Thread 715637073

AI has put the final nail in the coffin of video games.

>>715637073 (OP)
any notable indie, AA, or AAA title caught using LLM's would get shunned and review bombed though
no one wants slop in vidya

And I'm never going to buy any of them, deal with it.

>>715637256
Everyone said the same thing about microtransactions 15 years ago, and look where we are now.

How is increased productivity bad?

>>715637408
Layoffs

>>715637408
Decreased quality ≠ increased productivity. You could achieve the same exact thing as AI by hiring retarded jeets who will work for 1/10th the salary and deliver 1/10th the quality of work.

AI? More like no buy.

>>715637256
People like to say this, then 99.99% of people don't even notice AI assets and then 3 out of every 4 games publicly accused of using AI didn't actually use AI.

People who say "they can tell" have only noticed the lowest quality examples and overlooked everything else.

>>715637256
meanwhile in real life, steam currently has a "sweden sale" with blatant AI composited art as the banner lol
no one cares

>>715637331
>Dying
>Dying before launch even
>No faith in support beyond a few weeks or months
>Low-effort slop sent to die is potentially about to be pushed out of the market by SKG
>Massive fatigue
>The most popular microtransaction games are well-established and anywhere from 7-18 years old
>Most new games are specifically low-quality gacha aimed at asian coomers
>>715637408
It has ultimately decreased productivity. Learn a proper tool that actually fits into a production pipeline and doesn't displace more powerful tools that give better results and don't need fixing in post.
AI is ultimately just a less powerful use of the noise function.
If you need bad, unusable for production results fast, such as when working under a shit manager, then it is "productive".

>>715637408
IT JUST IS OK

>>715639332
>It has ultimately decreased productivity.
Yeah, that's why they're growing in usage every month for 2 years straight amongst both small indie and massive studios. Because it's not working. You're so smart, anon.

>>715637073 (OP)
That's a very narrow minded take.

I played a game with some assets that used AI and honestly I didn't even care or notice

>>715637408
Because all these games are "Under $5" slop made by thirdies to try and generate passive income. The increased productivity is going towards producing waste. A.I. isn't a bad thing but giving it jeets is.

>>715637913
>smartest indian

AI bros, what form of entertainment is next to go?

>>715645075
prostitution.

>>715637913
Why does it look so shit and overfiltered though? An actual everyday photo would look better...

>>715637073 (OP)
>AI has put the final nail in the coffin of video games.
Sometimes to usher in the new, the old must be laid to rest

>>715637331
Microtransactions have been almost defeated. Only few evil companies like valve, ubisoft and ea sell them

Soon you won't be able to tell at all ai from reality. This is the final peak of evolution, but of course you S O Y S are seething because you think we NEED to see your deranged deviantart shite and coddle you that you'd be great artists if it weren't for that pesky ai. Visionaries see this as the final frontier, we are transcending to the next level. We don't need to create green landscapes like >>715637913 when we have done it millions of times, now we can gave the robot composit a perfect image from our work. And it will go far greater than this. This is exciting times if you're not pathetic

>>715646018
You will always look and smell like shit though.

>>715645772
it looks like the bing image generator with its deep fried look overtrained on stock art thumbnails, you can tell by how it tries to emulate the jpeg crust on noisy subjects like the grass

>>715646018
Ai is soulless

>>715637073 (OP)
99.99% of those Ai games are just shitty porn games

>>715637073 (OP)
Is this any surprise? If you're only pumping out garbage then of course you're going to be able to pump out more of it this way. It means absolutely nothing because the handcrafted non-slop games still aren't using it.

>>715637073 (OP)
Surprise, there's a lot of shovelware on Steam

>>715646253
>>715646375
You are right. People are supporting art like Cyberpunk 2077, Baldurs Gate 3, Expedition 33, Kingdom Come 2 etc. I don't know how well the slop sells. Probably not by much

>>715646120
>>715646172
I bet you would have killed yourselves over the invention of the camera too. Oh do give me the copypasta reddit response about how it's not the same

>>715637913
Did all you fucks simply forget that shoops have been around for three decades?

Entertainment has hit post-scarcity. Ironically, the glut has become so severe that it's not resulting in increased competition to win your attention, but instead everyone is settling for barely good enough because consumers discern less than ever: they have an unlimited buffet in front of them now.

>>715637073 (OP)
>>715637256
>>715637328
>>715637638

Deal with it chuds

AI will be used for EVERYTHING, whether if you like it or not

>>715645772
not like its something you would have ever paid attention to if nobody claimed its ai.

>>715637073 (OP)
If it's for textures, sure.

If it's for in-game art assets or music, no, thanks.

>>715648525
I noticed that fucked up porch instantly when opening steam, tho.

>>715648940
I think AI could make great assets for creepy games.

>>715649129
You can tell this was humanely crafted.

>>715649205
I'm just saying it has more uses.

>>715649129
That mrs potts. WOULD.
She had such a sexy voice.

>>715637073 (OP)
And how many out of those 7,818 titles are low effort porn games? Everytime a big game is caught using AI it makes it to the news and causes a shitfit. Not saying it doesn't happen but some AI generated textures here and there is in no way comparable to what people think of when they hear AI game.

>>715637073 (OP)
>1 in 5 games released in 2025 (20%)
>7% of the entire steam library
Are you telling me that approximately 14% of the current steam library has been released in the past 6 months?

>>715649692
Fuck I meant to put 35%. It doesn't matter anyway, there are more games released in the past year that I didn't considered in my calculations anyways.

>>715649860
It's retarded how much shovelware there is released each year.

>>715650258
These statistics are what made give up on working ony own game.

>>715650258
Killing Steam Greenlight was a mistake

>>715650575
If you would have made a game in 2012 Valve wouldn't have put it on Steam. How is being able to get onto the biggest store a bad thing for you?

>>715637645
This. It's like complaining about CGI in movies.

>>715637073 (OP)
T-Thanks gaben!!

>>715637256
>I don't care if the game is good, only that it follows my politics
Go away political tourist nigger

Piracy is the ethically-correct choice

>>715637408
Now we'll see even more zero-effort slop clogging the store.

>>715651136
This.

>>715642417
>Because it's not working.
Correct, it's because it's cheaper, you think the turd worlder making "Grand Theft Runner: Red Nights at Federico's" cares about quality?

>we gave an infinite garbage making machine to brown people and guess what they're flooding the internet with infinite garbage
Wow, many beutifal futur of gaming saar

>>715637073 (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_(computer_programming)

AI = Actually, I'm not buying it.
>>715637408
>People lose their livelihoods with no prospects of replacing it.
>Bad for the environment
>The already huge flood of cheap, low quality garbage will become 1000x worse
>Sifting through the trash for the few actually good games made by a actual people who cared about what they were doing will be even harder

>>715637073 (OP)
>"2 more week and Steam will freeze to death!"

>>715650909
Interesting example, because 90% of CGI nowdays is shit thanks to outsourcing to pajeets, liie seriously, compare movies like Pirates of the Caribbean and Transformers to the shit hollywood shoves down our throats

>>715651024
It's shunned not because of whatever strawman fallacies were conjured in your tiny little brain, rather it takes zero effort on top of the poor quality games that are going to flood on steam, and I'm posting as someone who supports indie games. Retarded newfaggot.

>The slop machine... is making slop?!?!
Shocking news for double digit IQ retards

>>715651094
If you didn't make your game then it's not worth buying, simple as

>>715651625
lol, you lost AI won bigly.

>>715650801
There was a certain time window we missed where you could release your game on steam easily while not being instantly buried by hundreds upon hundreds of slop games released that same day.
I'm not spending thousands of hours on a project just to have a 1/15422 chance for having my game get noticed, let alone become financially successful.

>>715651625
>on top of the poor quality games
If the game was poor quality and slop, you'd just tell and not get it because the quality is poor. The fact you need the game to be "caught using LLM" for this instead of simply doing that proves you're a politicalfaggot.

>>715652027
>Jej now all games will be made by pajeets using gpt, how do you feel chud?!
I'll just replay all the good games, be sure to pay $80 for you shovelware anon

>>715637073 (OP)
>They used a camera to take a pic of the monitor

>>715649458
I have seen enough porn art of that BBW hag to know I totally would.

>>715645075
Woman, woman in general, they will have tons of cats, we will have AIfus connected to teledildonics and humanity will be inevitably breed artificially inside plastic bags, soon the world will have no sense but you will have a living futa Rouge the Bat inside your smartphone so it will not be so bad after all, games will be generated as easily we generate pictures of our waifus with six fingers nowadays

>>715652478
>AI waifus will be the thing that kills white birthrates
Based, sorry for calling you a fag Mr Musk

>>715637073 (OP)
>>715637408
>increased productivity
lol

>>715637256
Peak Cope recent Tomb Raider Remasteres used ai upscaled textures and people loved it. Ai is here to stay

>>715642956
>>715651136
>>715651171
Asset flip games existed already

>>715637073 (OP)
How many of those games are shovelware or asset flips with ten total lifetime sales?

>>715651446
>>People lose their livelihoods with no prospects of replacing it.
>>Bad for the environment
>>The already huge flood of cheap, low quality garbage will become 1000x worse
>>Sifting through the trash for the few actually good games made by a actual people who cared about what they were doing will be even harder
Wow you described technology!

I have virtue signaling retards, whether it's reddit or from here
get fucked, AI is a tool and using AI is the smart thing to do
>waa waa slop
right, because the industry wasn't full of slop a few years ago, get bent nigger

>>715652825
None of those posts implied that asset flips didn't exist, they're just saying that more low quality games will fill the store at faster rates, hope this helped

>>715637073 (OP)
What if you just… don’t disclose that you used AI? If you don’t just vibe code the whole thing and only use it sparingly, is there a way to prove you used AI for your game?

>>715652969
>I have virtue signaling retards
How many?

>>715652664
The simple fact of the matter is that a good programmer directly writes the contents of their head out.
AI generation involves the AI generating code, which you then have to read, verify and correct. Which is fundamentally slower.
You can make an argument for AI producing better autocomplete maybe, but it's definitely not going to win any productivity awards in making actual code.

>>715652664
>non-profit research group
so which side is paying them?

>>715652909
Regulating technology is good actually

>>715637256
No, you don't understand, AIs will make my video games a reality! And they'll be good somehow!

>>715653241
Removing technology is good actually, there is no good amount of demon rune magic crystals

>>715652969
the problem is not the Ai, the problem is the lazy fucks only using Ai and copy pasting everything without touching or accommodating it for it use, if you tell me that they have sued AI to mdoel tables and chair i have no problem, but using,Ai to create sprites and have basically 4 ro 5 different art styles in the same game its just fucking lazy

>>715653129
If you're a good programmer you can instantly tell when code is shit and why, that's like saying a writer can't notice bad writing right away.

>>715653079
If you do it right, sure. But the average AI gen game is some retard going onto novelAI's site, paying them and generating garbage in the exact same art style as every other game, because the goal is to make a quick buck from suckers.
I have no problem with people who use an offline model like illustrious, manually train a LoRA on the type of art they want to gen, go over everything to ensure consistency and redraw parts it fucked up. But nobody does that lmao.

>>715653364
Let me guess - you look at your keyboard while you're typing to check what keys you're pressing. Retard. One pass of writing is a lot faster than waiting on a shitty tool, then doing a full audit, then rewriting half of it anyways.

>>715653375
>exact same art style as every other game
This is the part I don't get. You LITERALLY just need to prompt the name of an artist and the art style will change, and yet every online generator is 90% filled with default art style pictures. Most luddites think AI can only do 1 art style because of that. Are people retarded?

>>715653521
>He needs a keyboard
Yikes

>>715637073 (OP)
I own 500 games on steam, still have zero games with genAI lmao.

I'd rather delete my account than buy AI sloppa.

>>715652969
>using AI is the smart thing to do
But studies show it is slower than just doing shit yourself in many tasks. Studies also show that the "additional context" shit is a scam with no actual results. Hundreds of billions invested for an anime tiddie generator and slightly faster googling. We were never going to run out of anime tiddies, and taking 2 seconds to google something instead of searching for 5 seconds is not noticeable, especially when it willingly lies to you and cant parse sarcasm so you have to waste time to verify.

We could have nuclear power to energize homes across the nation for pennies. Instead we have a slop producer when there was more artistic media than you could consume in your lifetime right now. Next time you gen something, you might as well flush $10 down the drain.

>>715637331
>and look where we are now
The only game I've played in the last decade with mtx was TF2 and when I bought that game it didn't have a store. I don't care if games are using them, because I'm still able to play games that don't.
>but it still exists!
so does OP but he doesn't need to add my cock to his sucking schedule

>>715653521
No I get paid to program you worthless twat. I am familiar with my code and can instantly tell if the AI is being silly and not up to spec.

>>715652867
99% hentai sliding puzzles and spot the difference games

Yeah and 99% of Steam titles are trash barely anyone plays.

>>715653364
>If you're a good programmer you can instantly tell when code is shit and why
You dont code, lol.

>>715637073 (OP)
Generative AI is already making video game dialogue better! Check out:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3595850/City_of_Spells/

Funny how AI shills never point at good games made entirely with AI, or any in general now that i think about it, at best they point at remasters using AI upscales thinking it's the same as Rajesh prompting "anime puzzle slider with anime big titties and vegene" and shoving it on Steam.

>>715652969
>AI is a tool and using AI is the smart thing to do
Not when the tool is an active detriment to the work you're doing

>>715637073 (OP)
AI is just the art equivalent of using a popular engine instead of learning to program yourself
whenever you play a unity game you can instantly tell you're playing some low effort slop. They all play the exact same way

>>715653709
I also don't think he's a programmer. The amount of times I've had to whip out a profiler only to realize GCC mangled the assembly in an amusing way is more than I can count.

>>715646636
Actually yes, it seems that most of the internet has forgotten about it, which is really fucking dumb.

>>715653860
buy an ad stupid zoomer

Instead of using AI to churn out generic assets for games why aren't we using AI to make NPCs you can have actual conversations with beyond premade dialogues? You'd think RPG devs would be all over this

>>715653628
>studies show
Are you actually saying this unironically
>muh energy
Oh right, of course you are, you're an NPC. This is a video game forum, NPC, arguments about wasting energy make no fucking sense here. Our hobby is wasting energy

>>715654024
The problem is that all these NPCs have dementia, i.e. the memory of a goldfish.

>>715637331
microtransactions persist because how spammed they are
are you saying ai will be accepted when we just start spamming it MORE

>>715637408
It is if you produce excrement.

>>715637073 (OP)
Besides retard reactionaries no one really cares if a few assets or background text is AI generated. People only make a big deal about shit like what The Alters did because they piss and cry about everything.
The problem is, and has always been, if the game is good, if the game is interesting, and if the AI contributed to making it better or worse. At this point in the technology it will almost always make it worse. But of course there is the balance between how much a small piece of background art or text actually mattered to the quality of the game.
Now if your whole game is AI generated, or all of your art is AI generated, then there is a problem, because AI is just not good enough to produce a good quality product. It might be cheaper to do it that way, but its going to affect the overall quality of the product.
There is a massive difference in filling in small details and doing the whole game that way.

>>715653567
>You LITERALLY just need to prompt the name of an artist and the art style will change
Even that is more effort than the people making these games are willing to spend.

>>715654024
Turns out AI isn't very good at any of the cool things they said AI could be used for.
But boy can it churn out slop.

>>715637408
who cares if productivity is up when the end result is bad?

>>715654024
There's a mod for Morrowind that does that. /v/ seethed about it last time it was mentioned

>>715654024
That would require a modicum of effort to design an actual game around it and AI only attracts absolute gutter trash that want to expend the least amount of conscious thought possible

Are there any curators that only list garbage AI-assisted games sort of like the Sweet Baby Inc curator did? AI shit is way worse so it deserves it.

>>715654210
Yeah i actually agree with this

>>715637256
>no one wants slop in vidya
You already get slop in vidya, it's just slop made by humans and it sucks balls too.

>>715654056
>Are you actually saying this unironically
You faggots love to site shit like easily botted polls about how people totally cant tell what is AI or not, then when an actual researched article surfaces showing that the AI hype is bullshit, you cry foul? Lol.
>Oh right, of course you are, you're an NPC. This is a video game forum, NPC, arguments about wasting energy make no fucking sense here. Our hobby is wasting energy
If you didnt have to pay so much for energy, you could have more money which means you could have more games. Unless you pirate everything and are living off NEETbux, it effects you.

But you know this, you just dont have an actual argument so youre trying to deflect. So I ask you, where are the good AI games, jeet? Its been three years and you all claimed that it would speed everything up tremendously. Where is it?

Heh, should have listened when you had a chance

How do you justify paying $80 for a game no one made

>>715654024
It would only really work for generic, irrelevant NPCs
Or you make a game about people with goldfish brains or have gone insane

>>715654403
>where are the good AI games
Why are you asking me? I'm busy making coom image sets. That's my new hobby, spent 100s of hours doing that. And deepseek gens stories for those sets, currently I'm making a harry potter style set with art by Ishiwatari Daisuke.
If you want to make games with AI I suggest you go do that. That's the neat thing about AI, anyone can use it. Except for seething luddite faggots who keep waiting for somebody else to make a product for them to consoom

>>715654740
lel as expected, be careful with your clitty

>>715649403
this will be a future being, created by AI to rule over us

I await you my liege

>>715637256
>no one wants slop in vidya
You won't care as long as you can jerk off to it, or there's a political message you've been demoralized into quietly accepting. The last decade proves this.

>>715655057
That sounds like projection ngl

>>715655098
>what is gacha?
>what are VNs?
>what is Undertale?
>what is Mouthwashing?
Two for the former, two for the latter.

>>715655397
I have never played any of those

>>715637256
>any notable indie, AA, or AAA title caught using LLM's would get shunned and review bombed though

You wouldn't notice because you're retarded. This is the same argument people who dislike procedural generation bring up "it needs to be handcrafted", but they don't realize that no person manually puts down trees or grass since the past 25 years. Skyrim? The stones, clutter, trees, grass, ground textures and brushes are all just automatically placed.

>>715655483
>This is the same argument people who dislike procedural generation bring up "it needs to be handcrafted"
I think that people are talk about boring radiant quests, not grass

>>715655442
Doesn't matter, two extremely popular genres (for gooners) and two extremely popular games---one an act of ideological subversion about how monsters deserve empathy too, and you're a psychopath if you play games like they're games; the other a feminist piece about how men are inherently either evil or incompetent.

>>715655917
Uh ok?

>>715655969
>demoralized
I already guessed.

>>715656001
How?

>>715637331

Unfortunately this post is right.

>>715656096
Safe bet. Post people, even most who claim to be "anti-woke," already are. Thank you for the confirmation, anyway.

just look at the new releases on steam, like half are dogshit slop
none do well

>>715655917
I too feel mildly baffled that so many posters been playing those games.

>>715656265
I think you're just posting for the sake of posting

The only games I played this year are KCD2 and EX33.

>>715637073 (OP)
There hasn't been a good release in over 2 years, gaming died well before this slop came out.

>>715656361
>mildly baffled
It's more like a disappointing reminder of how and how badly gamers lost a decade ago.
>>715656376
And you?

>>715656502
Idk, i'm just confused by your answers

>>715637408
Productivity does not equate to quality and even if quality was maintained somehow, the people using it are not passing down the reduced cost of resources to the consumer so there's no benefit to the end user.

>>715637256
>He manually makes his textures from scratch
>He draws his own concept art
K

>>715646018
you should "transcend" your head out of your ass

THIS PRODUCT CONTAINS AI-GENERATED ASSETS
How long before the warning label makes its way around?
>>715652305
>>715652969
>>715656265
Learn to english

>>715637408
The savings aren't shared with the customer, otherwise AAAA would be $40

>>715654148
More like gaming consumer base is so large that even if a lot of people stand their ground, somthing will eventually become the norm because of uninformed retards accepting it. It happened with micro transactions, it happened with payed online, it happened with always online games, it happened with digital only platforms and it'll happen with AI.

>>715649403
Can AI even do this sort of stuff anymore?

out of the current 20 recent "new and trending games on steam, 2 seem to use AI, one is friendslop and one is porn (didnt click, capsule is obviously AI)

on the new releases (didnt sell as well) 5 seem to be using AI
honestly the premade asset pack slop is way more of an issue, like 12 of them use poorly edited asset packs

>>715656586
How so?
>>715656901
>Learn to english
Oh no, my muscle memory glitched and typed "P" instead of "M." May the ridicule be unending...

>>715637073 (OP)
How many of those games were shitty unity/unreal asset swap pieces last year? This reeks of the whole
>Over 50% of gamers are woman!
>Yes we included Candy Crush, why you ask?

You didn't think things could get worse than procedural generation and asset flips, so here's AI generated, which is kind of like 2 in 1. I'm sure helpful autists will track and tag this garbage at least.

>>715654024
There's a game that does that. You're a vampire and have to convince the residents of a town to let you in their homes.
They are all AI and have different characteristics

>>715656901
tldr; In no circumstance you need a "this is AII-generated" warning label or "this game was caught using LLM" wake-up scandal.
LLM will produce bad games. As a discerning consumer...you don't buy bad games. Don't buy it because it's bad.

>>715637073 (OP)
I'm supporting AI because it will kill AAA studios way faster than you think

>>715637073 (OP)
I don't get it. why are anons hating on AI?
It's a great tool that helps you quite a bit.

>>715654024
i dont want to talk to fodder more than one time

>>715654024
You think you want this but you don't

>>715657926
luddites would rather hate on it than figure it out

>>715637509
as a consumer, why should that concern me?
i just want as much good games as i can play. and if AI can give me good games, i get what i want

>>715658802
Consider
The companies are laying off people. They have less staff to pay. But you'll still be expected to pay FULL PRICE for the game, despite it costing less to make.
That should concern you. You're paying the same for a product infinitely cheaper to produce.

>>715657926
Because there are multiple studies now showing that it hinders productivity in most use cases. Its best (advertised) application is low standard gooning and shitposting. Its actual best application is in medical fields, but that isnt being invested in compared to making slop machines. If it wasnt for obnoxious fags like >>715658701, it wouldnt be nearly as hated

>>715658802
>and if AI can give me good games, i get what i want
But this isnt the case because the vast majority of people relying on AI dont have the drive or ambition to actually make anything of value. Hence why there isnt a single half decent AI game in 3 years now.

>>715658802
Publishers want you to pay 70 dollars for games that are easier to make. You're being ripped off.

>>715659176
you will be left behind if you won't figure it out this year

>>715659176
>Because there are multiple studies now showing that it hinders productivity
Source? A lot of people in my company uses it and they all love it for how great it can be used, especially if you know how to prompt and do a bit of prompt engineering on the side it can really do wonders for you.
>ts best (advertised) application is low standard gooning and shitposting
That is not true, you can do amazing things with it on the fly and it can be a game changer but you have to know how to use it first and understand the craft behind what you are trying to apply it.

>>715659507
>Source? A lot of people in my company uses it and they all love it for how great it can be used, especially if you know how to prompt and do a bit of prompt engineering on the side it can really do wonders for you.
Yes, it is designed to make you think its efficient. It isnt because it willingly lies and you need to verify everything. See >>715652664
>That is not true, you can do amazing things with it on the fly and it can be a game changer but you have to know how to use it first and understand the craft behind what you are trying to apply it.
There isnt a single half decent AI vidya in 3 years time, despite claims that is speeds up dev time by large amounts. Why? Most small scale games can be done manually in 3-4 years, there should be quite a few AI games that are good by now if it increases dev flow that much.

>>715659417
normies already accepted 80 dollar games, it's too late to go back

>>715659479
>this year for sure!
My boss has already agreed to start doing in-person interviews for new hires because its far too expensive to train them on how to actually code. The AI cant do anything complex without shitting itself and/or immense tard wrangling.

>>715659960
No shit retard. The problem is, there is 0 reason to hire idiots who still refuse to use AI for their daily tasks.

>>715637256
I love that you artcel patreon milkers are going down like the retarded brats you are, yelling, crying and shitting your pants.

>>715659417
you sound like an entitled bitch.
cant buy it? dont buy it.

most of this is about art assets right now
you see the ones using generic mainstream models from a mile away and for the few where you can't tell visually, I don't care

>>715660163
>The problem is, there is 0 reason to hire idiots who still refuse to use AI for their daily tasks.
There is, because it actively slows down the code process. The AI can boilerplate shit from SO, thats literally it. Which is not an improvement because you could already copy and paste from SO within seconds long before AI. It literally takes longer for a competent coder to use AI for complicated projects than just doing it themselves.

I use Jules to delegate random easy tasks in my game project and it's really comfy just having a bro doing things like that even if it wouldn't take me long to do it myself, it's the programming equivalent of morale girls in nip offices. Noncoders will never get it.

>>715660264
>I love that you artcel patreon milkers are going down like the retarded brats you are
Most artfags worth a damn make more now than they did years ago though. Also you dont need to be an artfag to have standards.

>>715660373
No one competent just asks AI to code for them. It's an assistant that can pull details for you without you having to waste time on reading the docs. You have a very outdated and/or retarded outlook on AI.

>>715650909
Indiana Jones 4 sucked.

>>715660475
>It's an assistant that can pull details for you without you having to waste time on reading the docs. You have a very outdated and/or retarded outlook on AI.
And you must read the docs anyway because it willingly lies and makes shit up. You are trying to hype this up, I am telling you Im in the industry and it does not actually increase workflow, rather it bogs it down and/or makes more errors. You are trying to convince me that the shit I work with every single day works differently. It doesnt. You dont code if you think it does, or are entry level. Dont know what to tell you.

>>715637509
Why care? Lots of jobs have become obsolete over human history, why do game devs deserve special protection?

>>715652664
If you know how to do the thing you want to do you don't ask an AI to do it for you, you luddite morons. You ask it when you have no fucking clue about how to use a new framework or language, and iterating over the replies is a lot faster than having to read a metric ton of documentation.
t. one of the few people alive that still has a functional brain

>>715660668
>And you must read the docs anyway because it willingly lies and makes shit up
Yes, double down on the on the only thing I'm calling you out for, retard. Try a new model then come back.
>no
Then shut the fuck up, you are irrelevant

>>715637509
That is a, not a bad thing.

>>715660475
Are you quite okay? Like, in the head?

>>715660475
nigga it couldnt even figure out how many "r"s are in the word "strawberry"
>i-it got patched out
Yes, because many people were making fun of this. So how much goes unnoticed if it cant even get something as basic as that right?

>>715660883
WTF??????? AI IS BAD!!! I USED A 7B MODEL IN 2023 AND IT WAS STUPID JUST LIKE YOU

>>715661021
You will be left behind. Enjoy your horse carriage, luddite.

>>715660668
>retard does not know you can check if the program is well written just by running it
Tell me you never programmed in your life without telling me

>>715660946
>just one more model bro I swear it's good this time bro

>>715661128
Get a job, my friend.

>>715661232
I can tell you are a clueless idiot precisely because I program for a living.

>>715660883
>You ask it when you have no fucking clue about how to use a new framework or language, and iterating over the replies is a lot faster than having to read a metric ton of documentation.
And then it lies and makes dogshit code that youre left debugging for 14 hours, great idea. Thats what my hires from 2 months ago thought too before they were fired for fucking up tremendously.
>>715660946
>Yes, double down on the on the only thing I'm calling you out for, retard.
Anon, I am saying to your face right now that you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about and either dont code at all or are very entry level. We have had to fire multiple new hires in the past 6 months for them doing exactly what you described, because they took something that's job is to confidently hallucinate at face value.
>Try a new model then come back.
I have, they dont fix the fundamental issues.
>Then shut the fuck up, you are irrelevant
This is rich since you are desperate telling me that shit I see with my eyes in the industry every single day doesnt exist. Why dont you go ahead and post your latest project you are working on in your free time. Lets see what you are capable of.

>>715661341
>"I program for a living"
Nobody who codes says it like that you fucking retard

why are luddites like this

>>715661126
>no argument
lol

>>715661507
Boomer brain, mostly. You can't really learn new things after 30

>>715661128
>>715661341
>Tell me you never programmed in your life without telling me
>because I program for a living.
Nobody tell him

Good morning, Saars! Remember to REDEEM the AI Sloppa!

oooh he's got the anime reactions ready, buckle up

>>715661578
AI is literally being led by millenials and gen x because zoomers are tech illiterate retards, who are you trying to fool? When people tell you that you are wrong, you can only scream "luddite" with zero argument. Its very obvious you have no idea what youre on about.

>>715661461
I am sorry your new hires were retarded, try hiring someone less stupid that a fucking robot next time.
>>715661465
Yeah, tell me about my profession. Lmao, no programmer ever is this anal and terrified of a tool. Only you sad failed luddite "artists".
Better brush up those dicksucking skills of yours now that your arcel gig is falling apart!

Does anyone even buy random games on Steam? if I'm gonna get something I expect it to be good. I'm not made of money.
Like if I'm gonna get a game I'm gonna research it first to find out if it's good or low effort slop.
I've not touched a shitty a.i game yet and I don't plan to anyttime soon.
I want good games not low effort shit.

>>715661774
browns led to the slaughter, looks like skynet is coming from the global South

>>715637073 (OP)
"use generative AI" is so vauge I'm sure they could find 1 in 5 games that used AI for their banner or leaf textures. It'd be more informative what percentage used AI for promotional material versus actual in-game assets.

>>715661603
Cry harder, unemployed clown.

>>715661786
Not gonna show anything then? :^)

>>715661128
>>715661341
>programmed
>program
I dont believe you.
>>715661786
>Yeah, tell me about my profession.
You dont code.

Saars, I'm something of an artist myself. Thank you come again!

>>715661921
Show you what, sniveling clown?
That you will have to get a real job for a change instead of milking patreon?

>>715661956
He is right.
AI art is art

>>715661786
>I am sorry your new hires were retarded, try hiring someone less stupid that a fucking robot next time.
Its everyone that is reliant on AI at entry level. This isnt just at my place, ask almost anyone in the industry. Also, nobody calls themselves "programmers", update your LARP.
Feel free to post your work to prove me wrong on your LARP.

>>715661950
>samefag tranny hyperventilating over being exposed as an idiot
Mald harder lmao.

>>715637331
Only incels care about microtransactions.

Gacha won. You lost. Cry about it.

>>715662025
Thanks for confirming. Bye now.

>>715662095
>nobody calls themselves "programmers"
I don't know who told you that, but thank god you were stupid enough to believe it.

Why do new posters keep using "tranny" as an insult when they are a divine and blessed people, superior to cisgender filth in every possible way? You know this is a trans dominated site that has always supported trans rights...right?

You can go back now.

>>715662136
Literally nobody in the industry refers to themselves as a "programmer". This is what people that dont know anything about the profession says. Go to /g/ and talk about you're a programmer and watch as they laugh at you.

>>715659960
You talk like someone who isn't even in the field. Why is that?

>>715662175
Yeah, good riddance retard.

>>715637073 (OP)
good
devs need to go homeless

Why has no one made a single good a.i game yet?

>>715662223
>I don't know who told you that, but thank god you were stupid enough to believe it.
I observed it after a decade of working in the industry. Please just stop, you already outed yourself.

>>715662264
Man you are the dumbest motherfucker to ever graze this imageboard

>>715661639
This is actually a good idea, once we get something like veo3 more optimized (for the real-time generation), we could actually live out any story ever written in full VR.

>>715662265
Are you seriously trying to pull a "no u" because your LARP as a """""programmer""""" was discovered?

>>715661639
>>715662376
The entire point of reading is to use your imagination

>>715661774
It seems mostly used by those who see themselves as behind the curve.

>>715662342
>nooooo please stop bullying me, I already told you why you are wrong!!
Ok man lmao. You should have learned how to program instead of doddling furry shit, artcel.

>>715662414
That is not me you fucking retard. Just the rest of people telling you that you are a

>>715637408
>increased productivity
Oh how naive.

>>715662471
It doesn’t matter how you get the idea, but adding more atmosphere won’t hurt - especially since many people are visual learners.

>>715662374
Better than someone trying to LARP as a "programmer". Are you also a 1337 haxxor? Do you pwn n00bs by typing real fast on 3 keyboards?

>>715662621
Might as well just watch a fucking movie then

>>715662573
>Just the rest of people telling you that you are a
Couldnt finish your post huh? Must be hard trying to pretend to be multiple people. How come "they" arent posting along side of you?

>>715662337
There's a couple of decent ones on f95, everyone else are too low T to even try it

>>715637073 (OP)
I stopped playing new releases and I am catching up to my backlog
I'm just going to play all notable video games by release date and that's it.

>>715662682
Ah yes, I love the movies

>>715662629
Okay retard, indulge me. In you little made up world, what do programmers call themselves? Coders? Software engineers? Lmao, I mean, if the clowns you imagine talk like they are talking to HR 24/7 sure, software engineers hahaha

>>715662506
>>715662573
>1 minute apart

>>715662797
Don't watch a shit movie? it's not hard.

>>715662723
Moron.
Nah, I was just baiting you for it and you fell face first. Because you are a sad little moron lol.

>I'm a programmer, for realz guys
>Huh? No I won't show my work what are you even talking about

>>715662812
Of course it is one minute apart you sad imbecile. Would be a gotcha if it was replying to the post you referenced, but you are too dumb to even realize lmao

>>715662849
I've already seen all 50 good ones.

>>715637256
They’re talking shit but nobody who has replied to you has come back with any good games made with ai.

>>715662895
>dox yourself
You are a special breed of imbecile, huh? Post github first, lmao.

>>715662895
Luddites LOVE faking competence. If only there were a tool to help them do it more efficiently... huh.

>>715646479
>People are supporting art like... Expedition 33
Expedition 33 is filled with ai slop.

>>715662809
Yes, a coder. Because we write code. Someone who writes code is a coder. It is a broad term used to encompass writing non-programming language like HTML/CSS as well. You would know this if you werent LARPing.

>>715662880
>Nah, I was just baiting you for it and you fell face first. Because you are a sad little moron lol.
Lmao, I bet your face is red right now.

>>715662471
AI niggers are incapable of imagination. It only appeals to level 5s on the picture an apple scale.

Why would anyone care about AI at this point? Even children nowadays can point it out.

>>715646479
>>715663117
This is just "you can always tell" all over again

>>715663123
A coder? Lmaooooo hahahah oh man.

>>715663117
Do you have a single shred of evidence for this?

>>715663250
retard

>>715663178
Red with laughter maybe. But thanks for your projection telling me you are fuming lmao.

>>715663250
yeah, number one: that's terror

>>715637073 (OP)
the unstoppable flood of brown slop

>>715637073 (OP)
>7000 match 3 slop titles with a shitty VN stapled on use AI
woah no way..........

You're better off telling people you're a sex offender than telling people you are into AIslop.

>>715663234
>>715663298
You arent fooling anyone dude.

>>715663446
Cry harder, loser.

>>715650909
modern cgi often looks as bad as aislop - ie supraman

>>715637073 (OP)
the entire surface of the coffin is nails at this point

>>715663446
Indians and sex offenders go hand in hand.

>>715637073 (OP)
Fuck em. Remember how smug they all were ten-fifteen years ago, during the whole "just learn to code" phase? They were all smugly telling all the stupid ugly poors to get an education, well, who's laughing now, cunts??

>>715663492
I don't need to fool anyone, I just want to make you sad arcel seethe.
And something tells me I am succeeding ;^)

>>715663335
Join us

>>715663221
I wish antis would stop using such phobic language

>>715656186
Fortunately, it is not. You retarded cum guzzling faggot.

>>715637073 (OP)
so who publishes AI games? the developers? who makes money?

>>715663446
That post would get you so many upvotes on the r/aihate, you should go back.

>>715637073 (OP)
they better work on developing the ai that buys aislop games
cause i'm not going to do it

go ahead, replace me, i dare you

>>715663795
You know that meme AI Ani made more money in a day that you will ever make in the entirety of you life, right?

>>715663795
AI games will end up like Dustborne because everyone knows they're garbage and not worth anyone's time.

Why would you ever buy an a.i product?
Like if anyone can make it why should I buy it?

>>715663234
Uh oh

>>715663875
What the fuck is AI Ani?

>>715663795
>he still thinks vidya isn't a dying medium and everyone already moved on from it

>>715663903
AI troons are already being forced to buy subscriptions for $30-$300 in order to keep using their favorite slop toy.

I love our rapid descent into further corporate dystopia.

>>715663984
Some bullshit that has zero relevance outside his twitter nigger circle

>>715663668
I mean you literally outed yourself as either being ancient ("programmer" is antiquated as fuck), or a LARPer

>>715663651
This is unironically a great equalizer... unless you're a Iuddite.

>>715659780
>willingly lies
Ironically, that's intentional. AIs learns by deliberately making choices that's wrong according to current data and then responding to feedback.

>>715662809
Dev or Coder, literally nobody uses programmer aside from fags trying to pretend that theyre software engineers

>>715664402
All the AI can do is regurgitate information. It's essentially a glorified copy paste program.

>>715664402
>AIs learns by deliberately making choices that's wrong according to current data and then responding to feedback.
So youre selling a faulty product? Lmao sure hope it never takes over anything important and "decides" to do something wrong and kills people.

>>715662025
In other unrelated news, 8,100+ H-1B visas have been approved! But yeah let's blame the AI spook.

>>715637408
When the only measurable increse is in the amount of shitty cashgrab shovelware, then it's bad.

>>715664474
so just like people?

Generative AI is too useful for companies not to use. You can bang out so much artwork 1000x faster and just hire 2 or 3 artists to clean up any errors. People against AI are fighting a losing battle.

>>715663064
>guise Im totally a """""""""""programmer"""""""""""" but I cant show basic code for a project because uhhhh.... Ill dox myself!
Whoa, I cant believe every single person that ever shared code doxxes themselves! Better go let stack overflow know that!
Lmfao, shut the fuck up you embarrassing faggot, the fact that you think posting something like that would dox you at all shows that you are a techlet retard

>>715664796
>Faster=Better
That's why it's called slop.

>>715664864
There is some REALLY good a.i "art" out there. Its getting better at an exponential rate. Call it slop all you want but this genie is NEVER going back in the bottle.

>>715664604
>and kills people
Amusingly enough AI that can learn is super good at spotting cancer tumors on xrays, but everything still has to be doublechecked by a human doctor to make sure it's not a deliberate miss.

>>715664967
AI can get as good as it gets and nobody will still care about it besides the one jeet asking for the proompt.

Thanks to control net I am caste maxxing wonderful genie

>>715665113
>Nobody will care
>Every single major corporation is using it
Ok retard maybe when you grow up youll realize how fucking retarded you are.

>>715664967
>There is some REALLY good a.i "art" out there.
To this day I've seen nothing but slop. at the most you get some freaky hentai but that's just porn that's not true art.

>>715664967
Said art is one in a million and heavily edited, and yet is still usually noticable as AI.
>exponential
It really isnt, all innovations for the past years have been on the user end. The tech itself is bottlenecked by needing exponential data, which the internet is tapped already. Theyre currently trying to use "synthetic data", which is just nonsense spouted by the AI, and models are starting to get worse for it unless trained specifically.

>>715637073 (OP)
AI tech bros and saars are gonna be rich dropping sick anime games!

>>715664998
The one good thing AI does is in medical, yet all the funding is for making slop. Its fucking stupid.

>>715665173
No major corporation is going to actually use it since anytime a company has been caught using AI, they lose potentially millions of sales from all the backlash.

>>715665173
Every major corporation also was in on the .com bubble.

>>715637073 (OP)
Learn to lay bricks, LMAO

>>715665327
>>715665208
>>715665201
You guys are so dead set on being redditor AI IS LE BAD faggots you deserve to be left behind. Its already fucking over. You have lost. Nobody is losing money. Especially this last retard who said companies are losing potential millions. Give me a fucking break BLOPS 6 heavily uses ai and its the #1 game of all time AGAIN. Seems like NOBODY GIVES A FUCK

>>715665392
Women are a meme.

>Use hacks in online games.
>Get banned.
BLOODY LUDDITES!

How do you even use AI? I know about the AI chatprograms, but what tools do people use to make the more impressive looking AI videos and pictures?

>>715665436
Why do jeets get so mad about this shit?

>>715665436
>AAA garbage to appeal to mouth breathers
):<
>AAA garbage to appeal to mouth breathers now with added AI slop
O:

>>715665638
Lemonparty

>>715665437
>women
like there arent a hundred anons seething about ai art on /v/ 24/7

>>715665436
anon... they're the ones supposed to be seething
calm down

>>715637073 (OP)
>it's asset flipping bonanza all over again

>>715665671
They realize they need to put effort in if they want people to care about their slop and have been throwing a temper tantrum calling everyone luddites ever since.

>>715637256
>LLM
Who the fuck cares about shitty text gen retard.

>>715665436
Hey bro you never responded to my post here >>715663912 where the AI says you are a fucking moron LARPer, care to respond instead of running away like a pussy? Is the AI flawed or are you just a fucking LARPing retard? How are you going to worm your way out of this aside from running like a vagina?
>t-thats n-not m-me
Yes it is, you have the exact same post style and vernacular lol. You going to admit that you are a fucking liar and are absolutely not a coder yet? Why should anyone believe what you say when you lie so brazenly and openly and triple down on it when called out?

>Another ai is bad thread
I love how pathetic you guys with no jobs in any relevant industry think this stuff is going away.

AI haters join my subreddit group -> https://www.reddit.com/r/luddite/

>>715637073 (OP)
Sturgeon's law remains unchanged.

The majority of everything is always shit.
I don't care what flavor of shit.

>>715665964
lol >>715652664

>>715652825
>Asset flip games existed already
WTF I LOVE AI SLOP NOW

THINK OF LE HECKING ARTISTS???????

>Your supposed to be happy about games becoming even worse
Why though?

>>715666002
Hey bro you seem to have missed my post, care to respond?
>>715663912
>>715665858

>>715666002
I'm not joining no reddit what the fuck man

Ai is not good enough to remotely handle my hobby gamedev projects, imagine an actual swe problem

My biggest success story is it getting some minor vector math correct after about 200 insane answers, goodjob.
Best use case? Looking up functions and documentation.
Right before it decides to hallucinate half the time for ones that don't exist or repeatedly gives bad practices

If "real" art is so superior why are artists so afraid? Surely their own art is so good that companies and people would want to keep hiring them?

>>715637256
>NO ONE WANTS DIGITAL ASSETS IN GAMES
its so funny how deranged AI makes you people

>>715637256
I want this slop in vidya. I am generating slop at this very moment.

>>715661461
>And then it lies
this seems to be the biggest issue with all LLM's that i dont see any of the creators of them actually adressing. They have designed them to always be sure of themselves and be confident in what they know even if they shouldnt. The Ai will never hedge its bets, it wont tell you its lacking the information it needs to tell you what you are asking for, and if it doesnt know it will make things up. And its designed this way on purpose, because the average person WANTS the ai to seem very confident and authoritative at all times because they cant handle a tool that admits it doesnt know everything.

AI is the only thing that can save gaming. We have entire console generations without a single game because game dev cycles are twice the length of console generations. Let AI make textures and fire all the jeets.

>>715666613
to add onto this, it would be way more beneficial for the LLM's to be humble and have humility and be transparent about what they know and dont know because then its easier for people trying to do complex things to figure out exactly what they need to tell the LLM to get it to do what they want it to do.

Man, it sure is weird that the guy that said he was a """"""""""""""""""""""programmer""""""""""""""""""""""""" suddenly stopped responding when this >>715663912 was posted. Very strange. Guess he really is a blubbering vagina that got absolutely BTFO by his own retarded LARP and cant handle such a blow to his ego. Since he ran like a coward, I suppose that means he conceeds and admits that he is a lying retard that knows absolutely nothing about the industry, and is overall a techlet moron trying to shill things he knows nothing about.

Glad thats settled. I accept your concession that you are objectively, irrefutably wrong and a lying sack of shit.

>>715666743
Better yet would be if the big studios started making AA games instead of AAA+ games that spend a billion in marketing, hires Hollywood devs and bloated budgets.

>promote my game by saying it is proudly made by real people and not AI
>release a bunch of artist interview videos where the artists talk about working on the project and how important it is to keep creative works made by people not machines
>become an internet sensation, tons of people rally behind me and buy my game
>actually made the entire game with AI by myself and the videos of the artists were generated with AI too

>>715666809
im NTA you were replying to and i dont care enough to read the whole thread and the whole context behind around what programmers call themselves, but you seem way too fucking obsessed with this. is everything ok with you anon? are there things in your life going very wrong that you are trying to avoid thinking about by obsessing over petty shit on 4chan?

Reminder that just a few years ago this was the best AI could do, imagine how good it will be in the future.

It's not really a high barrier to be considered generative AI. You can generate AI for one background texture and you have to disclose that you used AI for it. I'm pretty a game got gamers up in arms for just this thing.

>>715666613
thinking models already fixed that issue
stop judging shit after using outdated garbage once

niggas literally take 10 years to make a new entry in established franchises now, if anything AI is the only possible saving grace
>GTA VI
>TES VI
>KH3
>Persona 6
It's embarassing if not downright depressing, at this rate most of /v/ will be literal boomers by the time GTA VII releases

>>715666938
I will absolutely rub a smug, hostile cunt's nose in his lying LARP when he spent the entire thread saying Im not in the industry and that Im a liar and all that, then tried to pretend to be a dev to try and counter and discredit my experiences. I find it very suspect that you are taking his side since it is very obvious who is wrong here.

>>715666916
devilish

>>715666952
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns
Generative has huge diminishing returns for a lot of different reasons but i think the most interesting one is that the more the internet gets flooded with it, the more it pollutes its own possible sample collection and so all future generative AI will slowly be corrupted by other generative AI's vomiting generated nonsense at eachother. Because obviously they dont want generated AI stuff in their training data, but in order to only find real things they have to somehow figure out detection methods that are fullproof to detect generative AI, and those detection methods are actively used to train the generative ai's to be better at making undetectable shit in the first place. There is no solution to this problem unless they just only hire real people in the real world and can somehow guarantee they arent poisoning their own wells but thats not going to happen.

>>715667078
which models. list them. im currently talking to chat gpt 4o and it is the latest model

>>715667103
AI already saved poor people by introducing DLSS4

>>715667121
im not taking anyones side dude, hes obviously not here anymore to talk to. i am talking to you because you are still posting even when the other person clearly has left the thread. you "won". but its clearly not enough for you, because something is clearly upsetting you. So i ask sincerely, whats up? No judgement. I know this place is the worst place in the world when it comes to sincerity and people being genuine but i really do kind of get the feeling you might be dealing with something and its manifesting in how you are interacting with people on here.

>>715663123
So...you just readily admitted to being a webjeet and not a programmer? Thanks.

>>715667158
>im currently talking to chat gpt 4o and it is the latest model
fucking click the button moron

>>715667215
That new AI texture thing seems cool too.

>>715667275
are you talking about "deep research"?

>>715667103
One interesting thing is that there will be good games heavily relying on AI before we see GTA VII. AI will probably be scary for huge publishers like that to use, so they'll be hesitant while zoomers coming up in a world where AI is new and exciting will just pour themselves into using it.

>>715667215
what the fuck is DLS4S

>>715667158
>>715666952
it even got better in May when VEO came out, sound is almost perfect now

>>715667032
Cat killing Carmack was also in charge of the Metaverse and that boy loved his NFTs, the less you know about him the better.
John Romero thread?

>>715667275
no
seems like your latest model isn't latest

>>715667676
all wrong but keep coping fag

>>715649458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nWwLkqILt4

>>715667263
He clearly hasnt left the thread because his post style is the same. He is ignoring it because he would either have to say the AI is wrong or admit hes lying. Again, I find it very suspect that you are white knighting for him and trying to act condescending towards me about it. I find it especially suspect that his normal posts suddenly vanished when you jumped in. Im sure youre next play is to call me a schizo and mysteriously not condemn him at all with all this knowledge you have despite supposedly not reading the reply chain.

>>715667715
Explain how every single thing that happened is wrong about that post, go on retard

>>715667394
>AI will probably be scary for huge publishers like that to use
they'll probably jump ship as soon as possible given it's all about money and the reality is like with almost everything, the doomsayers or complainers are less than 1% of the people that actually buy your products
The average consoomer for gaymes only cares they're good/fun, not if AI was used to make or enhance it in any way possible unlike some autismos on steam and reddit/x like to pretend

>>715667610
Already needs an update lol

>>715667610
Still looks like shit and is obviously AI lol, this shit plateued

>>715637408
Are any of these games actually good?
No.

>>715667792
>>715667824
The right isn't AI generated.

>>715667264
Literally nobody calls themselves a "programmer". Go to /g/ right now and talk about how youre a "programmer" and watch as they laugh you out of the board

>>715667863
Stop gaslighting luddites, they literally can't tell

>>715667790
Big corps want to appeal to EVERYONE and as long as someone says x won't like this, they'll try to avoid it. EA already talked about this.

>>715667710
no anon, 4.5 is only available if you spend $200 a month, you have no idea what you are talking about. 4o is the highest available at the moment for everyone else (including the $20 a month version).

>>715667863
Yes it is, why the fuck are you lying?

>>715668090
No it isn't.

>>715667610
soul vs soulless.

>>715668109
Oh? So will smith's facial structure randomly changes and his skin pigmentation fluctuates?

>>715637256
you summer child.
the finals and liar's bar used genAI and came out successful. not scathe free but far from shunned.

>>715664773
>self report
KEK

>>715668191
You have schizophrenia.

>>715637073 (OP)
The fact that there are so many posters here shilling AI really shows how many indians and turdworlders there are here. SAD.

Saaar

>>715668246
SAR PLEASE REDEEM THE GENERATED ART SAR IT IS VERY OF THE GOOD QUALITY

>>715668069
you just said you're on 4o retard >>715667158

>>715668228
And you are a liar. This is why people dont like AI, you fucking faggots literally try to lie and gaslight your slop into relevance

why are luddites like that

>>715668313
yes.... so im saying you cant possible be on a higher version than i am (4o) unless you are paying 200 dollars a month. so either you are lying or using an older model. what model are you using? Also the fact that you cant follow a basic fucking english conversation and shilling for AI this hard makes it 100% obvious to literally everyone ITT that you are a 3rd world ESL shit stain

on one hand, 20th century art/artists worked very hard to destroy notions like "intentionality" and "meaning", making fully automated, randomized robo art the apotheosis of that (andy warhol would be an AI artist if he were alive today)
on the other hand i don't know why i should "care" unless it was made by a human trying to communicate something, not a robot that exchanges cultural signs (another fascination of the people who wanted to kill art in the 20th century). i cannot see the result as anything but stagnation being sold as revolution

>>715667863
>>715668109
>>715668228
me when I lie

>>715668428
I never stated I'm using a newer version? I don't know why you don't have it, enjoy using a dumber model I guess

>>715668246
Its just a few faggots spamming. The guy screaming "luddite" at everything posts the same shit nearly every thread and when you call him on shit tries to samefag as multiple people for credit

>>715660883
>depending on an AI to tell you things you don't already know and not randomly confabulate incorrect information
That's a recipe for disaster, especially in cases where it may initially seem like the code works.

>>715668645
He's a techlet dipshit that was pretending to be a dev by calling himself a "programmer", then got super mad when multiple people shit on him for it. Pay him no mind, he is subhuman

>>715668645
That's how you ended up with Google AI telling people to drink urine.

>>715666787
> it would be way more beneficial for the LLM's to be humble and have humility and be transparent about what they know and dont know
They can't, because they trained on retards on the internet who are peak dunning kruger.

>>715668795
N-No that doesnt count, its uh... shut up luddite!

>>715668795
It was so fucking stupid in the first week, I'm still amazed they managed to do it in 2025

So whats the excuse going to be when there still isnt any good AI games in a few years? Its been 3 years already, there should have been something by now since it supposedly greatly speeds up development

>Walk into a doctor's office for an emergency operation.
>The doctor has a brocolli haircut.
>He's reading how to perform the operation thru ChatGPT.
Grim.

>>715669013
>does it better than a retard who spent 10 years learning everything at once

>>715668941
2 more weeks saar

How many of them are actually games made with purpose instead of AI equivalent of asset flipping shovelware?

>>715668795
If it's good for Bear Grylls then it's good for me.

>>715669013
But studies have already shown that AI makes a better job than doctors, and anyone that had an experience with real life doctors can probably tell you that this is true.
Most of them are totally CLUELESS, this is not the 90's anymore, I thought people would realize that doctors are not some kind of 300IQ entity and are mostly clueless.

>>715669191
>Beep...Beep...Beeeeeeep

>>715669191
>randomly forces you to start drinking urine

>>715668203
The ai content didnt sell the game stupid

>>715669340
>But studies have already shown
Link them. They better be peer reviewed scholarly articles and not some hypeslop shit.

>>715669340
don't link him anything or he'll disappear from the thread

>>715669381
yes daddy il start drinking your pee right away

>>715669461
It's an article written by Rajesh LeStreetShitter.

>>715637073 (OP)
Eh, it's a poisoned pill for the industry too. Why would anyone want to play their ai slop when you can generate your own perfectly catered ai slop yourself.

>>715669567
You can see this in AIslop generals. Everyone is too busy posting their own slop to give a shit about anyone elses.

>>715668919
It's still retarded and it will forever be retarded since it is in a cycle of using retarded ai to source its retarded ai answers.

>>715669669
not how it works at all

>>715669643
its interesting because this is what happens with waifu posting as well. everyone just posts and talks about their own waifu, they dont engage with or interact with eachother. they just vomit waifu posting in the same thread past eachother.

what are the chances there is a strong overlap between waifufags and aifags?

>>715637256
exped33 used genai

>>715669743
Source?

>>715669730
You're correct that they also take others work and incorrectly summarize it too. Awesome future there.

>>715669895
you're a retard and a luddite

>>715669928
post a picture of your hand with a timestamp or you are brown 100% confirmed

>>715637913
Thats a photoshop edit though, not AI. Look at the flag shadow on the grass, obvous airbrush. And the background is some 3D asset trees.

>>715669928
How much piss did you drink anon

>>715669928
Someone lose all their money in NFT's?

>>715670000
Checked and kek'd

>>715669461
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/health/chatgpt-ai-doctors-diagnosis.html
https://futurecarecapital.org.uk/latest/ai-performs-better-than-doctors/

And this was over a year ago btw

>>715670108
Worse, he invested his life savings into crypto.

>>715669743
No it didnt

>>715670108
I unironically made money off it
>>715670164
This is true

>a person who tells you he's ahead of you is actually ahead of you
weird how that works

>>715670153
Holy shit, it's still slop? Truly amazing, saar.

>>715670153
>nytimes
>futurecarecapital
Are you retarded? The instructions said peer reviewed and scholarly, and not hypeslop. Do you need your programming updated? Why cant AIjeets follow basic instructions? Why do they think that frivolous bullshit collumns mean anything?

>>715669253
more like 5 minutes saas

>>715670336
Net worth?

>>715670401
So it doesn't matter what I link you , you will just say "DOESN'T COUNT!"?

>>715670153
>slop article
>admits that it onky beat trainee doctors, which even that is suspect
Lol

>>715670515
No, I asked for something specific and quantifiable. I was very particular about it. Then you posted the opposite. Post what I asked for.

>>715663496
Why are you gay incel

>>715670515
>saar the newyork times is reputable saar, very scientific

>>715670583
How is a study about AI beating doctors at diagnosing eye conditions not "specific"?
You are disingenuous and you know it.

>>715637073 (OP)
no, gacha did

>>715670486
unsafe to share on a board that gets hacked every other year

>>715653984
fuck off dumb doomer

>>715637073 (OP)
JIHAD

T - O - T - A - L S - L - O - P DEATH

>>715670713
LMAO

>>715670640
https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/artificial-intelligence-beats-doctors-in-accurately-assessing-eye-problems
This isn't a reputable source for you, Ranjit?

>>715670153
The AI used Google Search to look up the answers and only got a 90%? Truly the future sirs, ship it right now and fire all the doctors immediately.

>Tell everybody that AI sloppa is going to result in a fucking deluge of low effort garbage made by infinite indians, and that any pro-ai retards thinking they'll put forth an actual good product will be buried in the sea of dogshit, and when people inevitably filter ai tags due to association with slop, they won't ever be found.
can't browse pixiv or rule34 w/o filtering out this shit desu.
for pixiv: account/settings -> display settings -> toggle the 'ai-generated work' display to off btw
sloppa in search results should be opt-in, opposed of opt-out, desu

>>715670768
And that was still better than real doctors, thanks for confirming the discussion?

Ai bros? Why the fuck does he keep laughing? Is this meant to be funny?
https://youtu.be/ONNZQzgwmBg?t=252

>>715670785
It's funny too because the jeets on there always try to be sly and not tag their slop as AI but people always see thru it and tag it as slop for them anyway.

>>715670785
>ai tags

how would you be able to fucking tell if AI wrote the dialogue or was used in blender ?

>>715670785
>desu
>btw
you have to go back sis

For as much as AIfags claim to hate artists, they generally want to be seen and praised as artists so bad it's hilarious. Like an ugly feminist mad that hot girls exist.

>>715670989
can't write "t b h" or "s o y" because they're wrongfuly wordfiltered sir

>>715671054
That's why AIjeets keep saying it's a tool. They desperately want to be credited for the slop they didn't make.

>>715670743
>GPT-4 gained similar scores to trainee and expert eye doctors - although the top performing doctors scored higher.
>The researchers say that large language models aren’t likely to replace healthcare professionals, but have the potential to improve healthcare as part of the clinical workflow.
Despite the hypeslop clickbait title, they did not, infact, beat anything but the most basic of doctors. Why are AIfaggots so fucking disingenous?

>>715671258
>yes this old model did in fact beat doctors
>but only basic doctors... so it doesn't count saar!

>>715637073 (OP)
Okay, now remove all the asset flip coomslop and count again.

>>715671226
>See obvious AIslop
>Someone slapped their Patreon on it.
I lol everytime.

>>715671258
it's been known that they fake the benchmarks, like the devin scandal that didn't even run trials, just straight up posted their fake scores

there was in fact some very legit AI that did score high on genuine math tests for graduate students in like late 2023 but it was symbolic and very limited in the type of math it could do (i.e. it wasn't an llm or even a transformer model)

You already have AI trannies trying to use AI voice changers sounding like the fakest robot girl voices in online games especially VRchat.

>>715671054
The thing that confuses me is when they get mad when you say there A.I shit sucks
Like you didn't make it? it took you like minutes at the most to make it.
So why are you so mad? I can understand if it was something you put effort into. but a.i requires no effort.

>>715671592
The real truth is anytime an AIfag posts their slop, it's actually the best of the best from mindlessly hitting the generate button for hours on end only for it to still end up looking like dogshit.

>>715669447
>moving the goalpost

>>715671345
>hah, these people that werent actually trained in [thing] scored worse than chatGPT! please ignore that it couldnt beat people that were trained in the thing
Do you not understand that doctors have only general knowledge of shit unless specialized? Are you fucking retarded? You said it was better and it wasnt. Get fucked.

>>715668706
>democratization
>luddite
>AI art
these will never fail to trigger autists

>>715671759
AI trannys hiding the hands just like how they hide their adam's apple.

>>715671751
Which means if you have a problem (which will most likely be "specialized") it's better than going to see a general doctor?

>>715671852
you're killing your future by being a contrarian faggot
again

I'm a luddite
I AM a luddite
I A - M a luddite

I - A - M - A - L - U - D - D - I - T - E

>>715662157
Wrong. Gacha is unplayable trash to the overwhelming majority of people. It's retards like you that make them so profitable.
You ain't winning shit, faggot.

>>715671742
>ai will make people not buy the game
>"uhhh hello? Two examples of basically nothing?"
I think you just left the goal wide open like a retard. Maybe come back?

>>715671913
Why would you go to a general doctor for a fucking specialized thing like eye problems you absolute fucking retard? Have you never been to an optometrist in your life? Do you get glasses from a PCP? Does your family doctor perform eye surgery on you?

How are you this fucking stupid?

>>715671852
many such cases

>>715671852
Even if they get correct hands, it's still going to look like obvious AIslop regardless.

>>715672095
Because if I have a lets say rash I have to see a doctor BEFORE I can meet a specialized doctor, and if that doctor has no idea what he's doing (which is most likely the case) it might take years to even get to the point to see a specialized doctor.

I've had this experienced in the past.

>>715672264
lmao imagine being brown

Mmm I can't wait for more cheap shovelware to flood the steam store, now with AI generated shit instead of the shit you buy from asset shops.

>>715672264
>Because if I have a lets say rash I have to see a doctor BEFORE I can meet a specialized doctor, and if that doctor has no idea what he's doing (which is most likely the case) it might take years to even get to the point to see a specialized doctor.
Oh... OHHHH. Youre in some socialist shithole. Ah, I get it. That tracks.
Listen, in America, it doesnt take years to go to an eye doctor. You either get a referral, or more likely, you just make an appointment directly. I had recurrent corneal erosion and I just made an appointment with an optometrist, they looked at it, clamped my head and then they sluffed the shit right off and put a little contact thing in to let it heal back up before removing it a few weeks later. Didnt even have to see a regular doctor at all.

>>715672602
>You either get a referral
Anon... tell me again how you get a referral to see a specialized doctor. I'll wait.

>>715637408
lazy output from people who just dont care, waste of everyone's time.

>>715672705
I dont know anon, as I said I never had to deal with that and am assuming some people do that if they are dumb and think a regular PCP should be solving eye problems. And even at that, it certainly doesnt take years. How does that even happen? If the doctor says "lol I dont know", he would refer you, yes?

Dont get sassy with me because your country is shit and has dumbass doctors and medical systems. I just go to an optometrist when I have a fucking eye problem.

>>715672947
Why are you even trying to argue if you have no idea how the things you try and argue about works?

>>715673168
..........I do know how it works because I just told you that I my fucking eye felt like it was on fire when I woke up in the mornings, so I called an optometrist, got an appointment 2 days later, and got it solved. No going to the PCP, no needing a referral, no waiting for years. And before you start your shit, I think having my cornea getting ripped off because it was attaching to my eyelid at night was a pretty fucking serious situation, more than a random rash.

From this I conclude that you are in a shit country with shit medical practices. In which you should be fixing your system instead of relying on the same shit that confidently tells you to trick pee and put glue on your fucking pizza. Any other words of wisdom from your 3rd world country?

>>715653668
holy shit what lol

>>715673581
You are comparing a fucking emergency to a normal problem, retard.
>HURR DURR I HAD AN EMERGENCY IT DIDN'T TAKE ME LONG TO SEE SOMEONE
>THAT'S THE SAME AS GETTING HELP FROM ALL DOCTORS!

>>715661774
I'd also trust in AI when the alternative are the people in those tweets.

>>715666231
>games are becoming worse because assetswap slop #3000 used AI to generate a texture
It's so over. Assetswap slop 3000 was supposed to save gaming.

>>715652270
The point is that your chance of getting noticed is now higher, because it used to be 0.

Time to go do something else ;)

>>715673785
It wasnt treated as an emergency you fucking retard. It isnt an emergency at all unless you let it go. I had no idea what I had, I just called a place and said "hey, for the past few days my eye really fucking hurts when I wake up, I want to get it looked at" and they made an appointment. Thats it. Thats all you have to do in America. You go to a PCP when you dont know what the fuck is wrong, or for general shit. You sometimes are required to get a referral for very specific things. Not often.

You just live in a socialist shithole bro, not sure what else to twell you. If it was america, youd make an appointment and get treated, or atleast diagnosed, within the week. The downside is that you have to pay out the ass if you dont have good insurance. But either way, lets say that the AI was as good as the optometrist (it isnt).... what would that accomplish? Id still have to get my eye checked out. And it could be fucking wrong. It might be like "nah you're fine lol" and then I listen and let it go and it gets worse. Again, this shit tells you to drink piss and eat rocks, I will trust actual fucking doctors over something that cant even parse sarcasm and satire, thanks.

>>715653089
>>715653340
>>715653628
>>715653908
>>715656901
>waaah stoooooop
nobody cares, nobody ever cared, nobody will ever care, AI is here to stay, feel free to 'stop buying games', nobody expected you third worlders to buy anything either way

the goal is good games, the way to get said good games does not matter, never mattered, will never matter, a good game will be a good game and will be enjoyed at the end of the day, whether the tool made to create it is pen and paper, a computer, or AI it's all the same, you can whine and scream on twitter as much as you want, nobody cares

>>715674475
>AI mouth breathers think a game is good just because it exists.

>>715670872
*gets fired*
lol
lmao

>>715674475
>good games
the only thing we'll get from AI is low quality VNs made by indians with low effort AI generated images flooding the internet

>>715674579
you dont get it, we need DEMOCRACY, we need to DEMOCRATISE art, not this facist dictatorship artists have created, we need a revolution.

>>715674475
>getting this pressed that studies show that AI is slowing the dev workflow

>>715670872
It's the low T laugh, lots of old men develop it. He's deranged.

>>715674616
>gets fired by the company most known for canning studios
>somehow the only one to get an offer to immediately rehire the entire team

Thats it I'm done I'm quitting prompting forever, goodjob Romero you win enjoy laughing at progress you freaking Luddi-ACK

>>715675232
>Romero created a new level of Doom II which was subsequently listed for sale through his personal website. Romero stated that all proceeds would be donated to the Ukrainian Red Cross and the UN Central Emergency Response Fund.[38]
omega cringe

>>715675432
>Funding total Zigger death
Holy based

>>715670989
i unironically typed desu, in hopes one day i will become japanese