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>>715608187 (OP)
sorry fellow mechwarrior.
no one has soul in this board.

>>715608409
Must all be clanners on /v/. I hate clanners.

its alright anon. we had a thread not too long ago. to start anything you have to make it bait unfortunately.
just enjoy the game

where do I start with mechwarrior

>>715608543
I'll be honest I kinda just want to talk any mecha games. I need to try Shattered Steel. It's been sitting in my Gog library
>>715608559
Depends. MW4 and MW5 are the easiest to play but I started with MW2. Try it if you know Dosbox and can handle a little .conf editing.

>>715608559
MW5 Mercs. That game with all DLC is huge and covers the entire timeline up to the Clan invasion. MW5 Clans continues from there. Damn there's a lot of black women in Clan Smoke Jaguar, lol.

I tried to play Living Legends but even just changing the controls was too obtuse for me.

>>715608559
Just get the MW Quadrology. It has all the fixes included and should pretty much run out of the box for all the games and their expnasions.

>>715608737
Yeah the games might not be for you then. The obtuse controls are what make them fun to me.

>>715608791
No, I mean like, changing the controls was through some separate java thing I couldn't get to run without digging through Internet archives for a specific older runtime not officially available anymore.

>>715608931
Oh, I never actually played MWLL. I have had to edit the MechWarrior 2 controls via a text editor to get WASD going.

>SHIFT TO VECTOR CANNON MODE
>ALL ENERGY LINES CONNECTED
>LANDING GEAR AND CLIMBING IRONS LOCKED
>INNER CHAMBER PRESSURE RISING NORMALLY
>LIFE RING HAS STARTED REVOLVING
>READY TO FIRE

I HATE PGI
I HATE PGI
I HATE PGI
I HATE PGI
I HATE PGI

>>715608559
You play MW4 and then nothing else, since nothing else compares.

>>715609075
MW3 > MW4 imo.
That game has real cockpits to see bullets fly through.

How's MW5 on console? Or do I just get it on PC for mods?

>>715609353
The latter

>>715609385
Thought as much. I was just weighing up either comfy couch gaming or just the fact you can mod.

>>715609353
Get it on PC. Vanilla is 6/10 game at best, modded it can go up as 9.5/10.
It's just PGI being lazy gay niggers as usual.

>>715608409
mecha games are pretty dead

zoomies have only played the newest ac

>>715608187 (OP)
Can someone recommend me mech games other than MW? I love them but played those too much and now I can't scratch that itch.
Preferably with slower mechs rather than the somersaulting gundam mech games, but I'll be honest I'm pretty desperate for mech games at this point.

I tried Robot Alchemic Drive a few weeks ago after an anon recommended it and that was a fun little experience with the different perspectives for example.

>>715609353
MW5 is genuinely not worth playing without mods. Even at the barest level where you still want to play mostly vanilla, YAML comes with some really needed player tools. You can't play MW5 without the kill target command for when enemies spawn under the map.

>>715609813
What have you actually played before?

>>715609819
>without the kill target command for when enemies spawn under the map.
Jesus, they shipped this to consoles?

>>715609813
Heavy Gear 1 and 2
Gungriffon 1 and 2 if you can handle ancient console controls

>>715609813
Try Ring of Red, Hi Macs, or some of the more simulationist gundam games like Zeonic Front.
>>715609912
It's happened to me twice in 30 hours. Not all the time, but it happens.

>>715610017
hi macs is only nipponese right?

I just want to blow clanners to shit with a demolisher in a city. Is it too much to ask for?

>>715609912
>Jesus, they shipped this to consoles?
It's PGI, what do you think.

>>715608187 (OP)
When the fuck are we getting remasters of MechWarrior 2 and 3?

>>715610190
The source code to both is completely lost iirc. I worry the same happened to Heavy Gear 2

>>715609075
MW4 isn't even as good as 3, what are you on about?

>>715610263
To be fair to that anon. MW4 has Mercs. For replay value its the best one. Even being better than MW2 mercs as much as I love that buggy ass game. But if we're talking Vengeance vs MW3 then MW3 wins easy.

>>715610058
It has that thing with english menus, japanese everything else, pretty sure it's like that natively. It does hurt the advanced controls and mission objectives and stuff, but it's easy to set up.

You also need to set the controls to your liking, the default arcade controls are stinky. If you like mechwarrior you'll want gear and slide or traditional. Otherwise you can pretty much just drop in and start shooting stuff till you figure it all out. There's a full guide+walkthrough on youtube if you get stuck.

>>715610397
guess I need to give it a go

>>715610397
Could it ever get translated? Even if its shitty machine translation? Or is it a game thats hard coded in every regard?

>>715610483
even hard coded games can get translated it's usually a matter of someone being willing to put in the effort and with a such never-heard level game it's unlikely to happen

>>715610553
Sure but it might be harder if it's not very friendly to modding. I just know I had to bust out a .txt for Front Mission 2.

>>715609847
Shit, I'm going off of memory so I'm going to miss a large amount of games but here goes
>MechWarrior series 1-5
>Battletech (2018)
>Brigador
>Into the Breach
>Earth Defense Force series (I love the Mech v Kaiju setup a tad bit more than Mech v Mech)
>Armored Core series
>Super Robot Wars
>MuvLuv Alternative (I think that's the only mech VN I played, but I'm not sure)
>Neon Genesis Evangelion 2 (for the PS2)
>Robot Alchemic Drive
>War of the Monsters (PS2, technically mecha)
>Ultraman (for the PS2 again, not even mecha but the feeling is somewhat similar)
>some Gundam games I can't recall
I'm 100% I'm missing many games but I deeply appreciate any help in finding new ones.
Hell, I'd be content with games that are your bog standard anime mecha harem genres as long as you control mechs from any perspective.

>>715609918
Thanks anon, I'll check those out. I'm perfectly fine with ancient control schemes.

>>715610017
Thanks for these too anon. Never heard of HiMacs, I'll give that a whirl.

>>715610757
Alright here's my recs
>MechWarrior sims
Heavy Gear as anons mentions
Gungriffon and High-Macs as anons also mentioned
Earthsiege 2 and Starsiege. ES2 is more of the tank on legs combat, Starsiege is more fast paced.
Shattered Steel
Terra Nova: Strike Force Centari. If yoy ever played System Shock 1 you'll feel at home. Technically power armor but plays like a mech game.
>Others
Assault Suit Valken, Front Mission: Gun Hazard, and Metal Warriors are all kickass SNES side scrollers. Check them out.

>>715608559
Release order

whos up hawking their hawken

https://store.steampowered.com/app/984610/Mech_Merc_Company/

>Get email saying this was finally released
>Check the store
>Dev just pushed the alpha build to final and ceased all development
man

>>715611323
5 years of EA with 100 reviews doesn't pay the bills

>>715611257
>MW1
Don't think there's many takers for EGA graphics and PC speaker bleeps anon. Though there's the Jap and SNES versions.

A lot of you niggas don't know about Engines of Destruction, so I will shill it once again:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1937070/Engines_Of_Destruction/

>>715611369
yeah I'm not mad at the guy, I just wish liking mechs wasn't suffering

>>715610972
Thanks a lot anon, I'll check these out.
Have an old battletech art for your troubles.

>>715609819
>when enemies spawn under the map.
Oh jesus. Yeah I'm sticking to PC.

>>715611468
Looks a tad empty honestly. Even MW3 feels like it has more content. The game with 2 tracks for its OST. Still be willing to check it out.

>>715611645
genre is just too dead and failing to find fresh blood

>>715608559
You don't.

dead franchise

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3668270/Granvir_Zero_Front/
This is fun. Free version for some reason not listed as a demo but its own game. Paid version coming out sometime this year.

It's a roguelite mecha game where you pick up parts during missions and customize your mech between missions. Old demo had longer runs and I think the release version will also have those longer runs.

>>715610483
It's more that it's just old. Anyone who really cares has probably gotten used to it, and the youtube guides will really hold your hand through it anyway.
>>715612145
It's super active on indies right now. It's just pretty firmly choosing between armored core clone and mechwarrior clone rather than much in the way of fresh blood.

>>715609813
Gundam Battle Operation 2 is actually pretty slow. Feels more like the original Mobile Suit Gundam than the DBZ bullshit that came later. The game is jank as fuck though, especially on PC. It's also a fucking gacha.

>>715612063
It is. The game is still early in dev, but the gameplay core is really fucking solid and they seem to be aiming for more realistic, immersive approach, which I really like.

>>715612334
Man so close, this is a good looking game for its mechanics but I can't help but feel the indie unity stink of it. If someone just gave this guy 10+ devs and a budget.

I'm too intelligent to get MW3 running on Windows 10

>>715612408
>It's super active on indies right now
is it? I don't see it

>>715612516
Alright nigger here's what you do
>Install MW3 & Pirates Moon
>crack it with a noCD patch if you don't want to continue using Daemon Tools
>Drop dgVoodoo in there
>Configure dgVoodoo to cap the framerate to 60 FPS and run high res
>enable compatibility mode if your shits that fucked
> use _inmm.dll for CD music if, again, you're ditching Daemon Tools
Done

>>715612496
Please give the game a try. It's free. If you don't like it you will find out. It's got some rough edges but what is there is a lot of fun in my opinion.

>>715612516
>>715612673
Yeah dgVoodoo is essential for some old vidya.

>>715612712
Okay mr dev, I'll play your game.

>>715611659
cool art

>>715612518
We had like 4 total mech games on steam for ten years. If you didn't like MWO or that one weird racing game there wasn't much else. There's over a dozen in my wishlist now, some of which have released. It's looking up.

>>715612496
>indie unity stink
skipping a game that looks interesting because of some imagined boogeyman doesnt seem very smart

>>715612823
>If you didn't like MWO
It is rather easy to dislike MWO.

>>715612868
What boogeyman? I'm calling the game low budget looking. But I get that its likely 1 dev just making his dream game and even looks better than most amateur projects. I just feel like it could be so much more if it had some polish.

>>715612772
Not the dev but I am shilling it a bit. I hope that it does well enough on release that the dev gets to keep working on it instead of it dying out as tends to happen.

>>715612673
>Daemon Tools
Damn, that's a name I haven't heard in a while.

Holy shit, why do I have the urge to play MechCommander again? Based thread. Which one was the best, 2?

For me, it's Awesome.

>>715608187 (OP)
Does anyone know how to play MW3 on modern PCs? I was under the impression that it was trapped on windows 98/2000

>>715613437
Nothing could ever compare

>>715613313
I'll just reply and answer myself, it's 1. For some reason I had a memory there was 3, but apparently only 2 games.

>>715613453
>>715612673

>>715613539
Maybe you're thinking of the expansion pack. Or a similar game like Cyberstorm 2 or Metal Fatigue.

>>715613437
For me, it's Jen.

>>715613539
You might be thinking of Battletech.

>>715613742
What an incredibly shallow game.

I want a game where I get different mech parts and frames.
Ammo andenergy capacity balancing,
Perks like "increased fuel usage, but missiles have higher projectile speed"
Weight and heat management
Different legs and forms of movement
Missions where i fight other robots or enemies while doing missions.
Not extremely fast paced anime bullshit like fires over Rubicon where you just run past everything.
My friend suggested mech warrior 5 with mods.
I just want to be a build autist while having good progression and having combat feel good.

i only ever played mechwarrior 1 on SNES. this game was kino for the sole reason you could walk away indefinitely and never find the gameplay zone again

MW5 Mercs > MW5 Clans

The Clan characters all talk weirdly. Also the game feels easier because you have 4 friendly AI instead of 3, and your clan mechs are broadly superior to Inner Sphere mechs.

>>715614332
Try the older AC games. Specifically AC1 and Master of Arena.

>>715614332
Sounds like you might prefer some of the older Armored Core games. Some of them are DBZ stuff, but others are slower. I thought ACV was alright. You need a PS3 to play it, though.

>>715614564
>The Clan characters all talk weirdly
That's canonically correct.
The absolute cringe of PIG writing is the true problem.

>>715614564
Following up a big highly modded choose your own adventure game with linear narrative one, and then placing that narrative around the autistic alien weirdos that are clanners, was a big chain of mistakes.

>>715613437
Gonna be honest with you lad, I don't understand the appeal. Is it cuz he's wide and has no neck?

>>715615149
Clan's campaign model is not bad. The problem is that PGI is just fucking retarded to the core; the ideal is to have a MW5-like model (but more detailed, and immersive, not so heavily dependent on shitty procgen), sprinkled with linear narrative campaign missions like in the Clans. But for some reason, PGI is unable to grasp this concept, even though it's nothing new or irregular.

>>715615149
How so, it's just the reverse of MW2s sequence of events, from 31st to Mercs.
Or even follows the same path of MW1 to MW2

>>715614174
The mods are perfect for you then, since they add a bazillion meme game mechanics.

>>715615350
>looks cool as fuck
>one of the most rugged, dependable mechs in the setting
>nearly exclusively PPC platform and PPCs are fucking cool
>punches above its weight
>a badass brick that throws bricks
>BATTLEFISTS
>fitting name

>>715615476
Most of which should have been in the base game. Which is still in a sorry ass technical state, btw.

>>715615149
>>715615373
Nobody except the most diehard of BattleTech fans care about a linear story in this universe, especially when it's PGI that's writing it.
After a game that offered much more freedom, MW5C was doomed to fail. It's almost a Call of Duty campaign but you play as a mech pilot. The only fun of MW5M is the variety.
They need to go full Mount & Blade with this shit.
>>715615684
Nah, they add way too much silly crap. But yeah, the old build of Unity that the game still uses is hot trash and there will never be a new update or fix for it because HBS is dead and Paradox doesn't care, even though they could monetize the fuck out of it with their DLC practices.

>>715615445
Because they're on kind of thin ice and they needed a real crowd pleaser this time. Like half the reactions I saw was basically just "wait so it's 5 but I don't get to choose everything?" because that's pretty much the only thing they have going left.

>>715615879
>Nah, they add way too much silly crap.
The vanilla is under-engineered as shit, basically nothing matters, only the tonnage of your drop. With mods, you can go to the other extreme, over-engineer everything to shit and back, but that's up to the player, at least.

>>715615619
boats are gay as fuck and a sniper boat is doubly gay, give me an AC20 brawler any day

>>715616098
>gets rekt from behind the hill
More like ACK20 brawler, amirite.

>>715615619
Rifleman is better looking though. It's got a spoiler!

>>715616276
It's not better looking at all, but Rifleman is a very based mech (Stalker, too), so you get a pass.

>>715615025
ps3 emulation has come a long way, supposedly

Mechwarrior biggest problem is clinging to the fairly limited tabletop weapons preventing the games from being interesting.
That is all.

>>715616426
This is clans biggest issue.
Mods fixed the weapon variety issue for MW5.

>>715608187 (OP)
Is that motherfucking Easrthseige??

>>715615619
that's fair, I guess I just don't like ppc boats

>>715609813
I remember loving Gungriffon Blaze on PS2 as a teenager.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKvC3xvAXlo
Pretty dated now though. Seconding Ring of Red as well. Pretty neat game, but more RPGish.

>>715616426
The weapons roster is varied enough. The problem is that devs are monkeys who, for some unexplainable reason, stick to the nonsensical tabletop rules of autocannons (and other weaponry) having a range of a crossbow.
This is especially stupid when you consider that the original TT creators literally said that the low ranges of weaponry (and all derivative rules) are simply because they wanted the games to fit on a regular household table.

Apply at least somewhat realistic ballistics to all the weaponry (or, god forbid, to the armor, too) and you have an absolutely incredible, tactical game. Why this was never done is beyond me.

>>715616410
Of course. It just takes a lot of effort and sometimes luck for particular games. I mean, Bloodborne is emulatable now, and that's a PS4 game. I imagine Most PS3 games are good now as well.

>>715616098
I only truly enjoy ac-20 brawling but they're not exactly safe picks. It's way more fun weaving through terrain to make an approach than it is standing on a hillside and just lasering their penis off.
>>715616605
I think it's a shame how much of the playerbase just energyboats exclusively. Like wow man, 6 perfectly optimized ERLL for the late game, how daring. It's dull on the tabletop and it's pretty dull here.
>>715616747
The extra range wont help them beat pinpoint accuracy. Lasers are basically limited only by your ability to hold them over the part you want to hit.

>>715608187 (OP)
I love MWO (the only MW game I've played)

Why can't AAA games just copy it fuck. There's so few games like it.
>Slow stompy gameplay in a mech cockpit
>High TTK compared to other shooters
>Requires aim and choice of what parts you want to amputate or give up
>Balanced around both sides taking damage

>>715616747
MW5 Mercs had a mod that let you add targeting computers to your mech. These computers actually showed you the drop of ballistic rounds, which made sniping much easier.

>>715616753
the GWOT but with mechs aesthetic of AC5 was so cool

>>715616889
Slow stompy mechs suck.

>>715609813
Mecha Knights: Nightmare
It's budget Muv Luv basically, but I enjoyed it.

>>715616841
Lasers can be pretty great in MW5 and MW5 Clans if you go all in on them. Not many mechs can withstand 8 medium pulse lasers to the cockpit. The heat is manageable and of course you never run out of ammo.

>>715616841
>The extra range wont help them beat pinpoint accuracy. Lasers are basically limited only by your ability to hold them over the part you want to hit.
That's where other solutions come to play. Different ammo types for ballistics, less heat, automatic ballistic weapons other than RACs, etc. Shit would get a lot more different if your AC20 had a range of multiple km and could send multiple types of rounds (explosive, incendiary, airburst, etc.)

Imo, if anything, it's the lasers that should have a lower effectiveness in longer ranges.

>>715616889
MWO is extremely flawed and the longer you play it, the more you can see all those glaring issues.
I still play it, but I also hate it. It's such a shame, if PIG would invest just a little bit of man hours into it, it could be so, so, so much better.

Do you guys use tank controls, or the modernised FPS controls in MW5? I feel like the FPS controls are OP.

>>715617273
I enjoy tank controls, but FPS controls are canonically correct. Mechs should also be able to crouch, etc.

>>715617125
Also, to expand on this: Imo, ballistics having a proper range and destructive payload would balance quite nicely with lasers being pinpoint with basically no travel time.

>>715616753
For Answer looks to be playable. I'm sure the others will come along.

>>715610190
Never. The only MechWarrior games zoomers could tolerate now is MechAssault. I wish they would remaster MechAssault because I love that fucking game.
>Nice mech you got there, be a shame if I invisible Kit Fox'd the shit out of it

>>715617347
>FPS controls are canonically correct
This isn't Avatar, where the mechs read inputs from your limbs and translate them to the mech's limbs. Your legs in a battlemech are against peddles, like in a helicopter. You have a throttle. Tank controls fit the mech piloting aspect of the game better.

>>715617746
What does "ingame" mean?

>>715617848
>what is neurohelmet
Anon, as far as Battletech is concerned, mechs are a lot more agile than you think, and good pilots are able to use even the heaviest assault with some dexterity.

>>715617273
I wish there was a middleground. I'm fine with the speed ramp up and leg turning, but I should be able to sidestep at low speeds at the least. Maybe a short hop or clambering with free hands, I'm sick of getting stuck on rocks.
>>715617848
The neurohelm got described repeatedly as letting you control the mech like your own body, doing completely human looking movements but slower and a little more ungainly. It's debatable if that's only earlier, more advanced neurohelms though. And there's definitely been writers who wanted to retcon that entirely.
Battlemechs are definitely not supposed to have strict tank controls with arms stuck like a stroke patient. Frankly, battletech was always a bit more anime than some people wanted.

>>715618345
>It's debatable if that's only earlier, more advanced neurohelms though.
It'd still apply to Clan tech since their whole deal when they were first introduced is that they actually preserved and improved on Star League tech while the Inner Sphere was busy bombing itself back a millennium.

>>715608409
FPBP. Too many weeb trannies

>>715618192
>>715618345
The stuff you can do in FPS mode invalidates much of the stats of battlemechs. There's practically no inertia. Torso rotation speed and rotation radius doesn't matter. Your legs will instantly swap from walking left to walking right and it just looks wrong in 3rd person mode. I do wish there was some middle ground.

>>715618345
>I'm sick of getting stuck on rocks.
That's a PGI problem, since mechs in their games actually do not walk around, but hover and the ability of that hovering to deal with obstacles is directly tied to your speed. So, you get stuck to the rock, even though your (slow) mech is clearly putting it's legs/feet up.

>>715618686
>I do wish there was some middle ground.
You and me both. I personally think that FPS controls with proper feedback and inertia would be the best. I.e., you can do all the side-walking/side-stepping, but there is still torso speed/radius to be reckoned with, along with full movement inertia based on your mech's weight.

I can't believe we are getting Clan expansion for MW5: Mercs. Have to wait for weeks to get my mods fixed again

>>715608187 (OP)
the new designs and all their little laserboxes suck fucking ass. The original MWO designs were at least somewhat tolerable (but I still prefer MW3 or earlier) but they completely fucked even that up. Everything is too square

>>715619052
>the new designs and all their little laserboxes suck fucking ass.
What new designs? The Clans models are mostly just good ol mwo models.

>>715617080
Reminds me I have to play the Operation: Ascalon DLC. He's making a sequel. Would be cool if he gave it more polish on the animations and hired a sound designer but Idk if he made enough money for that, game is very niche.

>>715619049
>It's real
Man that game is freaking huge. Like, the MC really gets around. I imagine a speed run of all the special missions in the game would be like 36 hours.

>>715619118
I'm talking about the MWO models, PGI. The housing for the lasers/autocannons were all homogenized in order to make them easier to swap on various models/variants. Wasn't an issue early on but at some point they started doing whatever the fuck this is

>>715619528
>Wasn't an issue early on
The last time it was different was like a decade ago. Are you a time traveler, anon?

>>715617949
>>715619880

>>715611468
>feel the weight and power of your mech in PvP and Co-op scenarios
no thanks

>>715619049
I hope those Clan mechs end up better looking and functioning than the ones we have modded now.

If you were to make a mech game that had destructible components like focusing firing on an enemy mechs legs would cripple it or shooting its arms off, how would you handle the player mech getting crippled as well so that it wouldnt become annoying to play? Do you just have a mechanic that lets you repair your components? Just have a new mech dispatch when your current one is unusable?

I've enjoyed the TBS style Front Mission games, and havent really played any FPS style mech games that had destructible components, so im wondering if other games have handled that.

>>715619952
>>715619880
I see. Thanks.

>>715620137
>mech game that had destructible components like focusing firing on an enemy mechs legs would cripple it or shooting its arms off, how would you handle the player mech getting crippled as well
You know this is exactly what MechWarrior is, right? The answer is you just deal with it. The button assigned to firing your left arm's weapons stops working when your left arm is destroyed.

So will they drop MW5 Clans support after this?

>>715620383
>after
>implying

>>715620383
>sell the same mech models for the fifth time
Peak PGI.

>>715609019
Puro sexo

>>715620137
It's sort of a double edged sword. It's fun when you blow an enemies main gun off. It's not typically fun if it happens to you. Sometimes you're one minute in and your lancemate goes "boo hoo hoo! I've been hit!" and you turn around and he somehow already lost his fucking erppc like a kid who dropped his toy and can't find it.

A lot of non-mechwarrior games that tinker it with it are less successful because it's less involved and part of the overall mechanics. There's an armored core game with part damage and it's apparently just "if they hit the important bits, restart the mission".

>>715620137
>>715611468 does it well, imo. If you get damaged, you can repair the damaged part (but you can't replace a destroyed one). The repair is however limited, and takes a forever, so you are an easy prey during it.

What's /v/'s opinion on the original Armored Core games?

>>715621183
Love them. I played almost all of them, started with Master of Arena on the PSX. Completly different from Mechwarrior tho.

>>715608559
>I want a simple way in with no handholding
Mechwarrior 2, I remember on myabandonware the port there requires you to like use -t .iso or some shit after mounting the .cue so you likely might want some other kinda re-release or some pirated pack of them
>I want to be eased in
Get Mechwarrior 5, it's on GamePass so just shell out the $5 or some shit for 3 months and you'll have it plus all the major DLC necessary, it's a great way to get in because it gives you a visual look at the Inner Sphere via map as well as a news timeline.
Don't start in 3015 unless you want the game to be VERY same-y. Unless you travel long-distance frequently time doesn't pass very quickly so you'll spend all your time up until the late-3030's fighting the same shit.
>I just want stupid fun
Play Mechwarrior Online once you get your feet wet, you'll know you are good enough at Mechwarrior when you can spectate someone for two seconds and figure out how to reverse-engineer their loadout.
Also, don't play Mechwarrior Online. It's garbage bullshit filled with retarded boomers who have no issue being nickel-and-dimed and I hate them all. The only reason people play is because they have old accounts with tons of shit unlocked.

>>715609918
Worth mentioning that Heavy Gear is abandonware meaning even YOU (the person reading this) can play it for FREE right NOW without buying it from GOG or some other ancient artifact reseller

>>715621183
They can be a bit janky like most games that old but are definitely some of the better mecha games out there.

>>715619626
I've hated it since then, so maybe

>>715621435
The worst part about MWO "community" are the mech dads. I don't remember any other video game having fans this incredibly sycophantic. Redditors wish they could achieve the levels of toxic positivity as your average mech dad. Stupid fucks not only enable all PGI faggotry, they actively support it - including the dumbest shit that literally kills the game.

>>715621183
What I find funny is that the 100 ton assault mechs from Mechwarrior like Atlas are the same height as the classic AC's both are around 15-17 meters in height. Crazy disparity in the in-universe tech.

>>715621183
I really like the PS1 games. The PS2 games didn't do much for me, but then I swing back in again in the HD era. Really worth playing the first game for all the weird missions it has. Lot of mazes though. Hate mazes.
>>715621387
I think there's a lot of shared inspiration. They've both got similar concepts but different approaches to things like overheating, debt, allegiance building, ammunition, energy/physical/missile type split, etc. Mechwarrior got the better armor and AC got the better thrusters.

>>715621905
the eternal boomer strikes again. Proof that whaling isn't just reserved for ronery zoomers rolling gacha FOMOs all day

>>715619049
>>715620383
no clue why they waited this long to add clan shit into this. was easily the most requested thing i saw years ago already

>>715621658
>Heavy Gear is abandonware
If it is on GOG it means it has a right holder that extended the IP rights.

>>715608187 (OP)
>playing in third person
FAGGOT!

>>715622537
heavy gear isn't on gog tho

>>715622115
I've played a few weeks ago after a long pause, and it is still the same. Matchmaking is just as bad as always, so it pits top 20 all-stars (including a premade streamer lance, which is another kind of cancer) against nonames with average 0.4 k/d. Naturally, the nonames get absolutely rolled over in 12:1 match, and then these fucking cretins start typing "le teamwork is op!" into the chat.
Nothing gets me more salty than this kind of retarded masturbatory flagellation.

>>715622101
Nah, 1st gen ACs are small. Their height is a little wonky because some props like cars make them look super small but they're under ten meters. 4 and 6 have the big lads and even they aren't so big. 17+ meters is really more of a gundam thing. Or a boss fight thing.

I wish there was a Muvluv game that was sort of like Armored core mixed with Helldivers mixed with hookers and coke

>>715613437
I like the Thunderbolt 5S
I like holding down the machine gun and srm button between laser pulses while pointing directly at the cockpit of the enemy mech
The feeling of instantly vaporizing locusts and fleas with the highlander's gauss cannon is a close second though

>>715613437
You're awesome anon. Never let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>715615476
>they add a bazillion meme game mechanics
huh, I didn't know mods add mechanics. I they just add more mechs and shit but don't change the gameplay in any capacity. any example of good ones?

How come none of the games remotely try to convey the tabletops boxart?

>>715623141
>Thunderbolt
Also a fantastic choice. Love the cockpit, too.

Reminder that the chassis of a battlemech doesnt matter, its all about the tonnage. All the fluff they give a battlemech is pointless since you can shove anything into any mech of the same weight and it will do the same thing.

>>715608187 (OP)
MY HOME PLANET

>>715623256
Besides the melee combat what part of this image do you feel is neglected

>>715623357
We left the realm of Mechwarrior 2, 30 years ago. Get with the times.

>>715621435
>The only reason people play is because they have old accounts with tons of shit unlocked.
Also because it has no competition. It's also why PIG murdered Living Legends.

Best mech? King Crab
Best Mobile Suit? The Z'gok
Best Mega Man boss? Crush Crawfish
Best Spongebob episode? Robot Krabs

>>715623460
The build rules say I can shove anything into a mech as long as it fits, and guess what. All mechs have the same amount of internal slots. So, I can turn any 30 tonner into a locust. I can turn any 100 tonner into an Atlas. The chassis is purely for show.

>>715623694
Based snib snab enjoyer

>>715608559
This anon >>715621435 is mostly right but MW5 goes on sale for $12 and the keys cost about just as much, buy it on steam so you can install mods and creamapi the DLC for free. MW5 vanilla isn't worth playing. You don't need to go full autism, just get basic YAML to unfuck the customisation and go from there, maybe whatever is the current best AI mod too

>>715623256
Sunken cost for a strict set of mechanics. It took them decades to add melee.
>>715623357
Nah, I like quirks.

>>715623785
This isn't /tg/ bro. Games ditched that long ago.

>>715613437
It's total bullshit but PPC-X Awesome was some of the most fun I've ever had in MW5

>>715623381
Its the vibe. Melee combat is the big one. But I want the games to try a tad harder. I want to be ambushed, I want the feeling of getting surrounded and overcoming it with raw skill. I want to stomp in the heads of downed mechs. The mech warrior games can be fun, but it doesn't ever give a sense you're piloting a badass mech.

>>715624252
It's not being helped by the fact that PGI seems physically unable to get the scale of both mechs and the environment right.

>>715624252
hard disagree, asking for better presentation with a niche dead series like this is asking for even further dumbing down slopification

>>715621905
>I don't remember any other video game having fans this incredibly sycophantic
STAR
CITIZEN

>>715621905
All niche games have such fans.

>>715623381
>>715624252
Install yaml for MW5, set all hp to 50% for everything (canon setting), and speed to 125%, melee to 150% (or more!). Favor high damage short range weapons. Also do canon heights because its funny when fleas are proper tiny.

Suddenly the game is less about trying to waddle unpredictably over fields and firing off lasers for ages per enemy than it is blitzing around cover and jumping out and blowing someones arms off and then punching them to death. You still get all the crunchy mechanical stuff, you're just also much faster and immediately deadly.

>>715623357
Simply not true. Mechs actually have different levels of armor/speed/slots for their weight. One of the most based things you can do in MW5 Clans is take a Jenner, swap out its oversized engine for the lightest possible engine, and then load up the hardpoints with way stronger weapons and armor than any 35 ton mech has a right to have. I had Jenners with more armor and fire-power than 50 ton mechs.

>>715624463
It doesn't need to be slop, but presentarion is the foundation upon which gameplay is built from. Just because they might mess it up doesn't mean they shouldn't try.
>>715625126
Thanks, will try

>>715614332
>get food whenever you peck at target
>they out you in another box
>you heard a weird sound but you eventually see a target
>you peck at target to get food
>only get rewarded with dead

>>715625704
It was cancelled long before any real use.

>>715625131
>Jenner
baste

>>715625702
>presentarion is the foundation upon which gameplay is built from.

>>715625131
You didnt read what I posted at all. Only the tonnage matters. If you take two different mechs of the same weight, and give them the same loadout, they will do the same thing. A jenner doesnt have +1 speed while another mech of the same tonnage has +1 to hit, native to their frame. They will have the same exact stats.
>BUT THE QUIRKS!
Modifiers that barely do anything that any mech can have. In conclusion, any to mechs of the same tonnage will do the same thing if you give them the same loadout. No exceptions.

>>715626758
>Modifiers that barely do anything
My mech is intrinsically different to your mech no matter how much you try to transition it. You will never have those quirks, you will never make it the same mech, only a shallow imitation.

>>715615025
i replayed gen 4 and 5 recently and they all work great on rpcs3. might need to get the repack from the discord for 5th gen though since for some reason the games are prone to crashing without it. but they are all perfectly playable from start to finish

>>715626758
No, I did read you right. You're just repeating yourself because you didn't read what I said.

>>715626758
quit being a reductive retard, also you're stupid if you're just gonna gloss over mechs having arms compared to those that don't

>>715626641
Yes frogposter. It's true. Most all games are created with the intention of capturing a vibe. Mech Warrior does too, only It's trying to emulate "tanks with legs", and it does everything in its means to cater the gameplay to that concept. How hard is that to understand?

>>715627153
>I can swap out parts of my jenner to make it OP for its weight!
Yeah, I can do the same thing with any mech of the same weight.

>>715627287
>Arms
Everyone uses kicks for melee, it's just better than punching things.
>OH, BUT I CAN PICK STUFF UP!
Pointless.

Is mechwarrior doomed to forever be shovelware?

>>715627409
>shovelware
no
>being made by shitty devs
possibly

>>715623021
I don't know muvluv but dropping reinforcement mechas from orbit would be pretty cool.

I hate japanese mecha
They fight like dbz characters.
Bring back battletech.

>>715627394
>Everyone uses kicks for melee
>miss
>fall over
>try to get up
>fall over
>die
Melee weapon>Punching if your tonnage is high enough to pop heads>kicking>punching without the OHKO potential

>>715621183
Genuinely love them and consider them top tier mecha

>>715627928
I like the Japanese take on serious military machine mechas like old Armored Core, Front Mission and Gungriffon.

Gundam and such is just silly.

>>715627928
Japanese Mecha can be rad, but only when it's done by a massive westaboo / military autist
Front Mission and Armored Trooper Votoms are peak mecha from the east.

Man that mech warrior game for Xbox where you could jump out of your mech and run around as a little dude in a power suit was the best mech warrior experience I ever had.

>The online somehow wasn't dead even though you had to pay for xbox live
>Everybody was really chill
>Game was actually fun

Too bad MWO is garbage and people are garbage nowadays.

>>715611323
Megamek and MekHQ are fun/autistic as shit.

>>715619049
I like how THIS is how I found out about the upcoming DLC.

>>715627928
Battletech is literally just bootlegged anime mechs. They only stopped using actual macross and dougram art because it turned into a legal quagmire. For the first ten years of its existence it was basically an anime fangame.

How about GBO2 but Mechwarrior.
Battle Operation is itself weird for a Gundam game that it feels clunky and slow, which may be better for a Mechwarrior game.

>>715608187 (OP)
GOLIATH ONLINE
COMM-LINK ONLINE
CHANNEL OPEN
SYSTEMS FUNCTIONAL

TARGET DESIGNATED

I am starting a business to sell bottles of Clanner Elemental boobsweat. First I need some Elementals.
Gentlemen, who dares join me in this venture?
I'll need your Callsign and Mech for the application.

>>715627959
why do I feel such an inherent hatred for the Il khan era? I can't really put it into words, but I have this instinctive reaction to it.

>>715629487
Haven't followed much of it. Really hated the Pube Lick and was happy to see it die. The lore has been retarded since forever. I hope they bring the Blakists back and maybe add more pirate factions.

>>715627959
I really like this picture, but:
>belt-fed PPC
will always bug me

>>715608187 (OP)
Fake mech game. Glorified tank simulator wearing the skin of Macross.

"Clanners could be here" he thought "I've never been in this system before. There could be CLANNERS anywhere" the cold wind felt good against his bare chest "I HATE CLANNERS" he thought. Old guitar riffs reverbated his entire mech, making it pulsate even as Qwikstim circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of invaders from systems far away. "With a Marauder, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.

>>715614332
So
did the pigeon get any food for leading the bomb successfully into the ship?

>>715631132
laughed irl, thanks anon.

>>715631198
The pigeon never went on any mission. >>715625978

>>715625978
How would you know? You can't really check out what was inside the bombs after they went boom.
For example how can you know they're not using them again for the bunker busters that were dropped in Iran? You're going to look into tons of rubble for bird DNA, if everything isn't incinerated anyway?

Yeah. Exactly.
The military is using birds as bombs. Same for drones. You ever saw a drone operator in real life? No you didn't. You didn't because they don't exist.

>>715631628
>You ever saw a drone operator in real life
I did.
He had a pet crow.
You might be onto something.

>>715631730
>crow
>crow is often mistaken with ravens
>raven is the title for a mercenary class of core operators in AC, they're opportunistic and seeking the highest bidders

>they can live fucking long and hold a grudge towards humans

It's so over everything is connected. It wouldn't be too far fetched to entertain the idea that this thread was made by birds to rub it in and collect data

>>715632225
no we didnt

>>715632225
top lel

>>715616745
I played this for the first time a handful of years back and was pretty disappointed. Game cover was kino and holographic. Had the cool old blue ps2 discs. Felt like I was in for a good time. Game felt like an early iPhone or I touch game. Felt like it needed another 6 months in the oven. had a few decent ideas but the gameplay wasnt fun. I prefer the Xbox sequel but honestly even that game wasnt great and I would only rank it a point or two above that titles. one of these had a cool diorama system though where you could admire and look at the cool designs which I liked a lot but that wasn’t the game though. Just felt too low budget like it was made by 1 guy who hadn’t made a game before.

>>715608187 (OP)
in MW4 I once put all ERPPCs into my mech(don't remember which), and it would insta overheat with 1 volley, but it also one shot anything, it was fun(ny)

>>715619528
I honestly dislike the majority of the MWO models I’ve seen, they all look like downgrades somehow from MW4. they bayformersed everything and there is just too much pointless shit on all the mechs and it makes them look ugly. I feel like they could have made a compromise and only gone half way or something and it would have been fine.

>>715633809
>do this in MW3
>fucking explode

got me good the first time, lol

>>715628230
My favorite armored core designs are probably gen 2 and gen 3. Enough detail to not look boring or like a 90s arcade game, but enough to make something that looks cool. 4 jumped the shark despite having some cool stuff and feels like another franchise. Never played 5 and everything in 6 looks ugly IMO.


Front mission had the right idea making them just look like tanks that walk. Hence the name wanzers.

Too many games try to wow you by sticking pointless crap everywhere just seems like a design aesthetic inspired by gacha games or something to wow you with overly complicated flashy designs to compensate for lacking areas of gameplay.


favorite mechwarrior era is probably mechwarrior 3/4 for that balance of realism.


halo isnt a mech series but it has the same problem where everything after halo 3 crams every inch with pointless detail and just looks ugly. Seems like the overall trend with everything since the 2010s that more is always better to consoomers.

>>715629480
MILFMAN here I’ll back you up in my customized hatchetman. I hope you don’t mind but I customized my vibro axe to look like a big dildo.

>>715611645
>see cool robot
>look into game more
>some stupid monkeys paw bullshit that puts me off every time
>>racing game
>>battle royale
>>eternal early access
>>etc.

I just want more Front Mission man. When the fuck is Kriegsfront Tactics gonna come out...

>>715635347
Have you considered cubix?

>>715623694

for me? it's the bushwacker

>>715635959
>pubeman here I’ve joined your lance my bushwhacker will clear a path for you

Bushwhacker is based

Rotaries are the best, prove me wrong.

>>715608187 (OP)
For me it's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSBY4KvRZp8

>>715635664
huh?
also expanding on my monkeys paw issues
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3446920/Mecharashi/
>see this
>holy fucking shit its literally just front mission but HD, this is what I've been waiting for
>F2P gacha
FUCK

What are the recommended mods for MW5?

any atypical games?
i love solatorobo/tail concerto, bumpy trot, rad, zoe, for doing things differently
even titanfall has a pretty rare mix of fps+robots
i just want something that doesn't feel like i've played it before

>>715636205
Has you considered playing Cubix on gMecube? It’s probably the best mech game I’ve experienced. It’s like they combined mechwarrior mercenaries front mission and gundam zeonic front. I would go as far as to say it Zone if the Enders 2 could have lifted ideas from it as well.

Why is there no Combat Mission: Battletech?

>>715636837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lazo-rXLExE
This thing?
Or are you misremembering the title? 'cause this just looks like a poverty shovelware JRPG.

>>715637213
Yes that’s the game sounds like you got filtered by cubix

>>715637484
Sorry anon, I'm not sure what you're trying to do here, but that's not my jam.
More power to you though if its your childhood favourite or whatever.

>>715638025
I’ve never played it personally

>>715612673
>Daemon Tools
the fuck you doing nigga? iso mounting is built into windows, and wincdemu for everything else. DT has been aids for a long time.

OnTopicPart:
MegMek

>>715638294
Then why bring it up? I'm a little confused.

>>715608187 (OP)
Excellent

>>715612673
>Daemon Tools
Wow, I don't even know how many years it's been since I even heard it at all. What a trip down memory lane you've just triggered. Thanks for that.
In any case, unless you're using Win 7 and prior versions you no longer need to use that program. Win10+ has built in mount tools.

>>715636205
wasn't this actually called front mission something before and they had to change the name because it didn't work out or was that another game?

>>715639763
yeah it was Front Mission: Borderscape

>>715639763
Yeah, I think the story was something like
>Square Enix partners with some company to make a new Front Mission game
>project falls through and is cancelled
>company takes assets/code from cancelled project and re-uses them in their own title
>gets sued by Square for it

I wish we would get a junkyard aesthetic mecha game like ac5 again. Its just way too comfy

>>715635347
mechabreak would be cool if it was PvE. I tire of tryhard arena games.

>>715633809
>>715634454
You could do that in MWO, too. 12 (?) ERPPCs on Direwolf, nicknamed Direstar, because you fired one volley and then got meltdown. Instakill everyone, though.

>>715636173
>not Stuttershark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBgHKp6L7Nk

>>715627928
>0079/08 MS Team/War in the Pocket
>SDF Macross
>Dougram
>VOTOMs
>Megas XLR
>Patlabor
>Megas XLR
>Gasaraki
>Blue Gender
>Vision of Escaflowne
There, watch all of those before being a bitter faggot.

FIRST THOUGHT // GIVER OF WILL KNOWS ALL

HURT // MAIM // KILL

ACKNOWLEDGE // SUBMIT

>>715644552
Fuck I forgot Big O

>>715644578
ALL THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY
TOWERING OVER ME

>>715644552
I mean this from the bottom of my heart. Half of these are utter dogshit and dont deserve anybody's time

>>715608650
Mechwarrior 2 works on modern windows without dosbox thanks to a very autistic pajeet at Vogons.

>>715608187 (OP)
I love MW series but I've never been able to play TT BT
I got these guys painted up

>>715611405
Someone needs to hack and port the japanese Sharp X60000 release with a english patch, is literally DOS mech 1 with better visuals, gameplay and cutscenes.

>>715645536
Use flech sheets.

>>715615350
Peak head capping zombie mech.
No ammo for you enemy to hit with a lucky crit.
Can blast anything far away with a triple ppc bukkake and if something gets close just kick them.

>>715612673
Or you can follow the new guide that fixed the fucking game on modern machines and runs in HD, until the unity source port is done
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechwarrior/comments/1g8sex0/mechwarrior_3_install_guide/?show=original
also the patch there is needed since internal clocking is royally fucked.
As for the unity Sourceport project
https://unmech3.org/Portal/ it works and it has some extra stuff like working multiplayer

>>715613437
I will never forgive Pennis the menace Dennis for ruining MWO weapon models and maps

>>715645536
Megamek

>>715622453
Because we are getting a 2Mercs remake with this one after we spot the clans and go all the way til tukkayid.

>>715609019

>>715644383
I did something similar with a the marauder II-4H with a accidental alpha strike.
I killed the poor griffin and the kitfox in front of me but also blew myself up from the heat.

>>715608187 (OP)
they had some kino opening cinematics

timberwolf is cool

>>715644578
KILL >>>CHILDREN<<<
I like how utterly sociopathic the cybrids are
>>715645012
For me its https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbCycyZZ9us
More mech games could have used Industrial/EBM over orchestral

>>715643869
They look like they're embracing for a hug.

>>715646330
>I will never forgive Pennis the menace Dennis for ruining MWO weapon models and maps
based

>>715609918
Heavy Gear 2 would be so kino if only it didn't fucking crash every time you finish a mission or having to rely too much on the heavy guided mortar.

>>715618686
>I do wish there was some middle ground.
They could have their cake and eat it by doing both. Heavy Gear would let you bind both torso turning and strafing. Though HG2 won't let you bind body turning to the mouse, just torso, unless you wanted to emulate a joystick with the mouse. Still both tank controls and fps controls are viable.

>>715648451
yeah, the tabletop art and models still follows flyingdebris art as the new guy does it too, only dennis was the fag who ruined mw gun models out of spite

>>715648668
Yeah HG2 can be tempermental on windows. I almost got the linux version to work and its better in terms of stability but not enough autists are supporting old ass loki linux games. Most got source ports that fix the issues like Descent 3 but the best I can do for Heavy Gear 2 is sdl12-compat.

>>715648337
>Nine Inch Nails writes a lasertag arena soundtrack

intredasting indeed

>>715647891
>Operator pulls up footage with an Assault mech just to scare you being stuck with a Bushwacker
MW3 had great briefings.

Why do the clans have such massive fucking plot armor? They're fucking space hobos for much of their existence.

>>715650106
High tech, I guess the inner sphere went full retard and can't even manufacture the damn things anymore.

>>715650207
Succession Wars 1 and 2 happened

>>715620137
Losing weapons / components can make Mechwarrior 5 mercs annoying Even if you do pick up a decent weapon the AI isn't so retarded that it doesn't know to take it out. You end up having to constantly hide it and shield it, and your dumbass crew don't give a fuck about getting their mechs trashed. You end up having to stockpile the good shit every chance you get, true to lore I suppose but still annoying.

Clans was cool for a story driven game. And to play clan invasion shit. I expected turtle bay to be more graphic though.

>>715650549
Japan loved clans, remember that.

>>715650658
wait really? kek

>>715650106
>>715650207
superior mongol Khanate warrior culture

>>715650739
Yeah, mech 5 clans was the first mw game in years with proper Japanese location and subs

>>715612439
When you find out that much of 0083's staff also worked on Votoms OVAs. It's probably most obvious in this episode.

>>715651907
>that pile diver
This just reminds me how much it is pure suffering that I can't melee shit in the MechWarrior games.

>>715652036
you can in mech 5 and battletech

>>715650106
Writers are shit

>>715621183
Fantastic, I think first gen has better aerial movement and responsiveness than 6.

>>715652139
Does MW5 feature the Hatchetman? Would be fun to go around chopping shit in half.

>>715652376
yes there are melee weapons added too.

>>715620137
Why not just make resupply areas where you can resupply, repair, and replace mechs?

>>715652483
Guess I need to finally play the game. How shit is vanilla? Are mods going to be a necessity?

>>715608559
MW4, mainly because getting any of the earlier games to run on modern operating systems is a pure fucking nightmare

>>715620137
I think MW3 handled it well. Basically you had a mobile base for field repairs. You can blow off a clanners legs and perma-disable him but he can do the same to you. In order to not get completely raped by a Daishi you can use the mobile field base to patch up your mech.

>>715652869
>Are mods going to be a necessity?
Yes.

>>715653185
Can I be spoon-fed what to use? I don't want to play the nexus mods manager game like I would with a Bethesda title.

>>715609813
Here's one you don't hear too often: Battle Engine Aquila.
It's like playing a hero unit in a larger RTS. You aren't invincible but you're strong enough to effect the overall battlefield and shift things to your side's advantage. The cutscenes are some of the worst I've ever seen and the story is pure "meh", but the gameplay is solid and requires a bit of thinking instead of pure action.

>>715653406
I would say first 10 mods from the Most Endorsed on the Nexus are a pretty solid choice.

>>715652923
I got mw3 to run on w11. The hardest part is making sure you have the correct ISO and set up DGvoodoo correctly. The music was a bitch though, same with ensuring the framerate is limited b/c physics are tied to it.

>>715623205
Battletech Advanced is the one I run. Rougetech is pretty massive too, but they're slightly different flavors of autism and I prefer BTA.
Both of them totally overhaul weapon balance, evasions systems, mech construction, pilot and mech perks, ect. The map is also much bigger and there are more factions to fight and salvage from, though is aspect is still pretty shallow since in battle you're still limited to the same few premade bioms, just with new flavor text to account for the lore.

bumpe

>>715620137
Being able to deploy more mechs and not forcing the player to play a specific mech pilot (no hero protag character that ends in a game over if they die) would help alleviate the frustration of a mech being damaged.
That way players will be rewarded for collecting more mechs and also allow them to try different types.
Allow everything the player has had blown off to be salvageable as long as they win their main objective so that it encourages them to not just save scum and finish the mission.
Mechs being damaged should be expensive to repair so as to punish poor performance but still allow players to continue with their favorite mechs. This could also be combined with a withdraw/deployment system with new mechs so as to cut down on repair costs for a mech that is clearly going to be a liability.
MW4 mercs had a good system of mission deployments costing money with heavier mechs costing more than lighter mechs. This can be combined with the redeployment system to have the player make a choice of continuing with a damaged mech or spend money to deploy a new mech.
Forcing the player to only save at certain locations (Industrialized systems for example) would also cut down on save scumming but its a bit of a drastic option.

>>715653619
mention the gundam mod anon

>>715648271
>clannies

>>715656513
No.

>>715658186
would a locust be depicted as a loli?

>>715658443
i will https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWAT7-VUy80
Because that game needs a reverse engineering off dreamcast

Clans was good, Ghost Bear DLC was kino.

Fafnir, my beloved.

>>715659028
The hell will freeze over before PIG makes a UI that's not an abhorrent abortion.

>>715659360
What happened to the nice amber UI of the alpha?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUdUP4WobSU&t=198s

>>715659463
its a mod now

KGC is one of the sexiest designs ever

>>715659608
Sauce for said mod?

>>715659360
there are ui mods, i still prefer MWO because it is closer to the original mech 5 trailer from 14 years ago

>>715653534
HOLY SHIT
I am not the only person who played it!!! I fucking loved this game as a kid

Do i really need to buy mech 5 to download the mods

MW5M crab was great, I set my crb-27sl with 2x ppcx's and blew the fuck outta peoples backs. I liked the nsr but the massive cockpit that's dead center is a bullet magnet and that sucks. Tried the kgc as well but it suffers a similar problem while also being either pretty slow to have short ranged weps like ac-20s, or pretty low to be a sniper with dual gauss.
Any good options that fit this? I've poked around sarna but havn't really found anything. My main desire are these:
>Reverse jointed legs
>At least 2x ac-10 slots
The bullshark is cool but non-canon. Maybe if there's a timberwolf config with some ballistics instead?

>>715636681
YAML (pick and choose what submods you want)
Remove jumpship animation
The Known Universe
Coyotes mission pack
Mod options

>>715659672
try to get it from a better website
https://www.nexusmods.com/mechwarrior5mercenaries/mods/98

>>715660564
>Note: This mod is not compatible with the new version of MW5 that is released on Steam or any other platform, and there is no immediate plan for an update.
Fuck. Will it really not work with the Steam or GOG release?

>>715659845
Marauder II might be up your alley

>>715659463
That's also dogshit, but a lot better than the Clans.

>>715659613
All turns to crab.

>>715659690
MWO's UI is also retarded, but you can kinda sorta wrangle it with mods: https://www.nexusmods.com/mechwarrioronline/mods/74
It fixes that INCREDIBLE HUGELY RETARDED OVERRIDE.

>>715660636
i never used it but i guess it shouldnt be too fucky

Post minis, i need inspiration

>>715661175
>looks at his unpainted Hunchback
yeah me too

>>715661175
I would but they're not BT minis. I have Heavy Gear ones instead,

>>715661175
my very first lance

>>715661563
nice Assault mech lance Anon!

>>715661175
I did this on the 4th. Forgive my mistakes.

>>715661613
they were dirt cheap so i didnt feel bad to use them as a first try

>>715661637
white is such a bitch to get right. i fucked around with brainmatter beige and holy white but it just looks bad and i ended up scrapping the whole thing

>>715661952
I think nice looking white requires some extra technique like blending to get looking nice, or a step below pure white like a light grey. Also how the fuck do I wet blend?

>>715608187 (OP)
>first mech of MW3
>first mech of MW4M (in training mode)
Bushwacker my beloved <3

>>715662059
i like to use a wet pallette (a sponge with baking paper) and count the drops and to colortests on a empty base

>>715614564
>The Clan characters all talk weirdly.
They're Clanners
>Also the game feels easier because you have 4 friendly AI instead of 3
They're Clanners
> your clan mechs are broadly superior to Inner Sphere mechs.
They're Clanners.
Was this complaint meant to be ironic, or do you just not know anything about the lore? Cause the Clans are supposed to be a bunch of autistic weirdos with much more powerful technology. That is their whole thing.
The reason MW5 Mercs is better than Clans is because it has a career mode and you can do whatever you want so its not just the same game every time you play it. Clans is a decent story for a Mechwarrior game, but its not really worth playing more than once, maybe twice.

>>715643204
They need it to be PVP to encourage people to pay money. Less incentive to whale if there is no one to compete against.

>>715630616
Considering that's a Warhammer, it could just as easily be a belt feeding the SRM-6

>>715661287
go tartan

>>715662329
How many drops of thinner do you use on average? I have an army painter set and it can be annoying becuase the pigments all have various viscosity among them. I tried Vallejo paints but they keep having this horrible bubbling from water and paint mixing so my wet pallet is a no go.

>>715662571
That is how I interpret it. The belt doesn't look like its going into the PPC at all. Its going from the torso up to the SRM-6.

I need Bandai to work their gunpla magic on Battletech. I want Battletech model kits.

>>715662780
i use tap water as a thinner, usually two drops paint one drop water, but more times than not i need atleast 2 to 3 layers

>>715663120
Maybe another company like Max Factory could do it. I got a Max Factory Votoms Strike Dog kit and it's surpassed most Gunplas I've gotten.

>>715610190
Never and I hope it stays that way. Mechwarrior Online and 5 are flaming pieces of shit and I hope everyone at Piranha Games gets hit by a meteor small enough to only kill them.

>>715663409
I just know there is no hope on waiting for Chinese 3rd parties to make it. Battletech designs are like the exact opposite of what they tend to make. Not enough random spiky bits covering the whole thing.

>>715663727
I think its mostly just that non-asian companies have no interest in model kits. Thats why its all about the minis since that's the cultural norm.

>>715663120
JOYTOY should do some of the Battle Armour

>>715661952
For me, the hardest color is orange. It's why I cheat and use orange primer

>>715618651
>kvetches about weeb trannies when Battletech is literally overran by their kind
I never saw troons or lgbtshit in official published material of Gundam. Meanwhile your side gave rise to this.

https://prideanthology.itch.io/2023

>>715638841
>iso mounting is built into windows
Not into my own version since I tore out every service that was not essential and could be disabled. My old DT lite that I gutted works just fine for me.

>>715666417
so far i only used orange for cockpits but i can imagine the pain on larger surfaces

>>715663716
Retard.

>>715667665
>Finally get a satisfying shade of yellow/orange
>apply black wash
>irrevocably dirties it
>no amount of drybrushing seems to fix
Not a worse feeling. Except for accidentally grabbing the black paint instead of the wash.

how hard is tabletop BT to get into for a brainlet?

>>715668336
If you can't math, use flech sheets.

>>715668336
i started last month, its easy if you drift incremental into the autism, get the AGoAC box and fuck around, soon you will feel the need for weather and salvage and time of day. learn from my mistakes do not get Alpha Strike for the rules its not very fun

>>715668658
>learn from my mistakes do not get Alpha Strike for the rules its not very fun
whats wrong with it?

>>715659756
Anyone who can answer this

>>715668769
my main problem is that it isnt very deep, the mechs dont feel like mechs but rather like a mech component if that makes sense, also the positioning and firing feels like an after tought, neither impact nor meaningful. the only thing that i like is that you dont need a hexmap

>>715668958
which website

>>715669107
i think i remember hearing alpha strike was better for bigger games but im not sure how much.also whats wrong with hex maps? i've never played a tabletop game before but it sounds like it would keep stuff simple in regards to movement

>>715608187 (OP)
I love this sneaky little bastard.

>>715669304
its only better for bigger games because its faster (because as said its very simplified). there is nothing wrong with hexmaps only that you need them to use them, but you get atleast 2 to every bigger box. the one with the bridge you get in the AGoAC is really fun, a friend that introduced me to the game made me escort some tanks and 2 heli while he did some fucky shit with minefields and light mechs as opfor. it was the best 5 hours of tabletop gaming i ever had and convinced me to buy my own stuff

>>715669604
raven my beloved, i have 2 but i dont feel comfortable painting them because i want them to be perfect

>>715669304
Alpha strike is too simple. Even for large scale games. There isn't really even weapon profiles. I feel like Heavy Gear Blitz is better for a larger unit count skirmish game. But for someone that's new to tabletop games in general its fine.

I played Mechwarrior 2 when I was just a little kid. I loved that game, it was my first exposure to games that attempted to embrace simulation. After that, I never played anything in the series again. Some anons said that the new Mechwarriors no longer pretend to be simulators, so I never went back to the games in the series, not even to remember the past.

>>715671992
Why'd they get annihilated again?

>>715672076
the highheels stay on policy was their undoing since the IS is full of footfags

>>715672076
literally too retarded even by clanner standards

>>715667454
>I DEBLOOOTED my Windows of all the unnecessary things!
>guys you have to use Daemon Tools to make this work!
haha

do clanners even know what sex or pleasure is besides being retarded? i mean they are all test tube babies

>>715610240
It would probably be easier to remake MW2 and DLC from scratch. No compatibility issues to worry about, game is so simple that indie games today are often more complex. MW3 wouldn't be a very big step up.

>>715669887
I only play the video games, mostly Mercenaries. I like to hop in a Raven callsign Tardwrangler. Let my stupid ass AI teammates bumblefuck through the campaign in their assaults loaded for bear as I zip around in my coffin on chickenlegs just ruining the enemies day.
It's way more fun than running 100 tons of death any day.

For the love of everything, get this franchise the fuck away from Pirahnabytes. How do you make Ghost Bears seem more uptight than the Falcons or Jaguars?

>>715672639
man i never tought i would drop an battletech game but i just couldnt, even after setting up my fucking hotas and tripple display setup. and after looking up what missed i didnt even feel bad

>>715672639
It's absolute dogshit. Endless waves of the same enemy lances/stars over and fucking over and FUCKING OVER

>>715672985
Kek. I'm glad I didn't fall for it if when even Hota's fags couldn't stomach it

>>715672318
Not the same anon.I used Daemon Tools because I was a Win7 fag before jumping to Linux Mint.

>>715667786
Nigger.

>>715669887
Get a third one, made of metal. Metal is the easiest to strip minis off of.

>>715674636
next month, i literally just spend $120 on the total warfare book

>>715671992

>>715674818
120 bucks for a fucking book?

>>715669172
Obviously do i need to buy mech 5 on steam just for the workshop mods

>>715675410
do you know what i never understood about the clanners? they are test tube babies that come from the same genepool, why do they all look different? i mean i get you want some genetic differences to get some kind of immunity to viruses and such but that doesnt mean you need vastly different appearances

>>715669604
How do you learn to love lights?

Still the best.

>>715676337
Ah, so that's what happened to Clan Navy Seal

>>715675859
Each individual is a mix of different genemothers and genefathers from previous generations of warriors who earned a bloodname, the exact combinations being at the whims of the scientists assigned to the job at the time. These roles can be filled by either a male or female, the distinction being whether the genes are being used for the artificially crafted egg or the sperm. Like natural eggs and sperm there will be differences between each batch, rest of it can be chalked up to the circumstances of the upbringing. However for the sake of storytelling it can be awkward if too many people end up looking the same and so every named character is unique for narrative convenience. Give it a big shrug.

>>715627104
>gen 4 and 5
What's that?

>>715677016
>Gen 4
AC4 and For Answer
>Gen 5
ACV and Verdict Day.

>>715677307
Naruhodo.

>>715633738
Gungriffon Blaze seemed a bit barebones to me. I didn't know there was a Gungriffon game for the xbox. I'll have to check that out.

>>715634842
I like gen 1 too. Conceptually them being the first generation of armored cores is fun and the designs are still good even if very blocky. Some of the cg renders are beautiful.

I think gen 4 is where the designs started get out of hand with many of them being too much.

>>715636794
Warframe has a couple of Necramechs that are small mechas you can call down and hop into on certain types of missions. Kind of a half-baked concept as they added them in one update and never added any more but still fun for a bit. The best thing about them is that they get to use Archguns which are these big ass guns the Warframes can't normally* use. Takes a lot of playing to unlock the Necramechs though. Warframe is a huge time investment. Can't really recommend it as a game and I've played hundreds of hours.

>>715661360
Post them

>>715677651
This is my Kodiak mini that I got. I have some others in my army but I don't think they came out nearly as well.

>>715634842
>Seems like the overall trend with everything since the 2010s that more is always better to consoomers.
This was my biggest complaint with modern mecha designs. They get greebled up to hell and back and I've seen it done countless times
>MWO
>Gundam Requiem
>Heavy Gear Assault
>ACV
Something about the limitations of old games meant the mechs could stay boxy and simple. Even today I find Earthsiege 2 very pleasing to the eyes, along with Front Mission 3.

>>715677816
That looks cool

>>715609813
Chrome Hounds!

>>715678065
Thanks, I do feel I could do better. The washes come out kinda weird on the basecoats over the metallic paints. Also I need to work on my edge highlighting skills, this mini was done rather simply. But it's very much tabletop ready.

>>715677989
>Earthsiege
I'm still mad that they killed the franchise with Starsiege and that tribes bullshit

>>715677573
I played a bunch of gungriffon allied strike. It's good when its good, but stupid ai and not many missions, some of which are pretty crap, really hurt it.
>>715634842
>>715677989
It's so fucking funny that this design trend hit super robots too. I really think less is more.

>>715678568
I like Starsiege desu, probably more than Earthsiege if I'm being honest. But I could agree about Tribes. Might have been nice for Dynamixs to just not call it a metaltech game.

>>715633809
i did that with novacat. there was also a thing where the weapon projectiles would shoot from different nodes on the model and depending on the order it would change what node was used. i would fiddle with the 3 different kinds of pulse lasers on the novacats triple cannon arm until all 3 were shooting from the same node. the game would blend the laser sprites together to make a white beam.

>fast enough and has the jump jets to get the angles it needs
>dumps 12 SRMs wherever you need them
He's so based, one of my favorite TR 3025 mech

what mechs are they pilot?

>>715681893
L to R
Jenner
Bushwacker
Orion
Highlander

>>715672487
True Born know about sex but have a complicated relationship with it. They find the notion of biological reproduction disgusting but acknowledge that it's a necessity for their lower casts. In one of the Jade Falcon books a female warrior was lamenting her breasts, and annoyed that clan scientists deemed them acceptable for woman on the chance that they wash out and produce a genetically superior freeborn offspring.
Otherwise both men and woman take the equivalent of long term birth control, and have sex strictly as a social function. There's a lot of power dynamics involved, and stereotypically, the act itself is treated as much as a competition as anything else they do.
There's also the 100% canon statutory rape between teenage sibcos and their adult instructors. In general an instructor has the right call one of their trainees to their tent for mandatory sex any time they're not actively training. While used as a perk of the otherwise undignified position of trainer, it is also used as a method of corrosion and even torment depending on the prelationship of the trainer and cadet.
That's all early lore stuff, and probably something never to be brought up again in canon, but Battletech doesn't decanonize early works; just ignore or recontextualize them.

>>715682216
So basically clanner society is fucked.

>>715682047
Damn I can feel that orion.

>Tried to get into Armored Core 1 and play the series from there
>Couldn't control the game worth a fuck even with reminds
Welp I'm boned

>>715675907
Jenner IIC in MWO is the easiest light I've ever used
run up, SRMsplat, run away

>>715682530
What rebinds? I usually do
>D-pad for strafe movement
>R2 Boost, L2, Fire weapons, R1 change weapon, L1 melee
>□ and X for left/right movement, △ and O for up/down
I prefer rocking my thumb back and forth for looking left and right rather than doing it directionally. But if you're using an emulator you could just bind the face buttons to the right stick.

>>715682530
Pretty sure there's mods that give it dual stick controls, even if you can't handle face buttons for camera.

>>715672318
>get triggered because I choose to use third party software whose actions I can control instead of a microcuck service that phones home every 20 seconds telling its owners and every CIA nigger that is tuned in what sort of an ISO I'm presently mounting
Do they pay you? Or are you doing it for free? Because it'd be really stupid if you were not being paid for this.

>>715682530
AC1 games have turbo retarded controls because it was one of the first PS1 games ever, and at the very start PS1 didnt have analog sticks. 3D vidya was also still new at the time, so everyone was trying to figure out what the best way to control everything was.

But they went super turbo retarded because PS2 came out, the the analog sticks became standard on all controllers, and they STILL didnt adopt the analog stick controls. They didnt until fucking NEXUS or Silent Line? LMAO.

I had gotten so used to the PS1 controls it didnt bother me, but even back then I saw all these other games using the analog sticks, and Armored Core was still stuck with the ancient PS1 controller layout.

>>715682752
It was like a year ago by now. I gave up for the time being but I'm tempted to try again. I've got some hyper advanced autism and play series of games from the beginning or I don't bother at all. SMT was particularly hell and I'm currently on FF12. Dragon's Quest also has me nervous as well as Ace Combat.
>>715682767
I'd probably end up doing something like that.

>>715682848
It was Nexus, the game just right before the turbo fuck hard Last Raven. I can't even imagine playing LR without analog sticks, don't know how PSP chads do it.

>>715682871
>I've got some hyper advanced autism and play series of games from the beginning
Ouch, you might actually be the kind of person to legitimately play MechWarrior 1 that isn't someone that grew up with it. I'm somewhat similar though depending on how truly ancient they are I probably couldn't do it. Any game that started on Commodore 64 or CGA DOS is a bit much for me.

>>715682898
The worst part was that the old ass PS1 controls became muscle memory to me, so even when they did add analog controls, It was hard for me to switch over.

>>715608187 (OP)
ATTENTION /V/! I AM STAR COLONEL NICOLAI MALTHUS OF THE JADE FALCON CLAN, A FULL TRINARY STANDS READY TO CONQUER YOUR BOARD, WHAT FORCES DARE OPPOSE US?

>>715682848
The thing is it became a bit like tank controls in mechwarrior. Much of the fanbase learned to like it. There's still people that insist that giving it dual stick is just pandering to casuals and it makes it no longer a "true mech series".

>>715683056
wat?

>>715682216
man, Way of the Clans takes me way back. I took that out of the library after playing Mechwarrior 2 on PS1 and 10 year old me was flabbergasted at the bit where Aidan gets depressed because after he starts fucking up his sister stops wanting to fuck him.

>>715622657
>Matchmaking is just as bad as always
it wasn't just me, then. I tried complaining about this and just got hit with angry tirades complaining about fortnite kids.

>>715683056
Clanners are in trouble if this guy gets a mech.

>>715675907
Play something other than a meta focused PvP deathmatch where the only real factors are guns and armor. Lights make excellent spotters and screening units in BTA. They're also good at getting optimal accuracy bonuses with C3 networks.
Plus it's fun to load up a Commando with clan SRMs, have it run behind a heavy, and shred through the armor, and crit its ammo.

this isnt MWO

>>715683310
i never played mwo

>>715683056
Jade Falcon? More like Jade Faggot. Tell me Nicolai. Do those tattoos go ALL the way down?

>>715608187 (OP)
I hate the nu-mechwarrior weapon hardpoint system desu
I just want to put 16 medium lasers on a hunchback but these faggots felt the need to ban every possible loadout except the single predetermined setup the mech came with as stock

>>715608520
Spheroid hands typed this

>>715683231
Not just clanners, Inner Sphere would hunt him too. Everyone would get fucked.

>>715683086
MechWarrior was always meant to be simulationist in gameplay. You press the W key for Image Enhancement and I for target inspection. Even if Battletech lore has mechs be just as agile but let's ignore that for now.
Armored Core is meant to be played like an action game. The tank controls were just the standard back then. It is bizarre that From kept the tank controls as standard until Nexus. I think even they knew on some level that not using the sticks was silly as AC2AA and onward used the left stick for movement.

>>715683231
He might actually like the clanners if he gave them a chance. Make him a bondsman in one of the more progressive groups like Wolf or Ghost Bear and he'd probably be running the place by the end of the decade.

>>715683363
Ohhh, little freebirth surat. When I shatter the meager forces of this board and take you as my bondsman, you will have the answer you so desire.

>>715683398
i'm pretty sure the HBK-4P is a vanilla addition to the games

>>715616567
I miss that game...

>>715683635
Is pretty easy to setup in Dosbox. That and Battledrome. I think ES2 is a tad better but I know it can also be somewhat stubborn outside of Win 3.1 and 95.

Clanners are all grown in tubes, and suffer from micropenis. Its why they're so angry all the time.

I've never played any of the games, but I do like the Hunchback.
>>715683056
So what exactly do the clanners do if they roll up on a non militarized world that's like a nature preserve or museum? Yes, we challenge you to to a reptile/amphibian catching challenge.

>>715683398
You can mod it out or add variants with different hardpoints but I kind of like it. Gives each mech a little more identity. Everything just becomes a laser boat otherwise. It'd probably be better if they just gave people a reason to have mixed parts though.
>>715683556
Simulation is a complex thing when you're talking about a fantasy design. I don't think simulating a mech necessarily means you need a big keyboard layout when the mechs might just be supposed to be easier to control than that, let alone that it's a console first franchise and they couldn't do it even if they tried, unless they went down the foolish path of "connect a playstation keyboard to play this game".

Gungriffon/High Macs is 100% a simulator but all that sort of stuff is largely optional or not necessary. You don't need five hundred keybinds to simulate something that might not need them.

>>715683928
They don't necessarily compete in combat, there was a world in Rasalhague space, I think, where Ghost Bears competed in sports instead.

>>715683928
Usually just assert themselves as in charge, set up a garrison, take whatever resources/bondsman they need, and move on.
If someone wants to make an initial challenge a sporting officer will often humor them, but clanners aren't above taking a free win and calling it a day.

I never got to play Mechwarrior. It was always out of my reach because I didn't have a very good PC for playing games in the early 2000's and by the time I got a gaming PC the series had faded away. I remember seeing pictures of setups people had who were super into it and they'd have big joysticks especially for this game.

>>715683928
They'll accept their surrender, or if they're one of the less psychopathic clans accept any challenge the defender offers. Pretty famously this happens when Ghost Bear rolls up on some planet with a piss tiny military, so they challenge Ghost Bear to an American football match. The clanners gladly agree and field a team of 8 foot tall gene bulked elementals. They win easily and occupy the planet with pretty minimal friction as far as clan occupations go.

>>715684154
who the fuck playes with mouse and stick? i get mouse and throttle, but still what the fuck

>>715684298
lol maybe a rare border break chad

Post favorite mechs. Mine is commando

>>715608559
mw2
mw2 mercs
mechcommander
mechwarrior 3
mechwarrior 4 vengeance and then mw4 mercs
HBS battletech
Good luck getting the old titles to run. With mechcommander at least you can dl the darkest hours mod from moddb which will include the full game and the expansion and stability fixes to allow it to run on newer OS

>>715683958
>Simulation is a complex thing when you're talking about a fantasy design.
Yeah there's good reasoning behind that. Mechs don't exist yet and might not ever. So we don't really know how one would even go about controlling one. MechWarrior 1 borrowed it's control setup from other simulationist games of it's time, even something more arcady like Battlezone had this turret/body setup in controls. The tank on legs stereotype isn't wrong when it comes to these games. Spaceship sim games like Freespace do something similar in throwing a sci-fi skin over a simulationist game of dogfighting planes a la Red Baron. Funny enough, with Mechs that control with neural helmets or GPTs or what have you, the games with the controller having macros for everything might actually be more accurate to how a mech would control IRL. Also
>unless they went down the foolish path of "connect a playstation keyboard to play this game.
Steel Battalion did ship with that big ass controller.

>>715684298
that was a random pic I found. here's another peripheral.

I remember there was a mech game on Xbox that had a comedically large control station thing too.

>>715684298
Desu, a stick in the left hand and mouse in right is honestly somewhat ideal controls for games like this. You get analog movement and precise turret control.

>>715608187 (OP)
Oh man, you have to try the Uma Musume game—it’s this insanely polished mobile title where you raise these horse girls (yes, that’s right) into elite racing idols. The training system is super strategic, and you form deep emotional bonds with your characters as you guide them to stardom—and like, the drama? It hits. Like that one arc where Oguri Cap’s career is on the line and she’s recovering from injury, and her whole comeback hinges on that one final race in the snow at Nakayama. I swear, the way she pushes through the pain and wins—I was in tears. The pacing, the inner monologues, even the gritty rivalry with Mihono Bourbon... top-tier writing.

>>715672639
I'm amazed I actually enjoyed the smoke jags campaign. It played out like a cheesy and predictable but still enjoyable young adult novel

>>715684610
Sir, this is Starcom.

>>715683839
What do clanner women suffer from?

>>715684481
Steel Battalion was the name, plays fantastically. That bigfuck gamepad rocks. It also has a lot of features that Mechwarrior should actually incorporate. The ability to lock and unlock your arms on targets, so you can free fire and sail shots as you will, or just lock on targets and maneuver to avoid incoming hits. It's got gyro mechanics where you have to watch your speed while you corner or risk toppling over like an idiot. It's also got a short hop type dodge function that lets you leap to the sides for emergency evasion at the expense of your speed.

>>715678204
Might work better if you skip the metallics and do some grayish color to look like metal and then apply the wash

Having painted some 40k in the past you really gotta have patience and a steady hand for those small details, I never could develop the skill to get good at it

Been itching to get a resin printer to print a bunch of stuff and paint them for fun but I don't have a space to put the printer in since its got all the fumes and such

>>715608409
>20-30fps dogshit framerate
>soul
pick one

>>715682530
>>715682871
There's some learning curve to get used to the controls but once you do it's really fun. Trying to rebind dual stick doesn't really work. I'd say pick default or was there multiple default choices I don't remember and try to get used to it. We've gotten so used to standardish control schemes that it's hard to suddenly hop into something so different.

>>715685280
I'm sorry your Voodoo 1 couldn't keep up with MW3s graphics.

>>715683556
AC doesn't have tank controls that's a different thing

>During the Clan Invasion some Inner Sphere commanders used the batchall to deceive the invaders by lying about the forces they planned to use in opposing the challenge, thereby causing heavier Clan casualties or even defeat in some cases.

Lol, stupid clanners.

>>715685529
What would you call turning with the dpad and strafing with the shoulder buttons then? I could see tank controls being a retronym.

>>715685710
This was a good way to catch an orbital bombardment for your dishonor. At least until Smoke Jaguar spilled it's spaghetti at Turtle Bay.

>>715685148
>or just lock on targets and maneuver to avoid incoming hits
I always liked this part about Armored Core. It makes sense for a mech to have weapon systems that can track targets. Even modern day tech is getting to a point where it should be possible to do.

>>715685934
True but I could see where a computer couldn't always have the right data for autotargeting. Hell if the computer could do everything then you wouldn't even need the pilot.

>>715686032
That's why the pilot is in control of weapon systems, firing and the targeting reticle. And of course maneuvering the mech. If the precision aiming can be left to the computer it allows the pilot to focus on other things.

>>715659191
fucking BASED

>>715685776
Tank controls is used to refer to games like old Resident Evil where pressing up moves the character forward based on where it is facing and you turn it like a tank to maneuver the rooms

When you think about it AC1 doesn't really control that different from Nexus they just remapped the controls to use the sticks and allow for inputs in range of 0-1 instead of a binary 0 or 1 that the buttons are capable of

>>715686346
Okay I kind of see what you mean. Combat on the Atari controlled the same way so maybe that's where the term comes from. AC and other games like Megaman Legends don't control dissimilarity, the camera was just able to keep up. It's just different these days with everything having strafing near the "walk forward and backwards" buttons.

>>715686683
>It's just different these days with everything having strafing near the "walk forward and backwards" buttons.
I suppose that is the biggest change and quite the significant one

FELLOW MECH WARRIORS

SERIOUS QUESTION FOR MY FELLOW MECH WARRIORS

would an MW unit beat Mecha Break Unit?

lets be real i assume that MB units are borderline heavy / assault in the MW category

but fr fr WOULD MW WIN?

my mecha friends are saying that they would beat MW units because of technology differences, but i said ballistics would rip apart MB units and laser tech is literally heat

what do you think?

>>715687172
Someone tried this with Gundam but Gundam didn't really have hardline stats to base this on. Ultimately power scaling is a useless exercise but maybe we could at least compare stats from both games. Only thing is I know nothing about Mecha Break.

>>715687172
Battlemechs while powerful would find themselves at a major disadvantage against any other Mech that has a higher mobility and/or more advanced technologies. MB has both.
Battletech isn't really made for death battle tism anyway.

>>715687851
>that has a higher mobility and/or more advanced technologies
Eh, I do think a Battlemech could easily step on a Gear, Wanzer, and Votoms AT. But even having something of equal class size like a Mobile Suit could pose a problem. A Zaku II could at least bitchslap a Commando.

>>715685054
Lack of good dick. Its why Clanner women lust after freeborn Inner Sphere men.

>>715675907
Play prepatched raven, slam an lrm20 on it with TAG, click left button and simply keep moving
PSHEW PSHEW PSHEW PWOOSH PWOOSH PSHEW PSHEW PWOOSH -ahahaha can't catch me aha- PWOOSH PSHEW PSHEW PWOOSH -ahaha faggots look at your AMS wasting away 1 rocket at a time haha noone can catch me- PSHEW PWOOSH

>>715688649
>ai slop
disgusting

>>715691106
Is that why it just looks like a bunch of images kitbashed together?

>>715608559
play mechassault for the xbox

>>715691161
yeah whoever made it generated a bunch of images and mashed them up to make a game prototype from what I remember

it's really easy to tell that the cockpit has been generated