Thread 715589817

Yes.

>I let other people decide which games are worth playing and let them take games away from me
cuck

>>715589817 (OP)
Not videogames. Don't post pedophile.

>>715589867
Yes.

I may think games are shit, but I hope the people who purchased them and actively play it enjoy it.

Its his choice

>>715589817 (OP)
It's amazing what he's managed to accomplish after becoming genetically 50% mold.

>>715590001
You understand, anon.

>>715589901
>let them take games away from me
How is it taking games away from us retard? We don't buy these shitty games that need online connection in the first place.

>>715590339
I do have online connectivity, hence why I am posting here, why can't I play my shitty korean MMOs?

>>715589817 (OP)
>Buy online racing game to play with my friend who lives across the country
>Ubishit not only takes down the servers, they delete the fucking game from my library
>Somehow this is my fault for wanting a multiplayer racing game

>>715589867
/thread

Garbage-tier commercial art must be preserved so future generations may learn from it.

>>715590339
>we
disgusting that you would try to include me in your weird drone mentality shit

i've played multiple games i liked that got taken away from me
war of the roses and war of the vikings come to mind as a good example

>>715589817 (OP)
>I need to play obscure korean MMOs
you're not entirely wrong even if Lineage 2 isn't all that obscure.

>>715589817 (OP)
All live service games are shit & should actively be killed.
I do think games like The Crew should be preserved though.

>>715590384
>why can't I play my shitty korean MMOs?
Because you get some taste.
>>715590641
>disgusting that you would try to include me in your weird drone mentality shit
I was talking about me and OP who are chads who don't care about all of this garbage that won't "save" a singular good game.

I WANT TO PLAY THE "The Crew™ (2014)" BY Ubisoft®
>I WANT TO PLAY THE "The Crew™ (2014)" BY Ubisoft®
I WANT TO PLAY THE "The Crew™ (2014)" BY Ubisoft®
>I WANT TO PLAY THE "The Crew™ (2014)" BY Ubisoft®

NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!
I AM GOING TO FUCKING KILL MYSELF IF I DON'T
AND IT WILL BE YOUR FAULT.

I WANT TO PLAY THAT DEPRECATED ONLINE ONLY GAME NOW!!!

I MEAN FUCKING NOW!!! I BOUGHT IT FOR LIKE $10 ON A FUCKING SALE
I AM ENTITLED FOR IT FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER.

>>715590809
you're a little cuckold sissy boy who lets companies decide
>enough, you've had enough of this toy
on your behalf

>>715589817 (OP)
If you put money into it, then yes you should be able to play them

>>715590807
>All live service games are shit & should actively be killed.
Anon, what do you think is gonna happen once this iniative makes it through and live service is financially a lot less lucrative?
Ignore ideology, engage in realpolitik

>>715590890
I look like this and say this

>>715589817 (OP)
no you don't let them die

>You WILL make your server code available
>You WILL make it run on Linux because Windows does not guarantee infinite lifetime
>You WILL expose all your proprietary code in a plain executable that everyone can reverse engineer
>You WILL have problems with hackers on your new games, because they now know how the server code works
>You WILL put GIANT stickers and warnings on the game telling that this will only last two (2) years
>You WILL see your sales dropping because nobody will buy a game that will supposedly only last two (2) years

>I WILL play that shitty game of yours "The Crew" that came out 10 years ago
>NO I do not want to play "The Crew 2" which is EXACTLY like the first one, but only better

>I BOUGHT THOSE PAIR OF SHOES 10 YEARS AGO AND I EXPECT THEM TO FUNCTION LIKE NEW - FOREVER - AND EVER - AND EVER

>>715590983
if you put money into shit slop you deserve to be burned alive in a fire

>YOU WILL DELETE THIS THREAD
thanks jannies...

>>715591051
>>NO I do not want to play "The Crew 2" which is EXACTLY like the first one, but only better
Eh, no. The Crew 2 doesn't even do what Ross actually enjoyed about the Crew 1, which was the drive across America. It does it much worse.
t. knower.

>>715590001
wrong use of the template retard

>>715591064
They should be entitled to their shit slop if they paid for it

>>715591121
Which use? The "I have a contrarian retarded opinion" use or the original "Exaggerated idea of how a chad thinks" use that NO ONE does anymore?

I play Helldivers 2 and Vermintide 2/Darktide. As far as I can tell, those games would absolutely be killed if the devs went under. So I support the initiative.

>>715590339
>Gundam Evolution
>A game that was by no means bad, but was marred by the playerbase being dissatisfied with the hyper-predatory macrotransactions being marketed as microtransactions
>In an act of malicious defiance for the audacity of not paying for their ridiculous prices, Bandai Namco decided to pull the game entirely instead of revising their marketing strategy
I will never not be fucking mad.

>>715591281
At least it got discovered that server code existed in the client code, so it's being reversed engineered.
Also, it's so shit how Bandai Namco treats vidya and then also releases a good card game for fa/tg/uys.

>>715589901
>would rather beg the government to regulate gaming laws instead of using that power to rally people to buy the IPs from companies to keep the games alive without having to take 6-8 years to see if the law passes or not or even changes.
You guys really underestimate how long this going to take. Look at End the Cage Age and you'll get an idea of the length it could go on for.

>>715591051
>I WILL make disingenious arguments

>>715590339
The practice of arbitrarily making games that have no business requiring online to play will continue to worsen. It's an effective strategy to force people to buy the sequel. Shaming companies when large amounts of gamers who don't care and will buy the sequel anyway because it's fun doesn't work.

>>715591403
>instead of using that power to rally people to buy the IPs from companies

Good luck with that retard.

>>715589817 (OP)
imagine how hairy his ass is

>>715589817 (OP)
Why are e-celebs always so ugly?

Anything that hurts game companies is ok in my book. Fuck the industry. Hope they all die.

He won.

>B-BUT MUH LIVE SERVICE

>>715591403
>why don't you give companies even more money in response to fucking you over
Brilliant plan there.

>>715591359
It was easily some of the most fun I'd had in the hero shooter genre in a long time. Anyone who says shit was unbalanced or that matchmaking sucked weren't seeing the bigger picture.
Imagine the fallout if Bamco comes in to C&D this shit. It hurts nobody as they already collectively decided they didn't want money from it.
All it would take to bring people back is to fucking take the brick shithouse off the throttle for the monetary side of things and make the F2P side not suck so much dogass when trying to get free shit like new characters, and the game would be fine.

>>715590776
>l2chad
Based. Still the best dark elf women.

blah blah blah
no one needs this initiative to pass

>>715592189
I'm no one and you're exactly right, I need it to pass.

>buy 2024 Suzuki Jimny for $36kAUD
>2025 rolls around
>Suzuki repo crew break into my garage, steal the car and take it to the dump to be crushed into a cube
>pamplet left in my mail box telling me I can "buy" the 2025 model for $38k
uhhh developerbro???

>>715589817 (OP)
don't tell me whats worth playing or not

I get to decide that, not you

I heard on the Gay & Racist show that Maldavius is gay and has a small penis, can anyone confirm?

I WANT TO PLAY "The Crew™© (2014)" BY Ubisoft®
>I WANT TO PLAY "The Crew™© (2014)" BY Ubisoft®
I WANT TO PLAY "The Crew™© (2014)" BY Ubisoft®
>I WANT TO PLAY "The Crew™© (2014)" BY Ubisoft®

NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOOOW!!!!

I really do not understand how any regular gamer could be against the SKG initiative.

>>715592317
There's mindustry and very few others. Even Stallman has admitted that the gaming section is just inherently unwelcoming to being open source.

>>715592502
>I really do not understand how any regular gamer could be against involving the EU even more deeply in game development.

>>715589817 (OP)
That bald forehead invites a smack with a hammer

>>715592531
Oh so it's just schizo paranoia.

>>715589935
We own this board fucko

>>715590339
>we

>>715592531
Yeah. In what ways has holding publishers and developers accountable made gaming worse.

>>715592502
There's a very particular, niche subset of people, a group, that wishes the absolute worst on everything good in this world, people things, etc. They have a lot of time since most of them are terminally online, neets, living off parents' money, or legally disabled. Thir lives are absolute shit and they envy anything that's innocent and good.

>>715589817 (OP)
Normalfags not understanding principles is one of the largest eye-openers you can ever possibly have.
Imagine the truth, the fact, that 90% of humanity is unsuited to be in any form of power/leadership due to something as simple as not understanding principles.
>Games should not be killed
How is that hard to understand? ANY game, doesn't matter how fucking shit it is. KILLING GAMES IS BAD.
Did you fuckers never read what absolutes are? What slippery slopes are?

>>715592578
let me guess....jabbed multiple times and feeling great about it?

>>715589817 (OP)
Starwars battlefront 1 and 2 were preserved by fans especially after gamespy shut down. No one complained, no one cried, all of a sudden faggots want to say that kind of preservation shouldnt be allowed and I guess you want modern reboot battefront games to just shut down and stop existing for some reason.

>>715592651
What the hell does that have to do with this?
Are you an insane person?

>skg isnt retroactive so good old dead games like gundam evolution wont get restored
>the only games that will get protected are whatever shitty-ass GAAS Concordlikes the AAA industry will shit up next
This is why I wont sign the petition, these games deserve to die.

>>715592531
>even more deeply
How deeply are they involved currently in game development, care to elaborate?

>>715592623
The EU has harmed a huge amount of european industries with over-regulation and bureaucracy, leading to even more offshoring and monopolization by megacorporations, which can absorb the cost of compliance. This is by design.

You love it, because you are niggercattle and worship authority as long as you perceive them as caring for your needs, while not understanding how they keep you poor and dependent.


>>715592736
Thought so.

>>715592334
Saaaar andarstaan saar, it is complicated to make new car with provision to destroy it when we feel like it

>>715592770
Would it not mean that future Gundam Evolution-like games won't get wrekt, no?

>>715592660
and after years of those games being supported by fans, EA decided, in a weird bit of good natured decision making, to make official servers available again for both so people wouldnt have to use game ranger anymore. shit like this is why SKG is so important. we need more of companies actually providing the tools to keep games alive.

>WE'RE GOING TO GET THE GOVERNMENT TO FORCE YOU TO GIVE US YOUR SERVER SOFTWARE FOR FREE.
>GIVE IT TO US OR ELSE WERE ARE GOING TO HAVE YOU ARRESTED OR KILLED.
>YOU WILL COMPLETELY OVERHAUL YOUR ENTERPRISE SCALE SOFTWARE TO WORK ON A WINDOWS PERSONAL PC, OR WE WILL HAVE YOU KILLED.
>COMPLY OR WE WILL HAVE YOU FINED. REFUSE TO PAY THE FINE AND YOU WILL BE IMPRISONED. REFUSE TO BE IMPRISONED AND WE WILL KILL YOU. HOW FUCKING DARE YOU NOT PROVIDE ONLINE VIDEO GAME TO ME FOREVER.

>>715592874
What's EA's game right now? The also made old C&C games completely open source. That is VERY unlike EA.

Look at this.
Just awful EU meddling. How dare they.

>>715592943
>I'm too stupid to control myself and not buy the slop
>daddy eu save me from the bad men

>>715592874
NCsoft had done the unprecedented - they handed over City of Heroes Online officially to a group operating a private server. They still kept their IP despite doing that, so the IP losing scare is just a bogeyman.

>>715592781
>over-regulation
Oh yeah. Name 10 EU regulations that go over the line and should be removed.

>>715592989
There's a reason publishers spend millions on researching how to manipulate their customers you fucking moron.

>>715592989
>abloo bloo bloo da gubberment is mean to me

>>715592940
i have NO idea. they'll do the most reprehensible, anti consumer shit, and then in the next breath be like "hey guys, we made it easier to play our old, unsupported games online again:)" i dont understand.

>>715593028
and Epic let the owners of the OldUnreal site host free downloads for Unreal 1 and Unreal Tournament. companies have ALREADY been doing this, so the amount of pushback against SKG by these corporate faggots is baffling. clearly its not hard to do if multiple companies have ALREADY DONE IT.

So is this the game market's brilliant strategy to stop the initiative... Make schizo threads on /v/?

>>715593031
The regulation that says that you can't buy a ticket at the cineplex if you're single.

>>715589817 (OP)
>tfw still playing Ragnarok Online decades later
Yes.

>>715589817 (OP)
THOR DETECTED ON 4CHAN SOIL.

>>715592770
I signed the first one not really knowing it was ONLY about GAAS gayms.
Not signing this time.

>>715593047
>>715593046
>>715593031
EU bootlickers are so gross. All that propaganda worked on you little fags when you were growing up, exactly how we were worried it would.

Enjoy your mass migration niggers and total erasure of your national identity and culture I guess, you sure do seem to want it bad.

>>715589817 (OP)
>CONCORD
no
>UBISLOP
no
>Korean games
Umm yes, actually? Anything made by Asia is probably good

>>715593553
MEN. GIVE THAT FAGGOT A VOLLEY!

>>715593440
That's a US regulation, you're confusing things here.

>>715593579
schizo moment

>>715593440
i frequently visit a government-subsidized cinema alone as it's actually cheaper and shows better movies than the commercial ones

>>715589817 (OP)
Yes, i will play the games i have purchased forvever.

>>715589817 (OP)
I mean concord is such a historically monumental failure that it would be neat to be able to go back and play it to see what they had actually made, for reasons of historical curiosity

so it's a great example of the kind of game that should be preserved, actually

>>715589817 (OP)
You are not seeing the end goal of enshittefication. Every game could have a login requirement.

>>715593579
We are talking about regulating out of control greedy videogame publishers. Why are you going on /pol/ schizo rants?

>>715592932
Yeah this is all above board, I say this sort of thing all the time.

>>715591212
>>715590983
>>715590001
>>715590247
if you impatiently buy live-service slop without reading the TOS, then it's completely on you. It's your responsibility to be an informed consumer and understand the risks before buying.

>>715589817 (OP)
You'll in inevitably preserve some shit along the way, yes.

>>715594241
Nah.

>>715594241
Seems like a huge waste of time to make hundreds of millions of people read the TOS for everything they buy instead having game companies write consumer friendly terms of service that aren't designed to fuck people over.

>>715593579
go back to /pol/, schizo

>i would like to play concored as a joke for free
yes
>i would like to play the crew offline
yes
>i want to play DRIFT CITY
YES

>>715592932
Sounds good to me. Comply or die, nigger

BLM for gamers.

A useless movement that gets empty support via meaningless catchphrases and will go nowhere because it has no realistic goal.

black lives don't matter and bad games deserve to die.

>>715589817 (OP)
so is this the new spam template for the next 5 years

>just be a smart customer to not get scammed bro
>okay I'll start an initiative to make these scams illegal
>NOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT

>>715594785
The goal is to have games that I purchases to be playable nigger. They've done it in the past, they can do it now. I can still play some dogshit peruvian jank from the 90's that runs on DOS to this day.

fuck off corpo shills
we're winning

>>715595179
>gamers will always win
piratesoftware is a gamer too though...

>>715594785

Black lives don't matter, games deserve preservation, you deserve death.

Imagine being a million... no billion dollar corporation and get mogged by Ivan chugging down cheap vodka.
>We can't make our games work without these hundreds of microservices and decouple them after EoL because... we can't.
>Cyka blyat *reverse engineers the server code and emulates the calls, leaves*

>>715589817 (OP)
People do actually want to play concord to see how bad it was.

>>715594554
if you don't want to read it, then simply don't take the risk and don't buy it

>>715589817 (OP)
keep digging your hole you furry rat mage

Also not sure why developers and publishers claim it's impossible. Online games used to have their own custom server interfaces where players could run their own servers easily.

Did they just lose the technology or are they full of shit?

>>715592778
They're the reason lootboxes are mostly gone now
the horror... I miss lootboxes so fucking much...

>>715595179
Showing jewtubers like charlie and mutahar does not help your case whatsoever

Does SKG allow devs to delist their games from stores whenever as long as the people who bought them before can still play it?

>>715595376
theyre full of shit. AAA devs dont give a shit about game preservation. they wanna make sure we play what they tell us to play.

>>715591359
I believe there's a server that hosts games on the weekends these days, I'd dig around on /m/ if you still wanna play it. Wish MSGO was able to be saved as well, I miss that game so fucking much

>>715595312
i mean, reverse engineering western stuff is practically russian culture. Peter the great is mostly great because he did a trip through the Netherlands.

>>715595412
I would say that'd be the case, as long as someone who bought it can play it.

>>715595430
Neat.

>>715591281
man, i liked that game too. i only stopped playing because of the HORRID macrotransactions. i just wanted Unicorn and it would take a week of constant grinding to get it. fuck Bamco, greedy faggots.

>>715593653
What? There are government-subsidized cinemas?
Why the fuck?

>>715589867
yes

>>715595370
Yeah but people do want to buy games and making all these people read the TOS for what they're buying is a huge waste of time when you could just require that they don't fuck over the people giving them money in the TOS.

>>715595412
Yeah, I don't see why SKG would interfere with it, so long as people that actually bought them can still play them. Games get taken off of stores for a variety of reasons.