This is a mastercraft of its genre, but why did they need to punch themselves in the face and get a black eye by adding gay homosex (males) to keep it from perfection? Why did Tim do it bros?

>>715623503 (OP)
Yeah, that part really bogged down an otherwise fantastic sequel. That, and the humor wasn't up to par with Psychonauts 1.

>>715623503 (OP)
I love Psychonauts 1 and 2, to an extent, but bro, Double Fine is a San Francisco company and they have been progressive for a long time. Not trying to say that it is okay to have sodomites in the game or anything though.
Game was way better than I could have hoped for since it came out so long after the first one, I don't tend to count Rhombus of Ruin because it is an hour long VR "experience" even though it's canon.
Also An*ta was consulted during dev.

>>715623503 (OP)
I can't find the webm, but basically some fag at Double Fine shoved faggotry in straight up for shit and giggles, and Mr. Shitface was too busy to give a single fuck about the game because why should he.
Faggotry or not, 2 was mediocre in all aspects and I have no regrets dropping it.

>>715623503 (OP)
>game about mentally ill people
>has gays
I mean

Was that one black kid a tranny? I thought it might just be androgynous and the art style makes it hard to tell.

Ford gets Lucrecia
Compton gets Cassie
[Gay "relationship"]
But what does Otto Mentallis get? Paid.

>>715623503 (OP)
tim is a beta californian girl-dad male feminist
and while his writing has some charm its overrated due to the fact that game writing usually sucks.

>>715623503 (OP)
I only played the 1st one. Spoonfeed me

>>715626002
Second game provides the backstory of the founders of the Psychonauts that are seen carved into stumps at the campfire in 1. Two of the founders are homogay and even got ""married"", one being voiced by Jack Black and the other being Lili's grand-uncle.

>>715624925
I dont remember the humor of the first very much, but it probably got some smirks. I did enjoy a lot of the humor from the 2nd as well, but I was groaning whenever I had to deal with the gays.
>>715625664
Fair point, but if it were the case, Raz would have cured their faggotry, but I guess he isnt a miracle worker.
>>715625682
Don't think so, just a black teen.
>>715625924
He got animal pussy
>>715625939
I don't know if I'd say the game writing sucks, but its obviously for kids. Until the fag stuff is shoved down your throat with the 2nd one.

>>715626002
there's this one level where you need to restore a psychonaut's mind but the theme is based around him being gay and the ending scene is a gay wedding. Its full of rainbows and stuff its actually a pretty fun level mechnically

>>715626474
Bob's Bottles is the one with the homo wedding, Psy King's Sensorium is a fun world that barely mentions gay. The rainbows are a thematic part of the whole Vision/Sight theme with the spectrum of visible light.

>>715626474
I don't think I got the impression his level was theme'd about him being gay, it felt like drugs and pink floyd album cover, it just happened that of course the rainbow stage NEEDED to be about a fag. The real stage theme'd for the guy being gay was the island and seed one.

>>715626662
I thought Bob was a good 3-dimensional character and his level was a great exploration of his psyche. But that also plays into the criticism that 2 is way less fun than the first, since everyone's mental illnesses are treated with too much respect for us to get another milkman conspiracy.

Helmut would have been the coolest of the Psychic Six if not for the whole Bob thing. Didn't even realize he was Jack Black until much later. His song was pretty cool. No idea what his psychic specialty entailed though.

>>715623503 (OP)
FYI you can powerwalk through that ONE scene that forces Raz to walk slowly by spamming the punch button. It skips most of the "vows" and throws you into the seed cutscene immediately.

>>715626871
Hopefully if they do a third game, they time skip a few years to make raz older and the 2 gay guys die of old age so they don't have to shove them in again.

>>715627403
That's assuming Horvitz doesn't shatter his voice box or worse.

>>715626871
Helmut's specialty was being an empath, it's why he attempted to talk down Lucrecia first. During his shows he'd project his synesthesia onto the crowd so they'd be able to also taste color, see sound etc etc...

>>715625924
>But what does Otto Mentallis get? Paid.

Based

>>715626474
you retard

>>715625939
>we will never get a Brutal Legend 2.

Best RTS of all time.

>>715626474
No?

Psyking's level is about getting his sense and memory back together.

He doesn't have anything that screams gay in his level, although with hindsight you might the sense based on his husband says "You know how I get without you around" And theres a few Figments based on his husband.

>>715625445
Watch PsychOdyssey. It was TIM's idea to put a gay couple into the game, but he wanted to make Ford Cruller gay. It was someone else on the team who suggested they change it to the literal who characters

>>715628680
Holy shit, bullet dodged. Ford Cruller remains the most based character in Psychonauts.

>>715626842
>everyone's mental illnesses
The overarching theme was trauma and unhealthy methods of coping. No one was mentally ill unless you get woke and call alcoholism an illness.

>One hydrokinetic gypsy gives six powerful psychics PTSD
How did she do it?

>>715629413
ask a couple texans

>>715629413
If you best friend murdered hundreds of innocents and you though you had killed him to stop it you'd get fucked in the head too.

Frankly their in pretty good shape.

>>715629413
I hated how they acted like she was two different people to absolve her of her crimes at the end, even though the normal non-crazy one was kind of a bad person too.

>During development, certain members of Double Fine wanted to have Raz say "What a thrill" after he climbed the ladder in the Flea Circus section, in reference to the ladder scene from Metal Gear Solid 3, but Tim Schafer shot the idea down.
What a killjoy

>>715629918
Weird. That seems like exactly the kind of joke they’d normally be making anyway

>>715628680
>make Ford Cruller gay
that would have stopped them from including the "nona is fucking evil" shitshow
maybe it would also have stopped them from making raz a fucking victim all the time

>>715623503 (OP)
I started this game a few weeks ago and quit after about 6 hours. It's pretty creative, with some nice art direction and really good character animation. The platforming feels relatively good... but man it's like the devs are all artists / writers and nobody was there to remind Tim to make the game fun.

The amount of cutscenes and dialogue is just too much. Stopping the action every 30 seconds for exposition was really dragging during the "tutorial mission". They also did one of my most hated things where you have a platformer game with separate levels and they have collectibles you can't reach until you unlock moves later in the game. I want to be able to clear the level I'm on with the tools I have! I don't want to backtrack a whole level for 5 stupid collectibles!!

The combat is TERRIBLE. I don't know why really. The punch animations are big and flashy and you have a lot of options, but somehow the whole thing just doesn't work. You can't read enemy attacks well enough and the combat just feels awful.

As the story unraveled it just started to get really preachy and annoying. It was just so full of that 2020 covid period's ultra sensitive "mental health" vibe that I hate. I quit after the casino level.

One major plus that I enjoyed was the hub area, psychonauts headquarters. Just really well done hub area. I loved that you could use your psychic powers on all the adults and they would react in funny ways to being smacked, jumped on or hit with furniture. Those little details are a nice touch, but don't make up for the fact that the game is plodding, patronizing and just not very fun.

>>715623503 (OP)
>gay people are in it and i'm scared

>>715623503 (OP)
western developers just cant help themselves.

It was made during absolutely peak ESG funding deals and Timmy took a lot of them.

>>715623503 (OP)
am i the only one who thought this game was a total rip-off? after all these years of imagining what the psychonauts hq looks like its basically just a generic modern globohomo corpo with black women around every corner
also fuck double fine for selling out to microsoft and hiring anita sarkeesian

>>715628414
In this AAA environment? It'll be somehow even less finished and have microtransactions.

>>715623503 (OP)
The recluse gay man abused by his drunken mother who killed herself was the most interesting course in the game retard. Jack Black is what made it cringe. In the last decade he pretty much ruins anything he touches now.

THE EGGS

>>715631472
>Mr Cruller's Wild Ride never ends

I want to FUCK Dogen sister, that is all

>>715623503 (OP)
only way to stop microshit from cancelling it like all their other games

>>715623503 (OP)
>This is a mastercraft of its genre
>inferior to 1
if you say so

>>715626474
Anon this level was mainly about getting a band back together and a 70s acid trip. Nothing actually gay happened until literally after the final boss is beaten and the level is over.

>>715630761
Tim wasn't even the director for the majority of the game's development. They wasted a shit ton of time with a director who sucked at the job, Zak McClendon. Dude was still micromanaging combat mechanics years into the project when they still had only completed a few levels. And he constantly shot down discussions about story and themes, when high concept story-focused levels are the whole fucking point of Psychonauts.
Zak got shitcanned and Tim stepped in to get the team back on track, but by that time it was too late to make any big changes. Most of the work was salvageable but the game could have been a lot better if Tim was in charge from the start. Hollis' Mind and Loboto's Labyrinth were the levels they made with Tim in charge, and they're really night and day in terms of quality and story direction compared to everything else.

>>715631752
but I saw a rainbow and it triggered me

LET'S GO GAMBLIIING!
PUT IN ALL ON RED!!

I own both these games on steam, should I play them on my 'ecl?

>>715631973
sure why not

>>715628680
James also influenced things a lot, I think Tim officiated his irl gay wedding. That documentary was insane, I cant believe Double Fine could exist for that long the way the company was run.

>>715631973
First game will run on a potato-powered toaster. 2 will probably run fine as well.

>>715631852

>>715631797
lol dude I watched the first few episodes of the Double Fine documentary and watching that Zak guy in meetings had me flabbergasted... like every idea he shot out was TERRIBLE... how could someone so creatively bankrupt, so joyless, with such little love for video games be given such a position of power??

It really explains how so many games can be so bad. Just utter nepotistic San Francisco retards getting to direct games.

>>715630823
Not scared, annoyed. Male fags shouldn't exist, its disgusting. Women fags is hot, unless they are trying to be "butch".
>>715631654
Why can't they both be mastercrafts?

>>715632136
Kek

>>715632282
I think there's a good reason you rarely see dev documentaries for modern games these days. It would only confirm everything we already know to be wrong with modern gaming.

You actually watched the mpreg scene in the game and didn't look it up on youtube, right?
I remember being in the thread when we found the easter egg. It was the funniest fucking shit.

>>715632282
in my headcanon Tim just picked him because Zak McClendon sounds a lot like Zak McKracken

>>715632493
You just know Pendelton was laughing his ass off at this while the allies and trannies look in horror

>>715632383
>Both 7,2

Made for each other

I didn't like that the two new abilities were new reskins of two old abilities.
If they had been smarter about keeping the number of abilities the same, the two new action slots would have helped.
>wait this section needs GrappleHookA!!!
>ok now switch back to GrappleHookB!!
fuck off....

>>715633286
Or maybe everyone found it funny. I saw no one bitching about a harmless shit post about Raz giving birth to Loboto.

>>715623503 (OP)
I was willing to look past the issues because the game was high quality and had a story I cared about. Frankly I find the bigger nag for me to be how the game softened up overall. Psychonauts 1 had much darker humor, which fit with the dark themes in the worlds. Psychonauts 2 still has dark themes all across its levels (cough cough grulovian tiananmen square moment, and everything involving cruller) but the humor is far lighter and it sometimes sticks out like a sore thumb. The pinnacle of this is the intern gang, which is meant to play the same role as the camp goers in the first game but man does it fall flat.

Oh well. Like I said, in spite of the issues Psychonauts 2 is up there in my favorites. One huge save for the game is the fact that the dark themes are directly part of the story (compare the story relevance of napoleon to any of the psychic six) and the story as a result is... VERY good.

>>715623503 (OP)
>This is a mastercraft of its genre
Its a direct downgrade in just about everything besides graphics. The nasty homo gays are distracting you from the real problems.

>>715635667
Dare I say it I did not find the gays all that out of place in a game about weirdos and entering their brains. Which is impressive because I almost always find gays hamfisted into games in a really awkward way.

>>715623503 (OP)
Most of the game was a downgrade from the actual good game. Except platforming, that was an improvement but who plays Psychonauts for the jumping.

>>715635982
me

>>715631472
>GRULOVIA
>GRULOVIAAAAAAAAAAA

>>715636220
>FORD CRULLER MURDERED YOOOOU

>>715632282
Zak was a game director from a big studio that worked on like CoD and shit which Tim brought on ironically because by now he has learned that he cannot manage a project for shit.
Its just a shame that Zak was the guy who got the job.

>>715623503 (OP)
I find the skittles squad of the interns was a worse addition.
And more clearly forced diversity.

>>715636451
>World is filled with unconventional skin tones and bungled anatomy
>One of the interns is just a straight-up black guy, and also the ONLY black guy
My biggest gripe.

>>715636451
I liked the interns

>>715636698
That's the only good one

>>715623503 (OP)
Leftists worship gays and blacks and sexually castrating children, they have to put it in all their work or they lose credibility with their peers.

>>715636783
this your guy?

>>715636698
Hollis is made for sucking dick

>>715636986
Agreed.

>>715623503 (OP)
Psychonauts shows how little we have explored interesting game genre mixes. Psychonauts is like part point and click adventure, part 3D platformer, with the tiniest bit of RPG DNA. By that virtue, it's quite unique.

You get the interactivity and focus on story from an adventure game, something wholly lacking from all other platformers. You even have town / hub areas with NPCs to interact with, dialogue options and things to upgrade which feels almost a bit like an RPG. Then the levels are obviously full of platforming challenges. Each aspect brings the other parts upward, making it a more interesting game.

As navigating a 3D space is sort of core to all 3D video games, I consider the 3D platformer to be sort of the basis of what makes any 3D game fun... we should start by having fun movement! By making any game a platformer, it becomes more interesting. Because all humans love climbing shit and collecting shit.

Take the Witcher 3: where the world is just a series of dull terrain maps with buildings slapped on them, most of them copy pasted with nothing but junk loot to find, have zero verticality and zero joy to movement. But take the Witcher 3 world with fun moving / climbing mechanics and suddenly you have to design for verticality and your world is instantly more intriguing and worth exploring. Assassins Creed has figured this out, which is why despite their shit shallow gameplay and writing, they sell millions and are overall pretty fun games.

I'd like to see more genre fusions with 3D platformers. I think we've missed out on a lot of fun and cool game ideas with so much focus on hyper realistic settings and game experiences that would make double jumping and wall jumping nonsensical.

>>715636164
You psycho.

>>715636698
I wouldn’t say I liked them but they didn’t bother me. It was more that they were very clearly part of an initial pitch that got scrapped somewhere along the way mid development
>super important in the Lady Lucktopus level when you’re being introduced to all these new characters
>they all have a signature PSI skill, most of which you learn eventually
>they’re almost all encountered by one of the main levels
>almost as if they would have been helping you in that level and giving you their PSI skill
>this never comes to pass and they don’t really do much of anything past the first 1/3 of the game

It’s really noticeable when you think about it

>>715629918
>certain members of Double Fine wanted Raz to say "what a thrill"
It was a transwoman community manager