Thread 715537090

>Game of the Year 2014
>15 000 000 copies sold
>Bioware's best selling game of all time
>is now not the most recent, therefore /v/ is allowed to like it

Dust settled out of 10?

>>715537090 (OP)
Still fucking terrible, I actually like it less now than when it came out.

>>715537090 (OP)
Bioware went to shit around Dragon age 2 and that's final.

it's solid 6+/10

>>715537090 (OP)
thie game was absolute dogshit. no clue why anyone claimed to like it.

>>715537090 (OP)
because back then everyone thought it couldn't get worse. oh how naive and clueless were we all.

i didn't realize this game was disliked until i came to /v/. contrarian faggots.

The only good Dragon Age game is Origins.

>>715537090 (OP)
It was the best game that year, but it was a pretty bad year

>>715537531
The narrative on /v/ was that there is a Dragon Age vs Witcher rivalry.
And since Witcher 3 ended up being very good (for what it is), it therefore was concluded Dragon Age 3 was very bad (in comparison).

>>715537090 (OP)
The elf girl is one of the worst characters ever made and the gameplay is MMO trash.

>>715537598
Dragon Age 3 came out and was determined to be pure shit well before Witcher 3 came out

>>715537090 (OP)
It was sorely lacking NB representation.

>>715537671
Dragon Age 3 had active threads 24/7, a lot of OC made and posted, and basically the common wisdom was that the first part is a cencelled MMORPG level that you should rush past, and it gets good.
It was only determined to be irredemable utter shit that nobody likes in retrospect, after TW3 came out and it was the same thing, but better.

>oily, greasy-assed elf with a perpetual bitchy college girl face
>the qunari tranny (literally named BVLL)
But somehow, Dragon Age got worse

>>715537090 (OP)
>15 000 000* copies sold
>*98.887% at 2 dollars per copy or less
Great success...

>>715537828
so did TLOU2

did /v/ like TLOU2?

>>715537090 (OP)
Compared to Failguard, it was kino. On its own, the fetch quest MMO nature of it still sucked dick. Corypheus was a lame villain, reducing the orlesian capital to one shitty market square was gay as fuck and the resolution to mages and templars was equally giga gay.

>>715537090 (OP)
If they cut out 60% of empty open world slop, it would have been a decent game. As it is, its mediocre at best

>make hotbar MMO
>only give you access to eight skills at a time
>this is apparently hardcoded so no one has been able to mod it
retardation

>>715537090 (OP)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2447740/

>>715537090 (OP)
6/10
Cassandra is a ugly butch lesbo with a50 brownoid eyes, short hair, and a manjaw and a smoker voice
Josephine is lesbo-coded and brown, but at least her eyes are hot and she looks somewhat conventionally attractive if you are into horse faced girls which I am.

Compared to Morrigan and Leliana the gigastaceys in the first game it just can't compare. Inquisition was the first tumblr-coded major RPG and is the one that led to downward spiral and middle aged fat woman slop that followed. The only good thing about the game is that you can play it as an MMO and just grind while listening to decent ambient music and enjoying the lush environments, beyond that the main part of the bioware meal which is story and characters is complete dogshit for anyone who's not a woman that likes gay/lesbian stories and fifty shades of gray and twilight coded slop romance with Cullen and Solas

>>715538059
consoles

>>715538170
>Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn released on Playstation 3 on August 27, 2013

>>715537531
It's always like that on /v/. You come here thinking people are just gonna be shitposting about how much they love or hate something ironically, then you realize half these guys have had a vendetta against anything post-2010 Bioware for a decade straight. I had fun with Inquisition. Was it bloated? Yeah. Was it the worst thing ever made? lol no. But daring to say "it was okay I guess" here is like spitting in a cathedral.

Was he DEI or cool?

>>715538473
literally who

>>715537531
Normalfags started shitting on DAI the moment TW3 came out

>>715537090 (OP)
i mean this game was very good, enjoyed it. sera is my wife.

i mean, they should ve made more bosses. combats are nice, but needs lots of bosses, and need some "completition" of areas. like, i ran on area, gather shits, doing quests, and them i complete some cool quest, kill some boss, and area marks as "completed", that would be nice.

>>715538357
You were just a child and Inquisition was one of the first games you ever played so you love it, or you are a woman, or you are gay. In any case nobody hates you for having shit taste, you can't help your life circumstances, but you shouldn't think people are just hating on modern BioWare games out of malice, most of the hate comes because they loved the old games like KotOR, or ME1, or DAO, or even BG1/2, and BioWare became completely alien and contrarian to their past with Andromeda, Inquisition, and worst of all Veilguard, so people feel offended that they shat on their old customers.

>>715539139
Bioware stopped making games that sell less, and started making games that sell more. Then talent left, and they went to shit. But it is obvious the majority of people think Mass Effect is better than KotOR. They buy it more. They talk about it more. Action is liked more than turn based tactics.

>>715537090 (OP)
it's one of the worst games I've ever played, true console slop trash with zero and I mean *ZERO* depth of any kind.

>>715537090 (OP)
It's their last good selling game because people preordered that piece of shit and never trusted bioware again.

>>715539268
Nobody cares about the gameplay in BioWare games chief, KotOR is a very braindead game, most people enjoy it because of the atmosphere, sense of adventure, fun writing and great companions, which is kind of the core of BioWare's style. If Veilguard or Andromeda were the most sophisticated shooter rpgs on the planet, or absolutely mogged elder ring in terms of arpg combat, or made something infinitely more complex compared to Larian or Owlcat when it comes to CRPG elements, it would still be a shit game because nobody plays BioWare games for the gameplay, 99% of population sleepwalks through the combat part and waits for the next cinematic or dialogue scene so they can make decisions and RP. It's funny that people blame BioWare corpos for shit new games, when in reality the corpos can't force the writers to make the writing as terrible as it is, they do it themselves, and nobody actually has any issues with Veilguard's graphics or performance or even gameplay. It's a perfectly ok average AAA game in that regard.

>>715537090 (OP)
I give it a 7/10. origins had better characters, story,environments and combat. The only thing inquisition has is graphics but who the fuck cares when the rest of the game i just a straight downgrade.

Still leaps and bounds better than veilguard

>>715539268
Andromeda is probably their best gameplay to date and it still sold terribly
Veilguard went full action and sold even worse

both of these games sold worse than Baldur's Gate 3, a turn-based game.

>>715539665
I have issues with Veilguard's gameplay, it's really dull and repetitive.

>>715537090 (OP)
/v/ loves to pretend to shit on Bioware, but all of their games basically define eras of this board. Anytime Bioware releases a game it dominates this place for MONTHS.

I was one of the 15000000 and today, 11 years later, after going through 3 jobs and wasting thousands of dollars on other dumb shit, I still regret giving them the money.

>>715537090 (OP)
>>15 000 000 copies sold
we still don't have the number of units sold of this game because it flopped so bad EA had to cope with "active hours played" in shareholder meetings

>>715537090 (OP)
i 100%'d it 3 times.

>>715537090 (OP)
filename

It's fine the bigger problem is also why it sold so well, it was a known brand name attached to an extremely trendy action RPG with heavy reliance on open world quest design.
DAI was a lie to old fans with its lack of C&C, abandonment of core CRPG gameplay(though that really happened in DA2) and it's departure from the previous world building and main story.
If it were by a new ip name old fans would call it 5-6/10 nu-bioware action slop.

>>715540478
solas isnt real and you will never be solas or get fucked by solas

>>715537090 (OP)
The only reason this game had any relevance was because 2014 was a complete nothingburger year for vidya. If it had come out in 2015 it would have been entirely buried.

>>715537090 (OP)
This game fucking sucked. Was literally a single player MMO fetch quest simulator. Wish I could go back in time and not play it.

I'm in the minority that like the game but I can see it flaws. It's basically Mass Effect 3 for Dragon Age franchise but Dragon Age didn't have the 2nd game high point for their trilogy. It has some neat idea that it manage to succeed but also a lot of idea came from chasing trends (open world, crafting.....) which ended up shallow as hell.

DAI tackled some really interesting theme such as religion in a world of magic and whether something is really god's secret hand moving the pieces or just luck. It also give us some more fascinating information about the Tevinter and the NotFrench.

As for companion, it actually has the most number of good companions stories in the series (Cole, Solas, Cassandra, Dorian,...) and the ending for Loghain that feel the most satisfy

>>715537556
Bayo 2 and Dark Souls 2 were better even if they were also downgrades to their predecessors.

>>715541348
>cole
>cassandra
>dorian
baited one anon (me) award

you are so fucking gay and millenial it makes me irrationally angry, just stop posting

>>715540219
To be fair it was the last good game that came out of bioware after it Mass Effect glitchy shit then Anthem then dragon age the failguard. Were at the point bioware either makes a good game or is shuddered.

>>715541645
the last good game that came out of Bioware was Dragon Age Origins

Veilguard being liquid dogshit doesn't change the fact inquisition was terrible as well

>>715541764
To put credit where it's due, Veilguard was surprisingly great too

>>715537090 (OP)
>The Cisquisition
>liked by v
Ha, okay

>>715537090 (OP)
The problem with this game and many EA games at the time was the glitches and annoying gamergaters. Nothing has changed except that the game is worse and has Culture Warriors, which are even more annoying.

>>715541953
baited everyone award
ragebaiting on the internet in his free time award
no friends or social life to get attention from irl award
insincere ironic gamer award

>>715537090 (OP)
Veilguard is better. Inquisition lows are very lows, it's inconsistent.

>>715537090 (OP)
The dragon hunting little "system" they had for having to figure out how to bait or catch them to fight them was pretty fun. The main storyline isn't bad either. Environments looked very pretty. Combat is ok, not great but fine enough for what the game is.

But pretty much all criticism of the open world collectathon, characters, personalities, bioware animations, the performative wokeness, it's all very much true.

>>715537531
It's chiefly paying for repeating, rather than correcting, the sins of its father, DA2. It's a massive digression in tone from Origins, to say nothing of the immense lore rape. The game would be hated a lot less (but still hated nonetheless) if it did not have "Dragon Age" in its name.

Can I pull a bharv in Inquisition?

>>715542046
It was a dei game that like to shit on men and preach dumb feminist shit. Nothing you say can ever change this. You are free to like the game but you can't rewrite history here. 2014 was the year of turd

>>715537090 (OP)
Still abysmally bad. I actually respect Dragon Age 2 more, while it was also a terrible bastardization, Inquisition makes you realize how 2 at least tries to be a COD-ified experience within the original framework, whereas Inq is literally just a Dragon Age coat of paint on new mechanics

>>715541953
>over ninety hours of my finite life spent on tranny diarrhea

>>715542103
if it wasn't called Dragon Age, no one would give it a moment's thought. It would be Bound By Flame tier.

>>715537090 (OP)
I didn't like it back when it released.

If by some miracle Veilguard turned out to be great I was willing to give DAI another chance just to catch up on the lore and characters.
That didn't happen so I'll stick to my view that there's only one good DA game: the first one.

Better studios got shut down by EA for a lot less, I'm amazed that they still keep BW around. I guess it's for the brand because they sure as fuck don't have the talent.

the highs of the game are the highest in the series, and prevent me from calling the game bad. the lows of the game are the lowest in the series, and prevent me from calling the game great. you may tell me to simply not do the content i don't like, but the opportunity cost of having it there affords criticism and perhaps shields some lacking level design. it's bizzare that horses and abused skill mechanics are the only horizontal movement tech, and a jump is the only vertical movement option. the game would have benefited from a climbing mechanic or an assassin's creed or forspoken style "inquisitor run" parkour. either of which would have been an opportunity to distinguish classes further. i can't tell you how many time i grumbled at the thought of my mages having the ability to rend reality to their will, but couldn't pick me up 5 feet.

speaking of which, i would LOVE to hear the internal rationale of limiting skills to 8 slots. on second thought, maybe i wouldn't. the decision to have healing be a limited resource was so odd, but could have been a balancing decision. it's too much to ask, but i would also like to see gameplay roles outside of their archetypical class. for example, a tank mage or support rogue could have complimented the existing barrier and guard mechanics while allowing for more character expression in gameplay

the character writing was so far above everything in quality that i can't help but feel the entire experience would have been better as a book

>>715542210
EA was and still is a terrible company. But the biggest problem were the glitches.

>>715537090 (OP)
>mmo like fetch quests
>empty maps
>ridiculous enemies respawn rate where sometimes the moment you move camera shit spawns
>ugly ass characters
>the war table
>having to go to some website to create world state rather than migrating from saves from previous games
could go on but fuck me this game made me hate open world games for years until finally decided to try some other ones again
also the whole everyone saying and praising you that it was andraste herself that saved you but actually it was totally justinia because they didn't even fucking use a different model just made it bright was absolutely and utterly retarded for the player
no mystery no nothing
you immediately know from the first moment
fuck I hate this game

>>715542323
I'm not so sure. It was still Bioware, which was a bigger brand than Dragon Age per se, and some people still had hope they'd learn something from the backlash back then. Also, so many others would still just buy anything Bioware no questions asked because they didn't see the change in direction a problem to begin with. A company with a long track record of so many popular games doesn't really lose steam until at least 3 or 4 major disappointments. If all it took was one major disaster, they would have closed up shop 2 months into TORtanic release.

>>715542409
My guess why they make healing limited was due to the shield/guard system. DA2 has a problem where you need a healer so you are forced to take Ander unless you're also a mage that take spirit healer spec. The shield/guard system lets you be more flexible with building your party. But combine with healing it could be a little too much since you always can shield up and then heal.

>>715542770
>3 or 4 major disappointments
>Dragon Age 2
>SWTOR
>Mass Effect 3
mhm

>>715539925
>both of these games sold worse than Baldur's Gate 3, a turn-based game.
Baldur's Gate 3's sales and mainstream success is absolutely NOT because of its turn based combat. Its the characters and their interactions. Ironically, the nu-Bioware stuff.
Baldur's Gate 3 is liked for the same reason, and by the same people, that Mass Effect is liked.

>>715542823
they made healing limited because they couldn't figure out how to make targeted or mass healing spells in Frostbite. Literally just pure incompetence on a fundamental programming level.

>>715542868
Mass Effect 3 was a massive financial success. If you can mald about the endings, Bioware already took your money.

>>715537090 (OP)
>Terrible open world pacing
>Shitty le meme companion (Sera)
>All other companions not from DA2 are forgettable
>Incomplete ending without DLC
6/10

It sucks ass. I went into it open minded too. I have no idea how it won any GOTYs.

>>715539993
The review I've sene of Veilguard (haven't played myself) said that the gameplay is the best in any Dragon Age game. But everything else is worse, apperantly.

>>715542925
then bringing up the gameplay style in either case is irrelevant.

>>715537090 (OP)
Awful game.

>>715542945
>they couldn't figure out how to make targeted or mass healing spells in Frostbite
That's weird cause you can mass shielding in the game

>>715543023
It's worse than DAO, at the very least. I don't know how I'd rate it against 2 or Inquisition, but they're all bad in different ways. Veilguard feels almost like a mobile game.

>>715542995
The Geoff Awards have always, ALWAYS been fake.

>>715542995
astro bot, it takes two, and overwatch won GOTY. tells you how shit the industry is

>>715542985
Imagine rubbing your hand on her greasy face

>>715542409
>speaking of which, i would LOVE to hear the internal rationale of limiting skills to 8 slots
gamepads

>>715542985
Sera was fine, desu. More interesting than fan favorite Isabella, for sure.

>>715543412
Gamepads are an excuse, the actual explanation is just >>715542945

Maybe EA shouldn't force dev to use Frostbite engine

>>715542823
the tools given to the player can always be balanced by enemy design, it's just odd that they decided to get rid of an rpg mainstay without it being addressed by anyone. reminds me of the ammo change in mass effect now that i think about it

>>715543602
If all first party studios use the same studio, you can more easily move people between them, based on what project needs more hands. I get why they did it.

>>715537090 (OP)
im convinced that almost all of these shitty leftist games didnt suceed and the sales were all money laundering
considering that nobody i have ever met irl has played any of them
esp baldurs gate 3
elon found out that they were doing it with politico and all that other garbage
i hate this fake communist society so fucking much
jesus christ the non omnipotent
god of the bible is the real satan

>>715543674
I think Bioware mostly took the lesson from ME3. ME3 also has limited healing and the game mainly revolve around cover and manage your shield/barrier.

>>715543261
Astro Bot and It Takes Two were totally deserved. I’d personally put Dread above It Takes Two but that’s a great choice anyway. There’s some I personally disagree with but Overwatch and DAI are the only egregious GOTY picks.

>>715537090 (OP)
dropped it halfway through, too much slop. And I say that as someone who replayed DA2 3 times

>>715543965
Which mods should you use for DA2?

>>715537090 (OP)
I still haven't tried it desu, I never could finish DA2.

>>715537531
Not parroting reviews isn't being contrarian.
The game was popular and decent but well overrated for what it was and the older games in the series were better.

>>715544086
Warlock Buddy, if you are playing a Warlock.

>>715537090 (OP)
Sold off the hype and good will from DA 1 and 2.

>>715542945
i refuse to believe this because it would make me sad

Veilguard ruined the Darkspawn like how the DLC of ME3 ruined the Reaper. It hinted a the Darkspawn is something ancient, older than even the elves and the elves brought them out of their prisons underground when once of their gods venture into the darkness beneath the earth.

>>715537090 (OP)
I never got out of the first area after the tutorial. I guess it may have been considered an extended tutorial? Anyway, I got really bored. It was better than 2 which I WISH i stopped playing.

>>715537090 (OP)
https://2014.vidyagaemawards.com/winners
Nah, we were hating on it since day one, you newfaggot retard. Most Hated game of 2014, read it and weep it.

>>715537090 (OP)
>>715537531
I didn't like the clunky mmo companion focused style of player. The warrior class, usually my go to in RPGs, was very unfun in Inquisition. I don't want to worry about some kind of weird armor breaking mechanic I just wanna rush in and hit things. Switching to a dwarf dagger rouge made the game actually kind of fun. Maybe if I get further into the game and actually beat it I'll change my mind, but desu I have better games to play. The worst thing about Inquisition for me was it making me actually like the Dragon Age setting and characters so I could be invested enough to feel the pain of seeing it all ruined in Veilguard. And I will say, after seeing Veilguard, I apologize to Inquisition and my past criticisms of the game.

there was still some hope left for bioware at the time this released
too bad the game turned out to be a single player MMO where every zone was filled with the same 4 types of quests/events with very small variations. also the combat was doggy doodoo

>>715544443
who the fuck cares dragon age is dead. they won't release a new one at all given how bad veilguard did.

>>715547880
Yeah, warrior basically turn into rolling-the class. Rogue and mage has better speciality. I especially like Tempest and the class ultimate

Only niggercattle liked it vm2w

>>715537090 (OP)
I've always loved Inquisition. A lot of the strongest writing in the series is in this game. It just needed a worthier villain and less bloat.

>>715537090 (OP)
Even at the time /v/ made fun of it for being a pozzfest. It's also really bloated, way too long and offline MMO doesn't not make for very compelling gameplay.

>>715542925
Exactly the point - the argument was that Bioware went for non-turn-based because that sells better. That's not what it hinges on, though, as BG3 shows.

>>715537090 (OP)
It treated best girl mostly right.
And the game was really pretty for its time, aside from weird grease on many characters. Great soundtrack. Pushing people off cliffs with my shield was more fun with combat than I had in the previous games but that is not saying much. It's okay overall.
I know many people hate the WEWH quest but I would have liked more of that over yet another empty map they didn't have the time to fill with good side quests.

I've been playing video games since the nes and 2014 was easily the worst year for video games ever.

>>715538473
Nigger

>>715550408
zamn, moisturizer was really popular in inquisition era huh
>>715550693
obsessed with nigger clitties and peckers award

>>715550408
genuinely the only thing worth experiencing inquisition for is to hear morrigan be happy with the warden and their son

>>715547658
b-but...Witcher 3!

>>715551675
Until Veilguard ofc hehe

>>715537090 (OP)
Terrible, MMO style quests and busywork
Weird sorta open world filled with said MMO style quests
Generally bad companions
Plot that turns you into the chosen one god
Adding in more SJW nonsense (FtM transgendered member of the Bull's band)
Combat that is leaning more towards action and away from the tactical style of origins.
Real time gated inquisition roundtable shit.

It is undeniably better than 2. Graphically it looks nice. It had some good music, some good voice acting, etc. The writing isn't utterly horrendous and you can actually be a dick in the game (so points over Veilguard), but it just isn't very good. It never was. I don't know how anyone who is a fan of Origins could be a huge fan of this game. The only way you could justify liking it is if you played 2 and then this right after because 2 is just that fucking bad.
It is, unfortunately, the second best Dragon Age game. It somehow has better facial animations than Veilguard, and Veilguard came out like a decade later.

This game was the wordt out of all 3 and I made the mistake of platinuming all 3 games achievements. Dragon age 2 was the hardest one with the best gameplay and worst story, origins was best story and best pacing. And inquisition had the worst combat ever because it memed turn based combat but was nearly impossible to play it that way with the dogshit AI that wouldn’t listen to your commands. BioWare pulled two mass effect fiascos from its tranny ass

>>715537090 (OP)
Meh. 7/10. Decent but nothing to write home about

>>715537090 (OP)
4/10. A boring, but polished turd.

>>715537556
EA just paid a lot of money for it. It was always the franchise that they primarily marketed through paid reviews and accolades.

>>715537090 (OP)
5/10
Mediocre game.

There is nothing i like about it, i guess most of the things it does are rather average or serviceable but there is nothing impressive about it.
The worst part is the quests and the world design.
I did enjoy some of the main story quests but thats about it, most of the game is rather lame, combat, gameplay, exploration, side quests, its just a bad game compared to the great RPGs, but if you compare it to videogames in general like Ubislop and some of these mediocre JRPGs and some of these garbage games we sometimes get especially from Xbox then i guess its not dogshit 1/10, its probably closer to 5/10

>>715537090 (OP)
It's very easy.
Varric and Solas are easily the best characters in Veilguard, but they are benched at game start, so people go: "Hey, remember when we had these two dudes for a full game and there was some banter and a few funny and well written lines from time to time?"

>>715537090 (OP)
imagine playing Gaider's homoerotic fanfiction game with the freddy mercury magician LMAO

Possibility that the Blight real and is the blight season approaching where we fight for our Millennial Kingdom of God?

Solas got the veil down in Fail2Guard right?

>>715553243
Morrigan would still fuck him like this

I like it, have a lot of hours on it, but it is also kind of a guilty pleasure. There are story segments and characters I like but the gameplay is literally just a mindless collectathon with every map being the exact same with regards to what to collect. Kind of hilarious when you think about the game having 12 maps and literally only ONE of the is relevant to the story.

>>715561594
Don't feel guilty, there's a million people who have replayed vanilla WoW many times, wasting literally thousands of hours of their life killing boars.

>>715561949
You say wasted, but they gained EXPERIENCE and they each get to tell their own story of what they gained from it

>>715562020
Well, so did you, collecting elfroot for 200 hours.

>>715537090 (OP)
It was a letdown with some highlights. Cory was a stupid villain but eh. I didn't hate it. Having experienced Veilguard, Inquisition feels like a masterpiece. I alreay feel bad for ME enjoyers because they are gonna fuck you next.

>>715537090 (OP)
6/10
Okay for the time, with many problems: the map is too boring and big, forgettable quests, and horrible companions except for two.

>>715562064
And I received many things and still am!

>>715562331
It was the Solas story in the background with the later payoff of Trespasser that people actually liked.

>>715562439
And Solas was the best part of Veilguard too.
They should've stuck with making it about him, not this new Marvel Avengers squad.

One of the worst games I've ever finished.

>>715562581
This post made me think what is the worst game I've ever finished.
I'd say my top 3 are:
>Dragon Age Veilguard
>Duke Nukem Forever
>Deadly Premonition

I actually thought Mass Effect Andromeda wasn't that bad. And generally, I don't finish really bad games.

>>715560235
speak English

>>715562289
Whilst he sucked, Cory had some excellent lines and VA delivery.

>>715562439
This to me, was the most unforgivable part. They gave themselves such a strong setup from Trespasser. A solid direction. There's just no excuse, considering the amount of pre-production into characters, concepts and yadda yadda over ten years.