Thread 715523179

>/v/ keeps saying it's irredeemable trash
>it's actually great and far better than the games /v/ likes
What's her name?

wirebugs are fun... has my two wives in it as well. desu i kind of don't care if they make it easier if the game is more fun because of it.

>>715523179 (OP)
Sunbreak is the best game in the series. Prior it was GU and before that it was Frontier.

Suzuki is the only person who can save Milds

I never got the sun break because base rise was so braindead wirebug spam wire fall zero danger whatsoever. The dog mount turned the game into zoomer adhd brainrot. The monster location being shown on the map before even being discovered made me laugh out loud. Every time i wanted to upgrade my gear i already had all the mats from a single hunt.
Rise completely butchered all soul, all weight, all deliberancy of the original games and turned it into
>accept quest
>kill boss in 5 min
>repeat
Every single rpg and worldbuilding mechanic was raped and trivialized. Rise is shit and will forever be shit. Monster hunter is a case study for why muh QOL is the death knell of every single gaming franchise it has ever infected

>>715523781
>rpg mechanic
What are you babbling about? There are no stats or "roleplay" mechanics, you just grind for gear, decos, and charms. Your "quests" are to kill monsters so you can get more gear, rinse and repeat.
>worldbuilding
It's the same, you kill monster.

>>715523781
This just reads like a mess of buzzwords typed by someone who never played MH.

>>715523781
Dogs were a terrible addition. Not because of the mount mechanic (which was fun), but because there is absolutely no reason to use cats over dogs. Completely sidelining one of the most iconic mainstays of the series.

You want the highest possible DPS? Dog.
Status? Dog. No contest.

Playing online? The monster is going to be dead before you catch up to it unless you have a dog to sprint and wirebug over terrain and across the skybox (unless you're subject to the world's worst invisible walls by the volcano map).

Solo? You're intentionally gimping yourself unless you have two dogs.

They would have been fine had dogs been given their own slot and treated as noncombatants unless mounted.
But alas, Japs love them some gimmicks.

>>715525719
Nah, I prefer cats. Love those stolen parts and the lottery box. Also, every dog user I've ever encountered has no idea how to actually traverse the maps.

>>715525719
They were also an optional addition

>>715523179 (OP)
Real fans of the series have always loved Sunbreak and hated World/Wilds.

Reminder that there are people here who unironically despise this game for no reason other than that watching the food cutscene makes them irrationally angry.

>>715523179 (OP)
Spiribirds and qurios augments fucked it up

>>715525719
But everybody takes cats with them on the hard fights when we play together since they constantly heal you.

>>715523179 (OP)
dota 2

>>715529826
bird collecting was basically nonexistent by the end since everyone preferred collecting and keeping arena quests
Augments were actually amazing in making every piece and weapon salvageable, just that the possible ceiling was soo high which likely caused alot of people to cheat in ridiculous rolls

Rise a shit

>>715523179 (OP)
I started with world and i loved rise. All the shitting on those games here made me ignore people shitting on wilds. I boughted wilds... I hate 4chan for crying wolf...

>>715529826
Why do you need more than the standard maximum HP value in what is supposedly the easiest MH game ever made???

>>715523179 (OP)
Currently playing Sunbreak and beat Garangolm and unlocked Citadel.

Game is hella fun.

>>715523781
this post is so fucking right, the most braindead boring base game ever
>>715523957
>>715525598
BIG COPE by ricies, your game is mid

>>715529719
>Menella ok the cover instead of Nadinia
What could have been...

>>715523781
Based rise sisters malding

Risebreak is a fun spinoff

>>715532058
Except it isn't a spinoff.

only troons hate risebreak because it actually has beautiful women

>go in with 0 expectations
>the village is great
>wirebugs are like the XX arts
>the music is great
>graphics aren't the best but the visual clarity, readability and sharp textures + the whole art direction makes it look beautiful
>high rank was a bit of a challenge by the end of it valstrax + apex
>rampages were fun for my group of friends
>go into sunbreak
>it's even better and the scrolls are fun to use
genuinely wish i would have tried it out earlier, i played worldborne again this year and didn't want to try rise until a friend convinced me
i still love XX / GU but sunbreak is definitely one of the best games in the franchise, wish it kept getting updates

>>715523781
They hated him because he told them the truth. What's more, you'll have people defending
>accept quest
>kill boss in 5 min
>repeat
because it's a portable game, despite the fact that 4 generations of portable games fared just fine with 20+ minute quests and actual game mechanics. This and GU are the worst monster hunter games to date.

>>715532731
>20+ minute quests
that was just you cus you're ass

>>715529826
augments are what salvage endgame builds from being the same 5 different meter management autism

>>715532731
The majority of MH games from both teams consist of 5-10 minute hunts. It's laughable how people give rise flak for hunts being over too quickly when it's WORLD that had a legit sub-MINUTE basegame elder dragon hunt.

>>715523781
>monster location being shown on the map before even being discovered
typical monster fart sniffing apologist worldbab

>>715532796
Yeah, I was, and because of that Freedom Unite was so magical. I barely knew English, nothing was explained in game, there were no shortcuts. You had to carefully choose the right gear, prep and craft beforehand, and once you were out on the map there was no bullshit between you and the monster. No bing bing wahoo bugs to catapult you across the area, no magical buff birds to increase your stats, no dog to autorun you to the monster, no fucking monster puppeteering and environmental traps to halve the monsters health and no fucking cat with the arsenal of MacGyver.

It's a shame you niggas will never experience being stuck on a monster for a whole month and finally killing it within an inch of your life and 5 minutes left on the clock. Instead you'll breeze through the village quest with the same armor you killed the first shitmons with and then have the gall to claim it's the best monster hunter because the combat is a downgraded version of DMC.

YWNBAH

>>715532534
>this is the average mh fan now
grim

>>715533483
The "average mh fan" is actually a worldfag who hates every other game in the series, especially Rise. Someone who's actually played GU is an outlier at this point.

>>715532534
>graphics aren't the best but the visual clarity, readability and sharp textures + the whole art direction makes it look beautiful
AHAHAHAHAHAHA KURWA

>>715532312
I mean, yeah, not stricty a spinoff, but more of a side game, like XX or Frontier (both also great btw)

>>715523781
>Rise completely butchered all soul, all weight, all deliberancy of the original games and turned it into
This but for world

>>715523179 (OP)
I'm more just angry that they wasted the awesome classic Universal / western horror theme on what was supposed to be nippon banzai

Fuck off japs, you have your own horror icons and folklore

What snack should I grab for the hunts?
I'm thinking a whole carton of Pringles or maybe just some chocolate milk.

>>715532058
It's the only good post GU game

>>715533482
your first MH game will always be the hardest
right now I'm playing Freedom and it is very easy to just move away of the basic ass attacks of the monsters lmao

>>715533482
Nice essay grandpa

>>715534321
Biggest challenge of freedom is dodging the collision hit boxes when the monster slowly turns around.

>>715534220
I would've liked them to make a Japanese G-Rank in the absence of P3rdG, but base Rise was already Japanese horror icons and folklore

>>715534023
>>715534268
Nah, let it be a spin-off. Let Monster Hunter be shit now, and let these good games stand apart from what it's become.

>>715534748
Hopefully next portable does something equally fun. Especially with how shit wilds has been

>>715534742
Hated this faggot in nioh 2

>>715534846
Precisely why it should go down the path of a spin-off. Imagine if they actually had to try adapting World and Wilds shit instead of continuing down the Generations/Rise route. We need it to properly diverge instead of being tied down by what the mainline team is doing.

>>715534023
I don't get where this "pretending that half of the main MH franchise isn't actually part of the MH franchise" meme came from. The only entries specifically regarded as spinoffs are stuff like stories or weren't made by theain teams like frontier/online.

>>715533743
you just proved my point?
>>715533483
been playing since 3u

>>715525719
>there is absolutely no reason to use cats over dogs
The dogs are worse for traversal on all maps (except arguably Lava Caverns) than Wirebugs are and therefore I saw no reason to ever use them.

>>715536261
I loved dogs, but I'm sure online and late game... nobody bring dog.

>>715535445
for me, at least before world, I considered those games "spin-offs" because those weren't numbered entries
after world... I dunno

>>715523179 (OP)
Base Rise was really shit and I feel like people just never let that stigma go despite Sunbreak being pretty good.

>>715529826
>Spiribirds
These were whole bunch of fucking nothing. You're only making things more annoying for yourself by actually going around and collecting them. Just pick up any in your path while going to the monster and that's it.

>>715538029
I thought it was underwhelming on release but after TU1 and the elders it was alright and just got better after valstrax release and having the apex monsters in arenas, which was just like 2-3 months after release I believe.

>>715538294
this, i barely had to use them for apex quests

>>715538294
If someone complains about spirit birds, I'm convinced they're an autistic retard who has to collect every item on the map. Or is genuinely bad at the game

What killed Rise for me is just how piss easy it is. They made the monsters faster but they'll still die in 5 minutes regardless. Plus I dislike how every new monster hunter keeps removing more and more of what gave the series its charm.

>>715523179 (OP)
it's ok. I love switch skills though, alternate movesets for weapons is what the franchise should be going for if they aren't going to give us a new weapon, but the wirebug stuff is kind of lame and the game has the worst iteration of mounting yet. also don't love the stat giving bugs, made all my camp rollouts very same-y

>>715523781
>braindead wirebug spam wire fall zero danger whatsoever.
>still spouting lie
it might as well be a copypasta at this point

>>715533482
>no fucking cat with the arsenal of MacGyver
>Free tools and status
>FU
Poser.

>>715538338
And that was only on the original switch version. PC and PS4/XBox versions of Rise released with all TUs already present, so the fact that the "incomplete" accusations continued into those versions of the game is very confusing.

>>715539529
Nigga you can't seriously believe the felynes in FU are in any way comparable to the palicoes post world

>>715536261
Anytime people complain about the dog you know they were shit at the game. Wirebugs were faster, especially once you got far enough to need spirit birds. Cats were more useful and got you extra parts. I was actually kind of disappointed at how bad dogs were.

>>715534023
I always saw XX as a "best of" from the old generations and a goodbye to it's older engine and format.

>>715539749
Of course they weren't efficace as they are since the 5th gen but it would be a lie to claim they had no utility

>>715523781
but enough about World

Ichinose is currently the only person that is capable of making a monster hunter video game and not a monster hunter movie.
He is the one that can save us from the mediocrity of world-esque titles, and if he drops the ball the series is done for since it'll be doomed to be a half-assed ecological movie sim for smooth brained tourist retards.