Thread 715645141

Can a game that's
>10/10 gameplay
>10/10 visuals
>10/10 music
>no real story
ever be considered superior to a game that's
>10/10 gameplay
>10/10 visuals
>10/10 music
>10/10 story

>>715645141 (OP)
It can't but also DK loses points in gameplay for shitty performance

>>715645141 (OP)
E33 astroturfing is really getting on my nerves

Well yes because Nintendo. They get a free pass.

>>715645370
True, Nintendo astroturfing is incomparably worse though

Sure, the most popular games don't even have story because they're online vs games.

just spamming the punch button and destroying level asset like an ADHD tard isnt 10/10 gameplay

>>715645141 (OP)
No story is a feature. Means nothing bogging down your gameplay experience with dead weight cutscenes.

shill thread

>>715645370
As much as it’s obviously a poor game, it has to be much incredibly better than Bananza this is the one time it seems allotable

>>715645141 (OP)
Nintendo is a mental illness and ps4 a better console

>>715645484
No art direction or music is a feature. Means nothing bogging down your gameplay experience with dead weight assets and noises

>>715645141 (OP)
>never played either
>never will

>>715645141 (OP)
If you can't git gud at parrying, sure.

>>715645370
same

>>715645141 (OP)
>E33
>10/10 gameplay
Eh, not with that terrible balancing, otherwise it would be a 10/10.

>And DK does!?
I don't know, I haven't played it yet, retard.

>>715645141 (OP)
Rare Autists btfo

>>715645589
>As much as it’s obviously a poor game
you are actually retarded

>>715645141 (OP)
>jarpig
>10/10 gameplay

>>715645141 (OP)
>he forgetted the Nintendo bonus

>>715645141 (OP)
>no real story
What do you mean? Or are you only saying it doesn't have a story because it happens to contradict something you were previously convinced of?

>>715645141 (OP)
>10/10 gameplay
>turn based game

>>715645141 (OP)
Expedition 33 has really poor level design and the overworld sucks

>>715647884
There isn’t any globohomo agitprop

I find games with no proper story to be basically pointless and boring to play.

>>715645141 (OP)
DK had a better story

>>715648323
just to add. which is why Zelda and Metroid are the only Nintendo games I play. Everything else they make is baby shit or games with pretty much no story.

>>715648323
Why not just read books

The best game I've played in the past 12 months has like 2 minutes of story at the beginning and I've never read the whole thing

>>715648397
adhd

>>715648397
Because being pretentious doesnt require effort.

Real gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>> turn based cinematics with glorified QTEs

>>715648323
You are a weirdo.

>>715648397
Why not go outside and play sports

>>715645141 (OP)
I thought E33 story was dogshit because it was all a dream in the end?
Also the characters look like weg characters so thats not a 10 already

>>715645141 (OP)
E33 Has 7/10 gameplay and 7/10 visuals. The game is mostly an Unreal Engine asset flip with

>>715645645
How is that even remotely the same?
The game is going to have visuals regardless and music is not going to interrupt anything.
Meanwhile, story interrupts everything.

>>715648323
same, this is the greatest game ever made
I'm trans btw

>>715648545
im not being pretentious though. im just saying I personally find games with no story to be boring. It feels pointless to play something with no story because what am I even playing for at all then? its why I never play shit like mmos or gaccha games or online games. I only play single player story focused games. That doesnt mean they cant have good gameplay. for example I love the Resident Evil games and they have good gameplay.

>>715648643
False equivalency
If what you like is story you should go to mediums where story is the whole point, stories in videogames are all pretty shitty even RPGs

>>715648323
Video games aren't for you then.

>>715648695
>The game is going to have visuals regardless and music
Nope

>>715648721
wrong. I hated that game and dropped it after about 3 or 4 hours. It was extremely boring and tedious. If you want me to post examples of games I liked just ask.

>>715648725
Are you a woman? For a man its just fun to beat challenges even if the challenge is can you press buttons good enough and can you figure out puzzles in real time
Women have no use for that which is why they only play RPGs if anything at all

What is a "Real Story" anyway

>>715648775
>False equivalency
Nah you just got btfo using your own logic and can't cope
>If what you like is story you should go to mediums where story is the whole point, stories in videogames are all pretty shitty even RPGs
If only gameplay is what you like why not go outside and experience true gameplay in its rawest form, why settle for a digital imitation

>>715648780
I've played about 1000 games over the last 30 odd years.

>>715648886
No but I did a woman dominated degree in college with a class of like 90% girls and I work with all women.

>>715648904
I dont need to cope because you are making no sense at all.

>>715649012
Cool, so we can all throw out your retarded book question given that you obviously have no clue what you're talking about

>>715648906
Cool. Interactivity and gameplay will always take precedence over story in video GAMES.

>>715648972
So youre a waste of oxygen too good for you anon.

>>715645436
Nintendo has a legacy. E33 and the gay new studio that made it doesn't.

>>715648904
>If only gameplay is what you like why not go outside and experience true gameplay in its rawest form, why settle for a digital imitation
What is this normiefag ass sentence? It makes no goddamned sense. Is this how the brain of someone who discovered the internet after 2015 works?

>>715645612
you're a pedophile

>>715649159
>Nintendo has a legacy
Of astroturfing, yep

>>715648972
>claims to not be pretentious
>gets a pretentious nothingburger degree for women
Bravado and lack of self-awareness are the breeding grounds for trooning out too.

>>715648829
Anon, you just sent me a screenshot with visuals.

Here is examples of random games I liked so:
Zelda OOT and MM
Metal Gear Solid 1,2 and 3 (absolutely not 5 which was extremely boring and tedious)
Resident Evil 1,2,3,4,5, 1 Remake, 2 Remake and 4 Remake
Elder Scrolls Oblivion and Skyrim
The Jak and Daxter trilogy
Final Fantasy 7 and 10 and Crisis Core and 7 Remake and Rebirth
Mass Effect Trilogy
Batman Arkham games
Legacy of Kain games
Metroid Zero Mission, Fusion, Super, Prime 1,2,3
Deus Ex and HR and MD
Dark Souls 1 and Elden Ring
Alpha Protocol
Spec Ops the Line
RDR1 but not RDR2 which was extremely boring and tedious
Dead Space

>>715645141 (OP)
Nintendo makes products, they dont care about story. (Their own words).
This should already be enough to not make a 'perfect' game.

>>715647884
DK doesn't kill god with the power of friendship, so no real story.

>>715649146
>>715649317
Not true. I work in a Hospital in a medical field.

>>715648906
I have my doubts if I am being g honest. Nobody at your supposed age would say something so fucking stupid and no I am not saying you can’t enjoy the story in a videogame or even like story-based games.

>>715649102
Graphics are clearly more important because it's VIDEO games an not games video

>>715649339
Zork also comes in audio form, and it wouldn't be hard to make it tactile and work in Braille

>>715645141 (OP)
IGN is garbage

>>715645436
>no you can't talk about videogames, that is astroturfing!!!!!

>>715645141 (OP)
I'm not going to say E33 is visually appealing, but the DK game is probably one of the ugliest games I've seen in the last couple years.

>>715649446
Has nothing to do with story. Stick to passive media like YouTube and movies if you want story and video

>>715649595
Talking about E33 is not astroturfing? My life has been a lie..

If a game doesnt have at least some sort of story theres no reason to play it. Thats why I hated shit like Balatro and Vampire Supriviors when people were kissing their ass. I doesnt even need some top tier story. Like I love the Streets of Rage games and they have a very basic story.

>>715645370
I find all modern video game fans to be pretty annoying all around
People treat the internet like such srs bsns

>>715649618
I'm not defending story, I'm calling you a retard for prioritizing gameplay in a medium that's primarily about GRAPHICS

>>715649675
Balatro stands on its mechanics alone, a story would make it unbearably boring

>>715649729
Grafix won't save gaming

>>715649797
Balatro was boring as fuck

>>715649797
And yet video games are a medium primarily about graphics anyway

>>715645141 (OP)
>>715645436
But why does Nintendo has such a cult? Why are manchildren worshiping it so much that companies are forced to give Nintendo slop 10/10or grown men will cry

gameplay > jrpg pedo slop
that's why nintendo will always be at the top

>turn-based RPG
>10/10 gameplay
do retards actually believe this?

>>715648829
Anon.
"Exits to EAST and NORTH" is gameplay
"You are in a twisty little maze of many passages, all alike" is visuals

Bananza has the nintendo bonus, nostalgia bonus and cunny bonus

>>715649827
Balatro was quaint and fun.

>>715649851
Yes, because normals are superficial and like to be impressed by le pretty things, meanwhile gameplay suffers

>>715649427
If youre an actual nurse good for you.
If its anything "mental health" or planned parenthood you're doing society a great disservice.

>>715650074
>meanwhile gameplay suffers
It should, it's secondary after all, being the second part of the name video"games"

>>715649957
>turn-based games can't have good gameplay

>>715650145
This is how things like gacha proliferate, secondaries like you.

>>715650212
You're the secondary anon, you prefer the secondary part of video games

It's in the name, VIDEO, then games, ergo video > game

>>715649935
it's not sustainable for nintendo to allow monolith to waste time on 3mil max cap xenoblade and they should work on big games like zelda and mario exclusively

>>715650330
Adjective then noun :^)

>>715648643
NTA - I love sports.
But there's a lot you can do in video games that you just can't in real life.
Either it's impossible, dangerous, or too expensive.

>>715648906
visual novels aren't games.

>>715650378
First > second dumbass

>>715650506
Stay in school youngin

>>715645141 (OP)
Astroturf 33 sisters... n-not like this...!

>>715650381
Then you understand how games offer many possibilities books do not

>>715650621
It's Stellar Blade all over again

>>715647285
>terrible balancing in a single player game
Who fucking cares
Sotn, FFT, diablo 2 all had terrible balancing and 10/10 gameplay.

Who is behind the schizo anti E33 posting?

>>715650192
people don't play chess for the thrill of moving the pieces

>>715650564
You're the one that doesn't like reading tardo

>>715650794
Who is posting all the E33 threads?

>>715651075
You'll get the hang of it little guy

>>715650794
Tendies fearing their daddy will lose GOTY AGAIN

>>715650794
Farquaad

>>715650660
Elaborate.
What are you getting out of video game stories that you find lacking in books?

>>715650997
>moving the goalposts
It's still gameplay, fucktard. Gameplay doesn't mean "high octane explosions and twitch reflexes."

>>715651313
Why did I assume you'd know how to read my post, you're illiterate and hate reading, my bad

>>715645141 (OP)
Which games is FUNNER to play? DK

>>715651646
This dude never played a good game in his life

>>715651656
gameplay is most readily defined as the moment-to-moment inputs and actions of playing a game
if the majority of the interfacing with a game takes place with you going "hmmm, I wonder what I should do next" before finally selecting an option, that's a form of gameplay that is not inherently compelling and takes place more outside of the game than within it
sorry you can't cope with facts
also chess is a solved game and isn't really that fun either once you hit a high enough level

>>715651137
the people that played the highly acclaimed game that recently came out

>>715651973
If you're an ADD child, sure

>>715652154
>gameplay is most readily defined as the moment-to-moment inputs and actions of playing a game
No it's not, you're just fucking stupid

Hundreds of turn based PC classics mog your ADD bing bing wahoo shit into the ground

>clair obscur
>10/10 gameplay and story
ROFLMAO

>>715645141 (OP)
>story
You seem to have missed a giant part of video game history. Specifically, the error of arcade games. Without which there would be no Home console games.

If you want a story, read a book, or watch a movie, and stop fucking up games with bullshit cutscenes.

>>715652419
If you want gameplay go outside and play a sport

>>715645141 (OP)
>DK
>10/10 graphics and music

It looks like switch 1 game and runs at 30 fps.

>>715651895
:^)

>>715652072
Are you being defensive because you don't have an answer?

>>715648323
Why the fuck is /v/ suddenly infested with story-obsessed trannies? Did Bananza trigger the Snoys extra hard this time?
>inb4 >suddenly

>>715652154
Chess has gameplay and the majority of Chess is the
>hm I wonder what I should do next
Which is OBJECTIVELY engaging with the game. You might not find it compelling (because you're a fucking brainlet), but a game forcing you to strategize to overcome it is you engaging with the gameplay. And the division of "it's in your head rather than the game" is nonsensical because what are your fucking reflexes, dumbass?
You're basically saying that any strategy or puzzle game is shit, which is fucking retarded and deranged. You're just moving the goalposts and coming up with nonsense.

>>715652494
>want gameplay go outside and play
Yes. You're on the right track retard.

There are games you play with your body, and there are games you play with your mind. Chess, puzzles, politics.

Want to exercise your body? Play sports. Want to exercise your mind? Play games.

>>715652726
>reading a visual novel is gameplay because you're engaging with the game
your definition is even more fucking retarded, kill yourself

>>715650131
No im a medical lab scientist. I test blood and whatnot.

>>715645370
Cry more tendie it'll never be on your leapfrog tablet

>>715650479
I think the only visual novel I ever played was phoenix wright

>>715652864
Nice strawman, but that's not even close to anything I said. Again, you're just making up nonsense to "prove" a retarded point.

>>715645141 (OP)
I can only assume DK gets a 10 because it's a short and simple game that allows game reviewers to actually be able to complete it and move on with the game. Meanwhile, e33 is pretty long and requires the player to pay attention.

>>715652717
Kill yourself incest freak.

>>715653271
DK gets a 10 because Nintendo makes fun games instead of chudcel crap, sweaty. :3

>>715653076
>that's not close to anything I said
>Chess has gameplay...hm I wonder what I should do next, Which is OBJECTIVELY engaing with the game.
lol we're done here

>>715645141 (OP)
That would make it even better since you wouldn't even need to skip the cutscenes.

>>715653832
>a game having strategy and tactics means it doesn't have gameplay
What kind of fucking retard are you? Because a player thinks about the game "outside of the game" (whatever the fuck you mean by that), it doesn't count as gameplay/the gameplay is shit? Do your synapses not fire when you press a button normally? Do you go through life with your brain literally turned off?
Having to strategize and figure out a solution to a problem is engaging with a game. If you think that somehow applies to a visual novel, which is just reading text, it says more about your struggles with literacy than anything.

>>715652726
Exactly this. People acting like gameplay only exists if you're mashing buttons at 60fps are the same ones who get filtered by literally anything that isn't a cinematic corridor shooter. The internal thought process, the decision-making, the way a game forces you to parse problems and adapt-that IS gameplay. Whether it's pushing pawns or pushing pixels, if you're actively engaging, you're playing. Cope harder if all you want is flashy lights and QTEs.

>>715645141 (OP)
I forget who said that stories in video games are like stories in porn. You don't need them, but a good story can take something and elevate it.

This got posted by Pirat_Nation and the X consensus is no.

>>715645370
Same I don't get it. It really does feel like a big act.

>>715647906
Yes?

>>715645141 (OP)
none of those are 10s. especially not E33 which is a 7/10 at best

>>715657758
Have you played E33? It is genuinely unbelievably fucking good in literally every respect. There’s a reason it’s the highest user rated game of all time on every major website.

>>715648559
>>715647906
>>715649957
Friendly reminder virtually every popular sport irl is turn based.
>Baseball
Turn Based
>Football (American)
Turn based
>Golf
Turn based
>Tennis
Turn based
>Chess
Turn based

If you don’t like turn based gameplay you are just dumb lol.

>>715649159
Exactly. So people actually like E33 for what it is, while they let nintendos past influence their opinion of DKB.

>>715659856
Counterpoint is that people are often harsher on companies with more legacy because they’re held to way higher standards. This isn’t particularly exclusive to Nintendo either, virtually every long running franchise has tons of people fucking hating the newer entries for not living up to what they think it should.

>>715660297
Nah Nintendo just gets jerked off by everyone regardless of what they do

>>715652717
Tell me what is the first game with no story you see here.

>>715661121
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze scored like 10 points lower than Rayman Legends despite both being very similar quality because people were mad it wasn’t a Metroid game and didn’t have the villains from the Rare era games.

>>715662563
4. ALTTP
>b-but you have to rescue the princess and defeat Bows- I mean, Ganon
no

>>715658571
>every popular sport irl is turn based
>posts a list of the most boring sports imaginable

>>715658027
>There’s a reason it’s the highest user rated game of all time on every major website
yeah because the CEO's father is a french billionaire
and his good friend President Macron of France literally drew attention to the game's metacritic user score out of nowhere in front of the press lmao

>>715645141 (OP)
Nintendo fags are literal cultists.

>>715665514
They are, but I'm rooting for them over the slop 33 shill squad

>>715645141 (OP)
Expedition 33 is like bird box. Mega garbagio.

No one gives a shit after a Month.

Dk bananza is an 7/10.

Expedition 33 is a 6/10

Before you bitch know that demons souls was considered a 8/10 game at the time.