Howdy, I'm Gonna Betrayou. I'd like to join your gang.

>>715622290 (OP)
Who was betraying the gang before guarma, though?

I dropped RDR 2 when it failed the mission I was on because Micah disgusted me after some shit when down in a town called Strawberry, I think, and I shot him in the head.

>>715622290 (OP)
He did nothing wrong though

>>715624151
Did he call someone a darkie? Did it hurt your feeling?

>>715624151
The fact it's painfully obvious Dutch and Micah are evil lunatics in the first 20 minutes of the game, but you're forced to work with them for the next 40 hours, then the game acts like it's a twist when they turn out to be evil lunatics, that really is insufferable. RDR2 was written like the audience has the intelligence of cardboard.

>>715624391
Im more wondering why everyone else wasnt more evil. Its supposed to be a fucking outlaw gang not a bunch of god damn gyppos

>make "open world game"
>none of your choices matter
>rail roaded along teh story
>you have to team up with this asshole whose coming betrayal was visible from space

>>715624363
Shut up, faggot.

>>715624904
>faggot
Youre lucky this aint Strawbrairy, pard. I'd shoot a man for that kind of wrongthink.

>>715625004
haha

>>715622290 (OP)
>I'm afraid you can only join our gang if support women's rights, trans rights, and the right for your wife to fuck a black bull sir.
>If you're ok with all that and are progressive then you can join our gang of cutthroats and criminals

>>715624651
Listen pardner. We don't take kindly to racism round these parts. Lenny, finish up with ma wife and get this bigot out of here.

>>715622290 (OP)
>Come on in, Cowpoke! We recognize Cowpokin as a legitimate form of expessin ones sexual identity and we also would like to acknowledge the Chipiwa Hotoo tribe as tha original settlers of this here land.

>>715624651
Yeah, but Micah is cartoon evil ala Trevor. He's in full psycho territory and most outlaw gangs would reject him.

>>715625234
>kills 100 lawmen
>just business
>kills a bunch of civilians
>i don't like this micah but oh well
>sees a couple buffalo get shot
>I AINT GONNA STAND FOR THIS

Micah was unironically a better character than arthur
>im redeeming myself (empties entire towns of their population), im a bad man, I must redeeeeem (continues robbing)
>you're a good man arthur morgan

Micah was the only outlaw in the damn game, he acts like an asshole and doesnt pretend to be high and mighty

>>715625643
Yeah, it was really weird that all the other "outlaws" were repentant and had hearts of gold and shit. It's hard to respect outlaws that are suspiciously close to modern day SJWs

>>715622290 (OP)
Micah is so comically evil, and in an actual gang of outlaws, and not the adult daycare that is the Van Der Linde gang, he would be shot for being a blatant liability. The writing behind his character is beyond juvenile, having to literally spell it out for the player that Micah is "a survivor" incase you were too fucking dumb to miss it during the 60+ hours of gameplay. I would have no problem with a villain being comically evil, but let's not pretend there's any hint of subtlety. Truly, a story and characters that can fully be appreciated by midwits.

>>715622290 (OP)
Why does video game hair still look so bad? That awful staticky crunchy look is jarring

>>715625643
Micah was a edgy tennage niggerfaggot who only was mad because his parents wouldnt let him go to the skinny puppy concert

>>715625879
This. Real outlaws would put a bullet in his head for informing on the gang to save his own ass.

>realistic cowboy game
>dutch's gang ends up killing more lawmen in a day than got killed in a year historically

>>715624391
I was surprised to find many people found Dutch genuinely charismatic and thought it was the brain injury that gave him his turn towards destructive paranoia. You know, rather than his blatantly obvious narcissism.

Similarly, Micah is obviously a bad egg, but they never pretend he's anything but a low functioning sociopath. I like him more because you do get signs that he is just smart enough that he suffers somewhat from the dislike his despicable nature provokes in his peers.

>>715625879
He's not that evil.

>>715624391
>then the game acts like it's a twist when they turn out to be evil lunatics
This literally never happens

>tfw the plan is working
Just a little more money and we’ll be free

>>715626794
Bro, I put 50k in the camp stash in ch2. why are we still here?

>>715622290 (OP)
it's never proven that he betrayed the gang you just assume he did because of his character

>>715624862
>>make "open world game"
>>none of your choices matter
these are not mutually exclusive retard-kun

>Saint Denis national bank heist
>surprise surprise something goes sideways who would have guessed
>?????
>end up on a tropical island fighting with niggers against a sugar plantation owner and the Cuban army

>>715624651
Its what I dont like about this game as a prequel. The first game implies that John and his gang did fucked up things, he was a hardened criminal trying to leave his life behind and change, which is why Redemption is in the title. Then 2 comes along and nothing the gang does outside of Dutch going crazy and Micah just being a total asshole is really all that bad.

>>715625879
>Missing the entire theme of the story
The fucking point laid out for 40+ hours is that Micah is a rotten snake willing to kiss any ass as long as it gets him ahead is the point. He isnt a "survivor", he is a narcissist whose actions would get him killed in any sensible company, hence he hangs out with lowlives and outlaws. Dutchs camp are "survivors", trying to make the best they can with the dysfunctional members who cannot into into the society because of what they are. The point isnt that he is comically evil and everyone looks past that: no one looks past that and everyone hates him for what he is you blind retard. Everyone except Dutch, who is just as narcissistic and that's what causes the downfall. He has built his following of sycopaths by fostering those who are down on their luck and sees himself as their saviour. Thats why he puts up with Micahs shit even when everyone is against him and doubles down on it. He is so high on his own farts that Micah is just another bad soul to be given refuge to in exchange for unquestioning servitude instead of someone who'll happily fuck everyone over to get even slightly ahead. Its not a 4d chess masterpiece, just a basic story of good intentions done for selfish reasons gone bad, yet you managed to miss that entirely despite dozens of hours of exposition. The story isnt that complicated, in fact its very in your face, but because of retards like you we cant have anything better.

>>715627801
yes but they shouldn't be

>>715628164
>we need to get to the tropics
>gets to the tropics
>immediately leaves

>>715628664
This fucks me up. John is constantly on the "Listen Mister, I've done terrible horrible things to people, things that'd make the devil quiver in fear over the monster I am" and then we find Dutch.....kills a woman......and the entire gang goes WHOAAAAA WE ARENT THAT KIND OF GANG YOU CANT DO THAT DUTCH, WERE A ROBIN HOOD GANG WE ROB BANKS AND TRAINS, WE DONT HURT INNOCENT PEOPLE! totally ruins the notion of "Redemption" and even in its own game ruins Arthur's "redemption"

>>715628164
absolutely cinema

>>715628707
you don't sound very smart

>>715629009
The problem with what Dutch did in Blackwater was it was a chimpout move. Real life mobs and outlaw bands had rules about legitimate targets, too, and that the rest of the gang would be shocked Dutch shot a hostage for no reason other than pique (and then never talked about it again) is not beyond the pale.

>>715628164
sounds familiar

>>715628707
It really hammers home the "RDR2 is for midwits" point that all you provided was a less concise summary of the story. You didnt explain how Micahs character was more nuanced than anon said.

Micah is an extremely unrealistic character in the sense that hes a cartoon villain, and its obvious to anybody that hes bad news. But hes not the only shallow character in RDR. Arthur is charismatic but hes also very very shallow in terms of motivation and agency. The story just happens to him and all the bad shit that happened later on was easily preventable.

But everyone is written like a retard. They sell this gang of goody two shoes progressives as some sort of badass outlaws but really its a very cartoony set of characters. We have girlboss Sadie who of course is a very badass woman that wouldnt be raped and killed at all. Like the story is trying to be mature but its written like its for children, which i guess are the primary consumers of Rockstar games, but to laud this game as some sort of achievement in videogame writing? Its entertaining but its just shlock

>>715623950
John's whore wife

>>715630270
it's also fucked up because everyone there could literally work anywhere else, they all have skills that could be used in society, Arthur especially. Arthur is skilled, he knows how to do everything, sketching, writing, ranching, hunting, skinning and butchering, cooking, as well as bounty hunting and horse care

>>715624391
Dutch is one of the main antagonists in the first game, which 2 is a prequel of, of course him going mad was obvious

>>715624862
>make open world game
>it's the best and most immersive world to explore ever made

Its kind of weird how when you finally finish the prolog and get to Horseshoe Overlook, Dutch just says
>Go out and get normal jobs but give me your paycheck
Its kinda based that no one does though and its immediately bank robberies and jailbreaks. Fuck laying low. I wanna rooty tooty fresh n shooty

>>715626358
you mean the concussion after the robbery? that's what I thought caused dutchs strange behaviour

>>715630483
nta but when I first started playing rdr2 I hadn't played rdr1 in like 10 years and forgot about everything other than the what the main character in the first game looked like

>>715627245
We need moar money! Arthuh!

>>715630773
it amplified his existing bad qualities and diminished his ability to make good decisions

>>715622290 (OP)
I don't understand why he was so angry and argumentative and combative all the time. I thought he was the most under-developed character of the bunch. The devs just needed a "dick" character for the player to hate, so they came up with this guy. Clearly just like that. And i don't understand shy they all gave bill such a hard time, considering how he fought and bled for them all just like everyone else. And didn't he come up with some good ideas, now and then, as well? The writing was so poor. It's like the devs knew they couldn't do too much with the story, due to rdr 1's story, so they just made everyone into total assholes and idiots and created a dynamic, where everything had to blow up sooner of later and destroy the entire gang, because the devs just didn't have a choice in the matter..

>>715631398
>I don't understand why he was so angry and argumentative and combative all the time.
Gosh gee Billy, why did the anti-white jew write the only blonde, blue eyed man in the entire gang of progressive robin hood outlaws as an entirely unlikeable racist sociopath? I just can't figure it out.

>>715631841
You may have a point

>>715629765
I think a gang of murdering robbers would admonish him the same way I asked for grape jelly and not raspberry jelly. What kind of retard gang of murdering thieves doesn't understand collateral damage?

>>715632165
most career criminals try not to attract attention

>>715630451
Arthur may be a cool character but he makes no fucking sense. He, like John, exist as these weird toddler characters who woke up with sentience one day. They were effectively raised by the gang but the player hits start and "wait a minute, stealing is bad though....." Like I get shaming the extortionate Jew, but where do John and Arthur's morality come from where that's bad to them? You killed 10 guys yesterday for a hundred bucks, squeezing a loan is the bridge too far?

>>715630451
90% of "sympathetic" crime drama is ruined for you when you wonder why they don't just get a job. It's even worse because low level crime really doesn't pay. You need drug trafficking or something for it ever be worth it. You'll make a thousand bucks mugging people and then get shot in the kidney and given fifteen years in prison. Could've just worked somewhere and made that in a bit.

It's fine if they're just fun sickos that like shooting people though. They've rarely got the balls to write that.

>>715632165
>>715632354
>most career criminals try not to attract attention
This, and while they weren't good dudes most historical outlaw gangs worked off at least a vague set of morals. Micah goes out of his way to gun down unarmed civilians left and right, and all but the most insane/desperate of historic outlaw gangs would kill him for that.

>>715628741
Kek

>>715633480
Arthur really wasn't all that put off by Micah's murder raid.

>mfw the wagecuck thinks we can make it to tahiti without living free and robbing L cornwall
>mfw I need more money

>>715624151
That mission left a bad taste in my mouth as well. Its far too excessive for that early in the story. It's the kind of situation that would make sense by Act 3 when they're in a more desperate situation, but there's no way in fuck murdering an entire town should have been glossed over like that, especially when they make such a big fucking deal about Blackwater.
>>715624391
Dutch doesn't come across as an evil lunatic in the story at that point, EXCEPT that there is, for absolutely no reason, some schizo rambling random events at camp that trigger far too early into the game where he claims Arthur will betray him. The kind of shit that shouldn't trigger until Act 3 or 4 at least.

>>715622290 (OP)
>Trusted ally turns out to be an undercover villain all along

kino trope

>>715632457
It's the cockstar recipe. They've done this since gta1. Rape and racism are bad and killing and thievin' are good.

>>715625643
They really should have toned down the genocide Arthur does in every mission but I feel like ADHDzoomers would turn the game off if they weren't killing waves of enemies every 5 minutes.

I can excuse outside of mission murder as non-canon but when Arthur kills 20 lawmen and robs people for $10 total profit it's weird as hell that everyone acts like he has a heart of gold.

>>715636058
well he backed down when confronted with a single mother

>>715636058
ludo narrative disco biscuits

>>715632457
That’s always been the weird dissonance with Arthur - he’s a cold-blooded killer with a notebook full of nature sketches and a heart that suddenly starts melting when the music swells. Dude goes from robbing stagecoaches and unloading on Pinkertons like he’s in Valhalla, to acting like loan sharking is a mortal sin because the guy coughed. It’s not “deep,” it’s inconsistent. Feels like Rockstar was scared to push the full outlaw path, so they made Arthur half Red Dead and half Nicholas Sparks protagonist to please everyone.

>>715625879
It makes sense for a retard like Dutch to have him on some dumb basis like "He's the guy you need on a fight" But why would Hosea want this moron around specially after learning the shit he pulled in strawberry specially if the group has the feds on their trail. I don't think Hosea and Mica even interact with each other in the game at all.

>Arthur shoots up blackwater before the game even starts
JUST ONE OF THEM THINGS
>Arthur shoots up Valentine at the end of chapter 2
JUST ONE OF THEM THINGS
>Arthur shoots it up again in chapter 3
JUST ONE OF THEM THINGS
>Arthur shoots up Rhodes at the end of chapter 3
JUST ONE OF THEM THINGS
>Arthur shoots up Saint Denis in chapter 4
JUST ONE OF THEM THINGS
>Arthur shoots up Annesburg in chapter 5
JUST ONE OF THEM THINGS
>Micah shoots up Strawberry in chapter 2
wtf he's so evil I can't believe I was coerced into shooting up the town with him :((((

>>715623950
wasn't it the irish girl who liked dutch? or was that a decoy, can't remember

>>715628164

>>715624391
>RDR2 was written like the audience has the intelligence of cardboard.
With how many people think the game was a masterpiece, rather than just a well crafted open world, they were probably right.

I recommend The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford to anyone in this thread wanting to see a more authentically human portrayal of Western Outlaws, they are paranoid and self-defeating but still men who are not caricatures like Micah and Arthur. I always enjoy reading people's interpretation of Jesse's character as it shows the wide breadth of opinions different people hold regarding his "morality". If you want a complex outlaw then Brad Pitt shows one perfectly in my view, the Van Der Linde gang could have done with trimming down and more historical influence.

the next game if there is one should be a simple revenge story in the 1860s-80s, like Gun, much less room to fuck it up with a pretentious revisionist plot about the decline of the west and mass murderers with a heart of gold

>>715622290 (OP)
Micha should've been the loyal but reckless asshole member of the gang later down the line. Makes zero fucking sense why Dutch haves him around other than "we need a guy that splits the gang up and make him a one note bad guy villain" Javier and Bill both were the reasons why they split the gang up it's just rockstars lazy writing made him a shitty obvious red herring. A twist like that would've made the story 1000% better and connect better to the first game

>>715623950
Nobody. The gang had become sloppy.
>>715630313
>Hey Arthur, thanks for taking my kid fishing and bringing money, food and protection for us, but now I'm going to betray you to the Pinkertons and if you die you die lol
Did you also forget that John was doing that bank robbery?

rdr2 is a spaghetti western because the plot and characterizations are a tangled mess of poorly structured and nonsensical writing

>>715638440
They do in the camp. Micah says something like "you don't like me very much?" and Hosea answers "no, I don't".

>>715644003
Most spaghetti westerns are way better written and structured than RDR2.

>>715628164
Guarma was going to be Mexico 2 but they dropped that idea.

>>715644115
yeah i meant it as a joke, as in spaghetti code

>>715640202
If I recall correctly, she loses her shit at Dutch and claims that she went to law enforcement but it's revealed that she was bluffing because she was enraged and drunk.

skipped the whole thread but I'll just say, outside of the setting itself the game doesn't feel like a western in any particularly strong way, might be the problem, you could shove the characters into any plot scenario and it'd feel the same for the most part, in my opinion

this thread seriously lacks any media literacy

>>715644331
that's sort of the premise, it's a "revisionist" western. im not sure what they are revisioning though because wild west vidya without fantasy elements are so few.

>>715644518
it's the premise sure but they still attempt to structure it like one but tend to fail

>>715644395
I wanted better media literacy for this game by having micha being loyal on your side near the end of the game as a twist instead of le generic bad guy

>>715644395
Okay I'll catch you later then

>>715644331
Partly I think it's the scale. RDR1's towns were actually pretty accurate to real Wild West settlements. RDR2 meanwhile has New Orleans being microscopic compared to its RL counterpart.

>>715644763
they bit off more than they can chew, awkwardly trying to compete with much more mature offerings of wild west movies and books. they only gathered praise from simpletons with no media literacy, because this is after all a video game and video games are not movies. i enjoy it for aspects outside of the plotline.

>>715645271
valentine is the stereotypical "wild west" settlement. i didn't need 20 more copies of that. i too have a soft spot for southwest settings but the lush biomes are comfy.

>>715644274
Milton mentions that she got picked up, questioned, didn't have anything worthwhile and was let go.

>>715645562
I did too, in fact I tried the game around release and gave up because of how much time it was wasting with arbitrary animations etc.

picked up again about 2 months ago and played 50 hours in around 2 weeks, I was utterly sick of the game by the end but I didn't hate all of the characters, the shooting was fun, it looked mostly good and the music was great, and the writing itself when not trying to be deeper than it was, was entertaining at least.

I wouldn't play it again but I also wouldn't say I wasted my time finally going through it, on PC this time of course.

>>715629009
>>715624651
Just because you're a criminal, doesn't mean you're evil.
In RDR2 you go beat up a family man because he owes the gang money

>>715646021
>In RDR2 you go beat up a family man because he owes the gang money
Yeah, but how did that make you feel, though?

>>715646021
>arthur: beats up a white dad without question or remorse while berating him
>also arthur: refuses to beat up a black man and is extremely polite to him

>>715646021
>but erm i give money to homeless fellas and help women's rights dutch

>>715646215
Annoyed because you shouldn't take money from criminals like have some sense

>>715646267
Innocent, down on their luck people have been getting destroyed by jewish usury since there have been jews. Still happens today. Very realistic.

Anyone:
>Good morning, Arthur!
Arthur:
>Holy shit, how have you not died yet. I hate you so god damn much
Hes like the most aggressive tsundere ever

>>715646021
Thats legitimate business though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtMvhK1kC5A

the most western moment of rdr2

>>715638440
>>715628707
>>715625879
>>715630270
>>715630451
>>715632457
>>715635315
>>715636927
>>715632480
because dutch is the leader of the gang and the central personality keeping it together, and hosea gets shot while there's still like 1/3rd of the story left? micah more than anybody both realizes dutch's instability first and feeds into it? classic manipulator shit? the game is literally about the series of events that lead to the gang dissolving, characters suffering the consequences of the mistakes they made isn't bad writing you nitwits
>GUYS WHY DOES THIS TYPICALLY BAD OUTLAW CHARACTER GET SHOWN TO HAVE SOME SORT OF INNER TURMOIL OR CONSCIOUS
han solo wasn't the first 'bad guy' with a heart of gold, contrasting character traits with character's position in life gives this thing called 'depth'. why the fuck do you retards want every videogame character to be 2D puddles repeating the same single personality traits over and over

>>715630270
>Micah is an extremely unrealistic character in the sense that hes a cartoon villain
kek I just know you are a spoiled bitch who was raised by his grandmother

I prefer to play artty boy as the sickest son of a bitch in the west. I'll hogtie and drop someone in the river for having the audacity to run while Im killing them.

>>715625524
>>kills 100 lawmen
>>just business
>>kills a bunch of civilians
>>i don't like this micah but oh well
>>sees a couple buffalo get shot
>>I AINT GONNA STAND FOR THIS

They did what with a buffahlo?

Why can't you fucking geeks just let people play cowboys without complaining about everything

>>715647559
RD2s a flawed but good game it's just a shame there's more holes in it than swiss cheese

>>715647559
i can't play cowboys and indians without killing and scalping indian motherfuckers

>>715647559
I don't agree with a lot of the holes people point at in the plot, the characters are flawed and contradictory by design, but fuck me Micah is just such an obvious antagonist/villain from the get go and "he saved Dutch's life" only goes so far when he starts wormtonguing the entire fucking camp.

>>715647626
This is a reasonable opinion.

>>715624391
>then the game acts like it's a twist when they turn out to be evil lunatics
It doesn't even try that, though. Just because you get to see the gang be betrayed doesn't mean you as a player weren't supposed to be aware of it until Arthur pieces it together and the gang stops being in denial. You know from the beginning things are going to go bad and who is likely to blame for it. It's a prequel full of western hero-villain tropes, if you think you were supposed to be fooled or strung along you're insane. Not everything needs an unexpected twist with zero clues beforehand, Shyamalan.

>>715626726
what are you talking about? the entire games is coming to grips with dutch's slow descent into madness and the B story is finding out that micah is the rat. both dutch and micah are retards from the beginning and if murdering the entire town to get micah out of jail and him becoming dutch's lap dog in the last 1/3 of the game wasn't obvious idk what to tell you. the story in rdr2 is honestly pretty lousy. i think they were banking on arthur turning out to be someone he didn't originally think he was would be engaging enough to carry the entire game. it's not

The gang was supposed to be smaller, it doesn't make sense that a criminal gang have a bunch of women and a child with them. The necklace Dutch have in the first game was a gift he gave to John to mark him as his protégé but he took it back from him

>>715647747
Colt was allowed to do that because he was a chickawawa. If Arthur did it, it would be a hate crime.

>>715649981
Micah was right when he said they should have cut people loose because they really don’t need people like Swanson or most of the women lingering around. It also meant Javier got to do absolutely nothing despite being one of the central characters in the first game’s conflict

>>715650239
yeah but did micah ever do anything to make the gang money? i didn't commit much of the game to memory but i don't remember him doing anything useful

>>715650624
Micah is the second best moneymaker after Arthur

>>715625524
>kills 100 lawmen
>just business
Yes? The lawmen is trying to kill the gang.
>kills a bunch of civilians
>i don't like this micah but oh well
They do a pretty big thing about Dutch killing a civilian girl in Blackwater and the gang doesn't do it unless they have to.
>sees a couple buffalo get shot
>I AINT GONNA STAND FOR THIS
That's Charles' thing. Arthur can let the poacher go.

>>715624391
dutch wasnt outwardly evil because that would go against the appearance he was trying to keep up. There is a hard shift in how he acts after he gets his head injury in the trolly accident. It's why a lot of people theorize he suffered brain trauma causing different thoughts

>>715650772
is that inferred from the ledger cause i never read that thing

>>715624651
saw this yesterday, why can we not have actual western KINO like this. I hate that whiny cunt Arthur Morgan.

>>715651315
this movie suffers from being too video gamey

>>715651015
Hosea's death is the reason Dutch went nuts, he was the only one who could reel him in

>>715647626
>it's a hole because i said so
retard

>>715651382
Why can't we have badass characters like Ben Wade or Charlie Prince or even that Pinkerton agent Byron, why settle for such a dull spiritless character like Arthur or the mega cuck John

>>715623950
Trelawney

>>715624391
>then the game acts like it's a twist when they turn out to be evil lunatics
This doesn't happen, the game never acts like it's a twist or expects you to be surprised.

>>715646508

>>715651837
because you have to play as Arthur for 50 hours, the main character is the blank slate self insert while everyone around him acts crazy

>>715628707
>The story isnt that complicated, in fact its very in your face
You typed this whole essay just to agree with me numbskull

>>715652661
>the main character is the blank slate self insert while everyone around him acts crazy
That's every GTA game

>>715651315
>mid-2000s remake slop
>kino
getcher head checked

>>715652607
>oy vey don't look at me, i was only providing a(n immoral) service to a willing (desperate) customer!
the drug dealers defense

>>715651315
Man, I fucking love the shit out of this movie. Charlie Prince and his Schofields made it. It was an all around very /k/ino movie.

>>715652845
the formula makes a lot of sense

>>715652661
Arthur is more of a retarded emotional meathead compared to the more cold mercenary protagonists that don't give a fuck as long as their paid

>>715622290 (OP)
He had the best drip hands down

tar lungs ITT seething and coping

>>715652862
ooga booga new thing bad

>>715624391
Micah was so obvious I thought it was a red herring but no rockstar is just that derivative

>>715652862
You haven't watched this movie so your opinion has no value.

>>715654005
it is MEGA KINO

>>715656132
derivative of what? real life? Micah was nothing but a total scumbag criminal

>>715655246
Hes a tsundere

>>715654005
KINO

>>715649981
Damn. Now i want to play that version. Would probably have been an improvement, if the story was smaller and more focused. Instead, they went big, hollywood big.

>>715622290 (OP)
I liked the positive interactions with micah
minus all the treachery and assholeness, he was the realist in the group and that's what I liked about him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63PM2thkNW0

>>715657695
>this is for that bird

>>715624862
Being penalized for shooting a main character and having my choice revoked doesn't really bother me because I can understand that, in order for the story to naturally play out as intended, they're not supposed to die at that moment.

>>715628741
Real tropics living has never been tried before. Have some Goddamn FAITH.

it's simply the best game ever

>>715622290 (OP)
O. B. Atrayu, but you can call me Gun.

How is online? Does it make for a better sandbox experience?

Love RDR2 for the outdoors hunting and fishing and detailed recreation of late 19th century America, but the story is kinda Yellowstone-y.

>>715664325
it has some fun stuff if you have a friend to play with
when it launched it had a ton of bugs like animals not ever spawning but they finally fixed it a year after launch