From the moment I understood the lack of 40k vidya threads in the catalog, It disgusted me.

Lion won
Girly elf fucking man lost

>>715606638
he mellowed out way way way way too much

>>715606594 (OP)
tranny franchise

If the imperium aren't supposed to be the good guys, why are they the protagonists of every non RTS game?

Fire warrior doesn't count as it was a janky mess and rightfully forgotten

>>715607118
They are the good guys.

>>715607175
lol

>>715607118
Fun villains are fun to play.

>>715606594 (OP)
What do you think the votann are going to do in mechanicus 2? Technically they are the closest to anything of an ally for the imperium. Will they still be fighting the tech priests?

>>715607212
but they are. There are no peaceful races in 40k. Every race vies for supremacy of their own race.

>in b4 Tau
Including the Tau. They do it more subtly by castrating and brainwashing other races psychically or otherwise.

The only arguable good guys are the farsight enclave but they are already dying and doomed.

>>715607445
They've finally done it, GW has successfully uno reversed Blizzard

>>715607445
I'm more interested in the release date.

>>715607445
Fun fact: the ones with the shiny opaque space helmets are AI robots and the others are simply clones.

>>715606594 (OP)
>redditus
lol lmao
admech is a söyboy faction
GW, give us men of iron or dark mechanicum game instead

>>715607840
>faction I hate is onions
>faction I like is based
retard

>>715607916
mfw I like the faction anon doesn't. It's over for me right?

>>715607118
They are the good guys.
40k is about Imperium vs Chaos.

>>715607118
They're generally the most approachable, but it really depends on the franchise. Fantasy makes a number of different factions playable through Total War and Bloodbowl, there are several 40k Ork games and Mechanicus 2 will allow for playable necrons
>>715607445
>inb4 at least one leading tech-priest knows that they're AI but doesn't mind AI coming back

>>715607840
>mechanicum

Based

>>715608102
>doesn't mind AI coming back
Even the necrons know not to fuck with sentient AI. Votann are paving the way to create a new chaos faction under the leadership of Vashtorr. That way the Votann would get a rival faction.

>>715608128
umm ackstually that's legio cybernetica....

>>715608271
They use plenty of AI but their idea is that others should serve them, I don't think any wars against AI were mentioned in the context of necrons, and they're ALL sapient AI with some forced "obey your superiors" protocols.

>>715608485
>I don't think any wars against AI were mentioned in the context of necrons
They have a decree which strictly forbids use of certain classes of super intelligent AI which implies they've faced the issue before. It was in one of the newcron books I read.

>>715608635
I ain't seen that yet. But technically though their AI war was against the C'tan

>>715606594 (OP)
I hope Dawn of war 1 definitive edition is good.

>>715606594 (OP)
>>>/tg/

>>715606594 (OP)
Waiting for the Total war 40k announcement by the end of this year.

>>715606594 (OP)
We need a 40kid containment board.
>b-but /tg/
No. A real one. Just to contain this cancer.

I still desire a new Eldar game

>>715606594 (OP)
>Magos Dominus Redditus
kek

>>715607634
>but they are.
Hey buddy when are you finallyu moving into Russia?

>>715606594 (OP)
is that thing alive?

>>715613558
of course it is. That's how the most faithful imperials are provided the opportunity to serve even after their bodily demise.

>>715613558
It's not. It's just a basic drone encased in a skull.

>>715614386
are you implying that it's a heretical AI?
no no no, clearly its a human thats been reduced through surgery and the addition of NON THINKING machinery into its current state.
we would never make abominable intelligence

>>715613558
Even in death he serves the Omnissiah

>>715607445
FOR THE ANCESTORS. I hope they add a votann campaign as DLC.

im looking forward to the definitive edition of dawn of war 1.

>>715614572
Basic computers are fine in the Imperium. They're called cogitators and they're basically your modern computers. Not everything is a servitor, that wouldn't be sustainable.

40k more like 40gay

>>715613558
It's el espiritu de la maquina

>>715610428
>>715614856
I don't like the capture point mechanic in RTS games. It often leads to lopsided matches and limits the strategy element of the game to "just keep rushing and aggressing or die".

>>715607118
Because GW is a bunch of angloid merchants that saw Firewarrior as nothing more than a puff piece for their new line of models. Everything only exists to prop up the plastic crack if it runs the risk of surpassing that GW will shut it down. https://youtu.be/q8Qw6qfurxU

>>715615060
merci mon ami

>>715614856
If it can run UA without crashing I will consider it to be GOTY for that alone.

>>715615060
This. Total War reviving Fantasy was ironically the worst possible outcome for TW Warhammer.
Everything they do now is being given GW's 'Oversight'.
Not the mention the crap that's happened with Cathay recently.

>>715615193
For me it's them kneecapping youtubefags with their meme compilations and fan animations. People are spending too much time laughing and not enough buying.

>>715615193
>Not the mention the crap that's happened with Cathay recently.
I will take Cathay wank every time over marinewank

>>715607118
Nobody is supposed to be the good guys.
That's the whole fucking point.

After 40 odd years you can count the 'good' 40k games on one hand.

>>715615425
>wanking off the chinks with a donut steel army
Maybe they will learn the lessons from every FPS in the mid 2000s. If you don't tow the party line you ain't making shit.

>>715615425
the dragon children are pseudo primarchs, they're trying so hard to go all in on 30ktards

>>715615385
They could have made more money if they had absorbed that meme video channel unto warhammer +.

>>715615631
>the dragon children are pseudo primarchs
Nope, because:
1) They are cute
2) They have functional libido

>>715615385
That's actually an over-reaction by many content creators over long-standing GW legal practices.
GW has been extremely defensive of their properties ever since the Chapterhouse incident, which led to wide-scale company reform. The entire debacle of faction name changes and many rule revisions stems from GW essentially losing their case back when they used more generic terms. They now go an extra mile when it comes to legal, at least in keeping up appearances. It's the same as the WoW private server debacle from a few years back; Blizzard will send out hand-wavey "Cease and Desist" orders to show they're putting in effort, then never actually make moves against those servers because it's not actually worth the time. They can still gov"Oh well, we tried" and keep ownership without actually having to do much.
The big problem is TTS; they 'listened' to GW's notice which seemed to authenticate the threat which wasn't really there. The truth is that TTS was starting to get too large for itself and Alfabusa couldn't decide which way he wanted to go. The series ended right before the Fall Of Cadia arc started (notably; the Ynnead segment, one of the worst plots in 40k history) which would lead to Guilliman coming back. On top of the rapidly expanding cast, Alfa was getting stuck with bigger and bigger issues for a series that had been overtaken by memes even as he tried to make secondary sub-series to focus back on lore. Instead of dealing with the entire debacle, he called it quits before things could go wrong. GW just gave him a decent and timely excuse to bow out.

>>715607118
Because they are the human faction and they are the most developed one with more options for storytelling than "green hooligan mushrooms" or "kooky Egyptian robots" or "space elves that exist only to lose to the shilled character of the week"

>>715616273
I can only assume that the same thing happened with SODAZ before he moved on to do Project Sunburst. Time will tell if M$ employs similar measures since Fallout isn't getting another game till the late 2060s at this point.

>>715615425
>Cathay is actually the oldest civilization in Fantasy
>Cathay invented High Magic. They have better Wizards than the Elves. (The Dragon Emperor actually contrributed the most to the Vortex, the High Elves just never realized it)
>Cathay inventer gunpowder. They have better cannons and firearms than the Dwarfs
>Cathay's citizens are happy and prosperous workers, wholly loyal to the Dragon Emperor and his bloodline
>Cathay's dragons are more powerful and more intelligent than other dragons
>Miao Ying personally knew of and had a fondness for Sigmar

>>715616968
How are the not-Rus by comparison?

>>715616968
Yep and..?

>>715616273
TTS was starting to get shit anyway

>>715615053
And I found it a great mechanic to make for split force side objective maneuvering, rather than just rolling around with a CTRL+A deathball.

>>715614572
Non-servitor robots are actually allowed under Imperial law like with the Legio Cybernetica. They're just not allowed to be the kind of self-improving free-thinking AI like the Men of Iron were.

>>715616273
Chapterhouse incident?

>>715616968
>The Dragon Emperor actually contrributed the most to the Vortex
At this point, everyone helped with the Vortex except the high elves themselves.

>>715617169
Nah. It devolves into a lane based game which DoW 3 encapsulates. The macro of maintaining multiple resources like in the age games is more engaging since it adds on top of the micro layer.

>>715617567
>Non-servitor robots are actually allowed under Imperial law like with the Legio Cybernetica.
Nope. When Space Wolf apothecary found out that Iron Hands dreadnoughts are just robots he called it abomination

>>715617169
>mods add in the ability to use temporary and permanent dropships giving them a deep strike ability comparable to the Steel Rehn maneuver
>microing a small sabotage effort behind the lines before sneaking back out again while a big battle rages between the skirmishing AIs

>>715617679
>space furries
No one cares what they think

>>715615060
Oy Vey! Shut it down indeed.

Bought into Fantasy Flight Games tabletops, got me into the Warhammer traditional gaming universe. Bought a few minis when they went on discount, grabbed Space Hulk 2014, etc.

Realized that these instructions are so fucking dense with endless updates that I'm never going to play it, but oh my god the Fantasy Flight lineup of Warhammer? Great. No constant updates beyond an expansion I might buy. Blood Bowl, Forbidden Stars, Death Angel? Awesome games. Then GW broke up their partnership with FFG, probably because they wanted to sell more plastic crap or wanted to charge shitloads for licensing. Pisses me off because now if I want to play the Death Angel expansions, which were print-to-order I either gotta play Tabletop Simulator on steam or pay out the ass on ebay.

>>715617679
corgies need something to cry about

>>715617082
Arcane Journal isn't out yet for them, so no info yet.
>>715617624
Basically;
>GW used to make rule profiles for units that didn't have models
>This was to encourage kitbashing and creativity (namely because those factors would drive more sales for models to serve as parts)
>Smaller company, Chapterhouse, starts making and selling models for those profiles
>GW catches wind of this and files a lawsuit, as Chapterhouse technically IS infringing rights
>Courts rule against GW; Chapterhouse is making a product that GW doesn't really sell therefore they aren't really in the wrong
>Court goes further and states that GW can't hold ownership of broad fictional races that they didn't create
>GW's response is to immediately strip out any unit profile that doesn't have a specific model for it, then they go on to rename many factions in both Fantasy and 40k just to cover their bases
All of the shittier renaming conventions for 40k stem from the incident. It's part of why AoS is full of dogshit "[Adjective] [Noun-Noun]" unit names.

>>715607445
They look like generic StarCraft ripoffs. They're supposed to be the dwarf expies in space, but nothing in their visual design communicates that at all, they scarcely even have any form of facial hair it's shameful. If they were going to directly lift the visuals of another franchise why didn't they just copy DRG and old-school 40k Squats?

>>715618240
>>GW's response is to immediately strip out any unit profile that doesn't have a specific model for it, then they go on to rename many factions in both Fantasy and 40k just to cover their bases
Is this where the gay trend of calling the IG = Astra Milawhothefuckcares comes from?

>>715607445
They added the reddit dwarfs to Mechanicus 2? Top kek.

>>715617087
retard

>>715607445
RELEASE WHEN
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>>715618475
Yes. Eldar also became Aeldari because Eldar is a Middle Earth term, ans Tau became T'au.

>>715607445
>shit spess dorfs
>in a game primarily about the toasterfuckers

>>715607445
>votann
I hated that faction the moment I saw them and now I can't even pretend that they don't exist.

>>715618938
>>in a game primarily about the toasterfuckers
Not this time.

>>715619034
>nucrons
>they all bark like Fromsoft theater actors now
Meh give me Oldcrons or give me death.

>>715618365
>why didn't they just copy DRG and old-school 40k Squats?
something something it doesn't "do justice" to dwarves or whatever, gw was embarrassed for some reason of squats when they were awesome
>they scarcely even have any form of facial hair it's shameful.
this, not seeing a single beard longer than like an inch made me just discount votann as a faction, no

>>715619202
Oldcrons are just metal Nids.
Pissed off robots are more fun.

>>715619435
>complaining about beards and other dwarf tropes
The votann are meant to be subversive and not follow regular dwarf tropes. Their highest non AI leader is a woman. Get educated.

>>715619775
wow guess that's why they suck
>we took out everything you liked about dwarves, but don't worry, it's "subversive"!
oh but feel free to enjoy your jar of shit, i'll be alright, thanks

>>715607445
>votann offer to help against crons for whatever reason
>game gives you the choice of accepting their help and allying with them or purging them for tech heresy
would be my guess

>>715619202
oldcrons only work as a vague short background to tabletop gameplay
>my entire faction are silent unthinking metal aliens who kill all mortal life in service to their wrathful gods
that's cool, but that is nowhere from a lore perspective and makes story fucking impossible

>>715620054
>Videx - "Suffer not the manlet to live" - 14:12 Britbonginus
>[Purge the heretics]

>>715620054
necrons really don't "ally" much, they're right behind tyranids as the least "alliable" race in the galaxy. my guess is it's a three-way war with everyone being against each other

>>715619202
Get on with the times grandpa
Necrons are all about Trazyn's wacky hijinks now

>>715616968
I can only assume this was meant to drag the chinks into the hobby, but do they even care about fantasy? I thought Cathay wasn't even that popular in Total War Warhammer.

>>715620540
GW REALLY wants Cathay to be popular because it's an entirely new army. TOW players can often either find cheap second-hand Fantasy models or in some cases are old Fantasy players who still have armies. Many factions also are only getting a handful of new things. Meanwhile Cathay is a fully and completely new army that people would be buying lots of models for.

>>715620767
Then surely they realize the "They are incredible and amazing and invented everything and they can do nothing wrong and they gave Sigmar yellow fever and..." doesn't make them stand out any. I mean, maybe I'll be wrong and China will turn around on the incredible fantasy Chinese, but I really doubt Warhammer Fantasy will ever be something they are interested in.

>>715620442
alternative being... nothing? oldcrons might as well not have existed

>>715621336
>the potential of the chinkoid market spans across the literal millions with no upward growth but pleanty of useless capital to spare
>placating the ego of the Chinese people can guarantee you wealth beyond measure if you do it right
Wouldn't be the first time that it's happened and it certainly won't be the last. What's more surprising is how they haven't asked for exclusive distribution rights let alone a way to produce the stuff locally.

>>715621336
Since we're on /v/ I know this may not be public knowledge, so let me be clear on something; GW is utterly fucking retarded and all of the success they have is in spite of their monumentally stupid, short-sighted, and narrow-viewed attempts at marketing. Space Marines keep GW afloat because they genuinely cannot fuck up Marines to the point of them failing.

>>715621709
I know placating their ego tends to work out, but usually the setting itself has to also appeal to them in some way. From what I've seen, they don't like gritty settings, so unless GW wants to alienate their existing audience by changing the entire setting itself, I don't think making Cathay amazing will be enough to bring in Chinamen.
>>715621782
I know, but I guess I just assume that eventually they have to learn their lesson, even when it seems like the universe itself rewards them for being obstinate greedy bastards.

>>715608687
None of that was AI though?
And no, Necrons aren't sapient AI. They've had their consciousness transferred. Different. The intelligence in them arose organically (=naturally) and was then moved to a mechanical body. Canopteks are the closest to AI, but they're not advanced enough, really.

this franchise is more headcanon than actual vidya, sad because it has the potential but they just do rts and low budget slop

>>715622532
they've done tbt, crpgs, fps, tps. there really isn't a major genre they haven't done

>>715620365
I can think of two instances where they allied the imperium off the top of my head.

>>715622982
They haven't done a proper racing game yet

>>715623089
>those names

>>715623089
or a fighting game.

>>715606594 (OP)
That servo skull is a magos?

>>715629203
Fairly sure it's just the last organic part left of him and it can be plugged into a full mechanical body.

>>715607445
What they did to the Squats is disgusting, almost as garbage as Primaris

>>715629203
no, not really, it's probably the skull of a former magos who was obliterated or something and only his skull was left

>>715629510
Votann were designed at the peak of AI hype and it shows.

>>715629203
it's his skull and brain with an intact set of memories but with little personality or will
he basically turned himself into Siri/Alexa so he could still be of some use after death
a magos dominus (his rank) is a very high-ranking tech priest, he chose to become a servo skull after probably many hundreds of years of "life"
to be made into a servo skull is an honor and the brain is (mostly) intact; only adepts or above would be allowed to "live on" as a servo skull
to be turned into a servitor involves basically degaussing your brain (or removing it entirely) and using your head as a computer to open doors or flush toilets; it is a form of capital punishment

>>715630605
Most books only have servo skulls which are barely sentient. I guess him still maintaining his sentience can be chalked up to him getting the best that their technology could offer.

>>715629510
to this day i'm still not sure what was wrong with squats, honestly. everything about them just made me go "hell yeah"
pic rel is fucking cool, i don't get it

>tried tyranny and pillars of eternity some years ago
>super boring
>get divinity os2 on sale
>it's very good
>try rouge trader later on
>words words words words
the crpg genre is a bit all over the place

>>715631217
Too cool for modern plebs that make up GWs staff and fanbase

>>715631326
Sorry to say this but you have shit taste in CRPGs. You better stick with mainstream Larian crap.

>>715631326
RT is Owlcat's first good crpg and they've said they will do a fully-voiced crpg next (also a W40k)

>>715631425
people can call it "reddit" all they fucking want but the DRG dwarves are the peak space dwarf aesthetic and culture, i don't care what anyone says

>>715607118
The Imperium are not "the good guys", they're the protaganist faction.

And just because the system is corrupt and awful doesn't mean heroes still don't shine out. Just because it's Grimdark, doesn't mean love and friendship never happen.

Despite it all, the Emperor loves Humanity, and he loves you.

Plus compared to what living under Chaos is like, it's Imperium or horrors.

>>715620365

>>715631485
Full voicework is cancer on crpgs, it just takes time and resources away from the important parts of development

>>715607445
>fantasy slayer equivalent
>literally no beard, not even any hair
you cannot imagine how much i hate it

>>715631648
Full Voicing and more romances, seethe about it.

>>715623074
Let me guess both were due to the intervention of the silent king. None of the other necrons would even care.

>>715631676
The nuSquats are soulless in every meaning of the word.

>>715631116
it is highly likely that he did all the work himself before that became impossible
even adepts would consider it shameful to allow others to augment their bodies, nonetheless a magos
whatever he is, he made it himself

I started using the dueling sword on my Zealot for the first time and now my finger hurts.

>>715631217
honestly I think GW just couldn't figure out what to do with squats
after enough time had passed and nobody had done anything with them, I just think nobody wanted to take the plunge on writing about them

>>715631326
That's modern CRPGs for you. it's nerds trying to capture what THEY, individually, think a CRPG should be made, which causes different philosophies to breed.

and also no matter what, someone will say your taste is crap because of that.

>>715632096
really dude? All you have to do is click on hordes and hold click for other enemies. It's the least strenuous weapon to use.

>>715632157
The problem with GW nowadays is they are too up their own ass about 40k being a 'serious' setting, that is now focused around the actions of a small group of superheroes.

>>715606594 (OP)

>>715631578

>>715633185
owlcat threads are absolute cancer. What passes for discussion there is always talks about fucking someone or something in the games. Disgusting.

>>715631578
>>715633314
>THE NECRONS WERE TIRED?
>THE BLOOD ANGELS FOUND SOMETHING DISTASTEFUL?

>>715631578
>bottom-middle

>>715607212
>edit: Wow, thanks sooo much for the gold! You rock! :3

>>715607445
I hate dwarfs and especially space dwarfs. So fucking lame and GgggGggggHhhhhaaaaaaaYyYyyyyyy. The Votann are gayer than cum on a mustache

>>715619034
Based.

>>715607118
Space marines are the good guys. Humanity only exists to prop up the space marines who are the people who actually matter.

>>715634718
kek.
40Klets who insist it's a serious non-comedic setting are always eternally BFTO.

Any good necron audiobooks? I've listened to Ruin and Infinate and the Divine. I loved them.

>>715635504
That's about it.

>>715607118
>authoritarian space empire vs literal daemons from hell
Gee both sides are evil

>>/vg/

>>715635972
no no, /tg/
and i'm never going back

>>715635795
Damn. I love those mfers like you wouldn't believe

>>715636328
i'd rather have my three incredible necron books over 100 marine books of irredeemable shit and maybe 1 good one

>>715635504
just making sure, you listened to Reign as well, right?

>>715636505
Yes, I did! Thank you. I guess it's time to listen to all 3 again.
>i'd rather have my three incredible necron books over 100 marine books of irredeemable shit and maybe 1 good one
Man, I can't read or listen to anymore loyalist marineslop. It just makes me angry over how boring and gay the loyalists are.
>it is honorable to be dutiful in our honorable ways of duty. *scowels* perhaps I'm not dutiful enough in my honor?? God emperor, what does this mean? Guide my honorable duty to blah blah blah
FuuuuUuuUUuuuuhhhk.
I still get a kick out of chaos guys though. Those Fabious Bile books are real treasures. I love angry grandpa.

>>715635972
>stop talking about videogames /v/

>>715636997
let me tell you, if you hate that about loyalist marines, do NOT read any sisters books, holy fuck it is insufferable to listen to those girls speak for even a minute. it's like that about marines except not even exaggerated and worse

>>715637181
I really, really like the bolter bitches but refuse to pick up any of their books. I'm happy with my headcanon when it comes to them. I don't even want to know how badly, or even how, modern woke blacklibrary author's could fuck up literal girl-bosses but I imagine it'd be in ways I never expected.

>>715637181
>>715637512
I heard Fehervari sisters stuff is really good, like Requiem Infernal. And it's all horror stories.

>>715606594 (OP)

>>715637512
no, it's exactly the way you expect, it's lore accurate sisters where every single line they say, every single one reads like
>we MUST make it to our blessed goal, oh my holy god emperor, bless us for our most sacred duty, faith and fire my sisters, we are the light that pushes back the darkness, in his name we are sanctified, oh holy emperor i am not WORTHY of this duty!
which is fine for like, one sentence but when it's stretched over AN ENTIRE 10 HOUR BOOK AND EVERY FUCKING LINE god damn does it become grating

>>715607445
When I pirate the game I will play both Admech and Necron campaigns and completely decimate the Votrans

>>715619202
If you want to say that /yourdudes/ are just metal tyranids than feel free to do so.
But to say that a faction with no potential lore would be interesting is dumb

And speaking of bolter bitches horror.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3470850/Void_Martyrs/

>>715619584
Loved the first book, didn't enjoy the second.

>>715637869
Oh man, just a brutal slog... yeah, fuck that. Like you said, it's fine for a sentence but after 10 hours I'd want to fucking kill myself. The new Ork books were fun, Warboss, Ghazghkull and whatnot.
>Oi boss! Wut we doin 'er?
>Imma crump ya with me shiny snazzhammah, ya git!!

>>715638554
at first i didn't either, but try going through it again now that you know what happens, it's actually way more enjoyable on repeats, i noticed and liked a lot more the second time around

>>715638659
you should absolutely listen to Da Red Gobbo collection, fantastic orky stories

>>715631535
>The Emperor loves you
Boy I hope he doesn't love me as much as he did Angron, or Magnus, or Lorgar, or Fulgrim or...

>>715638261
>Votrans

>>715638771
Done and done!
Luv me 'ammer
Luv me 'crons
Luv me greens.
Simple as.

>>715637782
>I heard Fehervari sisters stuff is really good
I can attest. His dark coil series is great.

>>715638795
What if he loves you as much as he loved Sanguinius, his most beloved treasure and best boy?

>>715608102
>Mechanicus 2 will allow for playable necrons
I will now buy your game