Thread 715582750

does anyone actually like these metroidvania slop games and not just pretending. i just bought hollow knight on sale bc i have a steamdeck and it seems like a steamdeck game and it is just boring, i've killed like 5 bosses and got to the place with the jelly fish and mushrooms but it is just so boring, there's like no point to the game, the combat is so simple. like you have to force yourself to play this game, there's no point in exploring anything. like why would i want to go into a dark cave and die bc i cant see anything and respawn a million miles away?

>>715582750 (OP)
>5 bosses
>jellyfish and mushroom
you have only killed one - tutorial boss.
>why would i want to go into a dark cave
then don't go
>force yourself to play
then don't play

>>715583060
no i havent. i killed the bosses that gets you the dash and hadoken and the boss that is like a jar that slashes and shoots orange stuff and i'm sure there's 2 more that im forgetting

>>715583060
and i killed a boss that was a fat knight and had a ghost head that you attacked when it fell down

>>715582750 (OP)
What games do you normally play?

the only good metroidvania games are made by sakamoto and igarashi. its a genre filled with garbage

>with the jelly fish and mushrooms
Huh, there's Fog Canyon and Fungal Wastes, but that's two different areas. Also you get there after 2 bosses, not 5

>there's like no point to the game
You must read the letters, it says you must go to the city of Hallownest. There are various sign posts that show the way.

>the combat is so simple
Then it will take you no time at all to get to the city! Unless you keep dying in dark caves

>there's no point in exploring anything
Well then progress instead and you'll quickly see what the point of exploring is

>why would i want to go into a dark cave and die bc i cant see anything
You're right, you shoudln't. Did you think about buying that lantern?

>respawn a million miles away
Ah, see, you're already seeing the benefits of exploration! There's a bench seconds way from either of the two dark caves you have access to

>>715582750 (OP)
metroidvania games in general are absolute garbage

Not sure why they call them metroidvanias when clearly they mostly take inspiration from SOTN. The only "metroid" trait they share is the map

I loved the metroidvania aspect of this game. I didn't care enough to do the boss rush, I'd rather the new bosses there be put in new areas to explore.

>>715582750 (OP)
most metroidvanias are stale and do nothing new or interesting, many of those don't even have satisfying combat to at least keep you playing. hollow knight didn't really do anything interesting, but it was visually appealing and movement/combat was serviceable enough that getting through it was at least somewhat gratifying. that being said, i wouldn't put this game on any "best of" lists, and most metroidvanias i get in bundles i never touch because they look boring as fuck,

>>715583518
HK is more Metroid than SOTN. There's more sequence breaks and varied level design and less RPG aspects. Blasphemous would be more SOTN, HK is Metroid.

OP is clearly a Type 2 Adventurer.

>>715582750 (OP)
Ah, it's another /v/ plays a hard game, doesn't understand the mechanics and then makes a thread bitching like a whiny baby.

Uninstall it and refund it bro who gives a shit?

>>715583650
No

>>715583060
He must have killed false knight and hornet, technically mother gruz is a boss I guess

>>715583260
The hadoken one is just a normal enemy, the "jar that shoots orange stuff" however I think is Brooding Mawlek, and you're not supposed to be able to access him yet, unless you used a sequence break.

>>715583350
Yeah he's a tutorial boss. That's a maggot head BTW.

>>715583653
I remember when this shit first made the rounds and it has only gotten worse since.
No one is ever willing to understand what a game wants out of you. Never willing to even meet it halfways.
It is just ''my way or game bad'' forever. Then they complain that every game is the same.
It actually makes me sad.

>>715583447
the exploration is just not rewarding. maybe if it was 3d like elden ring and i actually got something from it like another weapon or something to upgrade. i got to a place where there is some miner and it didnt seem like i could do anything else, obviously its some stupid backtracking thing. that is stupid. and i have to find the map guy for some reason to get a map when i get to a new place. everything is just so forced and so unimmersive like it feels like a chore just to do anything in this game

>>715584639
If you need constant treats and rewards for playing the game, you should probably just pick up gambling or drugs instead.
Fucking embarrassing.

>>715583668
>hard game
which game are we talking about again?

Why do people say the combat in this game is boring? There are various aspects that I liked about it, like how you can't just simply jump on enemies, you need to time your downward slashes to bounce off of them. Or how healing requires using mana, which is gained from attacking enemies with your nail, but that mana is also used for your special attacks. So there's this decision making of whether or not to save or use mana for healing or to use magic attacks to end fights faster.

>>715584639
Jesus fucking Christ you’re an absolute faggot. Feeling the need to compare every game you play to a single game and not understanding that every genre is different and has different mechanics and different ways to go about playing the game has got to be so infuriating. Unless you’re just baiting, then I applaud you because this comment actually made me angry. But i doubt you’re baiting since you come off as a one track minded bitch. You don’t always need to be rewarded with something for every little bit of thing you do in a game.

>>715584047
Doesn't help that it got bandied about to defend Radahn's design.

>>715585336
Because there are a couple talismans that make it more efficient to just whack the fucker and stand in one spot and people copy that from youtubers.

>>715583668
>Trial of the Fool
>Lost Kin
>Mantis Lords too early
>Broken Vessel too early
These are the only hard things in the base game.
Grimm and clearing Pantheons 3, 4, and 5 and any of the Pantheons with bindings in the DLC are also hard as are Radiant clears on bosses.

>>715587142
Failed Champion was fucking rude. So is the Grey Prince once he gets enough titles on him.

You're right about the main questline being pretty tame, though.

>>715582750 (OP)
That's exactly how I felt about TOTK/BOTW

>>715582750 (OP)
Hollow Knight is the absolute worst the genre has to offer.

It feels great to control and the artstyle is nice, but the actual map design, level variety, progression, and the forced Souls mechanics are all absolutely fucking awful and make it a miserable slog to play.

>>715584881
>>715585442
Nerrel absolutely raped this piece of shit and Hollowcucks still haven't recovered to this day

https://youtu.be/mUrUceYSgmQ?t=94

you have posted this kind of post since march