Thread 715536891

>Junpei, if we you don't open that door in 5 seconds, our heads will explode
>By the way, did you know the Titanic had a sister ship?

Your chunk of meat...

This entire game did not make sense.
I do not understand how the story is praised so much, is it literally just because at one point you turn your DS upside down? That it?

>>715536891 (OP)
Junpei died a virgin in several timelines.

>>715537621
There’s a reason Zero Escape bombed in Japan.

>>715537743
Because nips have dogshit taste?

>>715537621
Its aggressively stupid so its fun. If you dont take it seriously its pretty good. Theres literally a character named santa.

>>715537621
It was great until time travelling shenanigans happened

>>715536891 (OP)
Clover best girl

>>715537621
It's a bootstrap paradox

>>715537895
>Theres literally a character named santa.
Actually... I'm Santa

>>715536891 (OP)
I hate Akane so much. But as I grow older I start to hate Junpei even more for being a simp.

I knew you would do that.

>>715538429
>Santa
Kek'd & witnessed by junpei

I blew through this series in the span of like two-three weeks and really enjoyed it mostly. I definitely remember feeling somewhat let down by the direction of the last one in spite of the complex motivations.

>>715536891 (OP)
>THE GIGANTIC!
>ICE-9!
>ZODIAC SIGNS!
>A GIANT DATA SERVER STORING EVERYONE'S THOUGHTS OUTSIDE THEIR BODIES!
>FUNYARINPA!
>OUR PET RABBIT FROM KINDERGARTEN!
>FACIAL BLINDNESS!
>TIME TRAVEL!
>ALIENS!

I wonder if Akane likes me.

>>715538104
Hated her design change

>>715539049
the trauma made her become a slut

>>715537621
its a well paced VN which was something that was rare in the west

>>715537621
you need an iq higher than 95 to enjoy 999
>>715538974
Yeah I was kind of hoping that ZTD would kind of tie VLR and 999 together (wtf happened to snake/santa etc) but they blew their load with the whole radical 6 killed 6 grillion goyim on earth! bit.

>>715537621
>This entire game did not make sense.
It will all start to make sense once you play the next game! :^)

>>715539198
She was always a slut anon

>>715537621
it's *hardly* time travel, the "plot twist" is that you're playing as Akane in the past using her PSI to view branching paths of the future to find the one in which Junpei manages to correctly solve all the problems in the testing facility to survive the incinerator. VLR is the game that *actually* gets goofy with time travel (I still like it though)

>>715539553
Only for her brother.

>>715539049
>ICE-9
This one always fucked me up. I cant tell if they were just being funny or genuinely thought that was a good idea

>>715539637
wdym? the idea of ice-9 existed before 999, they didn't invent it

>>715540231
I had never heard of it until then and I was young but it sounds goofy as shit anon

>>715539049
you forgot about the best one
>SNAIL!

>>715538583
crazy how each entry managed to be more entertaining than the last, ignoring everything else

>>715540278
I guess, it's just a variant of grey goo except with a bit more scientific jargon slapped on top to move it from B-movie horror story idea to sci-fi B-movie instead

17 years ago.. a sexy snail lived a completely different life

>>715540413
idk ZTD was kind of boring to me, we're already fundamentally familiar with half the cast, luna and carlos are boring and the entire Q team is just annoying. The only interesting character was Delta who was kept out of 95% of the game for the purpose of being the deus ex machina. ZTD is just a rehash of VLR with zero of the inter-character drama and mystery which was what carried VLR

>>715540307
I forgot how unfair life is...

>>715539049
I hold that ZTD may be the most Japanese sci-fi plot ever conceived of, and I include anything Metal Gear related in that statement

>>715536891 (OP)
Can Uchikoshi go back to making good games again? It's been 13 years

>>715536891 (OP)
i still dont understand how she's there but also dead but also you control her in the past to save her even though she's alive in the present

>>715541345
New game in 9 days bwo

>>715541440
Consider watching Back to the Future.

>>715541443
I specifically said "good games"

>>715541345
I never got why the AI somnium games couldn't have just re-used the whole "puzzle escape room" aspect of the zero escape games. You'd think it'd be even easier to justify it than VLR/ZTD because they don't need to work in some weird premise for forcing you to solve puzzles to progress
>uh yeah people subconsciously hide things in their minds, that's why their brains are escape rooms or something
the "puzzles" in the somnium files fucking suck

why did it do it bros?

>>715541440
You're playing as Akane 9 years ago, looking through the morphogenetic field to find the one timeline where she survives. In the bad ending timelines, she disappears because of a time paradox meaning she couldn't have been there in the first place (the warning sign of this is her fever getting worse, because of the incinerator she died in). When she finds the right timeline, she's able to receive the answer to the sudoku puzzle from Junpei and escape the incinerator, completing the time loop and allowing the timeline where she survives to exist in the first place. Google 'bootstrap paradox'.

>Digital Root starts playing
>characters start talking about urban mysteries
So good.

>>715541597
i'd find them much more tolerable if there just wasn't a time limit associated with them. as it is, you're at best just making somewhat educated guesses, and guessing wrong enough times just forces you to waste more time. it's a shame too, since there's some legitimately good banter between aiba and date if you deliberately pick some wrong options, but the fact that there's an actual negative consequence for it dissuades you from seeing them

People love it but VLR is where the problems of the series started. 999 just uses the morph field to transmit information only across distance, time, and timelines which is why a lot of characters will bring up trivia that is relevant to the plot but that they don't know where they heard it. VLR changing that to be the transmitting of consciousness was a big tonal shift even without taking into account the millions of consciousnesses that get pushed out into bad timelines and are forced to suffer the consequences of choices they didn't make

>>715544304
VLR is without a doubt where the issues really starting appearing and even if some of those are hindsight, we still have stupid shit like pic related

>>715542327
Someone put it there to prevent an even worse disaster

have you guys been watching the shorts for AITSF:NSFKD which is releasing in 10 days and im totally not a paid spike chunsoft shill?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKnkrwtY3Us

>>715544304
>>715544690
the virus that makes everyone not realize they were on the moon was truly rad

>>715537895
>>715537621
You guys are retarded it makes complete sense.
You are just too dumb to get it.

>>715537621
It's better than Reddit's Gate.

>>715537895
He's named "Santa" because "san" is "3" in Japanese. Other characters also have different pseudonyms in Japanese. Ace is "Ichinomiya" ("ichi" = 1), Snake is "Nils" ("ni" = 2), Lotus is "Yashiro" ("ya" = 8), etc. I don't know why they decided to keep his name in particular.

>>715545863
chances are they kept Santa's because they couldn't figure out a three related name for it and Santa is already a name english speakers are familiar with.

>>715539574
I haven't played in a decade at this point but wasn't it the ship you're on is actually a recreation that has been set up as a perfect match so that Akane in the past can survive the original accident by copying you? I don't even remember VLR but for some reason I still feel like I enjoyed it more than 999.

>>715538104
I am still seething about a decade later from getting the axe ending first. Especially since you still get it despite comforting her if you forget to ask about ALL ICE in one of the rooms. Crazy evil bitch.

>>715544304
I forgive it because the puzzles were very fun. Just the level of challenge I want as a midwit.

>>715540809
>luna and carlos are boring
Carlos is literally the best and by far the funniest character in the entire cast

>>715542327
he had to do what he had to do

Made it. I played this game. Very sad.

>>715546252
The building copy of the ship already existed in the First Nonary Game. All the "transmitter" children were supposed to be in the building sending the solutions to their "receiver" siblings on the actual ship, but something went wrong and Akane ended up the ship with her brother. So she had to rely on future Junpei as the "transmitter" when trapped alone in the incinerator.

>>715544304
Sure, but it was still a great sequel. It should've ended there.
>millions of consciousnesses that get pushed out into bad timelines and are forced to suffer the consequences of choices they didn't make
That's what ZTD invented. You aren't playing as single Sigma jumping through timelines and switching places with your alternate selves. It's the player switching the timelines between all the different Sigmas across them. It like in 999 when Junpei remembers the code to the coffin only after you do the coffin ending first. There's no consciousness swapping of any kind.
The only instance of this in VLR is when old Sigma swaps with young Sigma in the past
I hated when in ZTD it suddenly everyone could do it even a total noob like Carlos