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Anonymous No.715529391 [Report] >>715529726 >>715529745 >>715530023 >>715530138 >>715530154 >>715531661 >>715531826 >>715532105 >>715532264 >>715532984 >>715533635 >>715533749 >>715534117 >>715534619 >>715534975 >>715535409 >>715536150 >>715540079 >>715540705 >>715541237 >>715543682 >>715546558 >>715546662 >>715546935 >>715547235 >>715549721 >>715552416 >>715553960 >>715554791 >>715556647 >>715558294 >>715558668 >>715559495 >>715568139 >>715569045
Bananza took eight years to make.

Nintendo will NOT be able to produce a follow up in a reasonable amount of time.
Anonymous No.715529726 [Report] >>715554791
>>715529391 (OP)
>I'm a nintendo expert because my uncle works there
Anonymous No.715529745 [Report] >>715533069
>>715529391 (OP)
This shit will be so ass
Anonymous No.715530023 [Report] >>715533069 >>715533885
>>715529391 (OP)
I don't know but it really looks like tendie slop to me, maybe it will be good but it's certainly one of the ugliest game Nintendo put out and the digging everywhere sounds a like a gimmick. I wouldn't be surprised if they shoehorned DK into an otherwise experimental project.
Anonymous No.715530138 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
Bananza also was finished back in 2021, if was shelved because EPD8 couldn't dumb down the game for Switch 1.
Anonymous No.715530154 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
Man, even Nintendo fell for long dev time shit.
Anonymous No.715530162 [Report] >>715531610
who the fuck is seanmalstrom?
Anonymous No.715530176 [Report] >>715530290
heavily doubt it
nintendo games are cheap as fuck to make, low resolution cartoony assets, barely any writing or voice acting, simplistic environments
it all seems like very simple code and the only hard working people there are really just level designers
Anonymous No.715530290 [Report] >>715531150
>>715530176
You base that off what exactly? can you compare it to another game
Anonymous No.715531150 [Report] >>715531638
>>715530290
my own eyes? nintendo has a consistent artstyle, they can recycle almost everything
they don't spend that much on voice acting, it's all cheap grunts
the game code? destructive environments may be somewhat difficult but it's been done to death by others already
that only leaves level design as the shit they actually have to work on
Anonymous No.715531610 [Report]
>>715530162
A Nintendo fan that fell out of love with gaming a long time ago but sticks around because he dedicated too much of his life to it. Basically, the average /v/ poster.
Anonymous No.715531638 [Report] >>715532369
>>715531150
Then your a retard and have zero understanding of gameplay design, mechanics and how they are made lmao.

>nintendo has a consistent artstyle
So does most companies you retard. Sony, microsoft etc.

> they can recycle almost everything
they don't spend that much on voice acting, it's all cheap grunts
voice acting is cheap regardless lmao and doesnt impact budget really at all. You think ben starr is some multimillion dollar actor?

You know nothing about game design lmao
Anonymous No.715531661 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
>Bonanza

And I won't read anything else
Anonymous No.715531826 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
>Shitting on Yoshi's Island

I hate boomers with a passion.
Anonymous No.715532105 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
>Didn't like Yoshi's Island
Opinion discarded
Anonymous No.715532264 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
>Sean malstrom
Isn't that the "I play games for CONTENT, not gameplay" faggot?
Anonymous No.715532369 [Report]
>>715531638
>So does most companies you retard. Sony, microsoft etc.
what
realistic isn't an artstyle and it ages incredibly rapidly
do you even fucking know what an artstyle is?
point is that nintendo has solidified what their marioverse artstyle is and they're undoubtedly already recycling it

>voice acting is cheap regardless lmao and doesnt impact budget really at all. You think ben starr is some multimillion dollar actor?
and putting shit in textboxes is even cheaper
their stories are the least complex shit on the planet, any tranny could write them

that only leaves doing work on level design
Anonymous No.715532414 [Report] >>715533169 >>715533521 >>715568074
I'd be impressed if any Nintendo game cost as much as 1/3 of a game like Spider Man or The Last of Us. Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom were made on AA budgets in comparison.
Anonymous No.715532772 [Report] >>715533347
Malstrom's been sperging a lot about Bananza. Which is kind of amazing, considering how much he used to emphasize 'Uh ACTUALLY I only loved Mario because of the WORLD."
Anonymous No.715532869 [Report] >>715535876 >>715554163 >>715556329
why does every game take almost a decade now what FUCK is wrong with modern devs
Anonymous No.715532984 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
No it didnt retard. The director didnt join Nintendo until 2020
Anonymous No.715533056 [Report] >>715547104 >>715548473 >>715561046
Mario Kart world also took 8 years. It just takes that long to make good games nowadays.
Anonymous No.715533069 [Report] >>715534619
>>715529745
>>715530023
Subhuman samefag sonygro
Anonymous No.715533169 [Report]
>>715532414
I think they said BoTW cost $100 million to make, the most Nintendo spent developing a single game. Since it sold over 30+ million, safe to say they made their money back
Anonymous No.715533347 [Report]
>>715532772
The dude needs to let go of video games because he's obviously over it. He should just stick to the games he enjoyed in his youth and indies that ape those games.
Boco !sCZ24qY6KY No.715533467 [Report]
Why would they? They would rather make something new anyway. The only time they make direct follow-ups like Galaxy 2 or TotK is because they had a ton of ideas left over.
Anonymous No.715533521 [Report] >>715552490
>>715532414
Both Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom were under B budgets.
Anonymous No.715533635 [Report] >>715533963 >>715534626 >>715548136
>>715529391 (OP)
>8 years to develop
>started development when the original Switch launched
>releasing as a Switch 2 launch title
>still has performance drops despite being on next gen hardware
Anonymous No.715533749 [Report] >>715534540
>>715529391 (OP)
I swear to christ, Nintendo's development teams are skeleton crews. There's no other excuse for this.
Anonymous No.715533872 [Report]
But tendies told me nintendo doesn't take 10 years to make a game
Anonymous No.715533885 [Report]
>>715530023
It won't be good, it'll be overrated, generic, open world slop. And of course there'll be 17million bananas in a level placed every 5 feet, that's the content.
Anonymous No.715533886 [Report]
>Americans measuring game quality in money
Anonymous No.715533963 [Report]
>>715533635
>>still has performance drops despite being on next gen hardware

lol this isn't next gen. This is a 2 generation old console.
Anonymous No.715534117 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
>Yoshi's Island
>a clusterfuck
How are these people paid to write this shit?
Anonymous No.715534364 [Report]
Whats the point in making a blanket statement about how long a games dev cycle is? Who knows how many people were working on it in various stages of development?
Maybe for 4 years its was just a few guys kicking around ideas in their spare time and experimenting.
Anonymous No.715534540 [Report]
>>715533749
There's a reason why there's a lot of excitement about Nintendo expanding their internal staff because their games ARE basically made with skeleton crews -- at least compared to the average AAA game.
Anonymous No.715534619 [Report] >>715562547
>>715529391 (OP)
it's the same for mario kart world
switch 1 game ported to switch 2
brown tendie jeets clap their hands like feral monkeys
>>715533069
subhuman streetshitting pajeetendie
Anonymous No.715534626 [Report]
>>715533635
Really less, it just got shelved because they couldn't dumb down the game for Switch 1.
Anonymous No.715534975 [Report] >>715535054 >>715535262
>>715529391 (OP)
>Nintendo games are approaching the same level of developer hell that modern AAA titles have, despite not being anything close to AAA as far as spending, team team size or graphics go
He's kind of right. This, Mario Kart World, Metroid Prime 4 and Zelda ToTK don't bode well for the future of Nintendo development cycles.
Anonymous No.715535054 [Report] >>715535424
>>715534975
kill yourself
Anonymous No.715535262 [Report] >>715535424 >>715536062
>>715534975
>All of these critically acclaimed, high selling titles are an indication that Nintendo will FAIL!

At what point will people start admitting that TOTK was a huge success? It's on the Switch 2 Best Sellers list right now.
Anonymous No.715535409 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
>Yoshi's island
>clusterfuck
what did he mean by this.
now, the transformations in that game really are mostly pointless, but they don't make a dent in the overall game
Anonymous No.715535424 [Report] >>715535545
>>715535054
No.
>>715535262
MK World and ToTK sold well but were met with mixed reception at best by fans. This doesn't bode well for the longevity of Nintenod's IPs.
Anonymous No.715535482 [Report]
another Eric thread
Anonymous No.715535545 [Report]
>>715535424
Ah yes .Because Zelda II was such a huge bottleneck for the franchise going forward.
Anonymous No.715535614 [Report]
>Yoshi's island
>Bad
I'm tired of boomers seething
Anonymous No.715535876 [Report]
>>715532869
Either bloated developer teams suffering from shitty management, small dev teams with bloated ideas biting off more than they can chew, or suits forcing devs to play things too safe, which results an an indecisive creative process where said devs don't want to hold accountability for any fuckups.
Anonymous No.715536062 [Report]
>>715535262
I’m glad my friends at Nintendo took 6 years to make dlc that’s making them money since they’re charging $80 for it. I don’t care about playing games that aren’t cheap copy pastes in the near future. What’s important for me is Nintendo making money.
Anonymous No.715536092 [Report]
You lost Eric
Anonymous No.715536150 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
>instead of refining mario odyessy we get WOKEy kong
nintendo are retards
Anonymous No.715538440 [Report]
Bump
Anonymous No.715539697 [Report] >>715540924 >>715541020 >>715547276
Wait are people still pretending Switch 2 has no games?

Mario Kart World was stupidly successful, what are they on about?
Anonymous No.715540079 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
Eight Years a Kong
Anonymous No.715540705 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
>Bananza took eight years to make
Damn this game is going to be a masterpiece then
Anonymous No.715540924 [Report] >>715541145
>>715539697
MKW was bundled with the Switch and it seems like most of the Switch 2 units were the bundle. What will matter is the attach rate. If its below 85%, then it means Switch has the PS5 curse where nothing fucking sells. Its worse for Nintendo since they aren't a Fortnite machine like PS5 is.
Anonymous No.715541020 [Report]
>>715539697
> Wait are people still pretending Switch 2 has no games?

>Mario Kart World was stupidly successful, what are they on about?

That's GAME, singular. Not GAMES, plural. Besides all the brainwashed modern Nintentrannies that bought the 80 dollar intermission track game are already starting to get tired of it.
Anonymous No.715541145 [Report]
>>715540924
>Nothing fucking sells

Is that why Bananza and Tony Hawk are topping the sales charts right now?
Anonymous No.715541237 [Report] >>715541384
>>715529391 (OP)
Why do games took so long to make now a days? Don't tell me is because is harder now, back then as primitive as they looked games where state of the art and still you got a trilogy in a single generation.
Anonymous No.715541384 [Report]
>>715541237
>Give me an answer to 2+2 = 4 but don't say 4
Anonymous No.715543682 [Report] >>715546083
>>715529391 (OP)
>Revolutionary for its time graphics and gameplay
>Used state of the art (for its time) technology
>Singlehandedly invented an entirely new genre of video game
>Set the standard for 3D character movement years before the industry did
>Devs went in and did all of this without any pre-existing reference point
>Development Time: Three Years

What the hell happened to Nintendo
Anonymous No.715546083 [Report] >>715546209
>>715543682
Tears of the Kingdom has to be one of the more disgraceful devtime:end-product ratios. 6 years for a goddamn glorified expansion pack, and to top it off they decided that it merited a price hike.
Anonymous No.715546209 [Report] >>715546734
>>715546083
I put hundreds of hours into TOTK.
Anonymous No.715546558 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
Can we report journos sharing their own shitty articles here?
Anonymous No.715546605 [Report] >>715552808 >>715555373
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT NOTICE
The source is Motokura and all he said was
>"I can't give you very precise details, I can tell you that we started developing it after finishing Super Mario Odyssey,".
This is not confirmation of 8 years, this only means it went into development after Odyssey was complete. It also doesn't mean that they entered active development immediately after Odyssey either.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT NOTICE
Anonymous No.715546662 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
>mario odyssey 2 died for this shit
fuck this gay earth
Anonymous No.715546734 [Report] >>715555004
>>715546209
And there are subhumans with over 10k hours in DOTA
What's your point?
Anonymous No.715546935 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
Game looks like shit, what are they doing and how the fuck are they that incompetent? I thought it was like 3 years at most and something they were rushing out just to have something close to launch.
Anonymous No.715547104 [Report]
>>715533056
World is worst Mario Kart and this bodes extremely poorly for the future.
Anonymous No.715547235 [Report] >>715547421 >>715547924 >>715552335
>>715529391 (OP)
8 years and this is the best animation work they could put out?
Anonymous No.715547276 [Report] >>715551287
>>715539697
World is successful in the same way Horizon was successful, inflated pack-in numbers. It is not a good Mario Kart and Nintendo bitchslapped their community for trying to do what they could to enjoy it.
Anonymous No.715547397 [Report]
BABE

NEW NINTENDO FUD THREAD JUST DROPPED
Anonymous No.715547421 [Report] >>715548802
>>715547235
Forget animation, and beanmouth kong, the game just looks like rancid dogwater. It is actively unpleasant to look it and has the visual fidelity of a wii u title. How the hell could this take them 8 years?
Anonymous No.715547924 [Report]
>>715547235
I just don't like his tongue being out so often, it's kind of gross. I get trying to make Donkey Kong more expressive but there's such a thing as going too far.
Anonymous No.715548136 [Report]
>>715533635
Gens don't mean better performance anymore
Anonymous No.715548473 [Report]
>>715533056
i feel it would've had less dev time if they didn't try to make it work with the Switch 1 same goes for bananza
Anonymous No.715548802 [Report] >>715549139
>>715547421
it started as a switch 1 game i'd imagine a lot of the dev time went in to "how the fuck do we make sure nobody's switch fucking explodes during gameplay"
Anonymous No.715549139 [Report]
>>715548802
It is highly concerning that this game took them this long without even being designed to make use of more modern hardware. It really does not bode well for the future. Nintendo's games will either continue to look like this or worse or they'll take even longer.
Anonymous No.715549192 [Report]
You can't even wait until the game is out before shitting your pants and autistically screeching? Nintendo derangement syndrome should be added to the list of mental illnesses at this point.
Anonymous No.715549721 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
So it could've been a Wario game with loli anyone?
Ashley or something?
Anonymous No.715551287 [Report]
>>715547276
You can't really say that. Horizon was packed in for free, most Sony games are.
When they aren't they end up failing or selling, much, much less
Anonymous No.715552335 [Report]
>>715547235
I still don't know why this clip in particular keeps getting posted. There's stuff from the reveal trailer that looks worse
Anonymous No.715552416 [Report] >>715552531
>>715529391 (OP)
BOTW also took about 10 years to make. They put out an expansion in 3 years.
Anonymous No.715552490 [Report]
>>715533521
Breath of the Wild cost $200 million to make.
Anonymous No.715552531 [Report] >>715552673
>>715552416
>They put out an expansion in 3 years
?
TotK took 6 years.
Anonymous No.715552673 [Report]
>>715552531
The game didn't really start development in earnest until 2019, COVID complicated it, and they sat on it for a year because of Elden Ring
Anonymous No.715552808 [Report]
>>715546605
More people need to see this. It's interesting that OP did not link the source
Anonymous No.715553960 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
Hory heck
Anonymous No.715554163 [Report]
>>715532869
Dev hell. Which is pretty funny, considering how shitty tendo games look. There's no fucking way those things take more than a year to make, if you already have the story and game mechanics nailed down, already..
Anonymous No.715554791 [Report] >>715555373
>>715529391 (OP)
I love these threads that tell you how things work behind the scenes. the awful truth always makes tendie manchildren seethe like >>715529726 so hard
Anonymous No.715555004 [Report]
>>715546734
based brownoids with good game taste
Anonymous No.715555373 [Report]
>>715554791
see >>715546605
Anonymous No.715556329 [Report]
>>715532869
It takes like 4-5 years. Nintendo doesn't outright cancel games as much as Sony or Microsoft does. If it doesn't seem viable at the time then it'll get shelved until they can feel comfortable making it. Miyamoto said Pikmin 4 was in development in 2015 and it almost certainly started development on the Wii U and got shelved until it restarted development on the Switch. Metroid Dread was a DS game that got shelved until they brought it back for the Switch. It's not the same as games being in dev hell for 10 years.
Anonymous No.715556647 [Report] >>715558817
>>715529391 (OP)
Yoshi's island was a masterpiece!
Egg this dude.
Anonymous No.715557771 [Report]
>liying about the cost of botw because he can't accept that sony made a half a million dollar flop they had to refund everyone
lol lmao
Anonymous No.715558294 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
This dude is making a shitload of wild assumptions from the simple fact that Bananza started development after Odyssey.
Anonymous No.715558668 [Report] >>715558958
>>715529391 (OP)
WHERE IS THE FUCKING SOURCE?
Anonymous No.715558817 [Report] >>715558946
>>715556647
yoshis island was garbage
the entire yoshi series has been the worst 2d series in nintendos catalogue
id rather play a LBP game than a yoshi game anyday
Anonymous No.715558946 [Report]
>>715558817
Why?
Anonymous No.715558958 [Report]
>>715558668
The link is right there, just go there and click on the source button.
Anonymous No.715559495 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
1. Starting development 8 years ago doesn't mean it was actively developed for 8 years
2. Every launch game in history started development on previous hardware. That's how game development works.
Anonymous No.715561046 [Report]
>>715533056
These articles just take the "began development in <year>" and assume it had been actively worked on for the entire time.

But Nintendo has a habit of shelving games, sometimes for years, to release them when they think the time is right.

Many of these games were probably finished in like 2020 or something but they found that the performance was unacceptable so they just shelved these games until they had the Switch 2 specs figured out and then simply returned to these games, improved a few things and that was enough. That took them maybe 6-12 months on top.
Anonymous No.715562547 [Report]
>>715534619
>pajjetendie
Pejeets are snoys
Anonymous No.715565028 [Report]
What time does it go up
Anonymous No.715565951 [Report] >>715566853
I will say that I'll give Yoshi's Island another go one of these days just because I've seen it dickrided hard enough, but when I first played it last year it just didn't do anything for me after giving it a go for a few levels. Wasn't really feeling it. Not sure if I care to 100% it either which it seems the game is designed around doing from what I've gathered. Recently I played Crash 1-3 and I was fine with doing it there but I think just the basic gameplay feel (on YI) didn't appeal to me for some reason.
Anonymous No.715566853 [Report] >>715567098
>>715565951
The reason is that YOU ARE GAY.
Anonymous No.715567098 [Report]
>>715566853
Pretty sure that's Super Mario Galaxy.
Anonymous No.715567274 [Report]
>Motokura: Well now... In a long-running series, novelty and continuity are both important, but we wanted this title to fully convey the appeal of Donkey Kong as a character. Meanwhile, we thought that by creating something new, leveraging our experience developing 3D Mario games, we'd have the opportunity to create two separate branches – 2D Donkey Kong and 3D Donkey Kong – just as we did with Mario games. So, keeping in mind that this game will come to symbolize 3D Donkey Kong, and with the theme of bringing Donkey Kong's strengths and new actions to the forefront, we thought the concept of “destruction” would be a good fit.

https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/ask-the-developer-vol-19-donkey-kong-bananza-part-1/?srsltid=AfmBOoohxNZvzFDpoL11V4z9CaQcatirNLPiF7Ugq_GaVGUSoKUTZydz
Anonymous No.715567380 [Report] >>715567431
I hate open world so much
Anonymous No.715567431 [Report] >>715567516
>>715567380
Good thing Bananza isn't open world, it's just got big levels
Anonymous No.715567491 [Report]
That's how long it takes to make a masterpiece.
Anonymous No.715567516 [Report] >>715567605
>>715567431
We call that 'open world' anon.
Anonymous No.715567605 [Report]
>>715567516
Maybe if you're stupid
Anonymous No.715568074 [Report] >>715568228 >>715568241
>>715532414
According to an investor call near when it came out, they said BotW needed to sell 2 million copies to make it's costs back and was their most expensive game ever at the time.

Nintendo has said that they view most games being financially successful if they can sell 1 million copies, obviously some need more and others less. So it's likely their typical "bigger" release is around 1/4 that of a bigger "AAA" game at most.
Anonymous No.715568139 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
They wont. Because DK will not sell as good and quick as Mario Odessy.
Anonymous No.715568228 [Report]
>>715568074
And that's great. Nintendo knows how to budget.
Anonymous No.715568241 [Report]
>>715568074
>Nintendo has said that they view most games being financially successful if they can sell 1 million copies
If only every dev/publisher would be happy with that being the baseline.
Anonymous No.715569045 [Report]
>>715529391 (OP)
Posting Sean Malstrom articles on /v/ should be a bannable offense. The OP knows Sean's takes are always incendiary and abysmal so he spams these frequently in order to rile up posters.
Anonymous No.715570445 [Report]
Seeing Sean Malstrom use terms like “slop” is honestly kinda sad. His incendiary blog posts used to at least be well worded and somewhat thought out, now they’re indistinguishable from your average /v/ post.