Incels shouldn't be developing games.

>>715620335 (OP)
Men can't be friends with women unless they're gay and even then it's not a real friendship. Women don't have friends, just objects they use.

>>715620335 (OP)
>Two highly skilled geniuses
>Shouldn't be developing games becausr they don't have female friends
>Despite the fact that most men do not have female friends

>>715620468
Ywnbam

>>715620468
I’ve had plenty of female friends I have had no interest in at all, and mixed gender friend groups exist

>>715620514
Shouldn't be writing about what they don't know. Same standard we apply to woketards trying to write fantasy and shoving in lgbt shit in awkwardly.

>>715620335 (OP)
They were correct then and wrong since P4 though. Unless all the friendzone girls want the D, and cry off camera.

>>715620537
shut the fuck up object

>>715620815
After almost exclusively reading Slav fantasy and sci-fi, English stuff is REALLY cucky. It's like it's tradition at this point, just what you do when you write fantasy.

>>715620812
considering you or her are not gay then either one or both of you are ugly, and if you are both attractive then neither of you were ever single around each other for very long

>>715620335 (OP)
There is no friendship between a virgin man and a woman
The moment the man gets feelings the friendship is over

>>715620468
>>715620812
You can be friends with girls. You can have girls in your friend group that are cool to hang out with. But you can't be best friends with a hetero girl the way you can with a guy. Eventually she'll get a boyfriend and then it's really awkward for him when his girlfriend is going out to hang out with a guy friend who probably wants to fuck her. Even if it's completely platonic, the suspicion is there, making it awkward for her and you. And let's be real, it's rarely 100% platonic. If both the guy and girl are straight, the "what if" is always in the back of your mind to some degree. And you probably would fuck her given the chance, you wouldn't "go eww no, we're such good friends." You'd fuck her brains out, because you've been fantasizing about it for ages.

Plus her husband/boyfriend should be her best guy friend, so eventually you'll be replaced.

>>715620335 (OP)
women aren't capable of maintaining real friendships

>>715620468
One of the best friends that helped me out the most in life (and I also helped her back a lot) is a girl. I have always had a girlfriend, she has always had a boyfriend, we've never been both single simultaneously, so we never even considered anything other than a platonic friendship.

This is a very common scenario.

I agree that incels, specifically, can't befriend women. They'll keep thinking their female friend is their ticket out of inceldom. This is why women (and society in general) prefers men that have a stable female partner.

>>715620468
>>715620987
>>715621078
We need a new, succinct label for the types of failed boys who are brown, incel, ESL, and just plain retarded, because despite that being a hyper-specific collection of flaws I’m seeing it more and more in posters like this. And they’re fucking ruining the internet with their whiny pettiness.

>>715621272
okay so you're ugly and none of your girl friends want anything to do with you, got it lmao

>>715621119
There is no way I would fuck the women I've been friends with for 5+ years. Genuinely would say "eww no, we're such good friends". What would I even get in return for doing that? I can have sex with so many other women

>>715621432
You've never once thought about her sexually? You'd push her off if she threw herself at you?

Fine, I can believe it. I was speaking generally, I'm sure there's individual cases like yours where it works out. But the tension is there, especially if she has a boyfriend and you're single. It can be awkward hanging out alone with another guy's girlfriend, for him if not you.

>>715621432
Thiis is because you realize that if you were friends with a girl for 5 years and never fucked her, that means she was ugly. If you were friends with your dream 10/10 girl, you would have made a move sooner than 5 years

>>715621204
>They'll keep thinking their female friend is their ticket out of inceldom
It's more like hanging out with a girl, initiating nothing (scary!), hoping it'll magically transform into the seks. It's a stock trap teenagers fall into:)

>>715621596
I have occasionally masturbated to the thought of fucking them, as I have masturbated to the thought of fucking any remotely attractive woman I know. But I would not actually fuck them because that would mean throwing a very long friendship in the trash for no benefit. It doesn't make sense.

And yes some guys make it a problem if their girlfriends hang out with guy friends, but others do not care. I met most of my friends in college and people there generally don't give a fuck. Meanwhile my gf comes from a more conservative setting and the men in her family are very insecure. I'm glad I have never had to deal with that. (The funny part is that no one I know from college ever cheated, meanwhile in my gf's conservative family cheating runs rampant)

>>715621625
Some of them are very attractive anon. Do you genuinely think attractive women don't have friends? This is such a cultural shock because where I live that is normal

>>715621119
I'm thinking real hard if I'd actually want to fuck my closest female friends, if my girlfriend left me and they were single. And for any of them I can't get more than a mental "eh maybe?". Most of them are attractive but potentially torpedoing a lifetime of friendship for 10 minutes of sex doesn't seem worth it.

>>715620335 (OP)
It is hard for men and women to be friends, yeah. One of them is gonna wanna fuck the other. Generally these sorts of friendships can only form between couples. Like you and your girlfriend are friends with another guy and his girlfriend, and then it is more of a couple's friendship. You wouldn't hang out with his girlfriend on your own, and he wouldn't hang out with your gf on his own.

>>715621939
If your GF is hanging around with other guys, I have bad news for you, buddy
>inb4 UHM STOP PUTTING YOUR FETISH EVERYWHERE
It has never been normal for people in a relationship to hang out with the opposite gender if their partner is not around. It has nothing to do with insecurity, most people just actually understand human relationships.

>>715621984
The anon that said that is either an incel or only fucked one or two women thorough this entire life. He thinks sex is such a precious commodity that you should absolutely ruin a long friendship just for the chance of wetting your dick for a couple minutes. The healthy man does not use this logic because he knows he can fuck many other attractive women.

>>715621939
>I have occasionally masturbated to the thought of fucking them
Well there you go. I don't think guys are insecure for not wanting their wives or girlfriends to be hanging out alone with guys who masturbate to the thought of fucking them.

Obviously it's not a problem all the time for all people, but for a whole lot of people it is, for very normal reasons.

>>715622176
>>715622192
>insecure redneck incels giving advice about how people should live their love lives
will always be my favorite 4chan trope

>>715621984
>potentially torpedoing a lifetime of friendship for 10 minutes of sex doesn't seem worth it
When people say "sex", it's implied to be consensual bro. How does this scenario play out in your head, are these girls of yours down by default, and you're withholding it?

>>715621984
I suppose you're also kind of admitting there is sexual tension there if you would jump right into sex, but why wouldn't you take her out on a real date first and see if things would work out like that if that is also a concern?

>>715622181
I'm not saying you'd do it, and I'm certainly not saying "you should." I'm saying the possibility alone creates tension.
>>715622269
I just don't think it's that weird for a guy to be a little uncomfortable with his wife going out alone with a guy who fantasizes about fucking her. It's not a sign of him being especially insecure.

>>715622269

>>715622192
I occasionally think about putting several 9mm rounds in my bosses cranium when he's being exceptionally stupid. Does that mean I shouldn't be alone with him?

>>715622361
Just because I masturbate to someone does not mean I actually want to fuck them or have any interest in them

>>715622431
Go ahead and tell your boss that and see how he reacts.

>>715622281
Given I'm not Indian yeah it'd be consensual. The thought of rape hadn't even crossed my mind. I care about these women, why would I fantasize about hurting them?

>>715622306
You've never had a friendship turn near irrevocably awkward?

>>715622431
Not that anon, but yeah if you are being genuine right not and not just being /jokinghyperbolic. I've had shitty bosses, but I just went and got a new job. Normal people don't fantasize about real murder and real murders start somewhere.

>>715622431
I think the possibility of you having sex with someone is (somewhat) more likely than you committing murder. You've had sex (I assume) but you've never killed someone. Meanwhile, the act of sexual fantasizing is already a real thing. It's why we consider fantasizing about fucking kids as bad but not killing in games.

>>715622547
That may be the case, but you should be able to see why her partner might not accept that statement from you.

this smells like aquafag thread

>>715620335 (OP)
that was for P3, which is one of the good persona games though.

>>715622817
How does her partner even know about my masturbation thoughts? If he is assuming them out of thin air he is an insecure little bitch.

>>715622693
>"if I think about hurting someone then I am guaranteed to eventually do it"
Are you black? How little impulse control do you have?

>>715622984
The irony of this statement is great because you're admitting that you're violent as a black person and that yes these are legit murder fantasies

>>715622918
>How does her partner even know about my masturbation thoughts?
Whether he knows or not, the possibility of them is there and he wouldn't be unreasonable to assume they exist.
>If he is assuming them out of thin air he is an insecure little bitch.
But he would've assumed correctly in this case.

>>715622650
>The thought of rape hadn't even crossed my mind
Anon. If you pursue a woman you've known for a while for sex (or a relationship, whatever) and she wants it too (that's the scenario you're talking about!), how is that going to "ruin your friendship"? Not only it's a shitty shibboleth, it's a girly phrase too. Where'd you pick it up?

>>715623101
Doesn't matter, still an insecure little bitch. This thought pattern is typical of conservatives that cheat all the time.

>>715623183
Your virginity is showing. My incel friend, understand that once you have sex the friendship will never be the same again. Especially when one of you starts dating someone else and you have to, out of respect, put some distance between you and previous sexual partners.

>>715620335 (OP)
Incels make better games than SJWs

>>715620335 (OP)
They're not wrong though, there's no real reason to be friends with women you're not sleeping with.

>>715622693
>>715622720
That's fucking ridiculous, you're talking about thought crime. Like we're animals incapable of acting on impulse. It doesn't even need to be said that I'd not actually going to murder my boss. I actually like the guy he just routinely makes poor decisions and gets upset when I point them out. I'm not going to police my own imagination because a couple of armchair 4chan psychiatrists think its wrong.

>>715623217
So, even when an assumption about a friend's hidden feelings turns out to be correct, the partner's discomfort is still 'insecurity'? That just sounds like you're determined to label any concern as insecurity, regardless of the facts. And what do 'conservatives' or 'cheating' have to do with whether someone's uncomfortable with their wife's friend fantasizing about her? That's just a baseless generalization.

The point is not that you shouldn't have close female friends, but that the dynamics can understandably create tension.

>>715623068
>you're violent as a black person and that yes these are legit murder fantasies
>you're violent as a black person
>these are legit murder fantasies
>you're violent
>murder fantasies
>violent
>fantasies
Incredible. You're actually unable to comprehend the idea of having thoughts that you don't act upon. Thinking about doing something bad = actually doing it in your mind. What's your iq? This is fascinating.

>>715623489
Anon, life is not like you WEGs

>>715620335 (OP)
In general with the characters in Persona I don't really see mutual respect, I see hierarchies. With Aigis and Yukari, it's about bitchy horrible Yukari submitting and admitting inferiority to Atlus's darling Aigis. With Junpei and Door it's about how great Door is compared to Junpei.

Then again, I don't think the fans would ever just accept friendship either. The fans, men or women, aren't the types to believe in close friendships with the opposite gender. Characters always come in distinct "ranks". Very cynical, but I think it just comes with the territory of fictional stuff.

>>715620468
like your mother?

>>715621272
>We need a new, succinct label for the types of failed boys who are brown, incel, ESL, and just plain retarded,
We call those "male feminists".

>>715622269
>if you don't want other men to fuck your wife you're a redneck!

>>715623443
>>715623504
I'm not saying he should be arrested retard. I'm just saying it's not healthy or good. Would you want to be working with someone who admits to owning a gun, wanting to blow your brains out with it, but assuring you it's all okay because he has impulse control? He won't get arrested sure (though maybe it could be considered a threat), but he would definitely be fired.

>>715623635
>every relationship needs to have a dominant alpha and a weak beta
faggot

>>715622269
>um what my wife does for 3 hours after work every day is HER business, i'm not insecure at all
How's the weather in San Francisco?

>>715620335 (OP)
I've never had a female friend either.

>>715623923
you have never had a girlfriend why do you think you know how it feels

>>715621272
Indian

>>715620812
Thats just proven his point though. They just latching onto for some other form of social access.

>>715623823
I dunno if this is news to you bro but people can't see inside your head. Wrongthink isn't real (yet). You're free to fantasize about all sorts of fucked up shit. I could even argue that it would be a far healthier release than acting on it.

>>715623823
>Would you want to be working with someone who admits to owning a gun, wanting to blow your brains out with it, but assuring you it's all okay because he has impulse control?
>who admits to owning a gun
>who admits to
Again, another huge leap, where we go from "guy has thoughts about shooting someone" to "guy now has told other people he has a gun and fantasizes about shooting them".
Fuck off with this strawman horseshit where you invent an entirely different scenario where someone is downright threatening their coworkers with murder and saying that applies to everyone who's had an errant thought.

>>715623846
>>every relationship needs to have a dominant alpha and a weak beta

That's how fanbases perceive everything and that's how writers write it. Doesn't have to be that way in real life obviously, but in a fictional context it almost always is that way.

>>715621068
bier

>>715623308
It's difficult to parse you. I guess you think that your existing "friend" women are only good for casual sex, and not dating?

>>715621272
Pretty sure that's just what "incel" is for

>>715623742
You just don't understand the hustle and the bustle of the city.

>>715623443
>I'm not going to police my own imagination because a couple of armchair 4chan psychiatrists think its wrong.
You're right, it's not wrong, it's natural. I didn't mean to imply the sexual thoughts themselves are bad. And obviously violent fantasies are very different than actually planning to act on them. The fundamental difference in nature is that violent fantasies, unless they involve actual serious planning, are often a way of venting frustration or anger rather than reflecting a genuine desire for a real-world destructive outcome. Sexual fantasies, however, typically reflect a genuine desire for intimacy, connection, or physical pleasure. This isn't the same as a genuine desire to act on them with that specific person, or to betray a relationship though. I'm just saying, there's a difference in their core nature.

>>715624126
He literally just told people here in this thread, he just did it while hiding under anonymous. It's like people saying shit on social media and getting surprised that people rect to it. And legit fantasizing about wanting to kill someone is hardly an errant thought. There's a big difference between "I wish this person would die" and "I can't wait to get sweet release seeing these JHP shatter your fucking skull as you beg" or whatever the legit fantasy is.
>>715624119
No you can't argue that healthier release is to act your murder fantasies lmao. It would be healthier to admit it's wrong and focus instead on how you can better your own situation and get away from it (i.e. get a better job).

>>715624027
I have and I have been cheated on as well. You idealize women because you believe you are one, but in truth, you will never be a real woman.

>>715624138
>in a fictional context it almost always is that way.
bruh this is really sounding like a (You) problem

>>715624590
I don't see how it's a problem with me when I don't even agree with that approach either. I don't think anyone can deny that fans tend to be obsessed with power levels and tops and bottoms.

>>715623742
Monogamy is is apparently "conservative-coded" now.

>>715624554
Hmm no I'm fairly certain a fleeting thought about tapping my boss in the dome isn't wrong. Threatening him; yes, acting on it; very yes. Thinking a thought in my head where, again, nobody but me can hear it? Nah.
You're also making a lot of assumptions buddy. I like my job. I like my life. I even like my boss.
You seem to think this is some ritualistic fantasy where I mutter to myself in a dark room while menacingly loading and unloading my USP. That's fucking sick bro, what's wrong with you?

>>715623576
Care to actually address the points? That a partner's concern might be valid when an 'assumption' about hidden sexual interest turns out to be correct, and that it's not a far-fetched assumption in many cases. Which makes it valid to be concerned on some level even when they don't know for sure if sexual interest exists.

>>715624327
it’s funny how they used the word incel so much that it means nothing at this point and have to create another word just to replace incel

>>715624554
>He literally just told people here in this thread, he just did it while hiding under anonymous
>It's like people saying shit on social media and getting surprised that people rect to it.
>he just did it while hiding under anonymous
>It's like people saying shit on social media
>anonymous
>social media
Fucking hell you literally cannot fucking stop it, can you?
>"He's literally about to kill someone!"
>"Well ok he's just thinking about it but he threatened to do it!"
>"Well ok he didn't threaten anyone but he told them that he thought about it"
>"Well ok he didn't tell them so much as make an anonymous confession of random thoughts that in no way can be connected back to the actual people in question if they even exist and weren't made up to illustrate a point"
The only thing here that's "not healthy" is you having a fucking meltdown over some dude getting angry at his boss for five fucking seconds, because he knows what a gun is and how to use it and can visualize a picture in his head of him using a gun to kill someone that magically makes him set on that path, and you'll continue to invent strawman after strawman to pretend that he's crossed some ethical line.
Fuck off you psychotic thought police wannabe, you're an actual paranoid nutjob.

>>715625113
>a fleeting thought about tapping my boss in the dome isn't wrong
Yeah seems normal, I think most people think that way sometimes. There's a difference between a fleeting thought like that and thinking "I'll buy a gun and meet him when walks to his car. I know where he lives too, I'll wait outside his bushes and pop him. Then I'll hide the body here..."

>>715625325
Like if you're genuinely plotting out a murder scenario it's a little concerning. But if you're just fantasizing briefly out of annoyance with him it's a difference thing.

>>715625129
>a partner's concern might be valid when an 'assumption' about hidden sexual interest turns out to be correct
yeah and if there's a nuclear war tomorrow a whole bunch of doomsday wackos will have been "correct", that doesn't mean I'm going to join their freaky cult. you can have irrational paranoia and still be "correct" by pure chance, that doesn't justify your paranoia because it's still missing all the actual signs of something being wrong.

>>715625325
I dunno bro. I'm of the opinion that nothing is a wrong while it lies entirely in your head.

>>715620335 (OP)
OH IT SHOWS KATSURA IT SHOWS

>>715625454
>irrational paranoia
It's not paranoia. We're talking about common human sexual dynamics in close relationships, where a 'read' on someone's interest can often be accurate, not just random paranoia or luck. It's about legitimate concern for relational boundaries.

>>715620335 (OP)
It's funny seeing the responses to this statement changing over time as this website's population gets replaced by zoomers raised on twitter.

>people really want a dystopia where you are prosecuted for thought crimes

>>715625462
Eh, I agree mostly. I'm just saying one is more potentially concerning than the other, because actually formulating a plan to kill someone is more likely to be connected with committing the act.

>>715625918
P5 is the zoomers' persona baby game, don't think too much of what people want, they're just braindead mostly

>>715625931
Even then, it's not something you should be "prosecuted" for or anything. Just a case where you might want to do some self-examination.

>>715625871
How have they changed?

>>715621119
Just to be clear, I'm not discouraging healthy male-female friendships. It's simply that, unlike same-sex friendships, they can involve a potential for romantic/sexual tension that understandably creates discomfort or requires different boundaries, particularly for partners. It's about acknowledging a dynamic, not condemning friendships. It's certainly possible to be a girl's best friend despite that, so I take back the part about you not being able to be best friends with a girl like you can be with a guy. You can, it's just potentially harder because of these dynamics.

>>715624583
So you admit to being insecure

You can be best friends, just not 'like you can with a guy' because the dynamics are different. Doesn't mean you can't have just as deep of a friendship.

>>715626745
Even if there's a degree of insecurity involved, it doesn't automatically mean it's 'irrational paranoia.' Sometimes insecurity is healthy and warranted.

If you ask women if they would remain friends with a man that they are sexually attracted to they would say "of course not, I wouldn't put myself through that". Why is it wrong for men to feel the same? The only difference is that men find a much higher percentage of women sexually attractive then women do of men.

>>715621204
It's actually extremely uncommon.

Also I'd like to note male and female friendships largely didn't exist before the 70s - worldwide. We've just been gaslighting ourselves that this new radical social order is the normal that has always been, and the cracks in the system aren't there.

>>715627957
>Also I'd like to note male and female friendships largely didn't exist before the 70s - worldwide
They've always existed. They've just always been different in nature than male-male friendships.

>>715621119
There is more to sexuality than just male/female and pretty/ugly. Other factos that influence compatibility. For instance, I have pretty heterossexual female friends that are quite stereotypically submissive. But I'm really into more dominant/assertive girls.

A more proper and general version of this maybe would be "How much two people that are sexually attracted to each other can be friends?". I still think they can, but I will admit that as the intensity of the friendship and mutual sexual attraction increases, things get more complicated.

>>715620468
I think it's possible but rare. In the same way, you can safely have a pet bear. At least one person has done it successfully but you shouldn't assume it's doable.

>>715627957
You can see many such friendships in a Shakespeare book from the 1500s or any other old book really so what the fuck are you on about my dude

>>715620335 (OP)
I didn't really have any interest in making friends out of girls till I realized how useful they can be. You just cant treat her like one of the guys, you gotta be super gentle and kind and she'll do the same. Kinda like a cat. You gotta stay put but be around her. Don't try to pick her up or anything, and she'll start to care about you in her own way.

>>715627482
This, insecurity a human emotion meant to protect us just like any other emotion.

>>715621939
>throwing a very long friendship in the trash for no benefit
How would consensual sex with an attractive woman who you get along with throw anything away? You can continue to get along with her while also having sex you both want.

>>715628445
Yeah that's fair, I agree with you on all that. Good clarification.

>>715620468
>Women don't have friends, just objects they use.
I have hated women forever yet never thought of this, damn. But it makes sense, women will never take a dive for any man much less a "friend" like male buddies would. Platonic men and women can only be acquaintances at the very best.

>>715628618
Having girl friends can be a good path to making girlfriends. There's the possibility of her hooking you up with one of her friends.

>>715621119
>Try being just friends with a girl
>She keeps trying to trick me into being friends with her boyfriends by dumping them on me without permission, pretending I'm already friends with them, then giving me silent treatment while they talk for her regardless of how long I ignore them.
Yeah, not worth it.

>>715620815
I guess there shouldn't be video games of characters casting magic then.

>>715628249
>They've always existed.
If your standard is more than 0, yeah sure. If your standard is common like 60% of your great-grandparents had different sex close friends (not marriage friends), then no.

Go ahead and find an honest and mentally coherent 90 year old and ask if they had female best buddies when they grew up.

It used to be nearly everyone got married in their 20s or early 30s. And women didn't even work outside of the home. In general society was much more soft gender segregation. The amount of single women that are not living under their parents eye for whom you could be friends with was very limited. And it would not be proper for random strange men to hang out with women alone in their parents abode. Husbands don't want their wives hanging out with strange men for hours on end alone, back in the day. Couples hanging out at soirees or Church is not real friendship.

Social stigmas, stricter gender roles, and the much higher value of female chastity aside, there was just no opportunity.

>>715620335 (OP)
>This explains a lot of Persona's writing
They're not wrong. If you asked this question even 10 years ago, people who are well adapted socially would tell you that either the girl or the boy is in love with the other person and they're pretending to be totally into stamp collecting/video games or watching teen dramas, because people back then were more sincere.
Men and women can't be "friends" this has been known since the dawn of time, that's why there used to be men's clubs and women had their own circles of friends and acquaintances. This modern bullcrap about gender being made up and men/women being interchangeable is top tier gender abolitionism pozzed tranny puss tier thinking.

>>715620335 (OP)
if you don't like it, do something better
oh yeah, you can't lmao

>>715629386
Better than persona? Sure just let me take a crap and you'll haev it

>>715620468
i've had a friendship with a girl that i fucked ages ago and am not compatible with, it can happen if you've already done the sex part

>>715620537
>>715620812
>>715621204
>>715621272
objects being used.
>>715621119
>>715628461
>>715628757
People who face reality.

>>715620335 (OP)
>all these comments and none mention how it’s a cultural nono thing in japan
bots or why are you even on an otaku website

>>715629936
incel

>>715630025
I've accepted the sad reality that I'll never be Japanese years ago. Only the lucky few, like Toby Fox, can achieve that dream.

>>715630076
>incel
oh nooooo i'm so shamed right! How could this happen to me!

Even married men can be incels, lol.

>>715630096
Or Pewdiepie

>>715620335 (OP)
It would be written like that regardless because its target audience is teenage boys

>>715620812
You are a faggot.

you can be friends
but sexual attraction and tension ruins it most of the time
the only good female friends I had were the ones I grew together with knowing eachother from age 5

>>715620335 (OP)
>Come to thin of it

>>715630096
>Toby Fox
He will never be japanese. Maybe some of them will think of him as that, but he'll always be seen as a gaijin by most people. Even if he speaks perfect japanese. Even if he was somehow born in Japan and lived all his life their.
This is THE culture of conformism. They will keep doing good or dumb things just because everyone else is doing it, just because you don't want to be outlined in their society.

You didn't throw your garbage at the right time/didn't separate it properly? You filthy disgusting gaijin pig, like all gaijins.
A japanese made the same mistake? Oh it's just one japanese that made a mistake.

So, don't be sad.

>>715620335 (OP)
P6 should be /u core kino

Women don't have friends. They have human-shaped wallets & emotional tampons, and then there's Chad Thundercock who they want to fuck. Also, other women are rivals for Chad's cock that's why women are incapable of same-gender friendship.

>>715620335 (OP)
>Incels shouldn't be developing games
they shouldn't be posting on 4chan either but here we are

>>715630602
>You didn't throw your garbage at the right time/didn't separate it properly? You filthy disgusting gaijin pig, like all gaijins.
Oh man, I have a story related to that one. I was visiting Kyoto with some friends, and one of them was dating a Japanese English teacher from America. He kinda acted like our guide, because he spoke Japanese fluently.

We were walking through an area with food stands, and I asked him where to toss my garbage. He takes my stuff and tosses it in one of the octopus food stand's trash cans. The guy running the stand is fucking pissed. He runs after us, throws the trash back at the JET guy, and yells at us "FACK YOU!!" while giving us the finger.

I don't blame him. He was working serving octopus tentacles on a hot day, and some filthy gaijins mess with his trash can. But it was also funny as fuck to me, especially with his accent.

>>715630602
>He will never be japanese. Maybe some of them will think of him as that, but he'll always be seen as a gaijin by most people. Even if he speaks perfect japanese. Even if he was somehow born in Japan and lived all his life their.
That’s not a “Japan” thing, that’s a “most of the entire world” thing. Only brainwashed western white people actually believe that some random foreigner is their countryman because they moved there and learned the language.

>>715630076
>the female friend

>>715620468
FPBP

>>715621939
You are such a fucking spiritual woman.

Your woman friends are just there because youre a coward and wont fuck them. so you rationalize this as "i dont wanna ruin the friendship". You want the liberal brownie points of having woman friends so you can brag about how not "insecure" you are, which means its entirely performative, just like a woman.

you fake people genuinely sicken me. Go

>>715631243
BRING ME HAN AND THE WOOKIE.

>>715620812
I've had friends who were girls also but looking back they were more associates. If we hung outside of work, it was more because I wanted some company for whatever I was doing, or, I would have liked to have slept with them.

My TRUE friendships have just been with guys, where we share a lot of the same interests, can talk in depth about them, think in similar manners, etc.

My closest thing to a friendship with a girl was with this chick who was an autist, so she just straight up thought like a man a lot of the time.

>>715630978
Yeah, it doesn't surprise me. Kyoto has been crazily invaded by tourists. It's still a very large income for the city, but that's where the japanese conformism gets extremely retarded.
Like the bin issue: they just slap a couple of trash bins, empty them once a day and call it a victory. Then, inevitably, the trash cans are pilling up quickly, with trash being set on the ground too (because no one wants to carry some trash all days, and a lot of konbinis have started to straight up refuse people (gaijins) wanting to throw their trash).

Meanwhile, in Taiwan, what they do: put huge bins at the entrances of the food markets, with one or two persons to help the people throw their stuff (and making sure it stays inside the bin).

Meanwhile, Japanese people LOVE to blame "overtourism" (even though a large potion of the tourists are... japanese), often saying it needs to stop (even though the tourism income for a city like Kyoto is absolutely non negligible). But no, they don't use their brain, they are robots.

>>715631238
You don't know a single thing about Japan. Like I said, it's also relevant to people that were born and grew up in Japan.
Up until a century ago, the japanese used to discriminate against their own people, not based on race, but based on buddhism's (arbitrary) take on "impureness" (see burakumin/kegare).
Butcher? You're impure because you are often dealing with animal blood. Meanwhile, fishmongers or other fish related professions? All fine.

>>715626745
I swear to fuck you failed males are such spritual women you might as well transition.

>Insecurity

Insecurity applies when its self doubt, you fucking retard. Thinking your girl might be fucking around is not being insecure, its being suspicious. Its doesnt have anything to do with you, thats just a word whores use to flip it around to the man because in their minds the world revolves around them. So clearly you not completely trusting your girl alone with another man must be because of some sort of personal issue you have with yourself, not because its an obviously weird and suspicious thing to do.

You "men" have been so thoroughly feminized. You measure your own self worth by how many female friends you have, as if thats not laughable. Imagine being an emotional dildo for women and getting no pussy for it. If you had any gumption youd fuck them, but youre either painfully aware youre in the firendzone, or youre a coward.

I just enjoy hanging around women more than guys.

>>715632112
Apparently we got more negative reactions because half our group was Chinese. I don't have any proof, but JET guy told us we were being treated way ruder than normal in the konbinis and stuff. Seemed that the Chinese tourists bothered some people even more than the American ones.

>>715628618
>I didn't really have any interest in making friends out of girls till I realized how useful they can be
See, thats because youre a sneaky fucker. Instead of attracting women by being dominant and competent, you try to lay them by infiltrating their social circles and playing the role of "friend".

No man who can pull women would submit themselves to that.

>>715620468
TRVTH NVKE

>>715632112
>Like I said, it's also relevant to people that were born and grew up in Japan.
Is a donkey that was born in a stable a horse? A white guy is not Japanese just because he was born and grew up in Japan. And a brown person like (You) is not a European just because your parents hopped the border before your mom pooped you out

>this shit again
a man can be good friends with a woman, you know what the secret is? she has to be ugly

>>715632442
Yeah, Japanese people HATES Chinese tourists, granted, it's not just the Japanese, it's mostly everywhere on the planet. I still remember Chinese parents making their child piss on some famous store's window, stuff like that, so I can understand.
These are mostly the Chinese "nouveau riche".

>>715632869
Oh, you're American... that's very ironic, coming from you.

>>715632336
Because youre a feminized castrated man.

Its ok. Most of liberal men are. Actual men can only find things in common with other men. If you find that your temperament and tastes and language is more similar to a womans, that just means youre a woman.

It would be ok if you werent obviously insecure of your own femininity so you had to make it everyone elses problem. Everyone needs to constantly know how secure with your masculinity you are. Its actually everyone else thats insecure. If only you were there to teach them about gossiping and horoscope so that they could learn what a true man is like.

>>715633103
>If you find that your temperament and tastes and language is more similar to a womans, that just means youre a woman.
Trans gender ideology bullshit

>>715633029
Lmao, so you are a coping browncel, I knew it. Dude, just accept what you are. Be grateful that you get to live in a nice white country, but don’t delude yourself into believing that you are ACTUALLY an American or an European.

>>715632442
Chinese tourists are the fucking worst. I hate the chinese so fucking much. I understand the pain the Japanese are going through.

>>715633363
Fuck off, fake American.

>>715631787
>My closest thing to a friendship with a girl was with this chick who was an autist, so she just straight up thought like a man a lot of the time.
This is just true in general. Women just dont have intellectual curiosity. They'll rarely delve beyond the surface about even the shit they actually like. An autistic women doesnt have any reason to be pretentious or performative. They just say and do the things they want. They dont filter it by how socially approved an idea might be before laying it out.

>Wahhh youre an incel
Women will readily admit to you that they do this. If you only interact with them on the internet than i understand why you might think that women are just men with pussies, but women are actually very, very insecure. Which is why this is their favorite insult, along with virgin/incel. Theyre terrified of negative attention and social awkwardness, so they just defaut their entire worldview to what is socially acceptable. Even their rebelliousness obeys this.

Its all very performative and fake.

>>715633103
>Most of liberal men are. Actual men can only find things in common with other men. If you find that your temperament and tastes and language is more similar to a womans, that just means youre a woman.
This is how trannies think btw, if you think that putting on a dress and a high voice makes you a woman, you are thinking like a tranny. Makes sense, given that republicans and other cuckservatives are notorious for being closeted gays/trannies

>>715620468
What's wrong with having lesbo friends though? Do you know how many straight/bi women I meet through them

>>715620468
Trvke unfortunately

>>715633504
Actually there is no such thing as a Chinese person and you are a vile anti American racist if you believe that there is. If a pregnant Chinese tourist gives birth while she’s visiting NYC, that baby is just as American as you are and is completely identical to you.

>>715634062
Lesbians literally do not exist outside of the extremely rare butch freak with hormonal imbalances

>>715634062
Watch Chasing Amy She was actually bi and identifying as a lesbian, but still

>>715633669
America was founded by and for White people, not Jewish communist cartoonists.

>>715620335 (OP)
You don’t forge friendship with women except with your wife. Any one who says other wise is a woke liar trying to subvert nature. Men and women friendship is different we are not the same. They are speaking the truth.

>>715633232
Spiritually anon. Of course theyre not women, they just really, really, really wish they were.

These are typical of coddled children urbanites who were raised by mostly women. Typically they have no strong father figure. They grew up seeing their dad constantly capitulate and fold to moms constant nagging. That's their idea of what a man is like: A weak retard who panders to women. They take the easy way out of things. They hate conflict the most. Thats why their mating strategy is to be a chamaleon: They infiltrate womans social circles and try and farm female approval until one of them fucks them. They might even have some degree of success in doing so, but only after hours and hours of gossiping and being an emotional dildo for essentially the whole group.

Every single guy i knew who hung out with women were either gay or were pinning for one. This seems failly obvious to anyone who has any reasonable amount of testosterone, but I guess in here thats not a safe assumption.

>>715628468
>books
oh sweety...

>>715634482
>theyre not women, they just really, really, really wish they were.
>They infiltrate womans social circles and try and farm female approval until one of them fucks them. They might even have some degree of success in doing so
So they “really want to be women”, but also they’re just there to get sex from women? Like a straight male would do? Typical contradiction from some brown retard that copes by being overly macho

>>715621939
I agree. There's the instinctual aspect of it. You, as a man, want to fuck a woman, this is a pure physical thing, but you also know, rationally, that doing so brings you no true benefit, and pursuing that would, at best, lead you to some momentary pleasure and then you'd have to somehow adjust for the consequences. It's just not worth the effort, when you can have the same pleasure by pursuing non-friends.

I do find benefits of keeping female friends around, I've known a lot of them for years and there's isn't much of a difference between my male friends and female friends. I view the former like brothers, and the latter as sisters, informally, of course.

>>715633827
>republicans and other cuckservatives are notorious for being closeted gays/trannies
Whatever you have to tell yourself lol. Leftists are really funny people that gaslight themselves witht their own gaslighting. Most of them are just normal.

>This is how trannies think btw, if you think that putting on a dress and a high voice makes you a woman, you are thinking like a tranny.
Yeah but that is neither here nor there, innit?

>>715634882
Mentally ill men taking illogical actions?
Impossible.

Reminder that open extreme misogyny is a deathnic non-white trait. Yes, traditional white culture had some paternalistic, benevolent sexism. But it also gave women (relatively) the most rights and respect compared to any other civilization in the world. This sort of overexaggerated contempt comes from the mind of a brown person, which is why they seethe whenever race is brought up despite spending all day stoking the fires of the gender wars

>>715635062
>want to have sex with women
>take action that will increase your chances of having sex with women
What about this is illogical? Do you not understand cause and effect?

>>715621119
I was close friends with a girl. She had been in a steady relationship with another guy for years, and naïvely I took that to mean that then I can just treat her like an ordinary human being instead of someone of the opposite sex. Because she is taken. I won't ever approach her romantically and she will never approach me romantically, because from the get go, we both know that she is not available.

And for years it was just like that. And we had friendly, platonic relations.
But then some kind of fucked up drama happened with her boyfriend's family, and they tried to make it work, but it took ugly turns and eventually it just didn't work and their relationship was utterly destroyed.
And that's when she tried to rebound to me and it became super fucking awkward. There were other women I was interested in, and I had never pursued this friend romantically nor did I even think she'd make a good girlfriend. But now I was by far the man she was the closest to, having developed a close friendship over the years. So perhaps unsurprisingly, she tried to change what our relationship was. And she did kind of bluntly, confessing her love.
And when I didn't reciprocate, even if she quickly retracted what she had said and tried to act as if it had never even happened. Things were never the same between us and we drifted apart.

While I knew that friendships with the opposite sex would always be bound to be complicated. I naïvely thought it'd be a simple matter if they were in a stable relationship. I was wrong.
/blog

>>715635039
>Yeah but that is neither here nor there, innit?
>you find that your temperament and tastes and language is more similar to a womans, that just means youre a woman.
Your words, not mine. You think like a tranny, not me.

>Most of them are just normal.
You’re a Pakistani incel immigrant that believes that a man can become a woman if he believes he is, and that a brown Asian can become a white Englishman if he believes he is. Is that normal?
>>715635489
Saar we know you’re using AI slop to write your posts for you
Saar you aren’t going to be paid for bot farming if the users aren’t falling for your tricks

>>715635197
Women are just worse than ever before, so misogyny needs to rise to meet that reality. If your great grandfather witnessed the shit that is the modern female, you'd be calling him brown for the way he reacted.

>>715620468
ALERT ALERT TRVKE DROPPED

>>715635307
Believing you are female while being male is illogical. A sign of irrevocable mental illness. All other actions are suspect and should be impeded. Preferably by permanent incarceration.

>>715634882
>So they “really want to be women”, but also they’re just there to get sex from women? Like a straight male would do?
I guess you IQ falls somewhere in the women average too, lol. Last I heard trannies were also in their majority sex pests. Last i head male feminists are also notorious for being sex pests.

Being a man entails more than just fucking women. I guess that to your brianwashed castrated zommie brain thats all there really is to differentiate men and women, but thats not the case, nor has it ever been.

>Typical contradiction from some brown retard that copes by being overly macho
Oh look, the race warrior is also a male feminist. What an incredible specimen from the white race.

Its also quite insase that you find the notion of "men relate to men" overly macho. Like youre such a spiritual woman that notion that is common sense to the vast majority of the world is "overly" macho. Pretty soon not wearing panties will be considered overly macho.

Listen dude, if you wanna like your life as a doormat for women because the thought of male competition intimidates you so much, thats fine, but dont come in here talk about masculinity. Youre a fucking pathetic faggot and no man (or woman, when it comes down to it) will ever respect you.

It might be hard for you to process this, but girls are lame. They talk and like lame girly shit and they get periods and cry at nothing. I just cant imagine any man finding anytihng in common with a woman, not enough to suffer through that. I know its not politically correct, but the truth hardly ever is.

>>715635635
>>715635197
This framing that being a pathetic feminized man is some sort of white pride thing is quite the insane take.

Any confederate would call you a queer and shoot you in the head.

>Extreme mysoginy
Ah yes. "men and women" cant be friends is "extreme mysoginy" you effete pearl clutching queer.

>>715635635
>Saar we know you’re using AI slop to write your posts for you
I'm not sure if the post you're replying to did it, but I can admit I was actually doing this earlier in the thread testing to see if anybody would catch on. AI is getting way better at appearing convincingly real to anons. We're all fucked.

>>715636074
>I guess you IQ
>last I head
>zommie brain
>Its also quite insase
>Like your such
>anytihng
Holy fucking brown meltdown. Are you still bussyblasted from earlier ITT when I pointed out that you are not an European, and never will be? Half your post is just complete rambling nonsense. I never even said that men and women can be friends, my first reply was mocking you for thinking like a tranny, which you are still doing. Go back to the English textbook, or even better, back to the south Asian subcontinent

>>715635489
>And for years it was just like that. And we had friendly, platonic relations.
No you didnt. You never had.

You were simply plan B. You were the fallback guy. Lots of women keep some orbiter around in case things dont go as planned. Thats how she really saw you, as a good but ultimately inferior option.

Its incredibly concerning to me that this reads as some sort of incel women hating stance. I really thought it was obvious to most men. Like everytime we saw some guy was close with the girls in school/college whatever it was understood he was either gay or was being a sneaky fucker.

Thinking men and women can be platonic friends is about as retarded as thinking a man can be a woman. There are sexual dynamics present in all men/woman relations. Youre gaslighting yourself if you think its not there much like a tranny is gaslighting himself by thinking his penis doesnt matter, hes a woman. Youre doing the same thing : "the fact that i have a penis doenst matter, i see this woman just like i would a man". Thats retarded, no one thinks like that in earnest. At least trannies have the excuse of being mentally ill. You're just being stupid.

>>715636439
>reddit spacing
>poor grasp of English, can’t even spell simple words correctly
>half your posts “written” by chatbot AI slop
Why don’t you shoot yourself in the head first buddy, make sure to aim properly so you can hit your tiny tiny brown brain

>>715620468
TRUTHE SUPERNOVA

>>715635197
"Misogyny" isn't a definable trait.

>white people do x so you must do x if you're white
Whites cut their dicks off and destroy their own countries, so?

>>715635883
>Believing you are female while being male is illogical.
I agree, when are >>715633103 (you) checking yourself into a mental hospital?

>>715636889
Thats not ESL retard-kun, those are just misspellings. Theyre quite common.

And most whites are also ESL. Britain and Muttland is nigger central. Speaking english does not make you white you retard. Im sure im whiter than you.

Youre such a retarded mental midget dude. Youre obsessed with trannies. Usually when a man calls another man a woman its implied he doesnt actually think hes a woman, hes just insulting them. But since youre a faggot obssessed with other faggots, you think I meant like he was an actual woman.

Youre an idiot.

>>715637231
>more Reddit spacing
>projecting xer own degeneracy onto whites (black and latino Americans are more likely to identify as LGBT than whites)
>more ai slop replies
You are such a fucking subhuman it’s unreal, botfarming shill

>>715623671
kek

Why can't you be friends with someone and also be willing to fuck them? I don't get it. I have female friends, I'm kind of attracted to a few of them in the sense that if no-strings attached sex was on the table I'd go for it. But I rarely think about that and I have desire for a relationship with any of them. So what is supposedly so weird or wrong here?

>>715637640
Acquaintances are not friends

>>715637567
>I’m NOT an ESL!!!
>…but even if I was, that’s actually a good thing, trust me I’m European. What European country? Bangl- I mean uhh none of your business
Goalpost shifting in a single paragraph, you are such an ugly greasy little rat of a “person”

>>715637572
>People found out im a faggot, better call them indian.

Post hand faggot. Lets see your limp wrist.

>>715637572
>>more Reddit spacing
ESL nigger doesn't know how paragraphs work? You separate thoughts with spaces between paragraphs so it's easier to read.

>>more ai slop replies
You're a schizo.

>>715637771
>more Reddit spacing
>begs people to post their hands because xe is a homosexual and wants to jerk it to white male bodies
>won’t post his own because it is brown, hairy, and covered with curry and shit stains
You are >>715621272, down to the letter, and you have been running damage control ITT for 3 hours straight. Pathetic

>>715637737
I would say the difference is whether you can be your true self around them or whether you have a 'polite' filter, which I don't.

>>715637872
>giant space between every sentence
>i-it’s just a paragraph!
KILL

YOURSELF

ESL

BROWN

SUBHUMAN

>>715638107
This nigga never read a book

>>715638024
I wouldn't say that if your "true self" is extremely safe and mainstream

>>715637640
>So what is supposedly so weird or wrong here?
The fact that youre cockblocking yourself into the friendzone when if it was up to you you'd fuck them.

Do you faggots have even a single male friend? Do you know what having friends is like? You dont fuck your friends. You dont even consider fucking your friends. Its never a thing that happens. You dont look at your friends tits and ass and wonder what it would be like if you slid your cock in them.

You dont have friends, you have a coward untruthful relationship that you wish was different but you dont wanna rock the boat.

>>715638162
1.) You haven’t read a book since high school
2.) That book was most likely in Spanish or Hindi
3.) Acting like a tough guy online won’t make women touch your 4 inch brown pecker

>>715629013
>>She keeps trying to trick me into being friends with her boyfriends by dumping them on me without permission
boyfriends?

i'm 33 and i have never had a full conversation with a woman unrelated to me.

>>715638446
Same but 24. Is it over?

>>715638504
why would i have any advice when i'm worse off than you?

>>715638446
23 here, reporting in.
>>715638504
Normal guys started talking to girls when they were around half our age or a few years above that. Nothing has changed for us for a decade, what makes you think it’s going to happen now? Of course it’s over, it never even started

>>715635652
You know posts like this just reveal that you are a third worlder ESL, right? Like at least do some basic research on the country you’re supposedly from

>>715638995
You need medication.

>>715639156
You need to go back to your own country before ICE deports your brown ass

>>715638024
>true self
You mean the part that wants to fuck them?

Youre your true self, but youre attracted to them. Do they know youre attracted to them? Do they carry on normally even though you all know youd fuck them? Or do they not know, and youre full of shit?

What do you even get out of female friendship? This sounds like a thoroughly cucked situation. Imagine everytime i was hanging with my bros i ever caught myself thinking id fuck them. Sounds retarded, right? Thats because it is.

Also, just for your information, if women treat you like a friend (i.e. like a fellow woman) it means that they dont see you as a man. If they saw you as a man they wouldnt be gossiping about their whore stories or whatever clear unpleasantness thats making you think you'd not want any of them as gfs.

I swear to Christ, we have so much information about this avaliable. Why the fuck do you faggots continue to wanna turn water into wine? Why do you continue to assume women are just men with pussies? Theyre not, theyre just clearly not. This idea that men and women can be friends is TV sitcom shit.

>>715639269
>ICE
>Deporting anyone
You sure you're from here?

>>715631636
kek

>>715631495
>You want the liberal brownie points of having woman friends so you can brag about how not "insecure" you are, which means its entirely performative, just like a woman.
Or I rationally concluded that keeping friendships that have helped me out numerous times is better than fucking them for 10 minutes and having to cut them off my life?

>>715639396
True, if they did their job properly you wouldn’t be here right now, but a guy can dream

>>715638340
>youre cockblocking yourself into the friendzone
How am I cockblocking myself if I'm open to sex? I just don't pursue it if it doesn't look like an option since I'm not Indian.
>You dont even consider fucking your friends.
But why is that a strict rule? If I had a fit of madness and installed League of Legends and immediately turned gay as a result, would I also stop being friends with all my male friends just because they suddenly looked hot to me? Seems like it's a pretty weak friendship if a random boner can destroy it.
>you have a coward untruthful relationship that you wish was different
I also wish my friends would play all the same games I play and never be slightly annoying and have infinite time for me. Being friends with someone means you accept them regardless of all their flaws, things you don't like, and things that get in the way. And being attracted to a friend isn't even one of those problems. I think "wow those are nice tits" for half a second and then I think about something else and it doesn't matter. What fucking world do you live in where if a girl is hot that becomes all you can think about?

>>715621204
why do these kinds of posts always have some gay fucking bored anime girl reaction image

>>715620468
sad but true

>>715639919
>would I also stop being friends with all my male friends just because they suddenly looked hot to me?
NTA but if I were your friend and knew you wanted to have gay sex with me, yes I would probably stop hanging out with you.

>>715637640
>if no-strings attached sex was on the table I'd go for it
This is the problem

Being "attracted" is a non-argument. Attractive people are attractive, period. This is instinctual. The point is that you must rationally choose not to have sex with that person even if you have the chance to do that.

>>715640063
How the fuck can you be so insecure.

I have gay friends that tried to get in my pants. I said I was straight, they never pressed on the matter again and we've been friends for 10+ years.

Hopefully you people are basement dwellers that never had the chance to actually live up these shitty ideals

>>715640226
Because fags are gross and I wouldn't be comfortable around them.

>>715638713
>>715638504
>>715638446
I was thoroughly an incel until 27 when i started using bumble and now i have a girlfriend who i fuck everyday.

I dont think im ugly but I was under a lot of wrong assumptions and assumed i was too autistic/weird for women to ever wanna be with me. Turns out if a women is into you you can be as autistic and awkward as you want.

I understand that some of you may be incredibly ugly, but men can land women even if theyre fat and ugly, and they dont need to have a lot of money as well. Either way my advice would be to do the same shit I did: Lift weights and train some sort of combat sport seriously. Women are smol beans. Once you pierce the veil you'll laught at yourself for ever thinking they were intimidating and that will increase your chances.

Of course, theres also one thing to consider: Maybe being single isnt the worst thing in the world, and the grass is always greener. Once you get the GF you'll see that life isnt really radically so different. Maybe the only way youll ever realize that is by getting one.

One final piece of advice: As long as shes not disgusting, a fugly 4/10 who loves you and sucks you dick everyday is FAR better than an entitled 10/10 who thinks shes hot shit and you have to constantly appease her fragile ego. Ancient chinese proverb: An ugly wife is a treasure in the home.

>>715640331
>gross and I wouldn't be comfortable around them
So you know how everyone feels about you

>>715640226
You got raped and you're trying to rationalize it. Seek help.

>>715620335 (OP)
those 2 are married and have children bro.

>>715639371
>Do they know youre attracted to them?
Probably. I certainly haven't hid it.

>Do they carry on normally even though you all know youd fuck them?
I don't think about fucking them 99% of the time so I assume they don't think about me fucking them 99% of the time.

>What do you even get out of female friendship?
Insight into women, some good movie recommendations, interior decor advice...

>if women treat you like a friend (i.e. like a fellow woman) it means that they dont see you as a man
I'm not sure what that means or why I should be offended by it. They know I'm male, I'm straight, they probably don't want a relationship with me but that's just fine by me. Does my being friends with them I don't see them as women? Because if they feel the same towards me I'm fine with it.

>Why do you continue to assume women are just men with pussies?
They're very clearly not, and that's part of why I think it's good to have them as friends. They see shit that men don't, occasionally it's useful. And I give them advice they don't get from their female friends.

>>715640753
>no u
epib

>>715640332
>Ancient chinese proverb: An ugly wife is a treasure in the home.
in what reality are in living in where uggo fat women aren't entitled as fuck and calling 90% of men too ugly and broke to fuck and date. your advice worked 30 years ago. not today. it never fails to astound me how good looking volcels think they speak for average to below average men who are completely invisible to all women. you will never understand, if a woman is attracted to you period you are already far above average lookswise.

>>715640753
>Straight btw I just get irrationally angry when someone wouldn't be my friend in a hypothetical situation where I wanted his penis

>>715640075
>The point is that you must rationally choose not to have sex with that person even if you have the chance to do that.
Yeah I meant "no strings" as in an impossible scenario where there would magically be no consequences. Not something I would willingly choose in real life.

>>715640332
>Turns out if a women is into you you can be as autistic and awkward as you want.
Damn nigga took this long to learn about the blackpill, yes if your attractive byou can get away with literally fucking anything you could beat the shit out of her and it will only make her want you harder

>I understand that some of you may be incredibly ugly, but men can land women even if theyre fat and ugly
then you sure can't be autistic and awkward then

>>715641181
It was an immediate red flag when he mentioned getting matches on dating apps lmao

>>715620468
The saddest pill to swallow.

>>715640226
I don't think you know what insecure means. Insecure would be to stop hanging out because you think you aren't good enough for your friends. I don't like you because you're a fag that likes guy cocks and you're disgusting. Please seek help, dude.

I think you can be just friends with a woman if you are already in a relationship and getting sexually fulfilled elsewhere. Otherwise you're just going to want to fuck her your THAT good friends with her anyway.

Unless it's like an old woman or something. Do people think you can't be friends with a little old lady too? Is that included when people say men and women can't be friends?

I don’t think that men and women can be friends. I mean you can be friendly with your sister or your cousin, and you can get along well with your gf. But I don’t think two people can be “just friends” if one of them wants to have sex with the other.

At the same time, I don’t hate women, and I don’t think they’re inferior or evil or stupid. I don’t hate men either, I think both sexes are equal, not equal as in literally being the same, but having equal worth and needing each other the same way.

Is there anyone else like me ITT? Rational people in the center, that aren’t insane feminists that think gender is a social construct, but also aren’t rabid incel misogynists that despise half the human race?

>>715620468
>Women don't have friends, just objects they use.

This applies to relationships as well, unfortunately.

>>715641870
Shut the fuck up, retard.

>>715620335 (OP)
If you think being an incel is bad imagine being a friendcel.

>>715642023
I don't "hate" women but they're obviously not equal in many respects. Being a fence sitter does not automatically make you correct or rational

>>715641523
There are studies proving that the people vocally anti-gay (like you) are actually repressing their gay thoughts. So yeah, you are an insecure faggot

>>715639919
>But why is that a strict rule?
Because friendship is platonic.

>Seems like it's a pretty weak friendship if a random boner can destroy it.
I dont know if this retardation is because youre a liberal denying reality or you just havent thought this through. But no faggot. You typically can't be friends with a person and secretly want to fuck them.

Your best analogy was to compare yourself with a closeted gay man who eants to fuck their male friends. doesnt that raise any alarms at all? That being a faggot is the closest thing you can think of to your situation?

>I also wish my friends would play all the same games I play and never be slightly annoying and have infinite time for me.
This is entirely different from wanting the nature of the relationship to be different. You sound like a needy bitch, might i add.

>Being friends with someone means you accept them regardless of all their flaws, things you don't like, and things that get in the way
God you definitely sound like a woman. Am i really taking to a man?

No faggot. It doesnt mean any of that. Its not about acceptance. Its about enjoying each others company platonically. You dont fuck your friends nor you wish you'd fucked your friends.

>What fucking world do you live in where if a girl is hot that becomes all you can think about?
The normal, straight male world, sorry to say.

"Oh if i just ignore that i want to fuck her, its like i dont wanna fuck her at all and were just friends". Like youre jumping through hoops in order to put a square peg in a circle hole.

And for what? For the priviledge of being the emotional sponge of some foid? Some foid youd happily bend over and ram your cock into if you had the chance? Yeah man, sounds like your typical guy relationship, nothing queer at all.

>>715642330
I figured it was this retarded argument again.
>Anyone who doesn't like me secretly wants to fuck me
Just typical faggot narcissism

>>715642023
You're a sheltered troglodyte high on his own farts.

>>715620468
>Women don't have friends, just objects they use.
FPBP+based and only nonvirgins can understand this

>>715642154
>I don't "hate" women but they're obviously not equal in many respects
I didn’t say that men and women are literally the same and equal in every respect. I explicitly said the opposite of that. There are different things men and women are good at, some things are unequal in favor of males, other things are unequal in favor of females. At the end of the day we both still have equal worth as humans, and both equally need each other.

>>715620468
fpbp
lookit all those angry deluded simp stubs too. you hate to see it

>>715642454
If you passionately hate someone just because they are gay, yes you are a closeted faggot, this is basic science.

>>715642154
>Being a fence sitter does not automatically make you correct or rational
This. If one person says "the sky is blue" and another guy says "I think it's yellow", that doesn't automatically make it green.
Coming to /v/ to brag about how "rational" you are just paints you as a failed normalfag

>>715642458
I was a bit preachy and self-righteous at the end there, you have a point I was a bit of a tard. Do you have any actual argument though or are you just going to namecall?

>>715639932
failed wannabe normalfags describing one of their very few human interactions outside of their parents. the tranime reaction image and longwinded writing style are just symptoms of the cause

>>715642696
>it’s midday, the sky is blue
>it’s the late evening, the sky is yellow
I think you’re both right and it depends how/when you look at it
>you’re a fence sitting retard, pick a side!!!!

>>715642659
Yeah yeah and you secretly want to fuck your local child molester

>>715620335 (OP)
Those two are married aren’t they? I could have sworn they were.

>>715642871
>failed wannabe normalfags
Yeah because successful normal people are totally having meaningless culture war arguments on an anime website in the middle of a workday, stop posturing retard

it's funny how across the internet there's a sentiment that nonchad men shouldn't even so much as interact or look at women but out in the real world i do see ugly men dating and having female friends. so why does it seem like the entirety of the internet is incredibly misandrist and hateful towards nonchad men?

>>715643005
>secretly
why oh why am I not a cute shota

>>715642330
>wtf bro why won't you let me suck your cock??? I bet it's because you're gay
If it's not your faggotry that's turning people away, it's your insanity.

>>715642659
I don’t hate someone just because they’re gay, that doesn’t mean I want them near me or in my personal space.

>>715640827
>Probably. I certainly haven't hid it.
And they carry on in spite of that? Sounds very much like a one sided relationship youre gaslighting yourself to think its equal.
I think guys like you just odnt have any friends. You dont have any frame of reference.

>I don't think about fucking them 99% of the time so I assume they don't think about me fucking them 99% of the time.
I know this is hard to you, but sexual attractiveness isnt really soemthing you "think about". Its instinctual. You feel it. So you feel differently about them than they feel about you. Does not sound like a friendship to me, it sounds like some gay beta orbiter shit.

>Insight into women, some good movie recommendations, interior decor advice...
Youre such a fucking lying scumbag. Seriously. "Im friends with women because of movie recommendations" Yeah that doenst sound completely retarded and unhinged at all.

>I'm not sure what that means or why I should be offended by it
It means they see you as less than a man. They fundamentally dont respect you the same they would a man. Respect is the foundation for friendship, less so if you're just looking for interior decor advice, lol. You spineless freakazoid.

>Does my being friends with them I don't see them as women?
No, because you wanna fuck them. Youre very aware of the inequalities.

>They're very clearly not, and that's part of why I think it's good to have them as friends.
Thats not why you have friends. You dont have friends becuase "theyre useful". Thats some psycho shit. You have friends because you relate to each other and enjoys each others company, and just that. Youre clearly trying to sound like some ultra woke retard who can be friends with women despite wanting to fuck them, but it comes across as insincere, like you dont know what actual friendship is.

Par for the course for your fucking lot.

>>715620335 (OP)
based

>>715642592
This is just stupid empty platitudes of some faggot whos too cowardly to pick a lane.

>>715620468
fpbp
They hated him because he spoke the truth, but y'all aren't ready for that discussion fr

>>715643571
>everything MUST be black and white, yes or no, there is no room for nuance
Do you think two things can’t be equal unless they are literally exactly the same in every regard?

>>715643005
>comparing sex between consenting adults with pedophilia
You are only reinforcing how gay you are.

And this is honestly sad. No one should hate themselves. Anon I hope you now that your sexual orientation is valid.

>>715643202
>>715643235
More closeted faggots. Look at what science says:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8772014/

>Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29);
>The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored
>Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli

>>715643385
>It means they see you as less than a man. They fundamentally dont respect you the same they would a man.
Respect =/= sexual attraction. Just because they aren’t sexually attracted to you (which is instinctive like you said) doesn’t mean they don’t respect or like you.

>>715643798
reminds me of how the most transphobic countries are also the biggest consumers of shemale porn

>>715620468
fpbp, women are made to be sex slaves for men. One woman should be given to one man as a sex slave wife with all the wife's duties.

>>715621119
My best friend is a woman and we have been best buds for 25+ years.

>>715620468
Do you ever have lucid moments when you realize you are the reason women hate you?

>>715643798
HOLY SHIT INCELS BTFO

>>715644039
I'M TRANS BTW!!!!
Urmm if that matters guhehe....

>>715643798
How does this work when gay people in my country get beheaded in a crowd for everyone to see? Are the executioners secretly gay or something?

>>715620335 (OP)
based

>>715643997
That's the best part, they don't.

>>715644217
If they do it to carry out some shitty religion maybe not necessarily, but the anons here needlessly saying "I HATE HATE HATE GAY PEOPLE FUCK WHEN I FIND OUT SOMEONE IS GAY I SPIT AT THEM AND SAY I CAN'T BE THEIR FRIEND!!" are obviously compensating for something as the studies prove.

>>715643798
Did they do this very study on CP and found that the vast majority of straight men are aroused by cunny?

>>715643967
how much older than you is she?

>>715643798
totally legit science here. All those homophobic men just causually consented to watching gay porn while having an apparatus tied to their cock.

Completely disregarding the fact that a closeted gay man would know theyre attracted to men.

Trannies are so fucking retarded.

>>715644217
Yes! Trust the science, goy

>>715638428
Are under the impression women only ever have one bf during their life, you bigot?

>>715642659
I don't hate because they're gay, I hate them because they're annoying and ruined my hobbies. I also hate that they can't keep their shit in the privacy of their own rooms and keeps doing it in public for all to see. They're like women but worse in everyway. Women I want to be put in their place, faggots need to have their face caved in.

>>715644406
if by cunny you mean hebe then yes, if you mean loli then no

>>715643051
You might be astounded, but yeah.

This also isnt culture war retard. This is castrated spiritually feminine men once again coming here and insisting theres nothing feminine about being in a gaggle of women gossiping and giggling. Its actually because theyre very secure in their masculinity that they do it,much like im very secure in my heterosexuality which is why i go to gay saunas. After all its just a sauna.

Trannies at least have the excuse of being mentally ill abused retards. This is just classic male insecurity, but from a liberal POV, which make sit doubly hilarious.

I have to prove im actually really masculine, but without offending the very feminized sensibilities of leftism and feminism. I dont envy their position one bit, being a liberal man is a humiliation ritual.

>>715644217
>Are the executioners secretly gay or something?
Yep. They probably secretly rape the male corpses too.

>>715644406
It's what happens to a sad majority of federal agents, and I'm not even joking.

>>715620468
>all the lying, seething responses to this post
Good job.

>>715637070
You're projecting hard on that guy

>>715644217
>>715643941
PAKI ALERT! PAKI ALERT!

THIS POSTER IS A BROWN ESL INCEL ETHNIC

ALL HIS POSTS ARE EXTREMELY LOW QUALITY

KEEP ALL
>females
>prepubescent children
>dogs, cats, goats, and other animals
AWAY FROM THE BROWNCEL, THEY ARE AT RISK OF RAPE

PAKI ALERT! PAKI ALERT!

>>715644497
>I also hate that they can't keep their shit in the privacy of their own rooms and keeps doing it in public for all to see
Do you also hate when straight people kiss in public? Or when a movie features a straight couple?

>>715644762
no because that's normal

>>715644762
No? Only a mentally disturbed faggot like yourself would care about that.

>>715644762
no, perpetuating healthy human relations is beautiful

>>715643051
>Yeah because successful normal people are totally having meaningless culture war arguments on an anime website in the middle of a workday
Yes? Don't you have normalfag friends? They do all sorts of retarded shit at work. I introduced many of them to 4chan and we browse some boards together sometimes. They enjoy going to /lgbt/

>>715644762
kek
thought you had a gotcha only to get instantly shit on
love seeing you queers try to use this argument and getting ruined

>>715643874
>Respect =/= sexual attraction.
Not for women. Women need to respect you in order to open their legs for you. Thats some basic evolutionary psychology. Men are dominant and women are submissive. What enforces that is what makes them wet.

They can like you, but they fundamentally think youre less of a man then the men they're attrated to (ESPECIALLY if they know youre attracted to them).

>>715644839
>>715644854
>>715644874
>wah why don't the gays do it only in their rooms!
>oh but straights people can do whatever they want~

Way to our yourself as turbofaggots:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8772014/

>Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29);
>The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored
>Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli

>>715644562
>i’m totally a successful normal healthy person which is why i waste hours in the middle of a workday in frivolous chest beating internet arguments
Ok

>>715644669
But I am not from Pakistan, I come from Somalia but live in England now

>ALL WOMEN ARE VAPID WHORES!
*stars playing a gacha game, jerks off*
>Sniff... why can't women be loyal like you, Lolisha from Cunny Cunny Magica Girls?

>>715645018
I'm not gay like those fags tho
I think men are gross
Lesbians are gross too

>>715644669
>Xhe is still seething about being an object male feminist cuck

>>715645058
Youre really outing yourself as some sort of failed normie if you think normies dont engage in internet arguments and live perfect lives.

youre not as abnormal as you think anon.

>>715644435
We are both 37

>>715645073
This but unironically. If more women were like Lolisha, the world would objectively be a much better place.

>>715645063
same thing

>>715644762
No, that puts a smile on my face, as I can instinctively tell that it's right.

>>715644939
Yeah I totally show all my based redpilled kek memer friends 4chan IRL too, we like to share our woahjak folders with each other to dab on the heckin normies! It’s radicool!!!

>>715645073
This but completely unironically.

>>715644669
I'm not though, I wouldn't cover my woman up, I would slut her up while having a sex dungeon built in the basement to use her.

>>715644939
Elon is a billionaire videogaymer and is engaging in culture war BS. Just to let you know which side is winning btw!

>>715620468
Fpbp

>>715621596
>You've never once thought about her sexually?
Have you ever thought about wanting to fuck your sister or mom? Why is this so baffling to people.

>>715645241
True but if more guys were loyal and brave and have seen as much combat against Darkness Rape Demons like Lolisha the world would also be a better place, moot point

>>715644762
>kiss
Who was talking about kissing. Try holding giant parades and swinging their dicks and tits around in full view of children. Straight people don't feel the need to do this.

>>715620468
Rare wisdom posted in a Persona thread of all places.

>>715645224
Yeah on instagram and twitter not an incel forum made to discuss pornography and children’s cartoons

>>715645534
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival

>>715645442
tf you on about, m8?

>he's still samefagging his post

>>715645018
>Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos
So by your logic, gays aren't real in the first place because they're also aroused by women.

Any videogames for this feel, sisters? I also think people don't actually hate me and secretly want my gock

>>715645195
I’d rather be a male feminist cuck than brown.

>>715645545
this is not a fucking Persona thread and we both know this

>>715645605
>Rome
>straight
Lmao

>>715645669
Baldy's Gayte 3

>>715621119
While this is usually the case 90% of the time, I will say it works when the girl is ugly. Sometimes.

>>715645701
The bull will also be brown because cucks tend to be leaning on the left side of the spectrum

Lmfao that’s exactly why those games are good. Realistic characters. Women are fucking venomous asps, the juicy butt cheeks a pit, a magnet tar pit trap

>>715645715
It's mostly faggots, can't tell the difference.

>>715645662
>this is the intellectual level of homophobes
Where are the gays in the study anon? Are you this dumb?

One group was homophobic men, the other group was non-homophobic men. Obviously they were all claiming to be straight, after all, the non-homophobic group displayed zero arousal to gay videos (so they were straight), while the homophobic group claimed to be straight but it turns out they were faggots.

>>715645010
There’s the case where they might respect you, but not find you sexually attractive.

>>715620468
fpbp

>>715645669
fallout new vegas

>>715643798
I've never really understood this argument. Are you seriously trying to make a prescriptive claim about why someone feels a certain way about gays based off of a study of 60 people? In the infamously least replicable school of "science" there is? I guess the goal is just to annoy with a baseless claim the person you're arguing with knows to be false?

>>715645656
let him be, it's his first day out of the closet and he likes the attention

>>715645669
Mojika

>>715620335 (OP)
It was a bit weird you had to cheat to get more social links.

>>715645701
Male feminist cucks love browns more than life itself, thougheverbeit

>>715646174
>Are you seriously trying to make a prescriptive claim about why someone feels a certain way about gays based off of a study of 60 people?
Do you understand how science and statistics work? Are you one of these people that, when facing presidential vote polls that interviewed 2000 people, say "hurr but millions of people will vote how can they estimate the result just from talking with a couple thousand people"? Like, what did they teach you in high school?

>>715620335 (OP)
Ichigo was friends with Rukia and he didnt care to fuck her. Its not like Japanese can't write platonic friendships with women

>>715645884
Oh ok I read that wrong, I thought it said homosexual men.

>>715620468
That’s right because women are my enemies

>>715646354
That was a pivot and we all know it

>>715646401
>reading "homosexual" everywhere
Anon if you don't want to be gay this is your chance to stop hating the gays

what a disgusting thread
gynocentrism and smug worship have ruined you people

>>715646338
64 is a terrible sample size if you're making a general claim about the entire male population, yes. Shocked this needed to be said. Even if it were true, the homophobic men being more likely to show sexual arousal than the general population still means the homophobes you're arguing with are more likely to be straight than they are to be gay, as being gay is still much rarer than being straight.

>>715646354
He did, he just wanted to fuck Orihime more and I don't think anyone could blame him.

>>715646754
They are not more likely to show sexual arousal because everyone showed sexual arousal. But only the homophobes were aroused with gay male porn, while the straight chads that respect gays were only aroused by straight porn and lesbian porn.

>>715646539
Not the guy you were arguing with, I don't care about what homos are or are not doing as long as I don't have to hear about it constantly.

>>715645018
>"normal people are fine"
>oh yeah? w-well here's a study of guys watching gay porn and getting their dicks measured that i have saved for no reason! so um y-yeah haha...
?

>>715646627
this.
blogposting/failed normalfag threads like this are admittedly a guilty pleasure for me because they can be comfy and occasionally someone will post some unhinged shit, but holy fucking shit this is so goddamn boring

>>715646754
Stop questioning the scientists that tell you that a man can cut off his penis and become a woman, chuddie

>>715646886
>I don't care about homos but they don't have to express their love in public or in media the same way straights can
So you do care about homos. Quite a lot. I'd say they live rent free in your head. And that's because you are a homo yourself and want to deny it desperately, so you turn to hating other people.

>>715646886
Okay so are you fine with straight couples being shoved in your face everywhere? Straight couples kissing in commercials or on advertisements?

>>715646869
>They are not more likely to show sexual arousal because everyone showed sexual arousal.
If you're saying that *every* homophobe was aroused by gay porn, then I just think this study is just garbage. That's way too convenient of a result to be true. Sounds like shitty pop-science to own the chuds.

why are all these newfags still deepthroating aquafag's bait

>>715646974
fr
Usually by now people will post their hookup failures/successes in long greentext format and everyone will congratulate or shit on the guy. We'll all laugh, maybe screencap if it's retarded enough, and move on. This thread is just people saying fpbp and leaving, or a couple sad fucks screaming into the void over nothing. Where's the fun? The action? The interesting experiences? /v/ is lame as fuck now

>>715647158
bored at work. I'm never sure if the aquafags are all just coincidentally retarded or if it's actually the same guy.

>>715647158
I gotta teach them somehow

>>715647124
If you dislike this study there are many others that prove a link, and none that found results disproving it

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1743609516003192
>Heterosexual men (N = 38) first completed a scale measuring their level of homonegativity. Then, they performed a manikin task to evaluate their impulsive approach tendencies toward homosexual stimuli (IAHS).
>IAHS positively predicted the viewing time of homosexual photographs among men with a high score of homonegativity. Men with a high homonegativity score looked significantly longer at homosexual than at heterosexual photographs but only when they had a high IAHS.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1743609516003192

I think Millennials / Zillennials were probably the most male-feminist, gender-neutral generation, and had this whole idea baked into them of mixed gender friend-groups, and are resultingly have both a) lowest fertility rate in generations and b) a kind of pleasant "well-adjusted attitude" to socializing with women (when the mixed gender friend group thing works out)

Zoomers are the incel reckoning generation. Everyone's going to have to come to terms with the fact that mixed gender friend groups don't work / aren't real, how marriage is a necessity otherwise everything devolves into chad-harem dynamics, to say nothing of the collapse of the post WWII order

>>715647283
The results disproving it don't get published because the people funding it don't want that result.

>>715647291
Fuck off

>>715647402
Source or are you just making shit up to fit your delusions again?

>>715647291
I'm a millennial and came to this conclusion. MeToo was a real eye opener on women.

>>715647402
You can self-publish. Anyone knows this. You clearly have zero background in the academy. You're just freestyling and making shit up.

>>715620468
Fpbp

>>715620335 (OP)
female characters in videogames have always being written from a male perspective, nothing wrong with that as long as you don’t think woman behave like that on real life.

>>715647268
Yes it is the same guy and falling for bait because you are bored is still falling for bait

>>715647291
I think some of this is in the resurgence of shows like The Office or Friends where everyone is just one big half guy half girl family. They show a false scene where everybody just hangs around and doesn't fuck except for maybe one guy after years of hanging out. It's so strange.

>>715620815
They are writing about occult themes channeles through mundane situations. Persona isn't a "friend simulator" unless your idea of friendship is as shallow as your understanding.

>>715646986
Is this how fags recruit for their cult outside of getting molested as children? How's this angle been working out for you so far?

>>715647503
>Source
The replication crisis. Studies like this only exist so that fags can accuse anyone they don't like of being secretly gay, so they're inherently untrustworthy. If the people conducting the study and the people paying for it want that result, they're obviously going to get it.

>>715647765
I have many friend groups like this. No one fucked, we're just friends and hang out weekly or monthly. Has been this way for 6 years, 8 years and 9 years respectively. When are things going to implode according to your incel science?

>>715620468
Friendship is generally a symmetrical relationship between peers who enjoy each other's company. Only males are capable of maintaining such relationship, females who can do so probably exist but they're extremely rare abnormal cases.
A relationship between healthy male and healthy female can't possibly be symmetrical like this, hence it can't possibly be a proper bond of friendship.

The most important detail about all those luggage lad cuckfaggots declaring that their time being an emotional tampon was actually a "friendship", is that basically none of them had a female sexual partner during their "friendship" with a female. Perhaps they have successfully deluded themselves, but it is obvious to outside observers that it were beta orbiters who really, really didn't get the message.

>>715647854
>both studies were cited hundreds of times by people verifying their results and approving them
>not one single study disproving it
>and you can self-publish so it would be trivial to disprove it if you were really confident
But noooo anon there is no way you are secretly gay and trying to repress it, it must be a conspiracy!!

>>715647008
Are straight couples being shoved in my face everywhere? I swear you seen more man/man or woman/woman than man/woman in commercials these days, and even when you do it has to be mixed race.

>>715647976
Answer the question, fagboy.

>>715621204
You sound so fucking gay
Kill your fucking self

>>715647976
>Are straight couples being shoved in my face everywhere? I swear you seen more man/man or woman/woman than man/woman in commercials these days
Most braindead post of the month.

10% of the commercials start displaying gays and you people go "WOW I LITERALLY ONLY SEE GAYS IN COMMERCIALS"

Then studies say the obvious - that you are secretly gay - and you accuse conspiracy.

>>715647967
>and you can self-publish so it would be trivial to disprove it if you were really confident
Retard. The point is there are financial incentives and fame to be gotten from proving homophobes are all secretly fags, and the reward for a result not showing this is nobody reading it. Soft sciences are a literal joke nowadays.

best thread on /v/ right now

>>715647291
All it took was for zoomers to see how faggy and lame millennials turned out to be when middle-aged to start course correcting hard

>>715647867
That's kinda our points, anon, these friend groups are a relatively new and bizarre thing. Not saying they can't work out, but sample size and societal health and all, ya know?

>>715648316
Yeah things get better, that's part of human progress. Back then we would divide men and women, blacks and whites. Now we don't do that because we are rational enough to realize worrying that much about other people's race or gender is stupid.

>>715648604
>Now we don't do that because we are rational enough to realize worrying that much about other people's race or gender is stupid.
Yeah and blacks still commit the majority of violent crime despite making up like 13% of the population. We did it, reddit.

>>715620815
>Shouldn't be writing about what they don't know
so true. People who aren't incels or haven't been through that before shouldn't have an opinion on the subject or make broad statements on what incels "are" or "should be."
Incels have the final word on their predicament.

>>715648687
>if we marginalize a population group that used to be slaves until little time ago, make it harder for them to get jobs or to even live in the same social circles, and ignore all the structural poverty around it, they will commit more crimes!
who would have thought

>>715648041
Can you tell me where straight couples are being shoved in my face constantly?

>>715648075
>10%
It was worse than that even in the 2010s. Now it's 2/3rd of commercials. And if you see a man and a woman, it's almost always mixed race and they're not doing anything remotely explicit like kissing, just the implication that they're together because they're talking about household finances or some such.

>>715648840
Why did you stop avatarposting

>>715648846
>Now it's 2/3rd of commercials
source?

>>715648914
It's faster to just post without scrounging for a picture

>>715648604
And yet, both race and gender relations are worse than they've been in the last 50 years. It's entirely possible to progress in the wrong direction which does more harm than good.

>men literally built the world since humans have been around
>women's contributions have been basically negligible
>women unashamedly extract resources, trading friendship and beauty in return (basically useless untangibles)
>humans exalt women so much you would think they were the ones who are constantly building, inventing, maintaining all societies that have existed throughout the world.
how did we get here?

>>715648914
I am not that person and I am running out of Aquas. Also just have more to do but I'm still reading on the discussion so keep it going.

>>715649010
Short answer is Jews

>>715620335 (OP)
lmao these guys are such fucking losers

>>715648997
>And yet, both race and gender relations are worse than they've been in the last 50 years
Worse for whom? It's better than ever for blacks, women and white straight men that don't want to dictate to people what their gender/sexual orientation should be. Maybe it sucks for the incels though but good fucking riddance

>>715649010
How did you contribute in building the world?

Do you at least contribute with friendship and beauty? Or not even that? Just fucking dead weight that keeps nagging people on 4chan?

Jesus you are on your knees fucking begging for (You)s

>>715639932
It's to show that he doesn't care and is above it all despite taking a break from his very cool and fullfilling life to nag at incels for having autistic incel opinions on an autistic incel message board.

>>715645669
Fuck off

>>715649101
>It's better than ever for blacks, women
The ones that have managed to convince themselves that they're going to rounded up and sent to concentration camps by the 4th Reich? And you're delusional if you really believe gender relations are better than they've ever been when the birth rate is collapsing.

>>715647937
Reminder, there was a reason as little boys we said girls had cooties, it was because we knew they didn't belong in boys' friends group and would ruin everything by making everything girly and about them.

today i say a very VERY beautiful black girls bros, i think im in love

>>715645669
Long Way Down(2025)

>>715648997
Source?

Any millennials course corrected and saw women for what they truly were in this thread right now besides me?

>>715649673
Did you call her a bloody benchod?

>>715649694
Yes there are many incel millenials and this website especially has many of them

>>715620468
I've had a mixed gender friend group since highschool, which I graduated from 10 years ago
>t. grew up in a rural town and stayed there
It helps that most of them have married each other I suppose

>>715637070
>You were the fallback guy. Lots of women keep some orbiter around in case things dont go as planned.
Sounds like an extremely poor plan considering it didn't work at all.

>>715649680
https://news.gallup.com/poll/1687/race-relations.aspx

>>715649970
>/pol/
lmao nice try

>>715620335 (OP)
>Incels
you did not use that word until like 2020, you fucking sheep

>>715649101
Ask any black guy if he got called nigger online more in 2004 or 2025, you'd be surprised at the answer

>>715650079
>unironically using Niggers per Year as a metric for relations
I like you

>>715645018
What's the possibility of a study that says the opposite would even be published? Only 50% of these type of studies are ever able to be replicated. That's why you're using something from 1996.

If a study doesn't fit in with the academic dogma in the social sciences they won't publish it.

>>715620468
>faggots seething in replies
women are objects used for sexual relief and reproduction
it doesn't have to talk, think, or do anything
this topic has been researched extensively and the best minds of the past centuries already reached a conclusion everyone is agreeing with, yet somehow the entire west decided to do a 360 on the question in the last 20 years and this brings us to the current situation (illegal migration, incel problem, male virginity, skyrocketing divorce rates, financial instability and division)

How did nips develop into such pathetic, shut-in, beta faggots?? I swear I feel like there isn't a single one of them who even knows how to speak to women, and all of them meek when it comes to interacting with them. It's like poojeet tier, but at least poofaggots TRY no matter how cringe-inducing it may seem with their "BOB & VAGENE BITCH LASAGNA!"

>>715649560
Yeah the 90s were great for race relations, remember the LA Riots and Rodney Kang?
>muh birthrates
Why do we need to have 20 billion people in the world? They need to go down at some point

>>715650915
Don't forget when a jury of black people let OJ Simpson off on double homicide because they wanted revenge against whitey (by their own admission, btw)

>>715650915
We need rising birthrates because we need it for the most IMPORTANT races that matter on the planet which are whites and asians. People who forefronted humanity and keep it running.

Niggers, poos, and dunecoons can fucking choke for all I care, and if they die in hellfire I'd fucking laugh hysterically about it.

>>715650374
>What's the possibility of a study that says the opposite would even be published?
100% you can self-publish.

>>715647283
Your study doesn't even fully conform to what you're saying. You didn't even read it

Aligned with the psychodynamic approach of homophobia, Adams and colleagues1 suggested that homophobic men hold an unconscious or denied attraction toward same-sex erotic stimuli. Yet, using different measures of sexual interest, the replication of this effect is difficult. Importantly, results of previous studies revealed a great variability in sexual interest among men high in homophobia, highlighting that all homophobic individuals do not necessarily have an impulsive attraction toward the

Then we are ignoring using 38 people. I'm not even seeing how many homophobics are there.

>>715620335 (OP)
Threadly reminder that we have normalized and industrial scale male genital mutilation but the #1 topic over gender relations is the lack of women represented in the billionaire class. This is all you need to know about the so called compassion & empathy of women and the Feminism movement.

>>715651285
It has to be peer reviewed and accepted into a journal. No shit i can just write up bullshit

>>715651663
No it does not "have" to be peer reviewed and published in a journal. That's to give it credibility off the bat. You can still self-publish a respectable study and if it is good enough people will see its merits and even peer review it after it is popular.

>>715620335 (OP)
It's possible (and surprisingly easy) to be friends with hags. I mean women aged 45+ (whether the man is young or old). A man and a young woman being friends is indeed not seriously happening.

>>715629031
They can just hire me as a consultant

>>715651079
Why do we need rising birthrates forever instead of a stable population? Japan is a mountainous island chain, why do they need to have a population any higher than 120 million? We don’t need endless growth and we don’t need mass immigration

>>715650915
Look at the absolute state of the UK right now and tell me browns outbreeding everyone else and taking over the world will end in anything but complete ruin. That is the exact thing the accelerationists want to happen.

>>715650732
Those best minds also thought that Filipinos, Indians, and other browns like (you) weren’t fully human and should be enslaved, maybe we should bring that back too? Food for thought

>>715652306
Browns also have rapidly falling birthrates, search it up. Ideally they would be falling faster but they are falling. The real problem is mass immigration, there is absolutely no need to breed like rodents

>>715649010
>how did we get here?
It has actually always been this way. This is why every single religion and nation all over the world that was remotely successful taught that women should not be listened to because all else being equal, men naturally always treat women better and evaluate them above themselves. It is hard wired into our species and all else being equal women have always been the privileged and treasured class throughout all history.
>>715649043
>Jews
Both yes and no. Despite that they're supposed to be a patriarchy, women have a lot of power in their society and Jews suffer a lot of problems with "divorce rape" and such too. But women are the vector that Jews use to infiltrate and poison societies. But if Jewish men could ever be "red pilled" we could actually cure Judaism. I'll go as far as to say the reason Jews always have setbacks and can never keep a good thing going is because of their women always pushing them to fuck everything up.

>>715651043
>because they wanted revenge against whitey
This shit still happens now, look at the Karmelo Anthony situation.
>because they wanted revenge against whitey

>>715652365
whiter than you muttoid

>>715652648
Luckily that kid was too retarded to even try to come up with a clever way of pretending it was self-defense, so the parents spent all of the donation money and now he needs a public defender kek

>>715645820
There is no such thing as a brown bull, nobody finds you short skinnyfat goblinos attractive, least of all your own women which is why native Americans and Asians are the only ethnicities in the US where the women are more likely to be in a relationship with white men than their own men

>this thread
Why do women want men to be their friends so badly?

>>715652525
Arabs and Africans are the only ones maintaining replacement rate IIRC

>>715652758
They don't, this is male feminist allies getting offended on behalf of women hoping it'll get them a crumb of pussy like always.

>>715652816
Arabs aren’t at replacement rate either, it’s basically just Africans at this point (who are black, not brown) and it’s only a matter of time for them too.

>>715620335 (OP)
True.
One, because it's impossible to be true friends with a woman the same way you'd do it with a man.
And two because there's a high chance one wants to fuck the other unless they are both super ugly.

>>715652685
So which color are you on that graph? We know it’s not blue, is it orange? Red? Gray?

>>715651043
>>715652648
I agree the motive of the jury of kang was stupid but OJ killed a Jew and a blacked adulteress.
Literally dindu.

>>715642330
>>715643798
Your avatarfagging is proof you will transition soon.

>le science
Nigger the reproducibility crisis is worst in psychology.

>>715643005
This is literally the same argument that /v/ makes every day, that if you get mad at lolicon stuff it’s because you yourself are a pedophile and projecting.

>>715653368
>he doesn't know aquafag

>>715647291
T R V K E

>>715653608
/v/ doesn't argue that if you get mad at lolicon stuff, it's because you're secretly attracted to lolicons.

>>715648840
Blacks commit more crime literally everywhere.

It's the genetic consequence of lacking resource bottlenecks which winnow out short time preference mentality and existing in largely sexually egalitarian hunter-gatherer conditions for millennia longer than the rest of the world, leading to female hypergamy and its consequences.

>>715653982
Wanna know how I know you are a virgin at 40 and blame women for it

>>715652541
>It is hard wired into our species and all else being equal women have always been the privileged and treasured class throughout all history.
Correction : subspecies. White men have treated women well throughout history. Asian and other brown men have not. For example, traditional white conservatives believed in “women and children first” and sacrificed themselves so that their wives could live. In Asia, women were seen as nothing but property and men would happily leave their wives to die since they could just marry another one later. Even today, in China and India, along with the rest of Asia, female babies are frequently aborted in favor of male ones due to an extreme son preference. As a result there is a lopsided gender ratio and there are millions of excess males that will never find a mate and are literally forced to be incels

>>715653774
Don’t be obtuse, it’s the same logic
>hate gays? You’re secretly a gay
>hate guys that masturbate to pedo porn? You must be doing it too

Not a single friend, father, or functional male I know has "female friends". It's them, their wife, and their male buddies. All of these men have children, mostly multiple children.

Pretty much all men I know with female friends are urban bugmen, either in an open polycule or a soft one. They are typically childless, typically hypocritical, and will jettison platonic relationships if they so much as get a whiff at sex. Think Nathan Grayson or gaming journos, they're almost all like this.

>>715654134
Because you're projecting your situation on someone else due to his post hurt your feelings?

>>715654305
You don’t have any friends and you were raised by a single mom, of course you don’t know any

>>715654423
you're*

Why are so many Filipino and Indian brown teenagers LARPing as white conservative patriarchs? It’s bizarre behavior, like what do they get out of it?

>>715620468
This is why women ruined Animal Crossing. You aren’t friends with the animals in Animal Crossing New Horizons, they are just set pieces in your doll house for you to rearrange.

>>715654280
>>hate guys that masturbate to pedo porn? You must be doing it too
I don't see this on /v/ very often. If someone says that to an anon sperging out in a loli thread, then yeah I think it's fair to question why they're in a loli thread in the first place. It'd be like if I went to /lgbt/ to talk about how I hate fags.

>>715654305
My gf's family is exactly like yours. Divorce, cheating and domestic violence runs rampant in their households even though they all follow the sacred rule of "boys can't speak to girls it's a sin!!!!!".

Meanwhile all friends I made from college are mixed gender and I have not heard one single case of divorce/cheating/violence in our circles.

When will chuds admit that their way of life is crappy?

>>715647867
No one fucked with you knowing* lol

>>715654572
>I don't see this on /v/ very often
That's because you are a tourist, stick around for more than summer and you will see it

>>715654134
>substanceless ad hominem
You're projecting your insecurity over your failure at succeeding within the male social hierarchy. Women feel no sexual tension around you.

Definitely en route to trooning out.

what is this trash thread? who are these people? are you kidding me? fuck off back to r*ddit you fucking normalfaggot niggers and never come back

>>715620335 (OP)
Friendship doesn't exist between people of opposite genders

>>715651836
What if the woman is like really fat

>>715654660
>male social hierarchy
Just a tip for you. If you say shit like this you are already outing yourself as a raging incel. Good luck next thread.

>>715654660
you forgot to mention he will never be as sigma

>>715650732
Yup, we already know ((WHO)) is responsible for giving women power over men.

>>715654583
https://ifstudies.org/blog/liberal-and-conservative-women-have-very-different-views-about-marital-infidelity

>>715654660
>failure at succeeding within the male social hierarchy. Women feel no sexual tension around you.
That describes every single person in this thread on both sides of the argument.

>>715654928
other men that voted for it?

>>715650732
the small dick energy in these quotes is powerful, except chad Robert Burns:
>What signifies the life o' man,
>And 'twere na for the lasses?

>>715652685
Anyone else find it interesting that the white and black population barely grew and the main problem seems to stem from everyone outside of us?

>>715655041
You know ((WHO)), anon

>>715655125
>small dick energy
trim your flaps

>>715655279
I'm a healthy man thoughbeit

>>715655350
Sure thing, Susie

>>715655398
I have really mindbroken you haven't I

>>715655127
Blacks are killing each other faster than they can reproduce now which is almost impressive

>>715633103
>If you find that your temperament and tastes and language is more similar to a womans, that just means youre a woman.
Here it is the fallacy of the queers.

>>715655570
This problem can be fixed by doing several things
>remove our civil rights
>war on black gangs, no arrest, complete eradication
>war on drugs in black communities
>war on gambling
>war on prostitution
>destruction of hood culture
But the first two being done should fix the rest instantly.

>>715654583
>Meanwhile all friends I made from college are mixed gender
Pajeet, I....

>>715655749
And muslims

>>715620335 (OP)
i've had female friends when i had a life and we were fairly close. However we weren't close like i was with my male friends. I didn't insult them like i did with my bros, didn't "hit" them and shit like that. You know the phrase safe horny, right? It's safe friendship if that makes sense

>>715655963
You know when I was in college and high school whites, blacks, and latinos were always fine hanging out with girls, they never had any trouble with dating. It was always the Indians and Asians that hung out in all male groups and were awkward around girls. Interesting given this thread’s demographics…

>>715655950
>war on black gangs, no arrest, complete eradication
This would work even if it was just slapping them all with a huge jail sentence every time they got caught. Worked for El Salvador. But it would never work here because it would immediately be decried as racist.

>>715620468
Notice how the longer the thread goes on the more retarded the replies to this post get
I agree, I've had a lot of female friends just ditch me out of nowhere. My male friends have never done that

>>715656390
Have our race do it to ourselves. They had whites put guns on their own race when Civil Rights were issued, do the same for our race. It'll finally shut our racist asses up for once.

>>715656387
Negro, your previous post, in standard English (provided we parse through the mistakes), means that you spent your college years exclusively around trannies.

Holy fucking shit this thread reeks of curry. rapeape needs to rangeban the entire Indian subcontinent ASAP

>>715657467
He obviously meant friend *groups*, people make typos. And you do have to admit that a lot of brown guys are never around girls ever.

>>715657013
How is the minority supposed to do that to the majority? Especially when said majority is backed up by half the country assuring them that they're not doing anything wrong and it's up to others to swoop in and fix all of their problems?

>>715645440
Most people have an instinctual revulsion to incest to prevent inbreeding. It's not the same situation at all.

>>715657535
4chan is becoming more civilized and you have to accept it. Maybe you should not have based your entire personality around being hateful

>>715657730
It’s civilized to shit your pants and scream for 500 posts about how much you hate women because they won’t have sex with you?

>>715657808
It's actually 500 posts of male feminist liberals and troons pretending to have girlfriends on the internet (again).

So yes, very incel coded thread.

>>715620335 (OP)
no man has ever forged a true friendship with a woman unless they're gay.

there's always underlying sexual tension one way or another and other ulterior motives

>>715657808
No retard I am arguing AGAINST the people that are saying that.

>>715658032
Yeah, the people who are saying that are brown ESL incels from India, the Middle East, and the Philippines.
>>715658016
That guy is a cringey libtard but he’s white and decent looking so he is infinitely more sexually successful than you, Rajesh

the redpill is realizing that white libtards are your allies against incel indians

>>715657689
The country stops supporting them.

>>715658259
You're a brownoid crying about another shade of shit as we human beings of European descent and 100% white skin laugh at the monkeys fighting each other.

>>715658549
Nope, but I sincerely hope they manage to destroy each other.

>>715658808
>of European descent
Kek I am literally one of these mythical nordic Europeans, you dream of being my descendant

>>715658549
Manosphere content is inherently brown coded, the future is white men becoming more and more feminist in exchange for having de facto harems while brown ethnic men worship Andrew Tate and other redpiller e-daddies to cope with their inceldom

>>715658808
Question 1 : When is the last time you had consensual physical contact with a woman that isn’t related to you?
Question 2 : Is your hand brown, hairy, and covered with curryshit stains under your unkempt fingernails?

>>715621204
Women like men that have partners because they are pre-selected. This is why the moment some guy who had trouble finding a girl gets a girlfriend, suddenly he becomes a lot more popular with the girls than before.

Female - male friendship can't exist. It has never existed in the past beyond "friendships" within the extended family, but that is an entirely different thing alltogether.

>>715629314
This guy is right. You don't have to go back very far into the past and basically all contact you had with people of the opposite gender was either within the family, or some form of business contact (i.e., selling something to someone from the opposite sex).

>>715658962
>the future is white men becoming more and more feminized so they won't breed and die out
FTFY

>>715659225
Black and white people were not friends either until recently

>>715659418
Because until relatively recently ethnic groups were by and large segregated from each other. Now, I'd even agree that friendship across ethnic lines is more difficult, as the more different we are from each other, the more difficult it is to form bonds.

The issue is that men and women are in terms of reproductive strategy just so far removed from each other that there is simply no overlap. Our psychologies are just too different. We can "understand" each other rationally (the way you can understand the behavior of a cat or a dog), but a woman will never "understand" you on a level another men could. She simply physically can't, it's impossible for her.

>>715659379
Brown countries have birthrates falling even faster than white ones proportionally speaking. Browns in white countries have even lower birthrates than the natives after a few generations. Brown boys lose their virginities the latest and are most likely to be incel, gay, or trans. Not to mention browns being short, effeminate, and ugly.

>>715659973
Okay let's pretend this is true. You can still be friends on a casual level. Be part of a group of friends with mixed genders. Go out every week, play board games and drink together, share a chat group. That's still friendship in my book even if you're not having a personal social link tier introspective journey into each other's feelings or whatever the fuck you've all been doing with your male friends.

>>715660020
This is why the powers that be need you to die out faster by sterilizing yourself willingly or sucking cocks.

>over 50 (You)s ITT just from reposting AI slop fed from PSL forums
Lmao thanks for the free reps losers, see ya

>>715660729
OP here I have literally 211 (you)s half of the thread is replying to me.

>>715642458
He's also 100% right

>>715658962
>white men becoming more and more feminist in exchange for having de facto harems
It's happening already!

>>715660772
Based, it’s insane how gullible these people are. And some of them actually think this is a “free speech” site full of intellectuals lol

>>715661053
>the ugliest white losers are on par with the average brown
Congrats

>>715660772
fucking aquafag

>>715658549
The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my ally.