>new expansion revealed
>not a single thread
Yup its dead sir

>>715539591 (OP)
stupid gay tranny game which looks more like barbie dollhouse than anything

>>715539591 (OP)
I had fun but I could only take so much of the endless quirky chungus writing thats gets worse every update. Any time you want to do fractals you have to listen to some NPC explaining her (formerly his) transition

>>715539591 (OP)
tranny devs tranny game

I wish mods would filter the T word like they did with söy

>>715540665
We should filter mentally-ill degenerates that will never be a woman instead
and pajeets

Some of the biggest games in the world see no discussion on /v/.

>>715539591 (OP)
Why would we discuss good games on /v/ lol, lmao even.

>>715539591 (OP)
tried getting into this game when it released on steam but I dropped it after 7 hours
it's the definition of mid

Post Asuras, faggots.

>>715539591 (OP)
/v/ hates GW2 and always has.
Don't expect to talk about it here.
Go to the general on /vg/

The original is better

>>715543273
I don't post in generals

>>715539591 (OP)
Yeah, the last few expansions were no indication of death, right? Be real for 1 second. It was a corpse by the time End of Dragons came out.

>>715543000
Ehh. It suffers DEEPLY from the devs buying into the idea that "mmos start at max lvl."
Most content might be end game content, but WoW definitely DID start at level 1, as do most classic games. GW2 in comparison gives you a chore of leveling to 80 right off the bat. It's a garbage way to introduce you to the game.

>>715543404
GW2 was declared dead since the population drop off a few weeks after launch in 2012.
Yet 12+ years later they keep making expacs to sell.
Perhaps what is dead may never truly die?

>>715543775
Do you understand the concept of a zombie company? GW2 just has too much invested players, the same thing is happening. It's a walking corpse more than something vibrant.
From the perspective of business, I'm sure it's profitable. It's just a soulless husk making money from people suffering from sunken cost fallacy at this point.

>>715539591 (OP)
Shitscale pandering killed GW2
HoT was the undisputed best content of the game

>>715539591 (OP)
still not over the disappointment of this game
the annoucnement, and then the betas, and each beta getting worse
the art style
oh god it sucks so bad
gw1 skills in gw2 open world sure fine
but no
why the fuck are charr friends with humans
silvari too should be hostile too surely
fuck asuras, tbf eye of the north was a big warning of what was to come
nightfall ruled
fuck this game

>MMORPG
>gear doesn't matter

>>715546167
>why the fuck are charr friends with humans
Actually the Charr were the good guys the whole time, the humans are ackshually the evil invaders who stole Charr land so the searing was justified retaliation for building a wall to keep them out, they're basically native americans or israelis you see
GW2 glosses over the fact that humans were eaten as a regular part of the Charr diet for HUNDREDS OF YEARS
You don't get to take the moral high ground when you enslave and eat your enemies when they can no longer work

>>715546535
damn guess I was just being privileged thanks for making me check myself, going to write an apology letter now and delete my gw1 account

>>715539591 (OP)
>Yup its dead sir
Was it ever alive?

Current one isnt even 1 year old

>>715546496
What do you mean gear doesn't matter? they all have different stats
Just because you don't have to grind for a new set every expansion doesn't mean the gear doesn't matter

The combat and class system is still trash. Unfortunate because I like a lot about the game.

>>715543305
the issue with 1 is it's legitimately a
>it gets good 200 hours in
game

>game about buildcrafting/teamcrafting
>start the game with like 1 good skill that you spam while you do generic mmorpg fetch/kill quests
>most of the skills you get are situational trash or shit that doesn't fit with the one skill you spam
>gradually gain decent skills so you have a couple of different options on what to spam
>but oh wait, all the zones are multiplayer zones so you'll be running around with your pre-built NPC henchmen who do most of the heavy lifting while your job is mostly just pulling groups
>finally get a customizable NPC hero
>it's a different class
>only have skills for your own class so you can't customize him for shit unless you
>a) level an alt of that class and unlock skills
>b) pay an arm and a leg to unlock the skills on that character
>c) make a half assed copy of your own build on the hero and have him just play it as a secondary class
>d) just forget about buildcrafting, google a meta build, and pay a decent amount of plat to unlock the skills for it (and hunt the elite for it)

Once you've leveled and built all the classes, unlocked all the skills/elites, and understand how the skills work and can buildcraft your own teams, I'm sure you're having a great time, but until then the game is super mid.

>>715539591 (OP)
because it's a dogshit trailer that is all over the place
the new elite specs are uninspired dogshit garbage
hurr durr bard mesmer so original hurr durr ranger gets another bow hurr durr mozilla firefox elementalist when they could have made that a revenant legend
it's trash nigga and ain't dropping $25 on this after how shit JW was

>>715543689
>WoW definitely DID start at level 1
Yeah vanilla wow did. The last time I played wow it had it way worse with only the endgame mattering

>>715543305
I can’t imagine getting into it today
>Need to play through all of NF and EotN to get all the heroes
>Will have to run around and cap all the elite skills you’ll need for your heroes
>Costs around 400k to gear them up
Good luck doing all that as a new player just so you can do DoA with heroes since there’s nothing else to do

>>715539591 (OP)
>expansion reveal
>at the same time WoW shows information about Midnight release on Gamescom
Hmm I wonder

>>715539591 (OP)
Most of the time when theres a GW2 thread it results in people dragging up issues from before the first expansion came out ~10 years ago
Anyway, since nobody else posted the trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4cdnrLCs-M

>lead writer (biological female, XX chromosomes) leaves the studio
>games goes woke and turns to shit
/v/trannies, you told me women ruin everything, but she was keeping it together all the time.
Explain yourself

>>715549050
>Talking about shit that happened years ago

>>715549108
Your concession has been accepted

>>715549050
>lead writer (biological female, XX chromosomes) leaves the studio
No, she got fired for being a useless shithead just like Gaile Gray!

The Guild Wars 2 is still objectively amazing in every ways!

DEAL WITH IT!

this game needs a 2025 overhaul
graphics, ui, game systems

>>715549415
fr fr it needs a remake. it's just too clunky no cap.

>>715549595
i mean it anon
the game looks dated as fuck in most regards

>>715549257
This is why no GW2 threads OP. People like this that actively make /v/ worse and just wanna start shit.

>>715548757
So what, you can shoot stuff on your Skimmer now? I'm curious to see if it'll turn OP like the cat did but I also feel bad for the bunny for still being left useless.
Zones designed for the bunny could've been pretty interesting if they had the balls to disable the flying mounts in there too.

>>715547956
>get 200 hours in, where the game finally gets good
>'hmm now that i've got a grip on the game, i'm going to look up some good builds'
>immediately ruin game by turning it into an idle clicker where mesmer heroes instantly evaporate anything that touches the aggro bubble
I fucking love this game, but I'd struggle to recommend it to other people, and am always surprised when I see new players enjoying it. Then again, I felt the same way about Dragon's Dogma, and /v/ gargles that game's balls, so maybe I'm just retarded and don't know what fun is.

From someone who played A LOT for the first 5 years or so of this game

What it does well:
Achievment system is very satisfying and extensive
World bosses and map metas are basically the best in the genre and basically the main reason to play this game. Raids were a big disappointment, as were dungeons. Fractals are okay because they have their own meta progression which was cool
Fashion/transmog system is really good, with fully functioning dye system, and plenty of chase items, limited items. The only depressing thing is the armour part, which isnt as extensive as the weapons part if you dont pay money
Mount system is great but I wouldnt play the game for the mount system
The PvP was a lot of fun while it was alive. WvW is meh and very repetitive

What it does poorly:
Gearing is just not a thing.
Buildcraft is just not a thing
You copy a build and thats it
The combat system isnt horrible but its not good either, its definitely below average. The way you get good at combat in this game is being tick perfect and timing your clicks in a very contrived way. The DPS difference beteen someone good and someoen bad at this is like 10x which is just ridiculous. Its basically like the RuneScape 3 combat system.
Way too much convenience stuff in the MTX store. Unlimited foraging tools should not be a paid service. And there should not be a difference in speed at how fast you forage stuff based on which skin you're using (???) absolutely ridiculous.
The LFG system is so bad. Theres a reason map metas were the most popular thing in the game and raids were DOA.
Dumb story
For the most part cringe and dumb devs. I still havent forgotten how they treated Kripp all those years ago. It really set the stage for the game in the worst way possible and in hindsight, it was obvious where the game was gonna go

If they make GW3 i really hope they seriously reconsider a lot of these decisions in GW2 but keep a lot the things that made it special,

>>715539591 (OP)
Let me put it very simply, the quality of MMO depends entirely upon its playerbase.
And the Guild Wars 2 fans are, well...

>>715550157
>Gearing is just not a thing.
>Buildcraft is just not a thing
>combat in this game is being tick perfect and timing your clicks in a very contrived way
lol, lmao even. Git gud shitter.

>>715549949
Your bad for googling a meta team. It's funny how the mesmer meta runes are super inflated in price thanks to everyone building like 5 heroes with them.

>>715539796
>She doesn't have the observatory pass
lmao

>>715545886
This

>>715550157
The LFG system isn't that bad but it has way too fucking many categories now. It was serviceable in Vanilla/HoT but I really fucking wish it had a way to see all the listings by now.

>>715539591 (OP)
dead tranny game

>>715549912
They initially had a mount that was a wall climbing spider but you just know it got scrapped because everyone has a breakdown at the thought of a virtual arachnid. It's what the Skyscale should have been. Actually having the griffon would still have been an achievement and you could probably work out some interesting movement when combined with webs between surfaces.

>>715551000
>wow
dead tranny game
>ffxiv
dead tranny game
>gw2
dead tranny game

MMOs are over

>>715539591 (OP)
Kinda excited for paragon and ritualist specs
But I only play pretty sparingly
My main Engineer is only barely into the last expansion.

>>715550417
No one is forcing you to get stupid effects or flamboyant outfits, and most don't
It's generally just the "anime charr" and sylvari who do that
Mesmer too, but everyone else is pretty normal.
I do see a lot of casual or comical looks, but that's it
Take a screenshot of a group of players and I guarantee you won't see gay unicorns, at most it's going to be people with obnoxious wings

>>715552139
I dont know if Im alone but wings trigger me tremendously. I can tolerate a lot of bullshit in transmogs but wings ALWAYS piss me off instantly

>>715552059
Glad they're still making new specs.
The last expansion can be finished pretty quickly. The maps are alright but I the last one felt like there should have been a bit more to Bava Nisos

>>715550417
Most people just play human females and use bikini armor skins from the gem store

>>715552745
So Bard is basically confirmed for Mesmer.
Paragon to Warrior. Probably the helmet
Ritualist to Necro. Bet its the knife
The cards look like the gambler spec thing we saw pictures of, probably thief
The feathered bow thing is Ranger based on the trailer.
Ele is getting some sort of fox spirit thing based on the trailer, so probably the mask
Guardian had an image with a floating lantern, so I think its one of the shield looking icons.
Leaving a shield and orbit image for Engineer and Revenant.

>>715552745
u gotta be pretty delusional to believe in arenanet deliverying anything of quality after their last expac(Eod) and 2 paid living word episodes marketed as expansions. They are literally backpedaling what they said years ago about not doing anymore elite specs and and to noone surprise their sales tanked. I have been playing gw2 since 2013 but I ain't falling for their shit again.

>>715553406
Yea im surprised they even committed to not making more elite specs

>>715539591 (OP)
Its not perfect, but for me is the best modern mmo today, and it btfo of retail wow and FFXIV.. And this time new specc will appear in next expansion, plus some QoL stuff. Good stuff.
>>715550157
Good points; and GW3 living or dying will depend on ANet bothering to do a good job+adding Tengu+Not being greedy (Like maybe an OPTIONAL subscription mode like TESO)

This game used to be so amazing. Then the DEI trannys took over and destroyed it. What a fucken waste. I'd still be spending easily a hundred a month if it had not gone down the DEI fag route. No cool new evilnskins, shitty class design (necro using potions and guns lol wtf) etc

Fuck these faggots. I hope a et devs die

>>715553406
>said years ago about not doing anymore elite spec
Well their director from pre-HoT returned just after cantha so anything promised back then doesn't matter.
I'm also sceptical about getting another expansion with this format, probably playing janthir the least. I tend to play year on - year off I'll just do the same again and see what the post launch consensus is.

>>715553248
>Paragon to Warrior.
Are they actually going to get spears and angel wing abilities? If so I will reinstall, Paragon is thematically one of my favorite classes in any vidya, but the gameplay is not the best.

>>715539591 (OP)
are there still zergs?

>>715539687
just say tourist feminists

>>715555104
They haven't actually dropped the full elite spec reveals yet. Supposedly they'll do that next week.
But they posted an image with the "warrior guy" they use for every elite warior reveal as a Paragon, with a spear and wings, but that was art, not in game.
Spears are already in game, but they're not throwing weapons.

>>715539591 (OP)
>It became woke trash
>Everyone fled the game
Why does it happen every time?
It may seem like adding a quest about punching "bigots" is not a great tactic to keep players engaged in the game...

>>715552139
>>715552646
My beautiful irresistible wings make you upset? I'm sorry you feel that way

>>715555104
land spears went to every class(?) in the previous expansion and they can easily take the animations from that one dragonhunter f2(?) skill and all the longbow animations to make throwable spears for some utility or elite skill. they aren't adding new weapon skills with these though

>>715539591 (OP)
That's always the case because the game has overwhelming negative reputation coming from multiple camps. Justifiably or not.

>>715549693
And thanks to the spaghetti code engine it STILL also runs like ass, even after what? 3 updates that were supposed to "fix" it?

>>715551820
mmorpgs have established player bases. which is overall negative because A) no new player is getting 3+ expansions in and B) you only get opinions from dedicated players who have vastly different perspectives.

>>715555245
>>715555104
This was one of the teasers last week. He's even holding an Elonian spear.

>>715555415
>Arue trapped in interdimensional prison for all eternity for being a perversion of the cosmic order after KC went Aeon
good ending

>>715539591 (OP)
/v/ has been saying this game is dead since 2015

>>715555743
Oh yeah. That's the actual Sunspear™ he's holding.

>>715550157
>What it does poorly:
>Gearing is just not a thing.
but it doesn't set out to have a gear treadmill in the first place... thats like complaining that it doesn't shorten your commute

>>715555804
I'm not trapped silly, I can go out anytime I want. Also my husband is an Azata.

>>715546167
>the art style
>oh god it sucks so bad
desu i don't mind the artstyle, it's not offensive, aged pretty well, and it looks distinct
the watercoloring effect is actually pretty good in some areas too.
i agree with the rest tho

>>715548757
actually, there's plenty of shitting on EoD, which only came out in 2022
and plenty for how much they charge for the new living stor- I mean mini-expansions

>>715556063
I dont know why you would call it a treadmill. Clearly from the get go you're biased against the notion of certain items beign stronger than others
Im playing OSRS right now and they're showing how you can make meaningful gear progression without invalidating old gear with new updates

>>715539591 (OP)

I would've kept playing if they didn't keep nerfing my chill open world builds. Fuck them.

I've been in a coma for 10 years, have they added guild wars yet?

>>715556242
what'd they do now?

Beat up the Bigot

>>715556232
Lots of people prefer being able to pick up the game again after not playing for months or years and seeing that their character in all ascended armor is still viable

>>715539591 (OP)
You know very well ONLY WoW and FF14 expansions get any traction on /v/.

I don't have any attachment to the first Guild Wars but GW2 will still have a place in my heart, just because I love the Asura. Love those smug lil' niggas.

>>715556242
What build is that?

>>715556204
>demons are misunderstood!
>demon right is all right
>the aspect of terror love cuddles and cute things!

>>715556371
Same is basically true in OSRS. But the grind for gear doesnt end after 1 month like in GW2, at which point you just farm gold for fashion.
I guess theres a certain slice of the MMO population that enjoys not having to worry about gear ever again. But I think thats a very small minority. Gearing is like one of the most fundamental aspects of RPGs and GW2 just faisl at it completely

>>715548757
>Most of the time when theres a GW2 thread it results in people dragging up issues from before the first expansion came out ~10 years ago
eod and the ebin facist bashing wasn't 10 years ago
you shills always cope about this without reading the threads you post in

>>715556614
>theres a certain slice of the MMO population that enjoys not having to worry about gear ever again. But I think thats a very small minority
yes, they all went to GW2

>>715556614
>>715556371
Btw and I dont know if you played back then but Ascended gear was completely tacked on as an after thought once people realised there is 0 gearing in this game and they got massive backlash so they responded. Ascended gear adds nothing to the game, frankly neither does exotic. Just could have kept rare gear and the game wouldnt have lost any depth

>>715556614
It's not a gear treadmill but a lot of the grind basically comes from doing legendary collections or if you're doing fractals, maxing out your agony resistance for high end fractals because doing that is a massive kick in the cunt.

>>715556614
>But I think thats a very small minority.
One of GW2 main points is its horizontal progress, and being very casual (While still having engaging gameplay with depth). 500-600K players the game have even when its halcyon times passed a decade ago.

>>715556780
Thats why I found fractals okay like I said in my first post.
Like its the only part of the game with any power progression, and it felt good getting up those infusions week after week.

>>715555743
>ritualist
Holy fuck cool class in GW1. I'm sure it will sucks in GW2

>>715539591 (OP)
I recently replayed all the GW1 expansions on a new character for the 20th anniversary.
It is worth getting into gw2 just to revisit Tyria and see how the old places have changed from a different perspective or nah? And do you have to buy all the expansions, is stuff locked behind story/grinds, is it solo friendly or how does it work? I heard the mounts and exploration are cool, so I thought about reexploring the world if it's worth my time.

>>715557298
Its going to be an Elite spec for Necro, that much is effectively confirmed with that image.
Which means its not going to be able to do all the stuff that original Necro did since its not a complete class. It'll be boiled down to Summoning and maybe spiking or healing, but not both.
GW2's class system just feels so limited when you compare it to GW1's.

>>715557525
the expansion and living world maps are locked behind their specific paywalls, so you do have to buy just about everything to see everything. you'll have to do some story steps at the start of each content point (expansion and living world chapter) to get to the new maps, but you can ignore it once you're there

>>715556242
mace untamed is still king for open world

>>715555086
cantha had elite specs, that promise came with soto which colin was fully on board for. colin is the biggest liar there and a bad designer. it's not a good thing that anet took him back after he bombed another game at amazon.

of course if you've been around for any amount of time you know anything anet says is subject to a complete reversal. they will say things in order to appear confident but when it falls flat and sales suffer they will backpedal to get back to where they were. they weren't even supposed to have expansion packs, just an endless stream of living world updates, and we went from no expansions to obligatory, hell or high water, annual expansions

Play GW1

>>715558536
>>715557525
dead shit game

>>715546535
>GW2 glosses over the fact that humans were eaten as a regular part of the Charr diet for HUNDREDS OF YEARS
Was that before humans took charr lands? I thought humans started the war right after they landed on the planet.

>>715551820
>OSRS
dead tranny game

>>715556418
Because possibly Blizzard & SquareEnix pay shills to constantly shitpost /v/ with their trash game stuff. And Wow being baby first mmorpg mean big chunk of mmo anons ONLY know about Wow.

>>715556614
Getting all the legendary weapons and 150 AR on all the characters you’d want to do fractals on would take a while.
People like feeling like their efforts won’t go to waste.

>>715558536
Dead game. A new player getting into it for the first time probably wouldn’t find it fun

>>715557525
>>715558536
Guild Wars 2 > Guild Wars 1.

DEAL WITH IT!

>>715558612
>>715560910
Indeed!

>>715560738
I don't know about that.
Blizzdrones are mostly just 30 year olds who have rose tinted glasses permanently welded to their faces when it comes to WoW. They are all still chasing that high they got when they played after school with their guild friends. They'll never get it, but they all act like its coming next expansion.
And FFXIV fags are literally groomers. They're only here to recruit ERP buddies. Nobody actually plays that game except as a vehicle for getting more outfits to ERP in.

>>715557525
You have to buy the expacs, but you can use in-game gold to unlock the living story maps. I remember they made them all free at one point, idk if that’s still going.
Playing through the story solo is very easy.

I like the fluid combat, I dont touch the tranny plot anymore anyway

Why is it so hard to get MMOs are just a relic of another era.
Back when there was barely any youtube and forums here and there were the most you'd get out of online social interaction with strangers. You'd start up an MMO and be expected to talk to people, ask shit around like places to level up or form a party. Nowadays you just open up a massive guide with the game solved for you or a video tutorial on best places to level up alone, there's no need for any socialization, and social aspects were the heart and unironic soul of MMOs.

>>715561441
Go paly EVE online? Bonus points for playing EVE blind LMAO

>>715561317
This is basically the only reason I think GW2 is better than the other "Big" MMOs. I HATE basic bitch tab targetted combat with 20 skill bar rotations. GW2 is only a step above that, but it already feels worlds better.

>>715561183
All of them were free in their first ~3 months of availability if you just logged in.

>>715561441
Wiki's and metas. The fact a game updates and within minutes you have someone dumping a datamine of every addition and all build variety gets hyperfocused into singular classes or skills.
I can't imagine being one of the people that needs an addon giving them step by step instructions just to participate in a raid or dungeon.

>>715539687
>stupid gay tranny game which looks more like barbie dollhouse than anything
but enough about ffxiv

>>715539591 (OP)
It looks like a living world release more than an expansion. Also nobody gives a fuck about the Inquest.

>>715539591 (OP)
Isn't GW2 almost 15 years old? It's crazy it's still up.

>>715562429
Came out in 2012. Almost 13

>Wiki's and meta
Here we go again. You can always pretend to be mentally ill if you want in any MMO (OMG THIS IS MY FIRST GAME LET'S CHAT XD HOW TO PRESS BUTTONS UwU?). You can always ignore guides, not reading your class abilities and do retarded shit and retarded builds. Some MMOs will not even judge you for doing this. For example eve or albion. You will be punished by the NPC and players who will only laugh at your build.

>>715562429
Yeah, but all new content is basically slop at this point. Last content that wasn't complete slop came out in 2017-2019.

>>715562490
That's pretty good no? It was the first (and only) MMO I went to the endgame, it was fun. The legendaries were so fucking sick. The Twilight lives rent free in my head because of that texture effect.
>>715562610
Well that's shame. I heard the mounts are pretty good to use.
I quit just before Heart of Thorns expansion. I remember the last thing I did was farm for the early access trial thing in game and then quitting.

>>715562886
Yeah, the mounts were amazing, really. Path of Fire and Living world season 4 came out in 2017-2019. It was all centered around mounts. The whole game went noticeably downhill after that. End of Dragons was still palatable, but Secrets of the Obscure was insanely poor quality. It was comparable to rehashing vanilla content. I'd say it was like LW S1 but shit.

>>715563154
Yeah. Last two expansions were glorified content patches. But hey, their excuse is they're $5 cheaper.

>>715563154
Hold on u are rushing on when the game started to fail. Mike'o' Bryan was locked in with the ending of LW4 and announced the next LW5 alongside with a new addition to instanced content called strike missions. He laid out Grothmar Valley, Bjora Marches and Drizzelwood, but while doing those NCsoft came and slapped cash demanding an expansion with severely retarded deadlines. Mike'o' bryen stepped down with his team and that's when Coil came. That's when the entire game went downhill, because those who took over after mike's departure didn't have any vision to continue, as the last good maps of GW2 is Drizzlewood, the depth of that map is unmatched with the slop we get these days.

I know a lot of retards on gw2 sub complain about IBS because of DRMs, which it undoubtly a very profitable way to get materials, but tedious and easy to do, but up until that point GW2 had a course.

>>715563579
I just wish they did GW1 - regular, sensibly priced expansions. Five year gap between PoF and EoD, which wasn't REALLY a gap since we still got story updates, was what did the game in public perception.

>>715563579
Diarrhea is diarrhea even if you have a reasonable excuse.
IBS wasn't bad, but it was slop. The slop just got sloppier from there.

I'm not a playing game where it throws a lot of shit at my inventory and I need to spend time selling it away.

>>715563841
I agree with you the LW episodes inbetween expansions were not that great for the perception of tha game, even though between HoTs and PoF we got a wing 4 with Bloodstone Fen and PoF and EoD we got W5 and W6, but the thing is anet has a really good system of providing api keys to players and gathering information on player data. I believe the guy responsible in the company for conveying that data accurately fucked up majorly to giving anet correct information on what people really wanted, because raids were all the craze back then.

Also let us not forget the NCsoft West fiasco of that era, terrible situation for all companies evolved, it took the life of Wildstar and hindered many other MMOs.

>>715563949
If IBS was diarrhea EoD, SotO and JW is rigor mortis. We are dead, we just waiting for the effect to take over.

>>715564017
What MMO doesn't do that?

>>715557525
They raped cantha and turn it into Washington state
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=GxTiwKvp348

>>715564314
>If IBS was diarrhea EoD, SotO and JW is rigor mortis.
I have to be little mean for you own good now.
Are you literate? The two sentences signify separate thoughts. One addresses your general attitude, and the other addresses a new data point you introduced, for clarification.

The reason I need to be a little mean is that I was very explicitly clear.
>Diarrhea is diarrhea
>IBS wasn't bad

>>715564660
lil bro u calling something unspecified diarrhea in reply and then u call IBS slop. You followed through saying the slop is got sloppier to which I agreed, idk where your autistic brain is getting hang up on.

worth getting into this game now?

>>715564916
See, I did consider that you fumbled at following the analogy. You used the same word, but it's not used to follow the analogy that I laid out. It's not a hang-up on my end. I'm correcting your autism. Don't get it twisted.

>>715552646
I only hate them when it's the Charr or Norn wearing the flashy, vibrant and obnoxious wings
It's like these players intentionally choose the biggest races to seek attention with
"PLEASE NOTICE MEEEE""
they say, wielding their legendary 2h and covering the screen with shiny, animated wings

>>715564916
>>715565270
If what I'm saying is hard to get, I'll put it another way. It might help you get why it's an issue. You're doing a David Zucker bit, but I assume you're not being ironic or comedic about it. If you are, take this as feedback that the joke whiffed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE12zeIyPx0

>>715539591 (OP)
Charrs women owe HUMANITY sex

>>715565259
no, they're just milking their 30+ audience who have put too much of their time and money into the game to leave

>>715539591 (OP)
I haven't played since the release version and it's simply too much to get into all the new stuff

Guild Wards 2 is shit, it has always been shit when it decided to go from comfy co-op mmolite to full on MMO. It decided everything needed to be balanced and the fun builds of GW1 were left behind. The game also gets next to no updates anymore I don't even understand why people continue to play the game honestly.

>>715564445
The problem is the quantity and FFXIV barely does that in endgame.

>>715564445
GW2 is especially egregious in this regard

they need to just give us gw3 already

I didn't stay until the first expansion, but leveling was fun. It was a comfy PvE experience.
My main problem was coming from GW1 that the PvP didn't really match up. GW1 was fun because you had to get creative with the limitations, you figured out what kind of player you were up against, but in GW2 it felt like nothing mattered. Everyone had a hundred traits and slot skills and weapons to swap out at anytime, so what are you even playing against. It never felt like there was any strategy involved, just spam your shit until people die.

>>715564570
That's when I quit the game, after I saw what they did to Cantha.
>Old Kaineng was just a small point of interest on the map and it was just flooded so you saw nothing
Sometimes I think that studio actively hates GW1 and its players because they shit on it at every opportunity.

>>715539591 (OP)
Frankly i'm sick and tired of beating up bigots.

>>715569981
>hundred traits and slot skills
Out of any MMO, this doesn't really describe GW2. Even before the trait rework.

>>715539591 (OP)
Last time i played was Heart of Thorns and i still have ZERO interest to go back.

>>715558536
I did and even if I liked its atmosphere, it's not even a real MMO, you can only meet the other players in cities. GW2 is the superior product if your opinion isn't not tainted by nostalgia googles

>Go check what the new elite specs are
>IClickbait vids of ESL's ooking the fuck out and "speculating"

WoW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GW2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FF14

>>715573136
It's weird how much viral marketing they're doing only now when they're making shitty mini expansions

>>715539591 (OP)
why would I buy a new expansion when they are over priced

>>715573136
Warrior gets Paragon
Necromancer gets Ritualist
Mesmer gets Bard

>>715573494
Who gets Dervish

>>715574523
probably no one since their identity is so tied up in the scythe and the new elite specs aren't doing anything with weapons

>>715574523
Nobody. They aren't bringing back all the missing GW1 classes, just those two. The dumbasses refused to even name what the new elite specs are and instead are putting out slow blog posts leading into a beta to play as them next month.

>>715539591 (OP)
Has 4chan ever talked about this game? You would think GW1 was some kind of mega-hit and GW2 was DoA if you went by /v/ discussion but 2 outsold 1 by almost 3x and has outlived it by over a decade. After ESO was confirmed dead its probably going to lead to GW3 being the only MMO that actually releases in the next decade too, which will probably also completely outsell GW1.

>>715574908
>2 outsold 1 by almost 3x and has outlived it by over a decade
it's almost like they stopped supporting the original in favor of the sequel, even abandoning a 3rd potential full expansion

>>715573494
>Mesmer gets Bard
This is such a weird choice. Mesmers are basically wizards who specialized in enchantment and illusion schools, with some empath shit thrown in. Bard seems like it would make more sense as a Thief specialization. I suppose they want to lean more into that thespian element Mesmer has always had going on in the background.

>>715574908
People are weird about it. There's 10 year old grudges because the game isn't like GW1, was portrayed for being different and had beta tests showing it was different but you still had people annoyed on launch day that they were swindled for a different game.
The time between release and the first expansion was so drawn out that the game was lucky not to have died, it ended with a mary-sue being killed and a lesbian kiss. The writer of that character and the salad race left shortly after but you still get her brought up as if it's a current storyline.
/gw2g/ had a bot running for a few years that would copy random posts from all over the board and reply to things in a random order in order to confuse and prevent any discussion because some autist furfag got kicked from a guild for being an autist furfag. Nobody could do anything about it.

>>715575698
I like the idea of Thief getting Bard and mesmer getting whatever icon looks like cards (gambler/trickster?). Good subversion from how bard was a fakeout back on the original class reveal.

>>715545886
>was
Still is, I fucking love those maps even as someone that started a few years ago. God tier level design, amazing meta-events.

It would help if they FUCKING confirmed what the elite specs actually were.

too busy playing unlike world of wheelchair players

>>715570379
old kaineng is the entire northeast quadrant of the map and the ruins of the old slum are there including the skeletons of the buildings that you can climb up into the sky.

what's the point of constantly lying about GW2 as wunners constantly do? is beating up the bigot not real enough?

>>715574908
You can get some conversation on /v/ going, but there’s almost always some bad faith actor complaining about shit nobody cares about
I’ve never met anyone from these threads in game. Would be cool to do T4’s, strikes or metatrains with some of y’all

>>715576226
>>715574908
>Sell game
>make it free later on
>but sell Expansion full price
No fucking shit people get piss off by this action. This is ignoring how retarded the living story setup was at the time, too.

>brought up as if it's a current storyline.
They brought back her stupid pirates in EoD.

715577962
Fuck off, shill

>>715577568
It's literally nothing. Replaced by a Cyberpunk ripoff piece of shit.
Most of that area is water like I said.

>>715549949
>I looked up meta builds and ruined the game for myself, HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING TO ME?

>>715576613
b-but our social media e-e-engagement

>>715539591 (OP)
I wonder when mmo devs will get it into their heads that if you remove all racial tensions from a setting and implement californianized sensibilities, it's no longer immersive
If it doesn't feel like your character might have to struggle against the world, it's fucking boring
>Ohhhh we're all the same on a team against the big bad evil guy of this expack
IT'S BORING
>>715565983
Also this, but unironically

Someone told me here that GW2's story became woke or something? I picked it up years back and I thought it was well written enough.

>>715578970

>>715564570

>>715539591 (OP)
this shit is still alive? how?

>>715547956
Holy mother of filterd

>>715539591 (OP)
The only fun I had was ERPing with female charr as a male human.

>>715579228
>the Tumblr posters got jobs

Reminder that the frog of truth has never been refuted.

>>715539591 (OP)
this shit was dead on arrival when they tried to make it into a shitty wow-clone
guild wars 1 was infinitely better

I don't hate GW2, I just wish i had a real sequel to GW1.

>>715575698
Mesmer already has music as part of their identity, underwater trident is siren themed and this guy is the face of the glamour skill category.

>horizontal """progression"""
I can't believe I wasted 600 hours on this shitty game