Thread 715575749

Are PC gamers holding back gaming?

yes

>>715575749 (OP)
I shouldn't need a 3080 to run a pixel game.

>>715575749 (OP)
Nearly all of these gpus are stronger than every console out right now.

>>715576338
My ps5 smokes them

>>715575749 (OP)
Half of Steam users can't play Borderlands 4 because they don't meet the CPU requirements. https://www.club386.com/borderlands-4-excludes-50-of-steam-users-with-high-cpu-requirements/

And more than half of Steam can't play at 4K native resolution. All from Steam's own hardware survey so the /r/PCMR of /v vegan/ can't deny their own userbase by the way.

>>715575749 (OP)
> Are poor chinese, turks and jeets holding back gaming.
Yes, that's basically the majority of those sub-bar bottom of the barrel rigs. (Due to poor countries, often playing in public settings like net-cafés etc. They can't afford the best of the best.)

>>715575749 (OP)
>1080ti isn't even on the list
Is it really that rare of a card? I remember people fellated nvidea when it came out 8 years ago

>>715575749 (OP)
All of those can run cyberpunk which looks either equivalent or even better than most modern games demanding a 4080 for 60 fps.

Monster hunter wilds looks like shit while requiring 4x the power

>>715576637
That's enthusiast tier. Barely anyone buys those compared to the cheaper cards.

Monster Hunter Wilds the game that /v/ uses to shitpost consoles performance has had Overwhelmingly Negative reviews for over a month because the average /r/PC master race build is inferior to the 5 year old PS5 and Xbox Series X.
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2246340/Monster_Hunter_Wilds/
PC gaming fanboy time!

I bought a 3060 a few years ago and realized there are no games I'm interested in that need a card that powerful. I will not be upgrading for a long time.

>>715576473
720p is fine, 1080p is good, 1440 should be the current high end norm instead of everyone trying to force 4k before tech actually caught up and had higher baselines.

>>715575749 (OP)
Nope.
>>715576464
The PS5 is equivalent to a 2070, which is comparable to a 3060.

>>715575749 (OP)
1060 bros, we can't stop winning

>>715576924
The PS5 is a 450 dollar console today. The RTX 3060 is a 330 dollar GPU. The 5060 is a 300 card. Paradoxically because the older card has more VRAM.

>>715575749 (OP)
no, nvidia and their 8gb cards is

>>715576757
what do you mean? would you not be happy to pay +$2k just to play the masterpieces referenced in this thread like MHWilds and Borderlands 4?!?

>>715576473
What site did they use for the benchmark?

>>715577239
You concede that PC gaming has become a parody of itself when these GPU prices and CPU prices too when you get down to it. Selling 6 core CPUs should be illegal by now.

>>715577345
>Selling 6 core CPUs should be illegal by now.
Selling brand new 8GB GPUs should also be illegal.

>>715575749 (OP)
No, poverty third world brownoids are.
The 4060 is stronger than any console and the 3060 is comparable to current consoles.
PC games are also more flexible when it comes to graphic settings, so people with toasters can still run modern games.

>According to the survey, 50.2 per cent of Steam users have CPUs with 6 or fewer cores. The minimum requirements to play Borderlands 4 include a CPU equal to or better than the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X or Intel Core i7-9700 Processor, both of which are 8-core CPUs.
>The minimum requirements allow the player to play Borderlands 4 at 60 frames per second, in 1080P resolution.
>https://www.thegamer.com/borderlands-4-minimum-requirements-half-steam-users-cant-play/

>>715576338
That is grossly incorrect.

>>715577345
>PC gaming has become a parody of itself
it has been for many years now (since rtx was introduced)
I'm still better off playing on a cheap gpu than on a console tho

>>715577425
>The 4060 is stronger than any console
The RTX 4060 is 8GB and so is its Ti variant. The Playstation 5 is a 16GB unified VRAM console. The Series X is also 16GB VRAM. It isn't stronger. "But VRAM isn't horsepower". Okay, you can't play at 4K.

>>715577581
The ram is unified. That means you will not get more than 8 gb, unless you use less than 8 for the rest of it. So if you used 12, you would only have 4 gb of ram for everything else. Also, that would be impossible, because you only get to use 13.5 gb for video games.

>>715577581
>you can't play at 4K.
name one console game that plays @true4K
FSR/DLSS or whatever variant consoles use is not valid

>>715575749 (OP)
>>715576473
What you don't understand is that you are not my "userbase" or my equal just because you are gaming on a PC. YOU are not part of the master race.

Look at it this way:
Console gaming is like Marxism. Everybody is rolling around in the dirt together.
PC gaming is like Capitalism. The poor roll around in the dirt with their toasters. Meanwhile the wealthy have their RTX 5090 and 9800x3d systems.

>>715577696
> That means you will not get more than 8 gb
Nah, they get around 10gb of dedicated VRAM in demanding titles.
But you need 16gb of actual VRAM in order to play games at 4k so who cares.

>>715577127
gaystation requires a buttplug plus sub to make it worth anything so it doesn't just cost that.

>>715575749 (OP)
Reminder that unless you have the following:
>1440p or higher resoution monitor
>RTX3080/7800XT, equivalent or better graphics card
>Ryzen 5600, equivalent or better processor
>at least one (1) SSD in your system
your opinions on graphics/hardware/optimizations are irrelevant, because your frustration and denial over having lacklustre hardware is affecting your judgement.

Especially you dumbasses trying to play new graphically heavy games at 1080p and complaining. That's a resolution over two decades old now, you're the equivalent of people still riding carriages screeching in the street about how internal combustion engines and electricity are jewish schemes that don't work.

>>715577495
you're right, all of them smoke consoles because they actually let you replace them

>>715578182
Never said they don't work, but jewish scehemes? Absolutely.

>>715575749 (OP)
No, liberals are.

>opt in survey
Wow it's fucking worthless

>>715575749 (OP)
4060 reporting in

>>715578182
You can't run anything at higher than 1440p with a 3080 lmao. Hell you'll probably need to fake frame at 1440p too. Modern games render at something like 720p-1080p at most.

>>715578805
hence the "or better" part

>>715575749 (OP)
What the fuck happened between February and March? Half the cards in that list were halved

>>715577018
2500k/1060 is all you need

>>715578987
Even 5090 can't run shit above 720p now.

>"the ps5 can do 4k at 120fps for less than the cost of your gpu!"
>the 4k:

>>715579153
sure it can

>>715579312
Uh huh. Better not be using DLSS.

>>715575749 (OP)
Most of these people are chinks playing shit like CS and Dota. And you don't need anything more powerful than a 2060 to out power a console anyway.

>graphics/specs thread #47875409
go back tp pc master race subreddit secondaries
this board is for video games not measuring movie games fps board

>>715579237
>4K 120fps
>look closer
>dynamic 720-1200p 40fps (with drops)

>>715579348
>Better not be using DLSS.
Why wouldn't you use it?

>>715579794
not him but I assume because dlss looks like shit

>>715578182
Maybe games should look and play ten times better than they did a decade ago for me to bother with them, how about that

>>715580064
Your assumption was correct, in 2022.

>>715575749 (OP)
Yes because of shit skin third worlders and idiots who are addicted to buying crap

a 1060 runs games that look better than anything on a ps5 pro

>>715580468
it still does tho :/

>>715576338
Doesn't matter because they are still factually not strong enough for current gen games, but consumers are refusing to upgrade

Do I need better hardware when the gains from the latest games are negligible and look worse than games 10 years ago?

>>715579237
LOL i thought i was being at least a little hyperbolic when i said this >>715582235