playing the battle network games and I just have to say: Thank You Keiji Inafune. Thank you.

>>715553307 (OP)
>Thank You Keiji Inafune.
I have been successfully baited. Fuck you and fuck the business man

>>715553307 (OP)
You're welcome.

>>715553307 (OP)
i still dont get why they didnt keep making battle network games.

>>715553307 (OP)
Mega Man Battle Network. A game series which can only be charitably described as boyslop. Slop games mass produced for little boys specifically, featuring little boy main characters. Others include Yugioh, Duel Masters, Yokai Watch, Fossil Fighters, and many more.

>>715554879
the sharp decline in sales after 4 likely convinced some suits that people were losing interest in battle network. if they bothered to properly space out their releases while also making an effort to not have 4 be an embarrassment, the series probably would've gone on for much longer since they had reasonably healthy sales numbers until 5-6

>>715553307 (OP)
Cool, I'm playin' the first game for the first time right now. In the poisoned water arc right now.

pretty fucked up how team protoman basically just doesn't matter

>>715554879
The series declined in sales hard after 4. I genuinely know people who liked the BN games but didn't even know they made a 6th one until the collection came out

>>715555827
>cute girls locked into a completely non-canon game
unacceptable!

>>715555686
I loved each of them in spite of their flaws and I'm sad that there's no more. I only have to play Starforce 3 now then I'm fully done with it.

>>715554879
bro they made like 15 of them or something...

>>715556452
they could have brought her back in bn6, wtf. give her shuko's slot or something

>>715555827
I like Team Protoman souls more desu, besides the story changes barely matters.

They should've spaced these games out more. I kind of want to see how these games would've looked if they had made it to the 3DS era.

>>715557198
yeah colonel soul fucking sucks, then again megaman's kit fucking sucks in bn5

>>715556795
Dual versions aren't separate games.

>>715554879
they wanted something different for the ds, which is why they turned the 3d bn game into starforce

>>715554879
Because crapcom does what they do best with good IPs and run it into the ground then abandon it unless a fluke release makes a bunch of money or its an undertapped market to get into(which admittedly BN still kind of is mechanically speaking)

>>715555827
>muh heckin canon
reddit autists need to realize that canon doesn't apply to japanese games. they'll make godzilla fight goku if they think it will get merchandise sales

in japanese brain, parts of both versions of the game simultaneously happened and didn't happen

>>715553307 (OP)
based, he doesn't get appreciated enough

>>715558392
the japanese brain is a lot like a woman's brain. things simultaneously happened and didn't happen - whatever best suits the scenario at hand

>>715553307 (OP)
I am also playing the Battle Network games and I am not impressed so far, but the combat is cool. It's not perfect, but I can forgive its issues because it's very novel and that novelty makes ti fun and also makes some of its issues easier to stomach, as I imagine they had to feel out the whole thing for themselves, it's not like most Mega Man games where there are plenty of action platformers both within Mega Man itself and beyond that could be looked to for ideas to iterate on. Some of the other stuff though, like all the fetch quests, are a bit harder to forgive.

>*never netbattles you in your path*

>>715560043
Combat's the thing that continuously improves, though it usually comes at the cost of something else mechanically.
>Some of the other stuff though, like all the fetch quests, are a bit harder to forgive.
Oh boy if you make it to 4 you're going to really suffer as that ramps up dramatically from 4 onwards to pad the otherwise short stories these games would have.

>>715555121
Lan's boyslop...

>>715553394
>business man
you're really underselling it. he's an outright conman

>>715553307 (OP)
he did more damage to japan than two nukes

Games with random encounters were only tolerable for me before I understood my own mortality.

Thamk You Con Man

>>715560389
I sometimes cannot believe that Glide.EXE never so much as got a combat sprite. Yai got top 8 in the N1 Grand Prix in 3. She's at least as good as Dex who's present in nearly every game. MAYL AND ROLL.EXE are combatants in this series

>Premise of Battle Network 5 is that you're an operator in a crack team of Navis liberating an occupied net
>has the most boring chip selection of them all

I will never not be mad. And I hate how the premise of the Undernet changed.

>>715555546
>>715555850
>BN4 is the best selling BN game to this day.
>but that was the result of the hype from BN3, when people actually played it they raged because it was shit and the next BN games sold like shit as result.
>Monster Hunter wilds already sold 10 millions.
>but people is now raging hard over its shit optimization.
This must be a PTSD scenario for Capcom, no wonder they are abusing Japanese's law to shut up Japanese critics.

>>715563931
>Inafune personally created the majority of Capcom's characters

That's a new one. Did this man have some kind of hypno-ray that he used on Western gaming media? What gives?

>>715564714
I had a lot of fun with 5's chips when I was playing it in the collection.
3 was the real stinker for me, I was struggling to put together anything all the way up to the end of the game until I just looked up where to get spice3 so I could just build a spice folder.

>>715565352
>but that was the result of the hype from BN3
More like the result of the hype from the anime, that's what made BN really blow up for a short period of time.

>>715565453
i just remember 3 was really easy to put a folder together since there was no rule limiting you to 1 PA per battle, you could just build a folder with 4 copies of every single chip in a PA

plantman + evilcut
flashman + hyperratton
2xHero folder
varsword (ESW) + anything
prism + anything
heatspread + prism + grass stage

bn3 was broken

It was a critical oversight to not feature more hot blondes in these games

>>715565791
BN3 was also the game that let you set sand, making tornado chips stupidly strong

IS SHANGHAI DONE YET

>tfw no splashwo.exe

>>715565440
You can spin the narrative yourself when Western media can't read Jap, and the Japs don't read Western media

>>715565791
I don't know many PAs beyond the basic ones that are chip123 or chipABC.
Literally the only ones I know of outside of that are Gater and Master Style or whatever its called that uses the four style chips.

>>715566029
Yes, actually. It's "done."
As in, after years of no updates, SHNecro has finally decided to close the book on the project. It will remain unfinished.

>>715564435
If by some curse they make a gacha BN game i hope they keep glide as an unusable navi that is still considered a top netbattler

>>715557760
And Starforce 1, gameplay wise, is such a step down from even BN4. Like good lord, why is this game so bare bones?

>>715566216
yeah, it's pretty wild. i dont' think Inafune outright lied, but he did a lot of insinuation, and very little explanation fo what others did, and let the media attribute everything to him. Almost everything in his IGN 2009 profile here >>715563931 is brazenly wrong.

>>715566029
Its main game is done, and that's the important part since BN post games are generally ass

>>715566306
No. Tell me you're lying. PLEASE

>>715565453
bn3 had annoying viruses and bosses but had broken chips to make up for it

bn5 just has annoying viruses and bosses that waste your time because of liberation missions but the chips still suck

>>715566029
chrono x going on for 15 years of dev time now lol

>>715566360
my guess is that bn 3d was gonna be a remake of bn1 given how much star force 1 borrows from bn1 and how much of later bn sf2 and 3 take.

Whats the best way to play the series now?

>>715566715
The Collection, hands down.

>>715566715
On a GBA or DS

>>715566715
Collection. It's expensive but it's the best we got.

>>715566715
Collection, start with 2 ideally as BN1 is pretty barebones

>>715554879
Because tricking mentally ill tendies into buying 2 separate overpriced incomplete rom collections is far more profitable than making a whole new game
Anyway, Shanghai.EXE is your battle network 7, take it or leave it

>>715566715
Any version, but obviously play them in release order for God's sake.

>>715557334
I was about to list off the positives of Team Colonel's souls, but I reread your reply, and yeah, COLONEL Soul itself fucking sucks, like come on, this is the last Soul of the game, Proto Soul is so much better.

>>715566581
Drillarm is one of the best chips ever, katana is fun too.

>>715566241
if you want to ruin your enjoyment of the game learn how 2x hero and varsword (elemental sonic wave) are executed

>>715566715
The collection has a woke disclaimer which disrespects the original writing and says it's offensive by today's standards etc etc. You might not care, but it's something to be aware of in case that's a deal breaker for you as I know it is for some people.

>>715556960
Nah, what I would have done is remove one of the guys that gives the same element, in this case either remove GroundMan or DustMan. Same thing for Gregar version, in this case remove Chargeman since Gregar already has a Fire Navi and replace him with like NumberMan, because its really weird that Higsby doesn't appear AT ALL in BN6. Like, just make him a friend of Tab's dad or something, hell it would give some character to Tab, who is nothing but a yes man to Lan.

>>715567360
Did they censor it or just put up a disclaimer?

>>715567507
Just a disclaimer AFAIK

>>715566715
Ignore the faggots recomending the collection, they're literal shills.
The collection has input delay, shitty ass borders, forces you to mod just to fix the shitty text and the only "pros" that it has are literal cheats.

1's best version is operating shooting star, it actually turns the game tolerable
3 has an excellent romhack that makes it so that you never have to un/equip a really fucking annoying program. 100% worth using it on a first playthrough
5 Double team DS has some decent QoL featurest, I'd play that one if you have a 3/DS
6 is the only game that is actually better on the collection since it's too much of a hassle to get both an english translation romhack to restore the japan exclusive content AND also fix the fucking retarded postgame crisis music playing nonstop

The collection also doesn't include 4.5 which is fun___ with a romhack that makes the game play like an actual battle network game instead of the retarded autobattle shit they attempted doing

>>715567035
I don't even think I'd be so upset if Colonel Soul didn't look fucking rad. Megaman looks like a commander here and that jet black and red with orange accents is great on him

>bound to object chips
>Arms Change is just dumb shit like cannons

>>715567254
>varsword (elemental sonic wave)
I cannot believe how insanely powerful this one chip is. You can genuinely one shot Flashman beta with this one chip

>>715567562
>the collection sucks, you have to mod it to make it good
>here's the real best games, which you all have to mod to make good
fuck off lol

>>715567507
>>715567541
Just a disclaimer, nothing is changed translation wise of the English script for the games, and when it came to translating stuff that wasn't before, they kept somethings, like The Count of Groundsoaking Blood, straight up didn't change his name nor his Blood Lance and Rain attack. But, this also means we still have the original translation for BN4... which is ass.

>>715567930
>the collection sucks, you have to mod it to make it good
You HAVE to mod them to get the default GBA experience while modding the GBA games actually improves them
Also, modding the collection is a hassle compared to just downloading a prepatched rom

Now get cancer and die faggot nigger tard

>>715566715
The collection for sure since it has online play, fixes bugs in the originals that would crash the game, fixes overpowered glitches in pvp (but allows you to still perform them in single player so you can still mess around with them) and includes all sorts of japan exclusive content for the games.
Switch is technically the best platform for it because many years from now whenever the servers go down, you'll still be able to do local wireless pvp on Switch.

>>715567982
>BN4

I really feel like an exception should've been made for that game. It's actually unintelligible sometimes

>>715567982
Atleast its unintentionally hilarious just for the sheer volume of TL mistakes, which can be a perk considering the actual story content of the game is filler and hot garbage

>>715567562
>they're literal shills.
I didn't pay a cent for my copy. It's still the best way to play the series. Suck my cock, faglord.

>>715553307 (OP)
Whats with all the battle network threads lately

>>715567982
Assuming it was a retranslate it all or leave it all situation, I'll gladly take BN4's translation so we can keep BN2's translation.

>>715567710
Arm Change also sucks in that it resets your Buster Charging level to one, no matter what programs you're using, said charge is SLOWER than the Soul's default charge attack, Screen Divide.

>>715568149
>I didn't pay a cent for my copy
The faggot shills who defended it for the paid multiplayer modes did tho

i used to think shadowman was hot shit in TC because he could free roam liberation maps, but numberman's and toadman's skills are essential

toadman himself as a playable navi is terrible though

>>715565352
BN's tragic cycle is oddly similar to what DMC went through for 1-3
>first game sold reasonably well for a new ip, had pretty good critical acclaim
>second game sold well primarily due to the good will garnered by the previous game, but the abysmal quality of 2 killed a substantial portion of series interest
>third game was an objective improvement over the previous one, but still sold substantially less back in the day due to the aforementioned good will that kneecapped
it's not like i'm bitter over DMC still making a comeback while BN got retired, but it is dissapointing in retrospect
>>715567562
>input delay
i've literally never noticed this, and the only things i heard about it online was related to BN1
>shitty borders
they added a borderless option in a later update. should've been in the base collection, but it's there now
>have to mod in new text
big fucking deal lol. even if you can't mod it in, it doesn't stop you from enjoying the game
>only "pros" are literal cheats
you already mentioned 6's postgame being implemented into the ENG translation, retard. that's a pretty big positive that isn't just some busted chip
even then, the smooth implementation of the patch cards allows you to more easily access Bass XX in BN4/early Bass in BN5
>>715567982
>we still have the original translation for BN4... which is ass.
might be a positive or negative, depending on how much you enjoyed the butchered script. i personally wouldn't care either way

>>715553307 (OP)
This shit ain't Megaman

>>715570604
Um it literally is sweetie. Educate yourself.

>>715570604
fuck you mean

>>715567562
You're a lying nigger.
The only collections with input delay are Classic and X because it's emulated trash. BN and Z/ZX collections are actual ports.

>>715571135
BN isn't entirely emulated. There's a translation layer. Oddly enough, Switch 2 uses the same method to run every Switch 1 game.

Some great quotes in this series

>>715566715
Just emulate all of them.

>>715571620

>>715571620
Me when I post söyence 'jaks

>>715571716
>clean that shit up, protojanny.

>>715571760
For you

>>715571819
kek

Still can't believe how much BN managed to predict correctly about internet culture

Lookin' Good!

Recently beat 5 but don't have it in me to 100% it like I did the last 4 games, probably 4 to blame for that.
Which BN6 should I start with? They're the only BN games I haven't played yet.

>>715571819

>>715555686
Are you playing the GBA version on a DSi?
My man, you need to play the DS version with the fan translation patch, you're missing out on important improvements and an added chapter.
Like * code chips and a mini-map on the touch screen!

>>715572257
I'm too far in to restart

>>715572257
BN1 and 5 DS just got me wondering if anyone has tried doing an EXE series decompilation.
It seems like the sort of project the guys at Rockman EXE Zone would take up, after pulling miracles like the EXE 6 restoration patches, Star Force DX, the Tango battle program for online play with rollback netcode, and the translations of the two Keitai mobile games.

The EXE 6 ROM hacks were already very impressive, but imagine the possibilities if all of the main games were decompiled. DS and 3DS ports, retro handheld ports, cross-title content like a boss-rush focused hack with the full virus and boss roster across the series, and battle chips too.

>>715571620
even if BN5 doesn't have the same charm that I love about BN1-3, I do think it has my favorite Mr. Progs in the series. the abandoned oran island ones are oddly memorable to me for some reason

>>715572180
Sadly I only have this left

>>715572894
It's also go the Lord of Much Joking.

>>715572920

>>715572920
i think 4chan still uses this banner

>>715555850
Which one was 4? The one with the SRPG minigame?

>>715573491
4 was the one where you had to play the game 3 times to get all of the scenarios

>>715573491
4 was the tournament.

We have become masters of science!

>>715573551
>>715573576
You know it might be a good thing I can't remember shit about these games its probably time for a replay

>>715573674
i love battle network retardkino

Jacking in rn

I am still upset over how StarForce had a rushed ending and how we will never know which girl Geo choose.

>>715576357
Least geo kept most of his friends, by BN6 just about all of lans old friend group is relegate to mail or a small appearance apart from chaud

>>715577974
it says a lot about how the series treats lans friends when luna sonia and pat do more for geos character in their scenarios in sf1 than lans friends do in 6 games and spinoffs

>>715553307 (OP)
Thank you Inafune. Thank you.

>>715578448
That is because Lan didn't need character development. Geo changed during the three games, he went from an emo fag in SF1 to being the one that tells the other to stop being emo and never give up after Luna was LITERALLY VAPORIZED in SF3.

>>715577974
>>715578448
It's honestly sad looking back on Lan's friends and seeing just how shafted they were
>Mayl and Dex are alright in 1, Yai is pretty much non-existent
>same with 2 but saving Yai is at least the focus of one chapter
>3 has everyone goin for the tournament, get some Dex focus as well
>4 throws Yai out the window again, and Dex and Mayl are Red Sun only, so if you didn't play that one they're pretty much non-entities
>5 throws them to the curb again, straight up making them sagging bodies because their Navis get jacked
>6 AGAIN throws them to the curb and their replacements are a worst Dex and fucking TAB
The only load in SF was Zak.

>>715554879
BN4 fucked up so bad that BN5 and 6 can’t save the franchise itself from dying despite being better.

>>715579404
And yet I still prefer Lan
I just couldn't get into SF's cast, because the group dynamics were changed around due to secret identity stuff, which reduced how and when other characters can get involved, not at all helped by how the radio waves felt like a regression from internet stuff in BN (as arbitrary as BN's internet shenanigans were)
I know Kamen Rider was enjoying a resurgence at the time, which is why SF is the way it is, but I just didn't gel with it

>>715573491
The one where 80% of its content are filler tournaments that have nothing to do with the actual main story and you have to replay it 3 times in order to access the post game

>>715579404
they literally give lan character development in 3 after the flamman scenario and after megaman dies but they threw it all out of the window by the time bn4 happens.

>>715565852
Singlehandedly supercharging the birthrate of Creamland with Princess Pride.

>>715578448
BN i think was largely a fluke from the get go, they threw out an idea and it took off and CC wanted one out within the following yr, they didnt even care about continuity until 3, then just go up/down with it in 5/6. SF atlest had some time to stew while it was being worked on alongside BN6 so i always figured that's why its writing was bit more firm

Did MMBN enthusiast hate that card game take on the concept that came out recently? I forget what the name was but it didn't get that many reviews.

>>715581016
One Step From Eden or something else?
If Eden, I think BN fans weren't too keen on it being only battles with roguelite elements, but I'm sure it appeals to some

>>715581016
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2730540/CardenCiel/
Found the game. I guess 700 reviews isn't that bad.

>>715581197
Oh right, the IntiCreates game, I forgot.
Kind of similar to One Step From Eden, it seemed to have its fans, but not necessarily universally liked by BN fans

>>715571819
Huh big guy?

>>715581197
>>715581248
it is a simple fact battle network system mechanics are not fit with rogueslop

>>715581426
why not?

How were the humor programs so consistently SHIT

>>715579872
>5
>better

>>715581496
because the battle system is complementary to the puzzle and overworld navigation, it's not something you can actually solely rely for

>>715581426
I don't think it's that a roguelite with BN battle mechanics can't work, it's more that some people also enjoy the overworld exploration and all that. Taking those away results in an inherently different experience, which may be fine to some, not so much to others.

You will never reach truth

>>715581601
5 was mechanically a step up from 4, along with fixing how pointless dark chips were in 4, and just better story pacing though coming off 4 that aint a very high bar. Really just came down if you liked/disliked liberation missions

>>715582171
THAT FUCKING RAT

I have a vague memory about some StarForce manga where everyone was "the most smug motherfucker in the universe", was it real or a fever dream?

>>715582315
I LOVE Liberation Missions. I know people hate it but they are the best example of a minigame for me. My problem with 5 is that the chip library sucks

>>715553307 (OP)
The battle network games never cease to impress me. Remember that this game and all its sequels came before smartphones and successfully predicted things like cryptocurrencies, burning people's houses down remotely via insecure oven software, ubiquitous internet access and the internet-of-things. Possibly more.

>>715582557
>dark chips end up being real

>>715566542
Well, it's finished up to the final boss and about half of the postgame. It's done just not double done.
It can't be helped.

>>715582667
What would be the real life counterpart to dark chips?

>>715582557
To be fair, PDAs, internet, cell phones and the like already existed by the time BN was being made, and had good enough adoption rates, especially in japan. It's mostly just following the trend from there.
Even the AI assistant thing that net navis are could be thought of adaptations of things like Ask Jeeves and Microsoft Bob.

>>715581802
I guess if you expected more and only got battles with roguelite rewards then yeah that would be disappointing

>>715582730
Probably if we get brain chips, dark chips would be some black market modification that maybe tricks brain into releasing signals for more dopamine and such
Drugs, basically

>>715581802
As much as I hate to say it I think boss areas having stupid gimmicks actually helps the games from getting overly repetitive.

>>715582859
And maybe, just like in BN5, someone will come up with a way to use the benefits without the consequences.

>>715582859
how about brain chips that operate on a subscription model and inject ads into your ears or eyes because that's something we will definitely see irl once those chips develop

>>715583085
Speaking personally, no implants are going near my body unless the hardware and software are FOSS

>>715583170
I'm not actually sure what kind of software those heartbeat regulators run on

>>715553307 (OP)
I know a lot of /v/ hates Inafune because they got conned by MN9's Kickstarter but I really like his art and character designs tbqh

>>715582859
So Twitter? Nebula Grey is described as a kind of collective unconscious for all of the hateful feelings humanity has for each other. It thrives on negativity and it turns that negativity into power. In fact Soul Net, a system that was supposed to utilize empathy to allow people to connect to one another, was corrupted by Nebula Grey to draw out the most negative emotions everyone has and push them to the forefront.

>>715582171
T code is so good in hard mode because of shit like this.

>>715583226
imagine getting your heartbeat regulator hacked and hold for ransom

if you read this you will be deleted

>>715583226
They're closed source. Which is retarded.
Funny story by the way, you could remotely brick about 500k pacemakers before 2019
https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/firmware-update-address-cybersecurity-vulnerabilities-identified-abbotts-formerly-st-jude-medicals

>>715555827
>>715556452
>>715557198
I haven't played 6 in a while, but wouldn't "double team" be the "canonized" version of 5? I don't remember anything exploitly being referenced there other than Colonel and his OP existing.

>>715583543
Sorry, meant to paste the archive.org link.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190814220559/https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/firmware-update-address-cybersecurity-vulnerabilities-identified-abbotts-formerly-st-jude-medicals

>>715583594
It's because 6's entire core plot revovles around baryl/iris and if you play team protoman baryl makes all of 1 appearance at the end of that game, yet in 6 lan acts as if he's known baryl for some time, so team colonel has to be the "canon" version of 5 for 6 to make any sense. DS remake of 5 just puts both games into 1 cart, you still have to choose which team to play

>>715582550
Personally didn't care for them when I first played 5 on the GBA, but when I get to it again in the collection, I'm cheesing the fuck out of all of them.

>>715583082
>waggle you hand in a clenched fist and release within FIVE seconds of doing so
>if you miss the timing, your brain will trick you into thinking someone is beating the shit out of you

>>715579548
i'll maintain that mamoru was easily the best implementation of a friend character for lan, and it's a shame that he was only relegated to one game. the scene where hub talks to him about going through with the surgery beats the fuck out of anything mayl/yai ever went through with lan
>>715583383
soul net is honestly pretty terrifying as a concept if you think about what could be done with it. good thing that the person that tried to corrupt it was a retarded cartoon villain, otherwise there might have been an elf-war tier threat

>>715553307 (OP)
BN3 > BN6 > BN2 > BN4 > BN5 > BN1

I wish that Mega Man Battle Network let you choose to play as either a male presenting OR female presenting kid.

>>715583998
Honestly the fact that at least 2 people figured out how to hack the human soul is FUCKING insane. You can brainwash anyone at anytime. Unless you have a specific metal from a specific mine, your entire personality can be rewritten on a whim. How is Battle Network not a dystopia?

>>715584592
>How is Battle Network not a dystopia?
for the simple fact cyber terrorism is not as widespread as real life

>>715584592
>How is Battle Network not a dystopia?
Because it was relegated to be for children, if it were for older audiences the world of BN would really reflect how truly hellish it actually is to survive in.

>>715584592
Because everyone smart enough keeps getting their shit kicked in by an elementary schooler whose only hobby is slotting in 10000 minibomb chips per second.

>>715584372
>presenting
wot?

>>715555546
4 was good

>>715585693
4 was terrible for a lot of reasons

>>715585037

>>715585693
>nonfactor plot the entire game until the last act
>terrible chip selection where 99% of your playthrough will be spamming airhoc ans yoyos
>2 new gimmicky are dogshit and undercooked, most souls are "balanced" for early game and only junk and number are actually worth using consistently
>missing out on every soul and mid/late game cards unless you force yourself to go through NG+ twice
For an extremely casual run-through of the game, it's "fine," but it's almost comically lacking in every single area compared to previous and later entries. At most you could argue it's better than 1.

>>715585693
only thing 4 has going for it is the improvements to the battle system like the emotion window and counter system along with the soul system. And i personally prefer styles still honestly Everything else is complete garbage

>>715585693
I agree. Its one of my favorites along with 2 and 6.

This battery puzzle is fucking vile

I'm looking for a Chng.bat. Info please!
- Megaman.EXE

>>715586112
>>2 new gimmicky are dogshit and undercooked, most souls are "balanced" for early game and only junk and number are actually worth using consistently
nigga what about guts and roll soul?

>>715585693
Based.

>>715587547
Roll soul is trash, but I forgot about Guts with the minigun chips.

>>715586112
guts, metal and search are pretty good. the rest are either extremely niche, lack a decent chip library to take advantage of or just blow. my opinion on 4 would not be as rotten as it is if i started with red sun instead of blue moon; guts is legitimately viable for the entire game due to how many good neutral chips there are, while aquasoul just rots in the stock unless you want to cheese burnerman.exe or something

>>715584181
wait, a second, that doesn't appear to be official pixel art.

>>715585875
>>715584372

>>715588272
Do they not know that the human race would be extinct if heterosexuality wasn't normal?

>>715588435
They are just academics who want to write essays endlessly. They don't care. None of their ideas have any applicability in the real world. They just wan to criticize.

There's no testing, no real world application, no research, so none of it matters. It's just a manifestation of their own insanity.

Thoughts?

>>715588184
Fire soul was pretty good, a shame Blue didn't have anything like it.

>>715553307 (OP)
Keiji Inafune had nothing to do with this series.

THESE....
appeaw to be megaman posts

>>715588571

This is why the Chinese are going to takeover. Western academia is a walking corpse rotting from the inside destroying everything it touches.

>>715588571
The issue is that people take them seriously. These "theories" are basically shitposts, yet a disturbing number of people believe them.

He walks the thin line between chad and chud

>>715591627
I'd say he earned be closer to the former

>still no new games with mmbn's battle system

>>715553307 (OP)
1. why did they stop making battle network games
2. how has not a single other player in the industry (not even indies) tried making a spiritual successor with that type of battle system

Still waiting for the Alpha Revolt game.
The entire internet and every Navi (Minus Bass) dies in it.

>>715592283
No one wants to do the work of making a zillion chips and viruses

>>715592283
>>715592203
We should make our own spiritual successor. I'll make the logo.

I'm going to make a BN-like. Post what you want to see in it.

>>715592771
elem sonic spam

>>715591982
I still can't understand how an eco-terrorist completely changed character into a housewife for shota Kaiba.

>>715592771
Don't make a BN-like, make a proper Battle Network fangame, something that plays exactly like BN. No compromises. or you'll end up with shit that nobody likes like One Step From Eden.

>>715567982
BN2's translation is objectively worse than BN4's and I will die on that hill
I can't even understand what Ribitta is trying to say half the time

>>715584181
middle schooler pussy feels best.

>People are now shitting on 2
The election tourists that have been shitting this board up for years have gone too far this time.

2 and 3 have always been overrated.

>>715592283
For awhile CC had copyright on just about everything that went into BNs system, navicust included. Then there's just the fact its a niche market in general

>>715592771
Hey, I'm making one too. Based also on MMSF. Good luck with yours.

>>715592283
Any project worth a damn was C&D'd by Capcom.
At least this one's main game was completed and the dev had to only stop at the post game stuff when Capcom dropped the hammer on him.

>>715593376
How much jurisdiction does crapcom have to shut down projects like that?
Like surely "player team and enemy team move/fight on a respective grid" isn't grounds for them to flag an entire game for copyright?

>>715572257
Didn't know they also released a DS version
All 6 BN games?

Would you Chaud's load?

>>715594237
>How much jurisdiction does crapcom have to shut down projects like that?
Legally probably not much, but its enough to stop others from trying due to not wanting to deal with the monetary/time waste that it could potentially be.

>>715593898
To be fair that one was entirely on the dev for trying to make money off of it, he was fine up til that point then had sights locked on that game to the point it got pulled twice if i remember right

>>715594435
Yes!

>>715594435
that navi is just a midget in snowgear

>>715592979
Because the writers were silly, but hey, made Anetta more likeable.

>>715585875
>Outward expression of gender
>Describes it with sex-based terminology
Oh no. It's retarded.

Actually the intent is to obfuscate biology and social constructivism, so that the former can be ignored and swept under the rug.

>>715595526
Jesus christ, I forgot Laserman just rips off the guy's arm.

>>715594435
lol I saw this line earlier for the first time and was rather confused. Been a while since I played a game with mistakes in the script like this.

>>715595526
>nearly impervious to all attacks except dark chips and light
>gets btfo by the biggest jobber in BN4
this is why I can't take the anime seriously

>>715555827
Man, the story basically doesn't matter in all the games. Hence all the resets? Which is fine, its really about the gameplay.

>>715573019
If you think about it, isn't Lan and Megaman is like us with chatgpt?

>>715554879
>bro just keep making games forever! Consoomption is good!
Kill yourself, you gluttonous faggot.

>>715557334
Genuine skill issue dude.

>>715581197
>>715581248
>>715581426
It's not like I hate the mechanic, the color just disturb the fuck out of me, it's repulsing

>>715554879
They made six of them relatively quickly and probably just didn't know what to do with it after that. StarForce was then trying some new idea but I think ultimately there was just a lack of ideas and motivation

>>715567035
Colonel Soul is good because it is interesting. Object chip folders have a very different playstyle compared to typical folders.

The navis are real...

>>715585693
Yes. True. It has arguably the most difficult virus battles and also has infinite post game with the resets.
Also double souls, which are the best form change

>>715553307 (OP)
Objectively
BN5 > BN3 > BN4 > BN2 > BN6 > BN1

>>715597663
Maybe Grok actually is based

>>715595526
>ShadeMan.EXE
>fucking D E L E T E D
Lordy.

>>715596878
game is way too weeb for my tastes but the deck builder combined with the bn grid has potential

>>715582557
>surely nobody will be retarded enough to hook their fridge up to the internet
Why didn't we listen?

>>715553307 (OP)

>>715553307 (OP)
b

>>715602005
>>715602967
It's over bwo. Franchise is dead.

>>715594435
Fun fact, the Legacy Collection mod manager is called ChaudLoader.
https://github.com/RockmanEXEZone/chaudloader

>>715595916
Have you seen what happens to Dr. Regal in the anime?

>>715566715
Generally the most recent collections. But if you wanna try the X series it's better to just emulate it.
>X3 Zero project makes several changes that legitimately makes it the superior X3 experience even if you only care about X
>X5 improvement mod scraps the convoluted part system and puts Alia in the kitchen where she belongs
>X6 improvement mod...honestly still pretty shit all things considered but might as well play it over vanilla anyway
>X7 not worth playing outside of laughs
And then of course you've got the X8 Demake, though it doesn't really replace X8, really just a whole other experience.

>>715605164
It's also worth mentioning that the X Legacy Collection has atrocious input delay for the SNES trilogy.
Like, really, really bad delay on every button press. Pulling off a Hadouken in X1 became unreasonably difficult.
Capcom recognised what a problem it was and worked to avoid that problem for the Zero & ZX, and Battle Network collections.

Oh there's also an SA1 performance patch for X1, which removes some of the slowdown, though I'm not sure how good it is.

>>715592283
BN is the one megaman ip that Capcom knows can actually make money if they get off their asses so they're quick to C&D anything that remotely resembles it

>>715554879
Because Battle Network 4 was a sharp decline for the series and led to lower sales if I remember right. Pair that with the fact they went Level-5 in how many MMBN games they released on top of jumping on the dual version bandwagon. Once 6 ended they did Star Force to try and branch out and try something similar but new and you can see how that worked out with SF3 literally being a limited print when it came out which is why it's so expensive nowadays and OSS never coming out in the west.

>>715605585
Yeah, the same thing happened with Devil May Cry 2, it sold on the merits of DMC1, and tanked the sales of DMC3.
BN4 sold on the merits of BN3 and tanked the sales of BN5 and BN6.
Likewise, Star Force 2 probably tanked the sales of SF3, which also never got a European release. iirc the European release of SF2 was also neutered in some ways.

>>715605330
>>715592283
Have either of you even googled "battle network style indie game"?
There are games using the battle style and some of them even have overworlds

>>715606305
I don't think it's about games that are like MMBN as much as it is about having new officla MMBN games.

>>715562587
Fantasy Life is thriving after kicking him out and having to fix his mess.

>>715606701
One of the guys I quoted said
>2. how has not a single other player in the industry (not even indies) tried making a spiritual successor with that type of battle system
and the other
>they're quick to C&D anything that remotely resembles it
So no, its not just about official mmbn games.

>>715606305
They all changed the mechanics too much. Only Shanghai.exe scratches the BN itch.

>>715606781
My bad, I didn't read and assumed instead.

>>715592771
Mayl buttocks

Any reason to get the collection vs emulating?
Achievements aren't a big deal to me, and I wouldn't try 100%ing it anyway.

Asking because the Fanatical Bundle deal has it for $6.

Kind of want to get a few things from it.

Should say I think it's $13 for both BN collections

okay never mind, I don't see it at all as part of the bundle, must have misremembered since they have other MM collections ah well

>>715609434
Collection has online battles but that scene is probably pretty dead this long after the release

>>715609434
$6 is cheap as hell, just get that.

>>715609434
You can use E-reader content without inputting gameshark codes

Magnet Soul > Knight Soul
Shadow Soul > Gyro Soul
Tomahawk Soul = Napalm Soul
Search Soul > Number Soul
Toad Soul >>>>>>> Meddy Soul
Proto Soul >>> Colonel Soul

>>715554879
I dont get why no indie devs tried to copy its formula yet. Specially considering how popular deck builders are right now in the indie scene

>>715606713
Surprisingly fun game. I wonder what it would have looked like with the conman at the helm.

>>715610067
I can think of two off the top of my head

deck battlers in general are pretty popular but megaman.exe has been copied a few times

>>715553307 (OP)
I feel like this would be a great online mobile game.

>>715610597
The only problem is the controls. Touchscreen won't allow for quick and precise inputs the battle system requires.

>>715565352
it's the anime and new artstyle + souls + two versions (3's black was just a bugfix (heh) revision), 3fags just love to spam this cope because their favourite game wasn't the best selling which will never stop making them seethe

>>715605290
The Classic/X legacy collection games have no inputlag on the switch2. ZZX and BN are source ports, which is why they have less/no inputlag.

>>715610743
Maybe swapping the fingers on the screen for movement and pressing for a bit to shoot.

>>715571716
>AAIIEEEEE!!!
BEJITABROS...

>>715594239
Only 5 and 1 got DS ports

>>715566715
>BN1
Operate Shooting Star with the translation patch on the DS. It's just an objective improvement in every way.
>BN2 through BN4
You have three choices which are
1) Use the relocalization patches to translate the games correctly.
2) Use the Wii U VC roms which instantly grant you the multiplayer chips, e-Reader content, and Chip Gate content when you access the multiplayer menu in each game.
3) Play through it using the Legacy Collection and just append the text fixes if you have hacked systems or are on PC.
>BN5
You can see the previous choices for 2 through 4, or you can just play 5 DS since it's pretty much just an improvement on the GBA versions and implements everything smoother. 5 DS also has an undub for the voices they added in that version.
>BN6
You have two choices which are
1) Use the translation patch for the Japanese versions so that you retain all the content since the western versions cut them out.
2) Play the Legacy Collection which implemented them back in and naturally has you using the Chip Gate content.
>Battle Chip Challenge
This is on GBA and Wonder Swan (N1 Battle). GBA version is translated, WS isn't. There is also a Chip Control romhack to allow you to play it without being at the mercy of RNG but that's up to you since it's not the intended way to play it.

4.5 (GBA), Network Transmission (GC), and Battle Network WS (Wonder Swan) only have one version to play. 4.5 and WS both have translation patches.

When it comes to Star Force
>SF1
Star Force DX. It's a romhack that is functionally a Pokemon Yellow version of the games and the best way to play it. It makes most touch screen prompts doable with buttons, allows you to play all three versions and obtain their content in the same game, and also lets you access the Lunar Knights content which was scrubbed from the western version.
>SF2
"Not Quite DX" romhack. Makes the multiplayer requirements singleplayer and lets you get Tribe King alone.
>SF3
Base DS version is fine.

>>715556452
Pride and Ribitta are cuter than TP's hag/chink combo

>>715565352
>Series success makes BN4 sell a comparative shitload
>It's ass and everyone is turned off of the series
>BN5 sells like shit
>Execs decide to can the series mid development of 6
>BN6 sells slightly less like shit
>The success makes SF1 sell a comparative shitload
>It's ass and everyone is turned off of the series
Genuinely fucking insane cycle

>>715618154
>It's ass
It's not ass, it's just backloaded in the story. Geo is so unlikable for a good 60%+ of the game and Luna doesn't help by being a massive nag either. Everything else flows like a BN game but Geo stays depressed for nearly the entire game whereas Neku in TWEWY comparatively already started showing progress as a person at the end of week 1 which is only a third of the way through the game.

SF2 is ass though. Dear lord what were they thinking with that game?

>>715618743
The problem is that SF1 was already a style of game only the deeply mentally disturbed actually wanted to play

>>715618154
>>715618743
>>715618932
What's wrong about SF1?

:p

>>715587116
This part fucking SUCKED. One in general is a mess, it gets better with two.

>>715620221
Impressive anon, very nice

>>715620221
Nice.

Jesus Christ

>>715619913
SF as a whole is fairly divisive within the fandom. The gameplay changes caused tons of people to think they lost the plot and removed a lot of the strategy and fun by locking you to one lane instead of three and then allowing things like shields and lock-on without a chip further taking away from the deck building aspects. I remember at either SF1 or SF2's launch (I think it was SF2) people here were complaining it was super casualized. If you go look at the old /v/ archives it's still a mixed bag with people constantly calling the series garbage and then other people defending it back when SF1 released. Then they add on the new card system where it's adjacent cards or other requirements to pick multiple cards instead of the alphabet system and that further added to the disappointment.

The story was essentially retreading the exact same character tropes as before except not-Lan was depressed for most of the game and since the story takes forever to start moving you had to deal with this mope complaining about his missing dad and Omega-Xis forcing him out of his house to fight stuff over and over. Luna is just Yai with drills, Sonia is Mayl, Bud is Dex, and Zack is Higsby but a kid. This led to many people quite disliking SF1 as a whole since it felt like a copy of BN but done worse.

SF2 comes out and even though SF1 was a mixed bag people were still willing to give it a shot, and I don't think I need to explain how bad SF2 was with its story, the nonstop Mu maze retreads, Sonia acting like a moron seemingly forgetting everything that happened in SF1, and insane encounter rate.

SF3 was when it finally found its own footing and kicked it into gear, but by that point it had already lost its audience and it took ages for people to convince people to play it. It's widely considered the best SF game and many people put it on par with some of the best BN games.

>>715621626
Thanks.

>>715610067
one step from eden is roguelike battle network

It's a shame SF was a failure of a franchise, a lot of the designs are way better than BN

>>715622018
The overkill/boss damage into noise percentage into illegal data cards is one of my favorite game mechanics.

>>715604456
kek

>>715621626
>This led to many people quite disliking SF1 as a whole since it felt like a copy of BN but done worse.
I only played BN4-6 and SF1-3 and honestly I feel like BN just have negative characters lol. Like all of its characters is a trope of something without any depth or any subversion
I really loved the story in SF1 and 3, like its very well executed with all the music timings and especially the ending in SF1 is possibly one of the best ending sequences I've played in all vidya.

Dunno if BN1-3 actually had character development but people saying the earlier games had shit combat deterred me from trying them out

>>715622018
Some of the designs were better but the battle system was waaaay worde

>>715609970
I hope you mean design-wise because Gyro soul shits on Shadow soul so hard on sheer strength that it's not fair

>>715596767
Yeah except ChatGPT is an annoying redditor leftist faggot, whereas MegaMan.EXE is a cute shota bro

>>715624290
LOL

>>715584181
I like the top right one, makes it look like she's wearing buruma. Diamonds.

Just here for Mayl, desu

>>715625075
coomer

>>715592979
because eco-terrorists are retarded and deserve death by thousand cuts

The subject line just says Mega Man, so this is now a Legends thread as well.

>>715627424
acceptable since both bn takes some ideas from legends

>>715626738

>>715628142
nigger

One day I will continue playing this series and beat 2, one day...

>>715628704
And that day is now. Do it.

>>715627424
Yep. It's Megan Man time

>>715553307 (OP)

>*jumps your link navi*

>>715592771
>>715593007
First off, an actual RPG, secondly, I was thinking the other day that it would be neat to use a system similar to Magic the Gathering to pay for chip costs instead of letter codes. Then you don't just get to make a monocode deck and spam 5 things a turn, and you as the dev have better control over what can be used with what and how powerful an individual chip is.

>>715621093
I CAN FIX HER

>>715621093
>>715631891
shuko a cute

>>715631674
Then it has nothing to do with battle network

>>715629231
Is 2 really that much of a step-up from 1? I started it and it seemed mostly the same set-up wise

>>715628704
I still haven't beaten 1, 2, or 4 Red Sun

>>715632902
Yes. Many of the mechanics were improved, it introduced wildcards (* chips), it introduced styles, the internet in general was done way better, the scenarios were better, Gospel is a fun boss and an interesting story, etc.

>>715632902
Obviously the games will be mostly the same in terms of feel. 2's story is completely unhinged, so I can't say if it's any improvement. On the other hand, there are very good QoL features introduced that become mainstays for the rest of the series.
Chip codes are right there on the chip selection screen so you don't have to hover over each one to know its code. You can run from battles without using a specific chip. The ADD function is actually useful and allows you to discard unnecessary chips for a larger chip selection for the rest of the battle. The Internet also has a more structured layout rather than the crisscrossing pathways the first game had, making them much easier to navigate.

>>715617673
>4.5 (GBA) only has one version to play and has a translation patch

Something to add is that if you don't jive with the gameplay style, which has you indirectly instructing your navi instead of assuming direct control (like the rest of the series), there's a gameplay patch that makes it play like the main series.
That's how I played it years back during lockdown, and I had a good time.
https://forums.therockmanexezone.com/rockman-exe-4-5-real-battle-network-gameplay-patch-t5461.html

>>715633329
>That's how I played it years back during lockdown
Only cucks got locked down

>>715632850
Imagine you open the custom screen and you have an energy meter with 8 bars, and say, because of the way you customized your character, 3 of them are blue and 5 are yellow. You could select chips that cost a combined total of 8 that round. You could pay for costs that required up to a total of 3 blue and 5 yellow. So, for example, a lightning-based attack that had a stun property might cost 1 of anything and 1 yellow, for a total of 2 energy.
Then when selecting attacks on the custom screen, you would be able to select a number of attacks, but it would be easier to balance as opposed to "this has a code of V and can be selected with 4 other V-code chips so you can spam 5 things a round no matter what," meaning that each individual chip could be balanced more granularly, allowing for more interesting design and customization. Letter codes don't actually allow for much customization because the best thing is always a monocode folder. You might, under the system I described, have an attack that costs 5 energy, 4 of which is yellow, and it could be a giant AOE that stuns everything, which in BN would have to just have some really gay code like X attached to it, but you could still build an X-code deck with a bunch of * chips and spam it. The system I describe would be less spam-centric and more tactical.

>>715553394
>like an anime fan on prom night

>>715621626
Honestly bad opinions all around.
>>715619913
Actually try starforce instead of ingesting a mouthbreathers opinions on superficial shit that can easily be interpreted differently depending on your own fucking viewpoint. The game essentially feels like an evolution of the BN games but also not necessarily better. Every BN loving friend I have loved the series as a whole and the story is also generally regarded to be better than BNs. The reason why you get guard and lock on is because you only get three spaces to move, the game was clearly balanced around it, still feels skill based and the transformations are just as fun if not funner than hubs. Is BN the harder game? Probably. Does that mean SF is not fun or challenging in its own right? I don’t think so. But again you can form your own opinion on it, /v/ is a terrible fucking place to ask for reviews the motherfuckers here are mostly autistic screeching faggots that will nitpick about any minor thing.

>>715635597
I already played it, dont worry. I loved it. I just wanted to know what people didn't like about it.

we love star force (1 and 3) here

>>715636026
Only if you meant DX, vanilla SF1 sucks

Should I start this series with 2 or 3?
I want a good first experience and heard 1 is kinda rough around the edges

>>715637267
If you're a pussy baby sure

>>715637267
If you start with 1 play the Operation Starforce port for DS, it has a minimap that is required to not get lost in the internet (the areas looks all the same and they only made them different from 2 onwards)

>>715627152
Cute ones will be reformed.

>>715637394
Who thought this shit was ok?
Probably Inafune.

>>715639304
Dungeons are supposed to be labyrinthic. This is kino.

>>715640530
That's not a dungeon.

>>715640530
Dungeons maybe.
Hub areas no.

>>715640747
In this case, it serves as a dungeon. You navigate the twists and turns to track down a boss fight.

Although this is the second "room" of the internet in a large interconnected map, you don't have to repeatedly traverse this map to reach the other areas, since even from the first game they figured out having multiple points of entry from the real world which serve as shortcuts.

me creating an army of bass.EXEs to shitpost on 4chan

>>715553307 (OP)
play Shanghai.EXE: Genso Network

>>715576357
Geo had some kind of shit choices to be honest
>angry, insufferable bitch """"tsundere""""
>sweet and nice idolshit that is basically a prostitute

>>715621947
and if fuckin SUCKS!!!!
instead of planing out turns w/ chip sequences you just fucking mash through a rotation mindlessly. and the best rotation is one with as little chips as possible so you can use your op ones more often. fuck that game

>>715643139

>>715643139
>Not "God, you're an idiot"
At least get her quotes right

>no shanghai.exe porn
Sad

>>715643139
It's shit.

>>715643956
>he doesn't know

>>715643139
I wish it had a Vita port. I'd play the fuck out of it then.

>>715644963
I'm amazed that AM2R, Hollow Knight and some other games got a port. Maybe if it gets comissioned to those devs they can make a port workaround.

>>715644963
shame, i had a lot of fun
i read the summaries for the planned sequels and i weep
>>715643717

>>715645493
Good job

>>715633329
That's an interesting patch.

>>715645319
AM2R was made in GameMaker: Studio 1.4 which did support Vita, so that's an easy enough question to answer.
Shanghai, IIRC, is a custom engine made in C#. It'd a bit more work.

>>715555121
Boyslop just sounds too wrong...

>>715646019
No worse than girlslop

>>715642771
And neither of them got cancer or radiation poisoning from this

>>715642771
Would stuffing an entire apartment complex with that many servers really produce a bunch of radiation like that?

>>715555121
BN was not slop, though that phenomenon does exist

>>715643139
is it in english? is it eady to install?

>>715646438
Yes and yes.
The decensor patch on the other hand isn't so easy to get.

>>715646019
Get your mind out of the gutter weirdo

>>715646551
Pretty sure the last build is already uncensored

>>715646372
It wasn't entirely slop, but it did have slop aspects.
Like the battle chip gates, or battle chip challenge.

>>715646372
>BN was not slop
Nigga they put out like 6 games in like 4 years

>>715578448
That's just the approach they decided to go with, BN is essentially a Toku show by another name, everything that happens is merely window dressing for Megaman to fight the Navi of the Week.
Of course, you can have a bit more to chew on even in a scenario like this, like SF did, but I don't think BN is worse off for it, there's a charm to being written like the average Saturday Morning Toku.
In fact, BN reminds me a lot of Gridman and I wouldn't be shocked if it turned out it was the primary inspiration to make the series.

>>715646825
Plus the anime, plus all the physical merch, plus the mobile games, plus the other BN-spinoffs like BCC and Real Operation and WS and the Gamecube game, plus the movie... They really ran with it back in the day when they realized it was a hit, and Capcom is still licensing EXE figures, but they do that for Classic and X too because it's all Megaman is good for now in their eyes.

>>715647463
I don't remember Slur being built like that

bass beating slur to death in exe stream was hilarious

>>715646064
ew

>>715647463
holy fuck

My Shanghai.exe build is 0550e1, does any shanghai.exe gamer know if my save file will work if I update to the latest build?

>>715650938
I think it still does, previous updates didn't break it.
But I wouldn't really know desu because I replayed it from the start for the last build

>>715648403
Speaking of which
>I made a code that will fuck up everything ever if misused
>time to insert it into my son's eye!
What the fuck was anime Light thinking

I have nnnochoice

wheres the freaking Boktai collection

What is the secret area supposed to be?
Who is serenade
why is bass such an asshole

>>715652405
>take your Switch 2 outside to collect sunlight
FUCKING MAKE IT HAPPEN NINTENDO!!!

>>715592283
There's some games that have done similar things but they are not quite the same.
One I can think of is One Step from Eden but that's a roguelite.

>>715654856
Roguelites are so fucking gay, why does every indie game need to be a roguelite?

>>715595526
Fucking brutal.

Growing up is realizing that this is a staple in every deck

>>715655019
It's a shame too because I honestly enjoy the game, but roguelites always feel like a cop out.
And the worst thing is it always happens to interesting games.

>>715655019
It means you don't have to think about level design.

>>715655224
>tfw areagrab* from the chip trader

>>715655019
so you don't have to actually plan the enemy placement

>>715655224
Only if it's * code.
Panel grab is underrated, it can be way meaner than Area grab if you use it to row lock.

>>715655719
>Only if it's * code in an alphabet soup folder.
Fixed.

>>715655909
* code gives flexibility in folders that need to run more than one code, but ideally you shouldn't exceed 3 codes.
Some program advances need multi-codes, but it's typically just the lamer ones that let you spam the same chip for a few seconds.

>>715655909
Depends on the game but area grab not always comes in every code that you may want for your monocode folder. And sometimes you have the option to use Metagel instead, which is a better areagrab.

>>715656036
>>715656101
All I'm trying to say is letter coded Area Grabs aren't useless.

>>715656101
Yeah, MetaGel is actually an offensive panel grab on each row, whereas AreaGrab can only reclaim the nearest column you don't fully control.
Each has their pros and cons, and certain chips and set-ups can require certain panel layouts.

>>715655224
>area grab *
>life sword 3
>full cust *
>life sword 3 again

>>715656831
BN2 made it crazy easy to stuff your folder with LifeSwd3 PAs. You just farm FireBlde *, AquaBlde *, and ElecBlde * chips from WWW Area 1 GMDs.
Virtually essential for all the Shadow viruses they stuff into post-game.

What kind of evil organization name is "WWW" anyway?

>>715657170
Most evil organizations in the real world are also three letter acronyms so...

>>715657068
Hard mode loves to put ice panels to fuck with your movement so I ended up stocking my folder full of elec chips and elec swords/blades. Feels good not having to rely on PAs for once since everything feels so weak in BN2.

>>715657170
someone suggested once that www in hebrew would be the letter vav 3 times, which is represented in gematria as the number 6, which is somewhat interesting.

>>715554879
theres like 6 + 3 starforce games anon.
9 fucking games in total

Does anyone netbattle on the switch or the pc versions of the game? The matchmaking filters make it so hard to battle. Ive never been able to find a match. Any pointers?

>>715595526
Reminder that he literally survived this.

>>715657787
It's best to make arrangements in a thread like this. The matchmaking is split up by version, but also by platform, so its pretty much mandatory.

>>715657787
Most people in the battle scene does it on the Tango client for PC so the only way to battle you in the Legacy collections is asking here or enter one of the BN Discords.

>>715658110
>BN Discords
Imagine the grooming

>>715617673
>5 DS also has an undub for the voices they added in that version.
>not wanting to hear Mega Man going AAAAAASSSRRRRRRGHHH after using Cannon1
Soulless

>>715657068
Some layouts are just there to kill you if you don't have the right chips as soon as the fight starts.
Airshoes is a chip in BN2 so this layout was awful if you got unlucky.

>>715658225
I don't make the rules, it's sad but that's the truth. BNLC pvp is pretty much a Discord Fighter, as some people call those.

ENOUGH

ENTER

CHADOWMAN.EXE

https://youtu.be/Cdgtf_55cCs
Sitting on a park bench
doo doo doo doo doo doo

>>715658662
He's so cool...

>>715658662
The massacre of Yumland...

>>715658662
>btfo'd yumland so hard one of its areas is permanently stuck with the sad bgm playing in the background

>>715657787
the matchmaking filters are retarded and the online was literally dead on arrival - at least on Steam. even if you found a match, it was delay based netcode so it's clunky as hell.

like the other guy said, download Tango (rollback netcode) and find a discord. try looking up N1GP

https://n1gp.net/

and join the discord. i'm sure there's other discords but this is probably the big one.

>>715658225
pretty sure there are a few troons in there. Like "Salad" who literally owns the N1GP discord which is the biggest BN discord I know of is probably a troon. "her" bio literally says "she/her" and her voice sounds pretty androgynous

>>715658662
casual genocide in my children's game.

>>715659586
I don't get it. How is it a massacre if everyone could just reload their Navis from backup? It's stressed in Battle Network that Megaman is special and can't be backed up, while every other Navi can, and we in fact see Protoman get restored from backup once.

>>715659906
I tried the online in Steam's BNLC back in the days of the release and didn't have any major delays so it's serviceable at least. But yeah if you don't mind just playing on PC and you aren't doing completionist shit for the collections, Tango is the optimal way to play pvp.

>>715660019
Gutsman gets restored from backup once, too.

>>715659784
>literally massacres an entire country, bypassed their security, and compromised their entire internet
>attempts to hijack the scilab mainframe and steal top secret information
>major perpetrator in massive terrorist group
>assassin for hire who has no doubt killed hundreds more
>Hi! Welcome to Team Colonel. We hope you enjoy your stay

So does that one fangame still have malware in it? lol

>>715660019
doesn't megaman get restored from a backup at the end of 3?

>>715660367
Chrono X? yeah

>>715660314
He said he was sorry

>>715660019
Only villains create backups of their navis, because if the heroes do it then it undermines the friendship/bond aspect of the setting, since it won't be "the same" netnavi you made memories with. That's why that idea gets relegated to the backrooms after 1 pretty much.

>>715660389
Not at all. He's recovered from Tadashi's ditigal bunker inside Alpha in a corrupted state and slowly repaired over the Summer and given back to Lan before school starts.

>>715660389
i recall lans dad having to scour through the remains of alpha to retrieve megaman

>>715660314
team colonel needed him more than he needed them desu. nebula wasn't man enough to go after him

>>715660314
Most of team colonel members are criminals.

>>715660019
The series isn't consistent about it, in Network Transmission there are literal BckUpChps (Back Up Chips) that restore MegaMan from a deletion.
Lan even warns you in dialogue if you're out of backups and advises you to jack out.

>>715660586
>nebula wasn't man enough to go after him
nebula was run by an absolute retard

>>715660670
characters forget that mr higsby was a cyber terrorist, it's funny how successful his business is.

>>715660820
He just needed some parenting.

>>715660836
>>715660670
also it's funny how rare it is for villains to get arrested

>>715660836
that just makes him jewish

All visitors, jack off immediately.

>>715658662
>enter ch-ACK

>>715661068
he's built like one that's for sure

>>715660836
>>715660990
>Bwahhhh... please forgive me, I just wanted rare chips.
>Ok, but don't do it again.

>>715661374
>arm gets shot off out of nowhere
>actually goes to try again
what a fucking moron

>>715553307 (OP)
I can only enjoy 6 and some of 3, the early to mid game grind is just awful in the rest

>>715661452
he does help out by giving lan his www id plus other things like warning lan about dark chips and being a part of team colonel

>>715553307 (OP)
Both star force and battle network peaked in their last games. Probably a good way to go out desu

Is all the porn in the undernet?

>>715661486
He was under the influence of the Dark Chip, hence the random murderous intent directed at his opponent despite the fact that he was easily dominating the fight and had no reason whatsoever to be pissed at Hub.

>>715661689
>Probably a good way to go out desu
Or a good way to log out, to stay in keeping with the internet references the games are known for

>>715661374
they really went crazy with gratuitous violence sometimes
did 4kids (?) edit those scenes out?

>>715566542
Last christmas thread
It is owari da

>>715569518
Are you actually comparing MMBN2 to DMC2? And saying that MMBN 1 is better than 2? What the fuck are you smoking?

>>715662158
>4kids
Kids' WB was the one in charge of localizing the anime. And yeah, they butchered it, not unlike how 4kids used to butcher their products. Last year Capcom uploaded every episode to YouTube as marketing for Legacy Collection but sadly they've been removed. Here is a video with awful quality but good enough for you to appreciate the censorship (13:00)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWo5UdaOxBM&t=780s

I'm playing shanghai.exe and I'm not sure what this request wants from me. I walked through all of cruise comp, did I miss anything?

>>715662826
The answer is not in the cruise comp, you have to find ANOTHER comp in the ship, look carefully around the ship floors, or press R everywhere like a retard, whatever works for you.

>>715661361
Or else what?

>>715662826
This request in particular tripped up everyone who tried it because actually, you do not do anything in Cruise Comp. There's a hidden/previously inaccessible jack-in point on the second floor of the ship.

>>715663027
It was always accessible, what you didn't know was the coordinates but if you knew them there was a gate that blocked That Area

>>715662493
nah, I was comparing BN 1-3 to DMC 1, BN4 to DMC 2 and BN 5-6 to DMC 3. could've made it more clear i suppose

>>715663219
bn4 and dmc2 makes sense, they even came out in the same year

>>715660670
All of them except Lan, and Lan was an Mr. Match's accomplice in bn3 so even he's a criminal. He only didn't get arrested because Chaud told him to stfu
>Higsby: WWW hacker
>Pride: Gospel member
>Dusk/Shadowman: renowned assassin/notorious criminal
>Dingo: was literally trying to steal a 100 million zenny program
>Ribitta: breaking and entering the undernet in bn5
>Baryl: Netopian general in cahoots with Dr. Fuckin Wily

>>715663324
>Ribitta: breaking and entering the undernet in bn5
jesus christ what is she a maniac

>>715663292
>BN4, Battle Chip Challenge, NT, X7 and DMC2 all came out in the same year

>>715661374
Searchman propaganda
Anime shilled him and Raika hard

>>715662909
>>715663027
>tiny little panel denoted by 2 small 1 pixel wide lines on the railing
what the fuck was the dev thinking

>>715664440
At least it's visible. BN had a lot of hidden jack-in ports that you couldn't see unless you interact with that specific spot

>finally get to undernet
>game wants me to go back to scilab, then return to undernet
I want to cry

>>715619913
SF as a whole is too easy.
I recommend playing it with that hard mode AR code that makes every enemy faster, gives them all 1.5x HP and makes changes to some other miscellaneous things here and there like your I-frames on getting hit
Makes it play more like a bullet hell

So like, what the fuck happened to Taisen?

>>715664985
Star force 3 is not fucking easy. Sure it's easy for 90% of the main game but that's legit every bn/SF game. The v3, omegas, and post game are pretty solid on the difficulty, just not ball rape tier

>>715665190
SF3 is only hard in the western version because you don't have half the fucking tools you should.

>>715664997
Probably quietly cancelled

>>715665373
Wtf was the western version missing. Only shit I know of is like the botkai shit in bn6 and the bn shit in sf1

>>715665452
they cut noise gear (sf3 equivalent to sf2 wave command codes)

>>715665524
And the secret servers.

>>715665452
There were things removed from all three SF games, and BN5 also had shit removed.

>>715665452
https://www.therockmanexezone.com/wiki/Localization_Changes_in_Mega_Man_Star_Force#Mega_Man_Star_Force_3

>>715664985
SF has the DX patch which has nice QOL changes perfectly fine for a first playthrough. I think only negative is you're stuck with Pegasus until postgame.

>>715665640
Legend mode in DX is fun

I just want a new game, megabros...
Why does capcom hate us so much?

Is X Dive worth a pirate or nah?

>>715664723
I still can't get over how MMBN could be so ahead of the curve in some areas and behind in others. The battle system is fucking timeless and they managed to make a whole RPG series without stat/skill/exp grinding, but then you play Lan following the dumbest trail of event flag bread crumbs to advance the most mindless plots

>>715665636
>>715665591
>>715665618
I hate japan wtf did we do to them outside like two little nukes

>>715665946
It's really quite simple. They tied all this shit to additional things you'd have to buy and there wasn't a market for that outside of Japan. It has historically never turned a profit. So they just cut it out of the games.
Today, however, it would absolutely work, because morons buy pointless DLC all the time.

>>715666116
They could also patch or be easier to mod. My biggest complaint about 3 is how restrictive the noise system is for regular fights, you can't build up any noise with weak multihits and there's sadly no mods/hacks for it.

What is the best megaman game?

>>715665640
Nah, DX changes it so that you earn all three of the Star Force transformations in the main story, though Pegasus is the first one you get.

>>715666491
Battle Network and Starforce. In my opinion.

>>715666491
>classic
a toss up inbetween 4 and 9
>X
X1
>Zero
Zero 3
>ZX
Advent
>Legends
Legends 1
>battle network
3 or 6
>star force
3

>>715666491
Megaman zero 3 and legends 2

How is a MMBN thread the most active thread on /v/ in 2025?

W-women bros, whats our response?

>>715666820
It just happens sometimes.

>>715667224
It's Mega MAN, not Mega Woman

>>715666820
Because that is the natural way of things. Birds fly, fire is hot, and MMBN is the king.

>>715667564
wrong thread, my bad kek

>>715667826
No. MMBN is LEGENDARY!

>>715667826
>Birds fly, fire is hot
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
who wants to tell him?

>>715663741
>Anime shilled him and Raika hard
Never was fond of this considering how he and Search Man were basically a Chaud/Proto Man copy-paste in terms of personality.

>>715668093
Raika and Searchman were popular with the female audience so they just kept the ball rolling

>>715661452
>I just wanted rare chips.
Don't we all. Higsby did nothing wrong!

>>715668830
>charge 300k for a regular Ratton1 C
I don't know how this guy stays in business.

>>715669331
Because someone actually bought it.

>>715668218
searchman a faggot

>>715659906
The entire server is full of leftoid drivel and midwit mouthbreathers unless you stick to the pvp sections or the build review threads
Unless you really wanna play bn pvp don't even bother

>>715670630
>leftoid drivel
Seriously? WHY? What do politics have to do with mega man?

>>715670928
Its a discord thing
Everyone is either a retarded redditfaggot or hiding their power level

>>715660548
Yep, and because of that (or at least implied to be so) he lost Style Chance, which is replaced by Double Souls.

>>715670630
>unless you stick to the pvp sections or the build review threads
That's what you should do. Interact with fagcord as little as possible.

>>715553307 (OP)
until next time

what did scilab do with the bits of alpha left that they recovered megaman from

i do not trust those nazis

>>715672504
used them to develop copybots (this will never bite us in the ass surely)

>>715672504
You're imagining things.

>>715668093
Would have been nice if he like, kind yet reserved to counter Lan's main protag aura and Chaud's Rival-ness.

>bump limit
Bye BN bros...

>>715594435
This font is disgusting. Why these collections always fuck up the fonts? It's the same with FF Pixel remaster