholesome messages

>>715527468
>>715527967
it's telling of the state of anon's brain since he saw a crazy motherfucker on /v/ and instead of thinking 'what a crazy motherfucker' he instantly viewed it through a political lens and decided it's an attack on his political siding
a normal person would just see a lunatic who has a certain political belief but someone who is knee deep in the political sauce instead sees politics first and a person second
not
>this guy is crazy, also he believes X but is being crazy about it
but rather
>this guy has been chosen to represent X and he's crazy, must be an attempt to subvert me!
so he immediately goes the childish route of trying to make anon see what it feels like if he did the same, except that thinking only makes sense if you believe there's some kinda political left vs right dichotomy here, as opposed to a mental case
or, you know, now two mental cases
i'm only really talking about this cause it's more fun than smash bros kek

>>715526138
I swear its just tradition at this point.

>>715527967
Ok, calm down, not everything is an attack on your gender identity. That anon was expressing his amusement towards some of the stuff happening ITT. Just a few fags posting in what was supposed to be a smashthread. You always turn your PC off it bothers you that much.

>>715521145 (OP)
Worth noting that some of these characters are "bad" because no good players are using them. Others are genuinely terrible despite many attempts to make them work (Banjo is a travesty of design).

>>715527318
>>715527967
>>715528286
bro this is pathetic

>>715528286
oooohh yeah! sure i'll do that while you and your little friend sit in your thread, pushing your man-o-sphere, redpill bullshit on kids browsing this board! every one of you polturds is the same cookie cutter motherfucker

>>715528534
>He's still going

Can we PLEASE go back to talking about Smash now

This thread is proof of what kinda damage is done when you let a child online since before they're old enough to hold the iPad you gave em and have their head filled with stupid identity politics

And this
>>715527318
>>715527967
>>715528286
>>715528534
is like watching a kid on the schoolyard angrily shout away from his friends who didn't let him play how much fun he's having with his 'other friends' as he's sat alone hoping they hear him

>>715521145 (OP)
>K. Rool bottom 6
Damn, what makes him so bad?

>>715528408
>OF COURSE I THINK ANYONE WHO DOESN"T IMMEDIATELY KOWTOW TO MY ALT-RIGHT MISINFORMATION IS ACTUALLY A HECKIN REDPILLED INCEL LIKE ME
die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die

>>715529056
Ok yeah there’s no way this guy isn’t ragebaiting

>>715529169
no shit he got so mad at the tranny derangement anon and convinced himself that it's some falseflag to subvert his "side" that he's trying to do the opposite
but it's so obviously fake all it's doing is making the other guy seem more credible

>>715529451
>>715529169

I don't even get why get upset at something like that
Like is it that hard to believe someone irrational can have the same political leaning as you? Or do you just have a persecution complex or what?

>>715529169
I get it, it's hard to face the fact that sometimes someone as bonkers as that guy share the same opinions as you, I understand, genuinely, not trying to shit on you.

>>715529539
>do you just have a persecution complex or what?
yeah thats probably it
look how he's responding with the same exact templated that were said to him >>715529550
that's a number one tell that someone feels victimized

>>715529451
>>715529539
>>715529550
What Smash character do you guys reckon he mains? I would say Duck Hunt.

>>715529789
idk probably whichever one someone told him sucks once in like 5th grade and he's just been passive aggressively going "TAKE THAT, DAVID" everything they play them out of pure spite

>>715529789
Kirby

>>715521212
Take your meds

>>715529056
so is this more or less deranged than the other guy? like that other one may be legit or he may be faking it, it's 50/50, but if it's a troll at least it's a convincing one and if it's legit then.. well, ok, maybe then there's no bright side, but i'd argue it's still at least comparable to throwing such a massive melty over it that you start doing this shit all over the thread

>>715528727
many people here have a stick up their ass about browsing reddit and let me tell you if you look fucking ANYWHERE it's high school cliques all trying to shame each other into submission with a few adults having a centrist opinion on a subject and being confused at why both sides hate them
>this place is magnitudes more sane than the rest of the internet even though it's full of mentally ill people

>>715530006
This guy is worse because the other anon already feels like a lost cause, this one was aaaaaaalmost normal until culture war outrage brain got the best of him and pulled him down to the 1st anon's level

Thoughts on Kirby?

>>715530152
kirby is alright i'd let the little guy eat me
not into vore or anything just to make him happy
like for a few minutes

>>715521145 (OP)
Can’t wait for the next version of the tier list where Mii Swordfighter jumps like 50 spots

>>715530350
glad he isn't considered a vore mascot all things considered

There's a phenomenon on here where anons will reply to the most blatant bait to fuel their view of the opposing side.

>>715530616
On one hand, true, most modern web users are huge normalfags with a side bias and it's the most cancer thing ever, hell even if someone is actually acting silly and isn't baiting, they can't just say "this guy is silly" they think it MUST either be representative of a political side of some kinda statement against one because nothing can just exist in and of itself
On the other hand, poe's law and all that

Overall I just hate what culture war shit has done to people

>>715530858
And yet you are its strongest soldier.

>>715530950
Ah, so your seemingly earnest post was just dishonest culture war faggotry all along

>>715521145 (OP)
I feel like these tiers have been the same for 10 years now

>>715531106
>why aren't you picking a side in my culture war? that makes me MAD
No thanks

>>715531235
Are you retarded or is this some shoddy attempt at trolling? I just said I hate the culture war, why are you under the belief that I must be lying? Is this some kinda normalfag manner of communication I'm too human to understand?

>>715531286
The only winning move is not to play, and regardless of what (you) say, you're still playing.

>>715531396
God why are normies such psychopaths
>Theehee I'm le winraring epic style by continuing to communicate with you, except secretly, I'm using my big brain powers to do it... LE IRONICALLY!
Fluoride in the water must've made you all deranged, I'm done with this

>>715531523
You're retarded.
Enjoy your stay, you're here forever.

>>715528863
His fat heavy ass makes him easy combo food, and like most heavy characters, his game plan mostly involves hoping you can predict your opponent's next move so you can try to catch them with an attack, or else you miss the read and are left wide open to get punished against faster characters.

But honestly, I got a suspicion that roughly half of this list is decided by how a character can respond to Steve and/or Sonic, since that's the majority of what's gonna challenge you in the competitive scene.

NIGGER

Why are rosterfags like this?

>Samus higher than Zero Suit Samus
Did Samus become good in Ultimate, or did they fuck Zero Suit up somehow?

>>715535271
Samus received a handful of buffs and ZSS' nair and up-b now take 2 more frames to come out.

>>715521145 (OP)
>third party
>third party
>third party
>not a real character
>toy, not a video game
>second party
>third party
>second party
>Min Min
This is Nintendo's best video game character?