> Haha you're complaining about hackers while playing as Sombra!

Fuck off. Literally invisible at all times yet they always know where i am and always the McCree hitting headshots even from super far away or the Ana never missing a single hit and always knowing where i am. Not even subtle.

Don't know why people play this shit when they are filled with cheaters with aimbot and wall hacks. Marvel Shitvals is the same.

>>715563207 (OP)
Console doesnt deal with this problem.

>>715563207 (OP)
if you’re not cheating, you’re losing
>>715563270
>what are CRONUSfags & crossplayfags

>>715563443
PS5 disabled Cronus.

>>715563731
What the
Why

>>715563207 (OP)
> Shooters are genuinely unplayable, they are filled with hackers

I reached this realization about 10-12 years ago. It's why I don't even bother with shooters anymore. You aren't even playing against people, you're playing against a meat puppet facilitating a bot's perfect accuracy and awareness.

And easily 30% of players in any given online shooter are these meat puppet bots. It makes fights almost formulaic. The dynamism disappears. In many rounds it's literally just bots fighting bots with their meat puppets observing. Each puppet individually thinking it's expressing some kind of skill while the bot does all the actual work.

And the human players - well they're all shifting over to games that aren't made for the bots+meatpuppets.

>>715563731
Anon Cronus still works on PS5 lmao. That block worked for like one firmware version but Cronus team just updated their shit and thats it. Same with Xim issue on console Siege for example and "amazing" Ubisoft detection of it that lasted for two weeks.

this has got to be the weirdest cope from aimlets i have ever heard

>>715564036
>And easily 30% of players in any given online shooter are these meat puppet bots.
Not every single person that kills you is a cheater, anon.

>>715563207 (OP)
you sound like your bad at the game, Im 6 months clean off of overwatch and it feels good. I've been playing since season 1 on and off. Anyways, If the ana is hacking what stops me, D.va from killing her? same with mccree? even if a d.va is cheating, a zarya still beats it.

>>715566402
It used to be a nice curb to hackers to just go DVA and dive them before role lock
She was just better genii for the longest time

>>715563207 (OP)
Looks more like your widow is useless so the enemy team has plenty of time and headspace to look for a sombra, it's pretty easy to just keep your head on as swivel
Post video of them cheating if you're so sure
t. sombra main

>>715563207 (OP)
>>715564036
I run into a cheater maybe 1 out of every 100 matches. I think what you're describing is people who are better at the game than you.

>>715567442
>>715564636
This is what everyone, especially cheaters, say. Always it's downplayed, there can't possibly be that many cheaters.

Then you look at the actual results from anti-cheating efforts taken by valve and you see that, no, there really are that many active cheaters. It gets even worse as you expand the scope of the game, as something like battlefield essentially guarantees every single match has at least one cheater in it, even if they're "only" 1% of the game's population.

Nobody seems to understand just how huge 1% is already, especially for a demographic that ruins everything for everyone else. You can destroy entire countries with 1% of the general population being subversive cheating parasites. Nevermind a competitive videogame.

>>715563207 (OP)
>mauga is carrying with 0 perks equipped

???

>>715567712
Well clearly even if there are as many cheaters as you say it's not that big of a deal because it hasn't seemed to affect my winrate. Maybe you're just bad at the game anon, there's nothing wrong with that.

>>715567768
Probably just swapped

>>715567768
The Juno is 9 and 0 with reasonable damage considering its a silver lobby

>>715568018
Nobody cares about your winrate

Players are moving away from first person shooters because the aggregate affect of cheaters is ruining that genre of game for everyone.
If you think you're all fine and dandy playing with cheaters all the time, that's great, you can keep doing that, and nobody will care, because they are playing other games now. Everyone is happier - you get your cheaters, they get to play against actual people.

>>715563207 (OP)
if a pvp shooter has aim assist, it's automatically filled with worthless console cheaters.

>>715563207 (OP)
Letting Russia, India, and Israel on the internet was such a fucking mistake.

>>715568567
>Players are moving away from first person shooters because the aggregate affect of cheaters is ruining that genre of game for everyone.
You've manufactured an entire social trend as a way to cope with being shit at shooters

>>715568567
>Nobody cares about your winrate
the goal of the game is to win, if cheaters don't affect your ability to win then why do cheaters matter?

>>715563207 (OP)
>not playing Mercy
why even play this shit-ass game? she is the only fun character

>>715569198
You're creating fictions in your head imagining that cheating doesn't exist in your shooters, while valve's research and anti-cheating efforts as well as general player sentiments, indicate that is completely false. Cheating is a significant problem and it's driving players away. Nobody wants to play with cheaters, much to the chagrin of the self-professed idiocy from guys like you: "I'm not a cheater, but I would definitely still play with cheaters given a choice because it doesn't affect me personally".

It's everything short of a direct statement that you're a cheater.

>>715569302
If it doesn't matter to you, then feel free to keep playing with cheaters. It does in fact matter to most people, and they are moving away from competitive first person shooters where cheating is rampant, and towards games where the cheating either isn't as bad, or it's pointless to do. What you feel or think about it does not matter. What the aggregate player population is doing is happening regardless of your feelings about it.

And eventually when you cheaters are left playing with each other, you'll stop playing too.

>>715569331
Mercy is the most boring support

>>715567442
i mostly play older shooters but you're right
you're going to run into people who have been no lifing the game for a fucking decade and have memorized all spawn areas, where you'll be spawning at in relation to your team, how long it will take you to get to XXX area

also soundwhoring is huge now; most people don't take that into account and run around like headless chicken and scream wallhacks when in reality you're stomping around like a T-rex and people can hear you coming

battlefield is rife with cheaters, though, especially V and 2042. call of duty - i'm not sure; the SBMM now forces your losses by throttling your connection and hitreg so you absolutely cant win gunfights unless you use an OHK weapon

i'm playing halo infinite and its kind of refreshing because the majority of the playerbase are casual players like me. like maybe 1 out of 10 players i run into are exceptionally good at the game (and obviously they bend me over and demolish me). i don't think i've run into a single cheater

>>715569198
i think the reason people think FPSes are full of cheaters is because a lot of people are trying out FPSes and getting absolutely STOMPED by people who have been playing m&k for a decade plus. ever since crossplay became a thing a lot of people think every other player on PC is a cheater

i dont play hero shooters aside from siege ocassionally so i can't comment on overwatch or that shit

It's been like this since like 2012. Probably longer. Stop playing them. It'll never be fixed.

>>715569956
I wholeheartedly disagree!

good thing console online subscription gatekeeps away most poorfag hackers

>>715566402
>your bad at the game
Not that anon but that can't be the reason because despite my rank, i'm still havin fun

>everyone is le cheating
I troll those csgo cheater threads by saving my silver matches in csgo, turning on wireframe in replay, and then just clip the parts where I incidentally line up people through walls or I get a wallbang. Pretty consistently I get a dozen replies bemoaning how someone can so obviously cheat and not be banned when Im a shitter in silver lol

>>715570265
You sound like a cheater desperately trying (and in fact putting in 100x more effort than anyone with a normal life would) to prove that cheating doesn't exist in videogames.

You couldn't be making it any more clear that you are a cheater, playing interference to defend cheating.

>>715570119
there are ways to fix it. two, namely
>1. community run servers
devs dont like these for a lot of reasons; i guess it ruins SBMM/EOMM algorithms and makes it harder to control player discourse
>2. dedicated anti-cheat team that watches players that receive a lot of reports
its probably more expensive than i think and would require a completely seperate spectating interface that's probably harder to implement than i think

>>715567712
>You can destroy entire countries with 1% of the general population being subversive cheating parasites
Cool it with the antisemitic remarks

>>715570385
>everyone is cheating! See look at this webm of anon cheating!
>its myself playing legit in silver where Im a shitter playing 4fun
>erm no you are actually cheating or defending cheating!
Cope n seethe

>>715570385
you sound like someone who is dogshit at FPS and multiplayer games in general
just cuz you can brute force SP games on max difficulty doesn't mean you'll be able to do that against human opponents.
cope and seethe

>>715563207 (OP)
Sombra hasn't been perma stealth for a while now. Only after you throw translocator for a couple of seconds.

>>715570464
I was going to say that maybe StopKillingGames will bring back private servers and that'd help a lot, but it's just cope I think.

>>715569858
>and they are moving away from competitive first person shooters
Can you prove this?

>>715569858
Obviously cheaters exist but in my personal experience I very rarely ever run into a cheater

>>715570157
What is with trannies and the exclamation mark?

>>715571089
Huh?

>>715570861
i dont think this guy knows what the fuck he's talking about, considering he's using the term "competitive FPS".

i think there's a big difference between casual fps players who just want to shoot some dudes and relax and those who bounce from FOTM to FOTM to try and dominate and crawl up the ladder while the games still fresh and the meta hasn't been discovered

i have no way of proving it but the former probably makes up the majority of FPS players who rarely touch ranked modes.

>>715563207 (OP)
>PC Shooters are genuinely unplayable, they are filled with hackers
FTFY~

>>715563207 (OP)
I'm already a offline solo player gamer. You don't need to sell me the benefits of this thing even more. This has been a long time issue that lead me to leave the multiplayer world. In the future, when AI bots will takeover the multiplayer, this problem won't present anymore.

>>715572343
who fucking cares.
why do you fags always feel the need to pipe up in discussions that have nothing to do with you
sorry you couldn't fucking hang, no need to disclose that you're a sore loser

>>715563207 (OP)
play real shooters instead of trash

>>715570265
May I see it?

>>715563207 (OP)
The hacking will continue until good games are made.

I only liked cs 1.6 custom games. No one ever cheated in those (cept for fun). Sad custom games just died as a feature. Last game with them was dota 2. Least we got autochess out of that