Thread 715634141

>DK Bananza has frequent frame drops on banana pickups and camera movements
>certain bossfights and actions cause the fps to drop to 30 for the entire fight
>this causes actual slowdown and makes destruction effects look very choppy
>it uses double buffer v-sync which means it has both jarring drops straight from 60 to 30 and massive input lag
>bizarrely, the game performs worse in docked mode, because Shitendo, in all their infinite wisdom, decided to have CPU clock speed higher in handheld mode
>VRR (which can't even be used on docked) doesn't even work properly
We are only a month into Switch 2's life and this is already fucking awful.

>>715634141 (OP)
Donkey Kong and unplayable levels of input lag, name a better combo

>>715634141 (OP)
Now watch the same people who shat on DKCR HD's performance defend this deapite it being way worse.

>>715634141 (OP)
>>715634264
>Nintendo
>60fps

OoT only ran at 15fps

>>715634141 (OP)
>frame drops from 60 to 30 constantly
that sounds absolutely awful. funny how Nintendo Foundry defends it.

>>715634141 (OP)
ALREADY DEBUNKED
>ALREADY DEBUNKED
ALREADY DEBUNKED

Nintendo
>4k!!
>60fps!!!
>120Hz VRR!!!!
>DLSS 4!!!

Reality:
>1080p with res drops
>drops to 30fps and lower
>VRR only in handheld and doesn't even work properly
>FSR1

what a fucking joke, what the hell happened?

>>715634635
Not exactly news, if a PS5, PC or XSX game ran like BotW or TotK on switch 1 it would be absolutely savaged, and let's not even get started with pokemon SV, "it's ok when nintendo does it"

>>715634141 (OP)
Maybe stop fucking making games with primary gimmicks that invoke an otherwise needless degree of physics/voxel/particle fuckery, Nintendo

>>715636336
I too, think the gmod aspects of TotK were a net negative on the overall experience

>2025
>double buffered v-sync
why?

>>715634864
Enshittification. Also seems like le fabled nintendo is not going to avoid the talent crisis either. Looking at >>715634141 (OP)
it looks fucking ugly.

>>715634141 (OP)
The Switch 2 itself is basically just a Switch Pro. The “2” is just marketing, because they know it will sell more if they treat it like a new console.

>>715636580
To make it as laggy and shitty as possible

>>715634864
I will play docked so it doesn't matter.

>>715636689
It literally has worse performance docked due to lower CPU clock speed. You can't make this shit up.

Holy fucking shit, this is BAD

>>715636894
Good thing I'll wait for the reprint with all the DLC and patches included in 2 years

>>715636894
This is only the second first-party game for the Switch 2 (not counting the paid tech demo or S2 Editions of S1 games), jesus CHRIST. And we're just a month and change into the system's lifespan.

>>715636894
Apparently the game has zero physics either. The terrain just floats in air if you destroy supports beneath it.

Red Faction Guerilla had better destruction tech almost two decades ago.

>>715636894
i dont understand why they do this double buffering shit

>>715636894
>one segment in the entire game

And yet it'll still sell millions, proving most people don't care.

>>715637938
It does this frequently whenever there is a lot of destruction. It also has constant stutters on pickups and camera changes

>>715637938
>one segment

>>715637990
>it's good that people have no standards and just validated $70-80 for Nintendo games

>>715636894
I havent seen seen a single map that doesnt look like a rollercoaster tycoon 2 set piece. is every level this ugly?

Is this before or after the day one update?

Astro Bot already has thousands of physics objects on screen along with fluid simulation and destruction, all while maintaining 4k 60fps locked and having a much better artstyle.

Why the fuck is DK Bananza doing a fraction of the physics while looking like a fucking Gamecube game?

It is so fucking funny that people unironically thought that Nintendo could compete with Astro Bot

>>715638209

As long as its fun, thats all they care about.

Look at Pokemon.

>>715636336
>stop innovating! make slop like everyone else! >:(

>>715634141 (OP)
You lost.

>>715634141 (OP)
B-BUT MY TENDIE FRIENDS TOLD ME IT WAS FASTER THAN AN XBOX SERIES S!

>>715638323
i think the art style on astro bot is way worse personally

>>715638450
Astro Bot is easily the best looking 3D platformer art style and graphics wise and it’s not even fucking close

>>715638392
innovation is when copying older games

>>715638562
well for example i think ratchet & clank 1 has better art style, its a matter of opinion bro

>>715638323
>Maps and enemies made entirely out of voxels
>Fraction of the physics
I knew Snoys are technologically inept, but damn.

>>715634635
>lock it to 30 fps for a more bespoke experience

isn't this and mario kart world both switch 1 ports? like, they were literally originally meant to run on the switch 1 but then turned into "switch 2 exclusives"
the fact you can even game share this with a switch 1 console is really telling
it's like they just decided to simply not let these two games run on the switch 1 because they knew their rabid cultists would buy a new console and the slop (now costs more than the $60 price tag btw) anyway

>>715638562
AstroBot looks so much better than Bananza and it's not even close.

Astro Bot is genuinely one of the best looking games of all time, and that it maintains 4k/60fps with thousands of physics-driven objects on screen is absolutely insane.

>>715634141 (OP)
This is OP's life for the next 6 months lmao

>>715637990
tendies aren't "people"

>>715638757
>(now costs more than the $60 price tag btw)
But its okay when Sony does it.

>>715636894
it looks ugly too
even mario odyssey looks better because it doesn't have this lame "destroy the entire level" gimmick

>>715638323
Astro Bot is level based
DK is open world.
Not trying to defend it but yeah

>>715638846
8 more years, buddy. Have fun.

>>715638957
Both are level/hub based, Astro Bot has some massive stages and a huge amount of physics, destruction, and fluid simulation happening simultaneously while running 4k/60 compared to 1080p/30 of DK

>>715637873
yeah, i noticed that during the treehouse preview
looks horrendously bad but tendies are literal shit eaters who will defend it anyway

So what are you guys gonna do when the Famitsu sales list comes out and this sells 2 million?

>>715634864
They knew their console would sell regardless of performance, and they were correct.

>>715638806
Yeah, I wish the gameplay didn't suck though

>>715638806
>thousands of physics-driven objects on screen
I'm almost convinced this is someone false flagging as a snoytroon, I don't think even they're this tech illiterate.

>>715638884
>m-muh snoy
hymen-broken jeetendie

I'm not sure why retards convinced themselves that the S2 would be some kind of powerhouse. It's basically what I expected; PS4 level GPU performance with more CPU power and more memory.

awww sweet, another
>macaco thread
cope n rope

>>715639253
>more memory.
But much slower memory.

>>715639168
Astro bot has far deeper gameplay and better level design than any Nintendo platformer

>>715639175
That's straight from the DF review you fucking numbskull. Astro Bot actually does this all the time, where it doesn't even really serve any purpose than to flex its technical prowess.

>>715638989
>8 more years
of what, my continued, unbroken streak of not spending a single dime on anything nintendo related?

>>715639439
No, of Nintendo outselling everything.

>>715638562
Everything about Astrobot looks great except Astrobot.

>>715639518
How does that relate to them getting any of my money

>>715638227
yeah because everything is made of voxels

>>715639340
Memory capacity > memory speed
Unless it's running at GDDR2 speeds, it's not going to be a bottleneck for what is already a relatively weak machine.

>>715639815
It doesn't, but your continued rage at their existence and success will be funny.

I just checked TikTok and barely anyone is talking about this game and most of the people who are are making fun of the graphics and performance. Definitely going to be a huge flop outside of Japan

>>715636894
The rocks look like they were made by gamefreak.

>>715640089
cope

>>715634141 (OP)
every nintendo game runs like shit in certain areas, that's nothing new. you either wait for patched deluxe version for switch 3 that will run at smooth 120fps or play it now while its fresh and everyone discusses it

>>715640181
Not Mario 64, that game is perfect.

>>715640089
>TikTok
Go back

>>715638712
there seems to be very little actual physics sim in DK? terrain doesn't collapse from gravity, it just floats in the air
astro bot stood out because there were so many particles etc that react realistically to gravity, fluid sim, etc.

>>715639896
What rage tendie, the voices in your head aren't real you know.

>>715639380
>far deeper gameplay
moveset is barer than any 3d mario

>>715640352
>>715640412
You can make fun of TikTok but it’s easily the largest platform and has surprisingly good game discussion

>>715640689
>surprisingly good game discussion

my roblox party chat says bananza is mid (their mom didn't buyed them the game)

>using tiktok
>for game discussion

>>715634141 (OP)
It's not a hardware issue. It's the fact that they're using FSR1 instead of either a newer FSR or the fucking DLSS that the hardware was made to take advantage of.
An engine patch for temporal upscaling would literally solve every single performance issue.

Holy shit it's the Echoes of Wisdom nonsense with the 60 to 30fps drop. What a fucking failure.

>>715636894
the mud wall animation is so stiff

>>715634571
20 fps but yeah and still played better than this shit. makes you wonder how they're so fucking bad and why anyone spends money on nintendo products anymore other than they feel the need to.

>>715634141 (OP)
>>it uses double buffer v-sync
Jesus Christ. That's worse input lag than heavy frame generation.

>>715640383
intentionally turning off gravity on isolated platforms != not resolving voxel physics
this is especially true because resolve collision on voxels is expensive with the standard AABB methods

>>715634864
Whats vrr?

>>715634740
STILL NOT BUYING YOUR FAGGOT MACHINE
>STILL NOT BUYING YOUR FAGGOT MACHINE
STILL NOT BUYING YOUR FAGGOT MACHINE


Duskbloods will be fun in 2028 on my pc.

>>715636894
Damn thats almost as bad as Bloodborne or Knack

>>715641292
No kidding, Bayonetta on PS4/XB1 has four frames more of input lag compared to the 360 version due to using the buffered v-sync bullshit.

I would test the input lag on this piece of shit, but I'm not wasting my money on a console and game I don't care about.

>>715637938
levels of copium unreachable by humans
boys I do believe this nigga is an alien

>>715636894
Atleast it doesn't drop from below 30, but yes, this is awful for a new console and a game that isn't a marvel

>>715639149
>throw out all good will for short term gains
>hope brainless DoNothings don't wanna get off the couch and organize their life so they keep queing up for mario kart and pog the fuck out while their mom just wants them to find a new job.

>2 spammed threads
The discord is fucking mad

>>715641361
Imagine VSync except it gives you the advantages of Vsync (preventing screen tearing) at any framerate (as long as it's not over your monitor's max refresh rate) and without the input lag.

>>715634141 (OP)
A Switch 2 Pro won't fix it, a Pro would have a CPU that is barely better than the base model.

>>715638846
>tendies

>>715634141 (OP)
>>DK Bananza has frequent frame drops on banana pickups and camera movements
>>certain bossfights and actions cause the fps to drop to 30 for the entire fight
I just watched the DF video, and it seems that not only is that the only boss fight where it happens, but that the sustained frame drops are actually fairly infrequent in actual gameplay.
The only issue is that the double buffer means that when the game would go to like 55 FPS when picking up an item or loading, the entire game goes to 30 FPS which fucks up the smoothness, whereas with proper VRR it'd be a tiny hitch.

This game's minor performance issues are going to be overblown by this board no doubt. They're going to treat a 1 second drop like it's Monster Hunter Wilds all over again

>>715636894
so... this... is the powah... of the Mario Odyssey team... woah

>>715641583
That's because it's likely a drop down to like 45-59 FPS. The double buffer syncs any drop below 60 down the highest framerate [60 * (1/2)^n] the game can sustain. This is 60, 30, 15, 7, and so on. But VRR would handle the dips with ease

>>715643502
>>715643784
Non-retarded posts are wasted on a retarded thread.

>>715634264
Holy shit this is brutal

>>715634264
Considering the entire gamer community endlessly shits on framegen for increasing your input lag from 15-20 to 35-50, the 100+ms here should be considered utterly unplayable.

>>715636894
>8 years in development
>targeted for Switch 1
>took so long might as well release it for the Switch 2
>and it STILL can't keep the target frame rate
Holy fucking shit

Tendies:
>GRAPHICS DON'T MATTER! ONLY FUN DOES!
Also tendies:
>btw you have to buy the new $500 machine, it has so much better graphics! what are you, POOR?

>>715644307
It is, that's why TF feels so shitty and sluggish. Both high input lag and tons of excess frames of animations. The Wii U version actually has much lower input lag (as well as DKCR), and the SNES originals are extremely snappy in comparison to both.

>>715636894
The FPS aside this looks absolutely awful.
Like some fan made level

>>715644540
does anyone know why the Switch version has such insane input lag then?

>>715644953
it was outsourced to a support studio

Organic

>>715645690
touch grass, faggot.

>>715645690
It is organic. Everyone’s laughing at how bad it is, especially after Astro Bot skyrocketed the standards for the genre