Least intuitive program award. Standalone emus mog

>>715588675 (OP)
The UI is just so shit.

>>715588675 (OP)
based chads use RAlibretro, which is supposed to be a developer emulator but is actually a good streamlined version of this piece of shit

>>715588675 (OP)
It doesn't take very long, and the UI is only complex because it has an insane amount of features and customization.

Also the emulators are up-to-date with standalone except with much more features, much more features, seamless lossless recording, and better video/audio sync. Some emulators like LRPS2 are even more accurate than their standalones.

>>715588675 (OP)
>>715588752
ok, actually explain why you dislike it. People say it's "shit" and "unintuitive" when it works fine for everyone else and never elaborate.

>>715588675 (OP)
Reminder there is NO alternative for the features and customization of RetroArch, and you WILL be missing out if you get filtered and can't figure it out (you only need to learn it once; RetroArch is same across all devices/OS).

People use RetroArch for:
>the ability to save unique bindings/core settings/video settings/shaders for each core/game; literally anything at all you can change in RetroArch, you can save on a per-game basis
>better audio/video sync, input latency, and audio latency than standalone emulators
>huge selection of shaders and filters, and the ability to tweak all parameters of these shaders
>lossless recording at exact resolution and refresh-rate for every core/game (vastly superior to OBS); also input recording implemented for every single core
>rollback netplay for worldwide co-op or PvP games
>cores that are up-to-date with standalone and you can update all of your cores with a single click
>some cores that are only on RetroArch or are more up-to-date on RetroArch
>dozens of hotkeys that you can bind however you want and remain consistent for each game/core (or you can have unique hotkeys just for one game/core)
>VRR, BFI, and sync to exact framerate (to play games at the exact framerate of a game, e.g 54fps for Raiden FJ, or 61.68fps for TGM)
>top-notch CRT support with CRT Switchres
>1000 save states for every game with screenshot previews and undo save state/undo load state
>MAME core has save state support, rewind, & run-ahead for ALL games, even those with no save state support in MAME standalone
>RetroAchievements support
>UI and settings layout is consistent for every core so you don't have to learn dozens of different standalone UI layouts
There is no reason to use anything else for Gen 5 (plus GBA, DS, and Dreamcast) and earlier.

>>715590154
First there's the design. It's plain ol' ugly.
Second, there's a lot of menus and none of them give any indication about which one will actually make the change that you want. If that's not enough, it doesn't give you much information about the change will actually do unless you're already knowledgeable about what it does. Not exactly a problem, but brutal against new users.
IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.
Third! You think making changes in the configuration files would be easier, so you won't have to navigate through all their gorillions of menus, but there's gorillions of configuration files, and none of them seem to be the right one that makes the change.
This is further compounded when some changes in the options can't be made at all because they're greyed out and require being changed in the configuration files, but since there's a bajiligorillion of the god damn fucking configuration files, you have launch and close and relaunch repeat bajiligorillimillivanillion times to see if it did what you fucking wanted!
NOW!
I WILL admit, that this is ONLY if you want to make changes to the controls or visual aspects of what is being emulated. If you want to use the original controller and settings for let's say a PS1 game, Retroarch is pretty great for that. For everybody else, it's a god awful nightmare. I've had less of a headache using PCSX2 than Retroarch, and that's saying something.

>>715590327
Why do you care about any of that just play the game zoomie

>>715590832
>First there's the design. It's plain ol' ugly.
change the UI driver

>Second, there's a lot of menus and none of them give any indication about which one will actually make the change that you want. If that's not enough, it doesn't give you much information about the change will actually do unless you're already knowledgeable about what it does. Not exactly a problem, but brutal against new users.
IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.
Third! You think making changes in the configuration files would be easier, so you won't have to navigate through all their gorillions of menus, but there's gorillions of configuration files, and none of them seem to be the right one that makes the change.
This is further compounded when some changes in the options can't be made at all because they're greyed out and require being changed in the configuration files, but since there's a bajiligorillion of the god damn fucking configuration files, you have launch and close and relaunch repeat bajiligorillimillivanillion times to see if it did what you fucking wanted!
oh ok you're trolling

>>715590154
>when it works fine for everyone else
If that was true then the devs wouldn't keep taking steps to improve it and offer a proper desktop mode.

>>715590327
I'm a retroarch defender, but a lot of these aren't retroarch exclusive...

>cores that are up-to-date with standalone
lmao

>>715588675 (OP)
i like their crt filters

>>715590327
No thanks gigasoy, I will continue with my slick standalone emulator.

>>715588675 (OP)
Functionally it's really great. Especially shader support. But the UX is so fucking dogshit it's really only worth it for turbo retro autists.

>>715590982
>If that was true then the devs wouldn't keep taking steps to improve it and offer a proper desktop mode.
That's definitely a fallacy of some kind...

yep! Appeal to Tradition.

>>715590991
They're not all RetroArch exclusives, but standalones have just a few of these features/customization and in very limited implementations.

>lmao
Yes, many people still try to peddle the bullshit that RetroArch cores are outdated.

>>715591053
LRPS2 is now just better than PCSX2 in every way. PS2 was only an alpha core for years, and then with one massive update, LRPS2 crushed PCSX2 beneath its boot.

works on my machine

>>715591185
>Yes, many people still try to peddle the bullshit that RetroArch cores are outdated.
I use RetroArch, cores are OFTEN outdated.

You aren't beating the allegations RA dev

>>715591251
The RA drama is so stupid. iirc the big drama was that a dev claimed that RA stole their code, when in actuality someone was trying to peddle stolen code to them, RA kindly let the original dev know that, and the original dev sperged out.

really the only major issue is that the quick menu has to be accessed in-game, makes explaining it to noobies a lot trickier than it needs to be

>>715591185
>ps2 core made 6 months ago
lmao wake me up when it runs True Crime New York City and Siren 2 smoothly, nigger.

>>715591298
Yeah that's fair. But also if they're too stupid to try pressing F1 after being told that's their own fault.

The people who complain about the UI are just 70 IQ golem zoomers.

They probably don't even know there is more than one UI available, or that RetroArch's XMB UI is based off the greatest console UI of all time (the PS3's), or that these UI are based around using controller, which makes way more fucking sense considered 99% of the games being emulated are console games designed with controller in mind. Who the fuck would want to swap back and forth between kb/m and controller every time you enter a menu?

>>715591345
I will say a better desktop mode would be nice. The current one is shit and I hate accidentally going into it.

Already doing your IQ routine? You aren't very bright at shitposting RA dev

>>715591339
yeah i mean i agree, i've just had a couple of retard acquaintances completely bounce off of RA for somehow not being able to wrap their brains around the concept of the quick menu. maybe it needs a better name or something. or maybe they just got filtered.

>>715591071
that's not an appeal to tradition fallacy. nobody is saying the UI is bad because it's new. it just doesn't work properly for mouse and keyboard users.

just saying "that's a fallacy" doesn't debunk an argument anyway.

>>715591335
Just tested True Crime in LRPS2 and it runs fine.

>>715591545
True Crime LA and New York City are different games

>>715590936
Not in the slightest. A friend of mine wanted a raspberry pi emulationstation thing, so I bought a canakit and set it all up for him. However, he wanted the games to look as neat as possible, and also have some controls changed to fit what he was comfortable with. If he just wanted to play the games as they were, it wouldn't be a problem, it's just plug and play.
Turns out what the issue was, is that there's options that apply to Retroarch, options for the core/emulator/whatevertheycallit, and options for just the game itself, and navigating around all of that to just change the controls was horrific, and it was on a raspberry pi, which made the whole experience that much worse.
Oh another thing I forgot. The Retroarch community, while honest and willing, are too just as equally confused and clueless on how to navigate their awful menus and configurations files.
All of this being said, I don't hate Retroarch, but the criticisms against its UI are more than valid.

>>715591531
>that's not an appeal to tradition fallacy.
The fallacy was that you said it shouldn't be improved if it works for people.

>it just doesn't work properly for mouse and keyboard users.
cool, if you just said that you'd have learned I agree with you.

>just saying "that's a fallacy" doesn't debunk an argument anyway.
This is true, but if the argument is poorly crafted then it does. Nothing is perfect and can always be improved, just because things work doesn't mean you should just stop trying to imporve them.

>>715591584
I tested New York like you said.

>>715591345
The PS3 menu was much smaller so browsing it wasn't too bad. The extensive menu in RA feels worse to navigate. That style of menu was never meant for anything much bigger than a few lines.

Anyway, if you're on PC you're using a mouse to run the program and launch the game anyway. Saying that you're playing a game with a controller so the menu has to be navigated with a controller too doesn't make much sense.

Of course there are merits to being able to navigate everything with a controller but it has downsides too.

>>715591615
That's an issue with Retropie forcing settings and not actually Retroarch's fault in this case.

>>715588675 (OP)
I don't care about the UI, but the cores are almost always dogshit compared to stand alone. Outdated, buggy, etc.

>>715591626
>you said it shouldn't be improved if it works for people.
I didn't say that at all. I didn't read the rest of your post.

>>715591705
>If that was true then the devs wouldn't keep taking steps to improve it and offer a proper desktop mode.
????????? you literally said that. right there. quoting you directly.

>>715590154
Press button to change targeted save slot then another button to save or load instead of just press button to save or load to/from a slot directly.

>>715591636
>The PS3 menu was much smaller so browsing it wasn't too bad. The extensive menu in RA feels worse to navigate. That style of menu was never meant for anything much bigger than a few lines.
RetroArch has way more features and customizations than PS3 ever had.

You can fully customize what options and tabs show up, there is no excuse aside from being a stupid zoomer fuck.

>Anyway, if you're on PC you're using a mouse to run the program and launch the game anyway
Yes, then you swap to your controller because you're playing console, arcade, and handheld games designed to be played with a controller. Why the FUCK would I want to swap back to mouse/kb every single time I enter a menu or change a setting or pick a shader? It's just fucking asinine, it takes more than a couple seconds to find any setting and almost all the major settings relevant to a particular game are in Quick Menu (which you can also customize).

RetroArch gives you full customization of the experience, people are just fucking retarded subhuman golems who can't take five minutes learning a program and adapting to something that is much more functional and intuitive.

>>715591802
ps3 of yore actually allowed you to install pretty much any OS on it it's only more recent patches that did away with that

>>715591685
Not even remotely true you stupid zoomer fuck, they are a few weeks behind at absolute most, and these standalones are mostly mature, getting very small updates a couple times a year at most, and these are usually updates that don't even pertain to RetroArch as they affect UI/front-end.

Every fucking time without fail that some stupid zoomer fuck says this, it's because they just pick a random core on the list without just spending five seconds to actually look what the core is. No, the MAME Core from 2000 is not going to be up-to-date, neither is the version of SNES9x from 15 years ago. These exist purely for extremely low-end devices so they can run much less intensive versions of these cores.

>>715591735
I'm not sure what you're misunderstanding. I was simply disagreeing with the statement that it works fine for everyone else and nobody explains the issue.

People who are only using a controller can't navigate a desktop menu properly and people who are on desktop don't want to use a controller for the program itself all the time. It's fine to have both options but the choice for desktop users is still kinda shitty. Not to mention other issues like menus only being available after launching a game. These complaints have been said many times before and RA devs take note and try to offer improvements for whatever someone might need. But the RA users get weirdly defensive and hostile over people saying they dislike the UI and act like they have to defend it to the death.

>>715588675 (OP)
for some reason the version of this I was using on PS3 would fuck up real bad when I loaded a savestate, ended up moving over to Zsnes on my original xbox to play SMT2 with savestates because fuck needing to backtrack to terminals when I'm done playing. though I guess that's hardly a problem now that I can TP to terminals with a spell

>>715591071
>le reddit phalluses! *holds up spork*
Win32 UIs graphical interfaces are superior.
Filesystems are the superior paradigm.

>>715591940
>But the RA users get weirdly defensive and hostile over people saying they dislike the UI and act like they have to defend it to the death.
Mainly because they always do it in the most bad faith way possible and try to drive people away from gaming in general.

>>715591685
Show me even a single example of a bug/inaccuracy or any difference between the RA core and standalone.

If you are going to mention Dolphin/3DS or any of the other clearly ALPHA cores, don't even fucking bother, you are just a retard. RetroArch is meant for 5th gen and earlier, GBA, Dreamcast, DS, and PS2 as well recently.

>>715591940
retroarch reminds me of apple in how people seem to make it part of their identity and you aren't allowed to say anything but glowing praise about it or you're somehow their enemy
it's weird and puts me off the thing entirely

>>715591345
>>715591636
>THE DESIGN IS JUST LIKE XMB TRUST ME
>Boot PS3 and PSP
>Every menu has only 1 submenu and everything is easy and quick to find
>Boot up retroarch
>Every menu has 10 submenus that lead to 10 submenus
>Want to find a specific video or controller setting? it's hidden in beneath 5 different layers of specific menus LOL
FUCK YOU DISHONEST RETROARCH RETARDS IM NOT GONNA SPEND 10 HOURS EVERY GAME I WANT TO PLAY A DIFFERENT GAME TRYING TO FIND AND REMEMBER WHERE ALL SETTINGS WERE

Retroarch made me hate emulation and do a full 180 and just play recompiled PC ports (which will be the future, and emulation WILL die in your lifetime)

>>715592102
Holy fuck you are retarded. You can customize exactly what options and menus show. There are only a few menus you will be accessing frequently and almost all of those are on Quick Menu.

Retards always think that the global control config is how they adjust per-game controls (because they can't use common sense or do five seconds of research) and then throw a temper tantrum like a spastic retard when they fuck things up

>>715592181
Complete opposite. Once you learn RetroArch, you know it, and don't want to use anything else because RetroArch is so feature and customization rich and everything just works exactly as intended and consistent between every core all the way from Atari 2600 to PS2 and DS. I feel bad for stupid fucks who could never bother getting past the learning curve of RetroArch.

>>715588675 (OP)
I kept it around cause I thought it had the best Saturn emulator. Then I was illuminated it did not here so I got rid of it. It's nice to have everything in one place but really it's a question of personal taste. I prefer my folder of stand alone emus.

>>715592181
I wish it were true anon but 90% of game codes are literally lost and the 10% that actually exists and somehow leaked the companies come out of grave to send a cease and desist to people working on the recompile code.

>>715592248
Open quick menu right now and count for me how many submenus you clicked just to switch between CRT filters.

>>715592181
requires too much work to cover every game possible sadly. nobody is going to recompile fucking Chuck Rock and sometimes I just wanna play Chuck Rock, you know?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-BWr6o7XvA

>>715592248
Jesus fuck are you a shill or something? PC ports are 100% superior because they run natively on your PC.
>>715592337
I'm talking about through decompilation and recompilation, like with Majoras Mask.

>>715591234
I can understand the complaints about the XMB UI but not this one.

>>715591185
>LRPS2 is now just better than PCSX2 in every way
except when it can't launch my game or can't render anything at all while the standalone work flawlessly. Same with gamecube.

>>715592181
>emulation WILL die in your lifetime
Giving you a (you) because I laughed.

>>715592448
Plenty of PC ports have issues like Breath of Fire 4.

>>715592398
If I had to guess, there will probably be many tools that helps decompilations and disassembles the more we learn about how games are written. I'm pretty sure AI is already being used to help speed up the process of current decompilations.

>>715592657
>except when it can't launch my game or can't render anything at all while the standalone work flawlessly
You're a retard dumbfuck who has no idea what you're doing. Name the game so I can laugh at your retarded ass.

>>715588675 (OP)
>>715590327
>>715591234
>>715592248
>>715592337
THE IMAGE THAT KILLED RETROARCH NIGGERS

>>715592747
Fan-made PC ports will always be superior

>>715592741
you can stick with your 2002 technology lil bro, the adults will be playing SM64 romhacks with 120fps at 4k resolution in the year 2026

>>715592860
>who has no idea what you're doing
I accepted your concession

>>715592872
3 4 and 5 can be combined into one if you just put the shader in the default directory

>>715591682
Not entirely.
I used Retroarch on a PC to carry over configuration files to the raspberry pi, and yes that too was painful in its own way.
For fuck's sake dude, I don't hate Retroarch, but you'd have to be a Retroarch wizard or buck broken masochist to not see the problem with the UI.

bro who cares just play games. it's not that deep.

>>715592994
>you only have to scroll 4 submenus AT MOST if you waste even more time editing windows folders
thank you for conceding to my point, retroarch nigger.

>>715593150
am I supposed to take a critique of time wasting seriously from a man who spends his time looking to get called a moron on 4chan?

>>715588675 (OP)
Protip: If you don't understand what a setting does, look it up or leave it alone if you don't want to break anything.
>>715592875
And how many of those are there?
>>715592037
>try to drive people away from gaming in general.
Based, the less retards like you the better.
>>715592329
Best doesn't mean the most accurate for the Saturn. It's still better than SSF which has fuck loads of input lag.

>>715593309
you're supposed to shut the fuck up after admitting to be wrong

>>715593382
lmao these people are so fucking disingenuous. good on you anon.

>>715592181
>Retroarch made me hate emulation
I thought big brained RA whiners used standalones?
>recompiled PC ports (which will be the future, and emulation WILL die in your lifetime)
lol lmao

>>715593328
>And how many of those are there?
Give them some time. I already have 5 on my desktop right now.

>>715592329
Beetle Saturn is amazing, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>715593497
>5
And I literally the entire NES, SNES, Master System, Genesis, Game Boy, GBA, PC Engine, N64, DS libraries downloaded, along maybe close to a thousand ISOs between Saturn, Ps1, Ps2, Dreamcast and PSP.

When are all those getting de-compiled?

>>715593623
Most of the big titles are already being worked on. Probably not for a few years though. Depends on how fast tools for reverse engineering are created.

>>715593673
>Most of the big titles are already being worked on.
Like? Am I getting a re-compiled version of Panzer Dragoon Saga? The PS2 Ace Combat trilogy?
>Probably not for a few years though
*Decades
>Depends on how fast tools for reverse engineering are created.
What tools exist for reverse engineering MSX games?

>>715593673
Why the fuck do I care about all these decomp bullshit when I can just click on my rom and play it perfectly?

Worse than a retarded zoomer waiting for remasters

>>715593778
Google will answer literally all of those questions for you

>>715593878
Nobody is forcing you to play them, just don't pretend like they aren't better

>>715593881
Burden of proof is on you since you brought it up. Otherwise concession accepted.

You're sadder than EOPs who wait a decade for a fan translated game when you could've studied Jap.

>>715594020
Not gonna argue with a retroarch shill
https://wiki.decomp.dev/

>>715593941
Better in what way? Emulators are already as accurate as original hardware and emulators/RA have tons of features and customization, most of which these shitty decomps don't support.

It's just so simple and easy to have hundreds of games in a giant list, pick any one, it runs instantly and perfectly, and I can choose any extra features or customization I want for any of them.

But keep waiting decades for decomp ports you fucking zoomer

>>715593382
>admitting to be wrong
>me: you can remove a bunch of those steps
>you: yes you can
huh?

>>715591185
>LRPS2 is now just better than PCSX2 in every way
Now I'm not going to claim PCSX2 is better in every single way, but there are lots of games that play decently on PCSX2 and NOT on LRPS2
LRPS2 does allow shit like upscaling Ridge Racer 5 though

>>715588675 (OP)
>>715588752
ui is made for console fags absolutely dreadful to use on windows. Too much clicking and looking at huge menu that take way too long to just play the fucking game.

>>715591185
>LRPS2 is now just better than PCSX2 in every way
wrong it renders many games wrongly it's total shit

>>715588675 (OP)
The devs should thrash in the electric chair for Retroarch’s fucking painful UI.
One of the worst in all of software

>>715594086
>go to Saturn page
>2 games and a tech demo
>one of which is already translated and improved with patches
>PDS isn't even finished at disc 1
LOL LMAO
You're going to be dead y the time they can decomp one library.

>>715594093
>Better in what way?
Well for one, they run natively on your fucking PC without having to emulate another console, and you have access to the games code so you can mod it to your PC's capabilities instead of having to work around the consoles limitations. Have you ever played a PC game before?

>>715592872
https://streamable.com/ovf83f

Oh my science... it's so difficult, it takes all of 3 seconds!! SAVE ME STANDALONEMAN!!!

>>715594163
>looking at huge menu that take way too long to just play the fucking game
It takes less than 30 seconds sar

>>715594374
or 3sec in PCSX2

>>715594406
3 seconds in RA if you're loading from a playlist

>Download screenshots for MAME playlist
>Doesn’t work
Brilliant software

>>715594314
>You're going to be dead y the time they can decomp one library.
There's already decompilation (and recompilation) tools in progress. Tell me - why do you think they're decompiling that tech demo?

>>715594316
>It's native
>that means it's inherently better
>even though I can't name any specific examples of how it's better, it has less features and customization than RA cores, and no improvements in input lag
It really is just a case of zoomers being allergic to emulation and seeing it as some impure way to play when that couldn't be further from the truth

>>715594436
press esc by mistake -> now arch is now closed and you just wasted 15 more secs

>>715594316
And you think that's going to happen for every console game ever?
>>715594451
>There's already decompilation (and recompilation) tools in progress.
That's nice. You can easily finish a bunch of games emulating while you wait for them to finish.
>Tell me - why do you think they're decompiling that tech demo?
Who knows, I'm already playing games.

>>715594523
You have to double press esc and you can edit that binding anyways, retard.

>>715588675 (OP)
I'm too tech illiterate to figure out why, but Retroarch runs N64 and PS1 games way smoother than normal emulators even when using the same core and comparable setting.

>>715594502
>>715594579
I'll be emulating until the games are finished being recompiled, just not on Retroarch. Sorry shills.

>>715594523
>press esc by mistake
Something that happens only if you're retarded because you do it on purpose and can't read the message saying one more press will close it. But you're brown so that tracks.

You can tell nobody involved plays arcade games with friends, because if you let your friends loose in the RA UI with a controller they’re going to mash buttons and get into some obscure menu

>>715594645
>shills for decomps
>admits emulation is still preferable when he can't argue against the time it takes to reverse engineer
Concession accepted.

>>715594502
Decompiled and recompiled PC ports generally offer a superior experience to emulation for classic games. This is due to several key advantages:
Native Performance: Ports run directly on PC hardware, eliminating the performance overhead of emulating another system, leading to smoother gameplay and potentially higher frame rates.
Enhanced Visuals and Features: Developers can directly modify the game's code to improve graphics (e.g., higher resolution, better textures) and add quality-of-life features or bug fixes.
Improved Controls and Compatibility: Ports can be optimized for PC controls (keyboard and mouse) and reduce compatibility issues often encountered with emulators.
Greater Modding Potential: Access to the game's code unlocks extensive modding possibilities for the community.
Enhanced Preservation and Accessibility: Ports can be more readily adapted to future hardware and software, ensuring the game remains playable long-term

>>715594697
There's literally a setting for this called kiosk mode.

Alternatively you can save settings as read only, so only game-specific settings files and overrides can be made

>>715594757
>retard zoomer had no idea what advantages they actually offer
>has chatGPT churn out some technobabble garbage
Fucking KEK

Normal Emulators
>Open
>Load file

Retroarch
>Open
>Load Core
>Scroll through thousands of useless cores to find the one you want
>Select
>Load Content
>Select start directory
>Then navigate through a folder
>And another
>And another
>Finally find the rom you're looking for
>Select it
>Load Core AGAIN
Now it st- oh wait nope sorry hold on forgot this
>Controls messed up for some reason
>Open quick menu (hope you know how to)
>Find controls (hope you know how to)
>Press every single button
>Realize this is a waste of time when it doesn't work
>Delete Retroarch, boot up a real emulator
>Open
>Load File

>>715594838
you couldn't disprove any of them doe...

>>715594757
And what systems' libraries are fully revese engineered at present?

>>715594786
>THERE’S A SETTING!!!!
Ok why isn’t it the default?

>>715594757
Texture packs already exist
Romhacks already exist
Emulation requires just downloading emulator and clicking on the rom file
Way, way more customization and features with emulators, all of which are universal across games instead of needing to be designed specifically for one game

Decomps are the biggest meme and literally only retarded zoomers give a fuck about this because it's "not le icky emulation"

>>715594896
the one with every game worth playing

>>715594909
Why would you want the default setting that you can't change any options, you fucking shitbrained moron?

>>715588675 (OP)
Crazy how so many of you filtered retards feel the need to proudly make a thread about how bad you are. Am I supposed to applaud how you're too dumb to understand retroarch?

>>715588675 (OP)
Just don't use it then. Problem solved. You can delete this thread now.

>>715594870
>Open quick menu (hope you know how to)
What old ghetto ass controller are you using that doesn't have some kind of home button?
>Find controls (hope you know how to)
Another brown retard can't read. Look up what "input" means
>Press every single button
>Realize this is a waste of time when it doesn't work
Sounds like your controller's busted

Retroarch is literal dogshit for one very simple reason. The "standardised gamepad" mapping.

Every single time I have to map a basic 6 button game, I have to go look at the conversion chart. RA is the second worst piece of dogshit emulation software I've ever had the misfortune of running into, because it cannot be used for something as fundamental as control mapping without a fucking cheat sheet.

Still, it's better than MAME, which doesn't understand aspect ratios and therefore makes 5% of its library completely unplayable. Ironically, I have to run those games through libretro, which does correct the control mapping.

Why was it so important to turn every emulator into a core and unify them with a shitty UI?
Never understood the megalomania that drove that decision

>>715594951
>Decomps are the biggest meme and literally only retarded zoomers give a fuck about this because it's "not le icky emulation"
I've tried both and PC ports are more intuitive and allow for more shit that isn't held back by emulation.
Does change scare you?

>>715588675 (OP)
If only Duckstation had per-game controller presets it would be perfect...

>>715594667
only retard are retroarch troon that made that unnatural bind, every pc gamer will spam esc to escape his garbage consolized menus and yet it completely shuts down his shitty program

>>715595006
Because, that’s the way people actually use the software

>>715595049
>Sounds like your controller's busted
Works fine on my Snes9x. Sounds like your emulator is busted

>>715595057
>MAME, which doesn't understand aspect ratios
You can fully adjust these in both MAME and MAME core. What games are you talking about?

>>715595091
>are more intuitive and allow for more shit that isn't held back by emulation
Now you're just blindly spewing baseless buzzwords when you've never even used emulation and can give exactly zero concrete examples. You really are a fucking retard zoomer.

>>715595120
>doesn't refute he's using some ancient ass pad
Well gramps, I can understand RA being too much for your shriveled ass brain, but you should've retired your Gravis Gamepad twenty years ago.

>>715595120
>retard who is completely incapable of setting basic control bindings and blames the software for his own sheer stupidity and incompetence
>I am le gigachad
Kys ugly brown retard

>>715595172
>when you've never even used emulation
lol
>and can give exactly zero concrete examples
Okay, which game would you like comparisons for first, Majoras Mask or Super Mario 64?

>>715595208
>doesn't refute that RA is ass
Well kid, maybe someday you'll understand when you move on up from Ring Pops

Even the original MAME UI is more usable than retroarch

>>715588675 (OP)
Completely agree. Worst most bloated UI ever. You can play straight with load content

>>715595127
Every light gun title. MAME does not understand aspect ratio correction for aspect ratio mismatch. If you play a 4:3 game on a 16:9 monitor, it takes the absolute range of input as the playable range of input, which is nonsense. No other emulator with light gun support is this stupid, they simply ignore shots outside of the active window of play and treat them as off-screen.

This problem is so long standing, that every light gun on the market has a 4:3 toggle purely for MAME. Mine doesn't, because it's better than every light gun on the market. This is a problem that wouldn't exist if the MAME devs had any understanding of aspect ratios.

Only people who defend Retroarch are the same people who swear up and down Linux is so much better bro you GOTTA switch

>>715590154
Regular Emulator
>Open program
>Drag and drop ROM file onto it
>Click menu
>Click controls
>Click the big button that says "Map controller"
>Press buttons on controller/keypad as you like
>Exit menu
>Play game
>Literally only repeat step one and the last step for the rest of your life.

Retroarch
>Open Program
>Try to find emulator syst-wait what the fuck?
>Slowly realize that the UI is hard coded around a controller
>The default controls for the keyboard controls are unintuitive at best, outright laughable at worst
>Find system
>"Wait, download a core-what now?"
>Scroll through a billion different cores before you find the system you wanted
>"Uh, why are there like 12 of them?"
>Download the first core
>Select ROM
>Painfully work your way through the file path of where your ROM is
>Load it
>Hit play
>"Error. Core failed to load."
>Go back and get yet ANOTHER core; repeat 0-4 times.
>Finally load the game successfully
>Controls are majorly fucked up now
>Also find out that Retroarch's UI assumed you were using an xbox controller, but then as you enter any game it assumed you actually were using a Switch controller and flips your A/B and your X/Y.
>Fuck around in the configuration files for the game
>FINALLY get to play it.

>Load up retroarch again
>Load a different ROM
>The controls are fucked up again
>"Whoops, asshole, you only edited the config for THAT GAME, now you gotta do it for the system or manually do this every time."

The time it would take me to finish learning and setting up Retroarch nicely, I could download and configure EVERY single emulator manually anyways with 1/100th of the frustration. What's the point of having it?

>>715595246
>Two. Fucking. Games.
FUCKING LMAO

And Mario 64 already had methods for 60fps support long before decomp.

Captcha: XSGOY

>>715595112
>only retard are retroarch troon that made that unnatural bind, every pc gamer will spam esc to escape his garbage consolized menus and yet it completely shuts down his shitty program
t. redeemed poo

>>715595318
>"Wait, download a core-what now?"
>Scroll through a billion different cores before you find the system you wanted
>"Uh, why are there like 12 of them?"
>Download the first core
>Select ROM
>Painfully work your way through the file path of where your ROM is
>Load it
>Hit play
>"Error. Core failed to load."
>Go back and get yet ANOTHER core; repeat 0-4 times.
>Finally load the game successfully
>Controls are majorly fucked up now
Retarded fuck, just spend two seconds looking up the most recent cores and download those. You download cores only the very first time you ever use RetroArch and never again.

You truly are a fucking retarded subhuman mutt.

>>715595342
>NONONNONO WAIT WAIT WAIT NOT THOSE ONES!!!! THAT WILL PROVE ME WRONG!
Okay...here's some more options. San Francisco Rush, Mario 64, Majora's Mask, Star Fox 64, Sonic 3, Sonic Unleashed...just pick one.

>>715591234
>59.95 fps
Huh??? Is this some sort of code??

>>715595462
>San Francisco Rush, Mario 64, Majora's Mask, Star Fox 64, Sonic 3, Sonic Unleashed
And only literally millions to go lol

>>715595318
You stupid fuck, the controls on the main menu are global configuration and there are even little icons showing you the button location since "X" isn't particularly useful since it's in 3 different locations for Sony, MS, and Xbox controllers. There is also a separate setting for Bottom to confirm like Xbox/Sony have it, or right to confirm like Nintendo does it.

If you need to rebind per-game, you use Quick Menu control rebinding per-game or per-core.

Really the issue is absolutely retarded button naming schemes between the big three.

>>715595049
>What old ghetto ass controller are you using that doesn't have some kind of home button?
An actual console controller and a USB adapter?

>>715595462
>more options
>still renamed the first two
>still has named no advantages over emulation when there are dozens of features and customization that emulation has that the PC ports don't

>>715595550
So we went from
>PC Ports are worse than emulation
to
>Well they're better but my favorite game isn't ported so PC ports are bad
Is this crabs in a bucket mentality or goalpost moving? Probably a bit of both.

i will never use retroarch because frankly i just hate programs that try to do too many things at once. i don't want "the emulator frontend that does everything with various cores in states of disrepair/theft," i want "emulator X that's designed for X, Y designed for Y." i'm sure they'll call me a luddite for that because god forbid you don't want all your eggs in a single shitty basket

>>715595670
>>still has named no advantages over emulation when there are dozens of features and customization that emulation has that the PC ports don't
Better UI than Retroarch and on-the fly changes are enough before I get into specifics. Just pick a game lil bro

>>715588675 (OP)
It's worth buying a preconfigured chinkshit emulator handheld. Downloading ROMs, sorting thru them one by one, installing emulation software, configuring it? Too much time wasted you could use for gaming.

>>715595692
>goes from naming two games to four
>this somehow invalidates emulation being preferable to waiting for decomps for only a few games
Is this retardation?
>>715595794
You have other emulation options beside RA.
>before I get into specifics
Chatgpt did that for you.

>>715595794
Emulators already have had on-the-fly changes for decades you zoomermutt.

Make it less obvious you have never used an emulator in your life, please

>>715595112
>navigating a menu with a keyboard
huh?

>>715595882
Why are you so afraid of picking a game? I can tell you how and why playing a game natively is better than playing through a layer of emulation on a game-by-game basis. Just pick one.

>>715595978
>Emulators already have had on-the-fly changes for decades you zoomermutt.
Not on Retroarch*
Also nice way of handwaving away terrible UI because you have no defense for that shit
*Authors note: you are in the retroarch shill thread

>>715595994
>please pick one so I know what to ask chatGPT because I've never used an emulator myself

>>715596090
Not an argument. Pick a game or concede

>>715596072
Retroarch also has on-the-fly changes you utter fucking retard.

And I don't handwave away the UI, I love the UI and have no issue with it. It's only as complex as it is because Retroarch has such a robust set of features and customization that standalone emulators and decomps do not.

>>715595994
>Why are you so afraid of picking a game?
You posted four fucking games, the only one of which is worthwhile is Unleashed because it's a 7th gen game with actual no PC port.
>a layer of emulation on a game-by-game basis
All the others you posted are able to emulated and have been played enough for decades.
>>715596072
Why do you ignore other emulators, decomp zoomertard?
>Not on Retroarch
Quick menu too hard to find dumbass?

>>715593328
>: If you don't understand what a setting does, look it up or leave it alone if you don't want to break anything.
You think it's good design for a program to have a setting available that can just break the entire program? What?

>>715596218
>autistic ESL can't into figure of speech

>be literal 43 year old boomer
>buy chinkshit for son
>buy one for self
>retro NES style of course
Holy shit, all the games I heard of but didn't get to play as a kid. Love it.

Your problem is you're nostalgic for modern console slop like PS3 while I'm happy to play Shining Force from Sega Genesis. Imagine being nostalgic for "retro games" from this century.

>>715596162
Really? So you can change resolution, video driver, scaling, enabling and disabling core options are all on the fly? I'd like to see proof of that, because I just checked five seconds ago and you absolutely cannot you driveling fucking autist.

>>715594372
And we're just supposed to pretend you didn't spend 30 minutes practicing that speedtranny menu memorization technique for your retarded point? Who the fuck operates like that and still has their balls attached to their body?

>>715595994
not any of the anons you're arguing with but obviously you don't have a comprehensive knowledge of every single edge case of emulated games so you must be posting generalized stuff or you're consulting an emulator's compatibility wiki so let's hear about fucking Cool Spot, and post your sources please

>>715590154
>XMB style menu is menus within menus within menus
>tons of autistic little features that are a tuner's wet dream and an absolute nightmare to even hope to manage for the average person
>your settings may not save because one obscure little option tucked away in a corner was preventing more than one config being saved in a session
>things are so poorly explained that they may as well not be explained at all, the "help" windows are summaries rather than trying to do anything that tells a user how to utilize them
>features that require you to go hunting down forum posts and changelogs for an idea of what the fuck they even do
If someone defends Retroarch's systems, menus and design, they're autistic. Plain and simple. And that's not a BAD thing in this case, because the amount of precision you can get in exacting every little individual thing you want for your emulation experiences is great for those that know what they're doing.

Most don't know what they're doing.

>>715596397
>XMB style menu is menus within menus within menus
Opinion discarded, that hasn't been the default for years, faggot.

>>715596358
Yes, changing video driver requires resetting the game, but all the others are on the fly, retard.

>>715596372
>knowing where things are in a program
>tranny shit
You actually know where things are in the UI when playing a game? You know the layout of your start menu? Fucking 41% yourself faggot.

>>715596382
Cool Spot would be a disassembly, not a decompilation. That's a bit different. Emulation would be pretty much indistinguishable unless you want more expansive romhacks.

>>715596429
Okay so I forgot it defaults to Ozone. Big whoop, now you can't see the menus properly settled on one another, instead you just dig through the screens one by one now. It doesn't actually matter which GUI you use, it's still fucked.

>>715595318
>What's the point of having it?
>Slowly realize that the UI is hard coded around a controller

>>715596432
>Retroarch also has on-the-fly changes you utter fucking retard.
>Yes, changing video driver requires resetting the game

>>715596558
Yes, native PC ports can't natively change video driver without a reset either, you fucking retard.

Vast, overwhelming majority of settings/options do not require a reset.

>>715596558
If you asked your AI overlord, you would have known that decomp ports can't do that either, you fucking retard. In fact, I don't think I have EVER seen a game where changing video driver could be done seamlessly without reset.

>>715596316
>I-it's just a figure of speech that I gave you a direct command to not touch anything you don't know about or it will break something!
Suuuuuuuure it is.

>>715588675 (OP)
How stupid are you that you struggle to use retroarc?

>>715596623
>Yes, native PC ports can't natively change video driver without a reset either, you fucking retard.
Recompiled ports are designed to run natively on PC hardware, meaning they interact with the operating system and graphics drivers directly, just like any other PC game. You don't need to "switch drivers". They utilize your PC's graphics API you fucking retard. Am I arguing with someone who's never played a fucking PC port before? Surely you've played a PC game at some point, right boomer?

This thread feels like one or two fuckwit schizos calling everyone a retard on post refresh limit.

>>715595318
Jesus christ the smartphone generation is legitimately completely retarded
>>Painfully work your way through the file path of where your ROM is
"OH NO I HAVE TO NAVIGATE A FILE STRUCTURE TO LOCATE A FILE! I'M GOING INSANE! HELP ME CHAT! THIS IS SO CAP FR FR!"

>>715596761
see
>>715596859
fucking retard, please just stick with emulation so the rest of us never have to deal with you

>>715593778
he said "big titles", moron.

>>715596859
I'm talking about swapping between DirectX, openGL, Vulkan, etc.

In both decomps and emulation, these require reboot to take effect, stupid fuck.

>>715595015

>>715596862
Pretty much. They have exactly two arguments.
>WHAT THE FUCK, WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS? THE PROGRAM TELLS YOU, JUST READ IT ON THE SCREEN!
>WHAT THE FUCK YOU ZOOMER RETARD, WHY DID YOU TRY AND READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE SCREEN?! JUST MEMORIZE THAT SHIT AND DO IT ALL IN 2 SECONDS IT'S NOT HARD TO LEARN 40 DIFFERENT MENUS AND TO REPROGRAM HALF OF THE CODE TO TRIM IT DOWN TO 39 MENUS INSTEAD!

And all this for what? "Features"? Bro the only feature I want is the game to run and my controller to work. Shaders are a cute thing you play around with for like 10 minutes and then turn them off anyways.

>>715596807
>gave you a direct command to not touch anything
It's a suggestion you literal autistic faggot. If you're advantageous enough to fiddle with something without knowing what it does, then go fot it, whether or not it works or the program crashes because your computers fucked.

>>715597032
>It's a suggestion
Ahuh. Sure. Of course it is. Mhm.

what with the niggerarch unhinged seething in this thread lmao

>>715597031
>REPROGRAM HALF OF THE CODE
Of course a retard thinks changing a few settings in the big bad scary menus is "programming".

>>715596859
>They utilize your PC's graphics API you fucking retard.
So do emulators you colossal retard. And swapping them on both requires reboot.

You're still doubling down and looking more and more retarded because you thought emulators don't have on-the-fly setting changes when they have had those for ages.

>>715595617
>can't function if the on-screen instructions aren't 1:1 even though the layout remains the same
autism

>>715597104
>retard takes things literally
Unironically fucking kill yourself.

I finally get the meme about zoomers being tech illiterate after seeing how many of you spreg out in confusion over setting up RetroArch

>>715590154
because they copied the ps3 ui and the ps3 ui was shit

>>715597249
Again >>715596429

For me it's ares, actually decent multi system emulator.

>>715597279
>furfag extortionist emulator
>requires stupid high cpu usage

>>715591335
why would you say that as if it's a completely separate product from its original emulator? half-assed emulators don't get added just for existing

>>715597352
werks on my laptop

>>715597008
>>715597129
The whole reason you need to switch between drivers in an emulator in the first place is because you're playing through a layer of emulation mimicking the original GPU, CPU, and other components of the original hardware. Recompiling translates the games code into a native PC port depending on your operating system so you don't need to "pick a driver".
PC porting is TRUE "on the fly" in ways that emulation never could do, especially with enhancements that improve the game, or add mods, or simply just adjusts game settings to be as vanilla or non-vanilla as you want. We could start with how it lowers input latency compared to emulation, especially on N64 games if you want.

>>715596494
fuck off troon

>>715597238
your samefagging is so blatant it's not even funny, retrotroon shill

>>715588675 (OP)
Trying to use retroarch to emulate is almost as shit as using linux. Muh cores hurrrrrrrrrrr

>>715597490
No, you tech illiterate fucking retard. Emulation, native PC games, and decomp PC ports ALL have different driver API/renderers you can choose from

Some may offer better performance or certain advantages with different hardware.

So not only have you never used emulation, apparently you've never even checked the settings of a single PC game or PC decomp in existence. It truly is baffling how fucking stupid you are

>>715597703
>No, you tech illiterate fucking retard. Emulation, native PC games, and decomp PC ports ALL have different driver API/renderers you can choose from
How do you think recompiling works?

>>715588675 (OP)
>Retroarch is shit
>Shaderglass is shit

why must we suffer just to be able to use shaders

>>715597656
>>715597672
>I'm a retard
we know, bud, we know

>>715597783
Hey stupid fucking tech illiterate retard, Mario 64 PC supports OpenGL, DirectX, and Vulkan, just like emulators do

>>715597894
>Mario 64 PC
Kek, oh really? Which PC port?

Too many menus and I get lost in them. The controller configuration is a source of PTSD

>>715597109
It’s all fake, just intended to drop division concepts like “brown” or “zoomer”

>>715597553
>retard that can't into computers or even play games
>no ur le troon!
dilate and 'ack yourself yesterday

>>715597956
https://github.com/sm64pc/sm64ex/wiki/Build-options

>>715597672
Your cores, sir:
>Merfluffen
>Merfluffen CLASSIC
>FartStation
>xxxxxzzzzxx
Cool man I know all these

lmao if you can navigate Windows, you navigate this. Come on now, /v/

>>715598287
the majority of people here are phone posters

>>715598065
Yeah, you choose your video driver BEFORE you build your executable so that it integrates during recompilation, (for asynchronous shader compilation). Why would you need to choose another driver after that?

>>715597798
User issue

I don't understand why you would play on a less accurate emulator.

Most graphics were designed specifically for the resolution and frame rate they originally released.

That's why most PS2 games and early PS3 games look like shit on 4k 120fps.

>>715598386
So not only do you have to reboot to change settings, you have to fucking recompile. That is about the farthest from on-the-fly as you can get. And your dumbass was bitching that RetroArch takes 2 seconds to reboot the game to change driver API, while all the other settings change instantly on the fly.

And imagine having to worry about fucking shader compilation for an N64 game.

All so you can have a fraction the features and customizations of emulation where you can just click any rom in the library and it runs instantly and flawlessly

Still can't name a single advantage or purpose to this shit. Again, it's all just zoomershit for retards who are allergic to emulation

>>715598656
I don't know about 4k, but I haven't played a PS2 game that doesn't look vastly better with 1080p upscaling than without.

>>715598754
We do this in real life all the time. Specifically in Disneyland and universal.

I don't get why i'd be recommended to use Retroarch if I just want to play PSX games.
Standalone is just better in that regard why should I have to bother with feature bloat when standalone will have all I need within a handful of menus as opposed to Retroarch cramming it all together in one big mess.

>>715590832
The big problem is that there are countless settings that are either global, per core or per game, and completely unlabeled.
You just have to learn which menus apply to which element, and the "quick menu" includes important features that aren't accessible in the - I suppose - normal menu?
Unless you spend time learning the arcane layout of Retroarch menus it's all incomprehensible slop and you're more likely than not to do something dumb and lose configs and save files until you figure all this shit out. And speaking of saves, that shit is incredibly unintuitive. Saving a filter preset default to a core also doesn't seem possible unless I missed something.

>>715588675 (OP)
i like retroarch but i fucking HATE that control schemes aren't adapted to the systems you are playing. you press through the menu, the bottom button is select, mapped as "a". alright. so it should intuitively know that when i open super nintendo, i now want "a" to be bound where "b" is because i obviously don't want nintendo games to follow an xbox layout. you open a gamecube iso and now to press b you press the rightmost button. i remember sega genesis having some similar problem but i don't remember how it maps the face buttons, just being annoyed.

i love the idea of universal controlschemes but having to fucking rebind them all anyways is dogshit

>>715598754
Any game with lots of 2D elements will look like dogshit upscaled, sure the PS2 barely had any 2D games but many titles had UIs and text that will look warped, weird and sometimes broken if not played at the default res

>b-b-but default res looks like shit

CRT shaders exist

>>715599017
Because it includes Beetle PSX and Duckstation and those are the best emulators available for the platform

>>715598701
>So not only do you have to reboot to change settings, you have to fucking recompile.
No, you can change settings on the fly. And you shouldn't ever have to "change drivers" because you literally do not need to ever. It's also a very early PC port that doesn't use doesn't use N64: Recompiled, if you want to nitpick this specific port.
>And imagine having to worry about fucking shader compilation for an N64 game.
N64 emulation is so notoriously shit (and even worse on RetroArch) because of it's graphics architecture.
>All so you can have a fraction the features and customizations of emulation where you can just click any rom in the library and it runs instantly and flawlessly
>Still can't name a single advantage or purpose to this shit. Again, it's all just zoomershit for retards who are allergic to emulation
pic related

>>715599121
>N64 emulation is so notoriously shit (and even worse on RetroArch)
Proof you've never actually used it lmao

>>715599209
We're at the point where the retroarch shills are defending the fucking horrendous state of N64 emulation
>Proof you've never actually used it lmao

>>715599121
>And you shouldn't ever have to "change drivers" because you literally do not need to ever.
Yet, you bitched about RetroArch requiring merely rebooting the game to swap driver APIs. Now it's "uhhhh you just don't need that option, so stop worrying about it!!"

Curious.

>N64 emulation is so notoriously shit (and even worse on RetroArch) because of it's graphics architecture.
What fucking year is it? No, it's not you fucking retarded zoomer.

>pic related
Almost like this shit has been on emulators for decades

https://mario64hacks.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Hacks
https://www.smwcentral.net/?p=section&s=sm64textures

Emulation has far more features and customization and requires a fraction the effort. But sure, have fun getting two decomps a year, maybe by 2300 we'll have the full N64 library.

Zoomers will go through hell just to avoid emulation. Something has utterly mindbroken them about emulation

On my shitty android tablet the dolphin emulator crashes in retroarch and the whole program shuts down while the standalone works perfectly kek

>>715599432
Dolphin core in RetroArch is an alpha core

>on my shitty android tablet
Kys

>>715599372
In this one specific port, in the sea of Mario PC ports, you decided to pick the ancient one that needs a builder as a gotcha, not realizing that you pick the driver BEFORE you build the executable, you tard.
>What fucking year is it? No, it's not you fucking retarded zoomer.
Yes it is, knuckle dragger. How's Project64 holding up, since you want to cherrypick?
>Almost like this shit has been on emulators for decades
You can play Render96 on an emulator? How does that work?
>Zoomers will go through hell just to avoid emulation
Zoomers made retroarch, stupid.

>>715599552
>retarded zoomer thinks render96 invented texture pack
>retarded zoomer thinks decade old emulator represents the best of N64 emulation
Jesus fuck

>>715599530
Gonna shit and piss your pants because it's not a PC?

>>715599768
Who are you quoting?

>>715599351
why would you even post a picture of playtime for super mario 64 when its one of few 100% compatible videogames for literally every single emulator? what is even your complaint? retroarch is a frontend, that is all. you are retarded for attributing them to the developments of emulators. and on that, parallel is still the best option available for nintendo 64 emulation.

>>715599351
>not actually retroarch

How do you guys manage your save files? I'd like to do another playthrough of Tokimeki Puzzledama and toy around with shaders, but I'm not very confident with this program.

>>715599842
the allegation was that i've never emulated, which is untrue. why would i pour hours into playing another n64 game through emulation if its shit?
>>715599851
it is, just looks like different ui on playnite

>>715595318
>>The default controls for the keyboard controls are unintuitive at best, outright laughable at worst
>>Find system
>>"Wait, download a core-what now?"
>>Scroll through a billion different cores before you find the system you wanted
>>"Uh, why are there like 12 of them?"
>>Download the first core
>>Select ROM
>>Painfully work your way through the file path of where your ROM is
>>Load it
>>Hit play
>>"Error. Core failed to load."
>>Go back and get yet ANOTHER core; repeat 0-4 times.
>>Finally load the game successfully
>>Controls are majorly fucked up now
None of these things were an issue for me and once the settings were in place I've been using it without effort for the last six years. Maybe I'm just high IQ

I think Retro Arch is not very user friendly.
I prefer software that has only a few options, that are well tailored and fun to use.

>>715594870
Why is it that you're too retarded to use playlists?

>>715595318
The only way you could have issues with the default control scheme is if you are using weird controllers or emulating a console with controllers with only two action buttons by using a traditional modern controller that has four

And regarding the emulators themselves if you are confused about all those choices RA provides you, well, you should probably educate yourself on how emulators work and which ones are the best, if you don't know how to use them on RA you won't know how to use them standalone too

>>715590154
There's too many menus and submenus. An emulator should be, at most:
>select console
>select ROM to play

RetroArch expects you to set up too much shit manually and expects you to know which "core" to use. Every time I tried using it I just gave up and just installed all the emulators I want manually. At least that way you get the experience of
>select console (aka select emulator in your app menu)
>select ROM to play

Every time I come into these threads I'm stunned. Do you people actually manually select cores and search through your file system every time like some kind of caveman? What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>715601441
why do you keep repeating yourself? you faggots are seriously acting as if selecting a specific emulator for the first time you run a ROM is the end of the world

>>715601584
That's all RetroArch threads amount to. Just anons outing themselves as being too stupid to do basic configuration

>>715600139
>it is, just looks like different ui on playnite
everyone knows you can't change their shitty UI, retrotroon

>>715601441
>There's too many menus and submenus

Those menus are there for a reason, just because you don't use them doesn't mean everyone else is the same

>RetroArch expects you to set up too much shit manually

>download core
>load game
>select core
>done

Wow so much stuff to do

>>715601772
>just because you don't use them doesn't mean everyone else is the same
Just remember everything will keep getting dumber for the sake of the bottom quintile :^)

amazing software
and amazing retard filter

>>715591185
Give it a rest, Square Pusher.

>>715601636
No it's one fucking schizo that keeps reposting the same tired ass insults and arguments and has been for years now.

some anons really tied their entire identity around a an emulator frontend and are losing their shit

millenial ahh software

>>715602494
how do i shot web

>>715595318
You spent more effort and brain power typing all that shit out than actually trying to figure out retroarc.

>>715602881
>fake CRT tv overlay
You're like one step away from strapping a mask with the scent of mom's cooking around your face.

>>715595318
Use a regular emulator then retard

>>715595318
There isn't a point. But posting this pisses off the resident RA Schizo/Square Pusher, so keep it up.

>>715596936
Hi Squarepusher!
I see you've defaulted to one of your favorite insults! (Zoomer.) Have you called anyone a nigger yet?

>>715592657
>>715594160
>>715594235
Name the fucking games, I guaranfuckingtee you they work. If it doesn't work with hardware rendering, the extremely accurate software renderer will absolutely work, and vice versa (but I use the software renderer and never encountered a single game that doesn't work).

>5th gen and below
I'll use retroarch
>6th gen and above
I'll use standalone

It's that simple

>>715603393
calm down, twin aphex.

>>715603462
It used to be, but now LRPS2 is better than standalone.

Also the DS and GBA cores are fantastic.

>>715603581
I haven't fucked around with LRPS2 but yeah I wasn't counting handheld. I tend to not emulate DS games much anyway because the dual screens almost always look like shit

>>715603393
>If it doesn't work with hardware rendering, the extremely accurate software renderer will absolutely work,
i already accepted your concession

>>715603393
Siren shat itself in LRPS2 last time I tried

Man. Retroarch us great for exposing imbeciles. Anyone complaining about it's UI are indisputably a dumbdumb. Customizing the interface into how you like can be confusing but the actual stuff involving loading games and and emulator settings are simple.

If you aren't using RA for the first couple generations of consoles, you are wasting time and space.

>>715604157
Use the software renderer (which is the most accurate and best way to play games exactly like a PS2 would) and it would work fine.

It probably works for hardware renderer just fine if you configure properly, but I don't feel like downloading and testing it.

>>715603393
Tried the Captain Tsubasa game recently and it wouldn't display anything on LRPS2 and i'm pretty sure i tried changing the graphic options a bit, works just fine on PCSX2

>>715604269
The thing is Siren shits itself even with the software renderer in LRPS2

>>715604342
The software renderer in LRPS2 is not the same as the shitty PCSX2 one.

For example, this atrocious bug is no longer present in LRPS2.

>>715604465
OK
Keep ignoring that Siren is unplayable in LRPS2

>>715604530
It's not, you're just retarded

>>715604582
It is

>>715588675 (OP)
Just use EmuDeck or RetroDECK

>>715602418
>people constantly complain about how bad the user experience is in RetroArch
>i-it's just one guy
How autistic are you?

it's not that hard. it's literal copypasta. compiling btw
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZDyH_vu5QM
How to Install Gentoo Linux (2026 Edition) | Full Guide - tony - 5.69K subscribers 63K views 4 months ago

>>715596372
you understand directories right?

>>715588675 (OP)
Worth the effort of figuring it out.

>Standalone emus mog
If that was true, RA would have disappeared long ago and you wouldn't have to go on some anonymous board to sell this message.

I just set up my android chinkheld with all sorts of emulators and I wouldve preferred it if all of them just ran over retroarch.

Hey, I have an idea guys. Instead of all of this nonsense:

>Go to Back-Ups
>Download Core, RetroBat, or some 10TB image.
>Put it on a harddrive
>Launch the executable
>Congrats, you've got games. No fiddling, no stupid tweaking to get it to work, just play the games.

>>715604202
We get it, Squarepusher. You've said it already. Multiple times.

>>715605038
I'm saying it's one dude doing all the RA defending.