Post games that are about mega-structures and/or brutalist architecture

>>715654004 (OP)
My BBC

>>715654004 (OP)
obligatory post mentioning naissancee

>>715654004 (OP)
literally just Control

>>715654250
Fpbp

interesting thread (actually surprising)
>>715654308
I'm curious about this

>>715654665
https://store.steampowered.com/app/265690/NaissanceE/

I want it to be what it should be, but what it should be isn't a good or sane game to make.

the sheer scale of a Megastructure abhors being turned into a videogame, ironically all the Megastructure game's I've played are incredibly short, I think Dollsnest might be the longest one there is.

the entire aesthetic is a machine so vast, that your understanding of its vastness is constantly eclipsed by the next understanding, and the vast loneliness and sheer comical scale of the machine giving the feel of the setting.

most fail at even giving you a taste, or they are nonsensical cube rooms like in Manifold Garden, which just comes off as magical instead of Megastructure-esque.

The Citadel, Beyond Citadel, and probably whatever else that madman is up to next.

>>715654004 (OP)
INSOMNIA: The Ark

Does a mini-megastructure count?

>>715655235
Stray is a megastructure, you notice outside its one of many bubbles, all of which served some other function long ago.

>>715655235
I guess only the opening has the right vibe

>>715655235
a cat is fine too

>>715655396
what? the whole game is a trash city built inside of some sort of megastructure facility that no longer functions.

a core component of the Megastructure aesthetic is people building civilizations inside of structures so vast that they have no concept of the machine they are even in.

>>715655512
Based off OP and the thread yesterday he wants giant expanses of verticality.

>>715654004 (OP)
Anon, we just had this thread earlier today. It was great but wait a week before posting it again.

i'd be interested in playing a game that has, say, a seemingly endless giant mega lab just like the one in Dexters Laboratory

>>715655697
the roof is like a mile and a half high, its pretty talk.

I feel as though these threads are popping up because there were 2 that were engaging a week ago and now some anons want to desperately recapture that feeling by constantly retreading familiar territory.

>>715656253
Did you forget where we are?

lorns lure

>>715656253
>threads were engaging a week (or 2 hours) ago and now some anons want to desperately recapture that feeling by constantly retreading familiar territory.
That's post 2014 4channel

>>715656253
Man shut up and post about games

>>715654004 (OP)
Peripeteia

>>715654004 (OP)
once im done with my current commision i intend to make a game with similar architecture to blame

>>715657451
>Peripeteia
this looks gre-
>early access
FUCK DUDE. I FUCKING HATE MODERN "GAMING" SO MUCH

>>715654004 (OP)
Dolls Nest

>>715657598
its pretty good for what its worth right now but desu if early access bothers you just pirate it.

>>715657927
>its pretty good for what its worth right now but desu if early access bothers you just pirate it.
how complete is it? how long can i expect it to be?

>>715654718
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/265690/NaissanceE/
Thank you fren. I love her breathing.

>>715654004 (OP)
Dolls Nest

>>715658126
>I love her breathing.
other anon here, i hated that part
the weird breathing turned me off of trying the game

>>715655012
Ruined by guru.

>>715657451
GOG RELEASE WHEN???

Manifold Garden

reposting from previous thread cause i liked the discussion about this

You know what would be cool?
If the logic and "rules" behind which the megastructure of BlamE! were used to procedurally generate a world the size of a Minecraft world(and no, im not talking about putting procedural generation in the game itself, im talking about using it to generate the map during development, once done the map would be the same for everyone), and make it multuplayer, where each player is placed in a random point in the map.
Also, make it a toroid so the map loops onto itself and has no physical edge any player can reach.
This should, at least in theory, create an actual world for players to explore and discover which would take many IRL years to fully explore.

One could argue the amount of players would make it a trivial endeavour, but first and foremost, the size of a Minecraft world is literally larger than earth, so even with several tens of millions of players, the chances of all of them successfully organizing to explore the entire map are infinitesimal, and secondly, such game wouldn't really have that many players anyway.

Now add a way in the game to leave permanent messages, and i think we'd have a nice game.

>>715658356
>GOG
what for?
You can get it on itch.io (which also gives you a steam key), and even if you do get it on steam, it's DRM free anyway(read, does not need steam running and you can launch it from the exe even without steam running)

>>715655012
>>715657451
I ship them

>>715658608
Because I don't have an itch.io account, don't want to deal with it and won't be giving money to gayben. Ever since the UI update that fucked performance I haven't spent a cent on gayben and it ain't gonna be this game that's gonna change that.
I want to pay for it cause I like what I see so far, but I won't jump through hoops for that.

>>715657451
exactly my kind of game
thanks anon
It reminds me of the cyberpunk future levels of Mortyr

>>715656253
>I missed good giga-structure threads
FUCK

>>715658608
I believe the joke is they are both from Poland.

>>715656436
Seconding this

>>715658847
>Ever since the UI update that fucked performance I haven't spent a cent on gayben
what kind of potato pc are you even using that any steam update from the past 10 years would cause any perceptible performance loss?
i have steam running 24/7 on my living room pc with a first gen ryzen and an rx580 and there's no performance loss
>I want to pay for it cause I like what I see so far, but I won't jump through hoops for that.
waiting for it to be put on GOG is literally more hoops to jumo trhough than either buying it on steam or making a itch io account, don't pretent it's not

ECHO

>>715659558
ECHO has really nice aesthetics, but I found the balance between combat and stealth to be awful.

>>715659540
>performance loss
I don't have any either, I just don't like huge zoomer buttons made for touch screens. Back then it had the most replies out of any thread on the steam forums and they ignored it. All I wanted was an option in the settings to revert back to the proper UI and they couldn't be arsed. Now I can't be arsed to spend money in there either and fuck gayben. They're not entitled to my money.
>waiting (AKA doing literally nothing at all) is somehow more work than making an itch.io account
Except it's not?

>>715654004 (OP)
Gravity Rush

>>715654004 (OP)
Babbdi

Destiny 2 has some good megastructures but that requires you to play destiny 2

>>715659558
dropped that game after an hour and a half
is there anything more to it besides the
>your clones learn the things you do while the lights are on
gimmick?

Necromunda: Hired Gun takes place in a 30 mile wide and 10 mile high "Hive City" thousands of years old, and, while the gameplay is just a janky Doom Eternal, every single level looks amazing

>>715659861
>Ever since the UI update that fucked performance
>UI update that fucked performance
>"but anon, the performance is fine"
>it's not the performance, i dont like the UI
first, stop moving the goalpost
second, no one forces you to launch games like that, you can literally launch steam in minimal mode and never see that UI at all and launch your games from the game list

>Except it's not?
waiting an indefinite amount of time for a game you do want to play to be released on a platform it will likely never be released on is indeed jumping through several unnecessary loops instead of spending literally 30 seconds to make an account to get the game right now, yes

>>715654004 (OP)
I dreamed of making a game set on Blame!'s universe, but you only find another player after 8 hours of gameplay

>>715660683 (samefag)
>in the grim darkness of the 41st Millenium, there is only DOS

>>715660873
read >>715658381

>>715660723
>muh goalpost
There's no goalpost here. I'm not using steam anymore and that's my personal decision. You're the one asking for my reasoning on it.
I don't care if there's ways around it, if I'm paying for a service then I don't want to have to adapt the way I use that service because the provider changed it for the worse, I can just not pay and go do something else with my life and spend my money elsewhere.
>waiting somehow takes effort
I can play the game right now, I have the power of the seven seas on my side. I said I want a GOG release because I'd be willing to pay for content I enjoy and want more of. Not because I want to play the game, I already have that.

Glimpse into the megastructure game im making, goal is a structure with real depth not cosmetic textures and skyboxes that pretend you're inside a megastructure, you are actually in one and if you can see it you can go there. Basic premise is basically like shadow of the colossus, travel through the structure with free roam searching for bosses etc. Early days but we spent 4 months programming how the environment will be built from smaller segments meshed together in a practical navigable way

The Termitary in Pathologic 1 and 2
And also the Polyhedron

The Halo games

Most of them litterally takes place on megastructures, and the entire Forerunner architectural aesthetic is inspired by Brutalism

>>715654004 (OP)
Does Shadow of the Colossus and Ico count? I never went to building school.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2240530/BABBDI/

pretty interesting free game

>>715654004 (OP)

>>715661123
>>715658381
Wtf the Netsphere is real, also add some Silicon Life encounters and it's perfect

>>715654004 (OP)
I love megalophobia structures. They are always really cool. We don't have enough in the world

>>715660057
Great game.

>>715654004 (OP)
so is the manga any good or should I skip it

blame isn't good. It's just kinda...meh. The author has done better work

>>715656253
the threads will continue until morale improves.

>>715658381
>and no, im not talking about putting procedural generation in the game itself, im talking about using it to generate the map during development, once done the map would be the same for everyone)
You DO mean putting procedural generation in the game. And locking it to one seed. Because you're not going to ship a game with hundreds of terabytes of map data for no reason.

Also, congrats, for you just re-invented No Man's Sky but with even less varierty and things to do.

>>715664147
>Also, congrats, for you just re-invented No Man's Sky but with even less varierty and things to do.
if thats what you think the end result would be, you have a complete fucked up interpretation of what that anon meant

>>715662672
That doesn't seem canon...

half-life 1, black mesa is a megastructure

>>715664684
That is what it is, tech-wise.
Sorry for being reductive but the blame! megastructure doesn't carry a game as well as you'd like to think. The manga is good for reasons that don't translate well to game, especially not to sandboxes.

And by the way, the next procslop game from hello games is going to be on a single real size planet.
Their third game might as well be a similarly sized megastructure. They've got the tech and knowledge to make it happen.

>>715654004 (OP)
E.Y.E. has some fuckhuge level design. Not intentionally mega-structure or anything, but has a similar vibe in some levels.

>>715664746
better yet it's a sequel

>>715664984
>Sorry for being reductive but the blame! megastructure doesn't carry a game as well as you'd like to think.
im the anon who reposted that "game idea", and nowhere in my post i implied i want the megastructure from blame! to be made into a game.
i did mention blame! cause of the logic behind which the city and the megastructures are created, where they don't need to have a purpose in human terms, despite being fundamentally based in human culture of how structures should be made.
or to say differently, what i'd suggest taking from blame! is just the "algorythm" and logic of how the city is built to use it to procedurally generate a whole world, giving it rules similar to those minecraft uses to generate worlds that are selfconsistent.
With a decent set of rules and with a properly implemented intelligent procedurally generated level design, the result would be far from "No Man's Sky but with even less varierty and things to do.", it'd be something akin to NaissanceE and Kairo, but with fully explorable environments and tons and tons of secret and interesting areas to discover.

Obviously, in the cases of these games the fun and interesting factors are extremely subjective: i would love to spend hours and hours exploring some of the structures found in NaissanceE, deciding to go not where the main path leads but far beyond what the actual map shows, just to see how such would would become in that direction, what lies below or above certain structures etc, that would be extremely fun for me, but for others, even walking 5 minutes in NaissanceE is extremely boring.

In this sense, a NaissanceE empty world where all i can do is explore it and maybe leave picture messages in a bullettin board for other people to know where this or that coool place i found is would be, to me at least, far more fun and interesting to explore than the entirety of the possible planets in No Man's Sky with its plethora of mechanics and things to do.

I'm working on one.
sage

>>715666137
>a decent set of rules and with a properly implemented intelligent procedurally generated level design
The people who could hope to do this idea any justice can be counted with one hand.

>it'd be something akin to NaissanceE and Kairo, but with fully explorable environments and tons and tons of secret and interesting areas to discover.
Yyyeeaaahhh.... Trust me on this one, you're never getting that human-authored feel from proc-genned slop.

Still, it's not the worst idea to try to codify the construction logic of a blame!-like megastructure into the basics of a world generator and work from that first principle. Barely any assets required, just a lot of engine programming. It would be a feasible game project for some notch-like millennial programmer who grew up making games for fun in the early x86 era.
Given the interest in the concept, I feel it is inevitable that someone will make a procgen blame! game. Only a matter of time. If the end product's any good, there's hope. But if the concept doesn't pan out, that'd probably drive potential copycats away from the idea.

>>715666137
You could try modding this into Minecraft.

>>715668902
Minecraft with something like Cubic Chunks and Distant Horizons would unironically be perfect for it, it's just a matter of tweaking the proc gen rules to generate terrain resembling structures, and creating enough interesting structure/greebling premades for it to slap down on top of that

Rain World

>>715660683
Reminds me that hard reset exists

>>715669540
Best suggestion but no one is gonna understand why unless they already played it

I don't know if it counts, but I really loved the scale of Septimont in Wuthering Waves. Maybe it's just because I'm used to vidya cities being extremely restricted.

>>715654308
Based.
Loved that game.

Ghostrunner, you're inside a giant skyscraper and you have to climb it
https://youtu.be/rCFJYR2ngIk

>>715661898
bro do you even greeble

does Rain World count?

>>715672189
>>715669783
>>715669540

>>715669540
I keep getting killed at the third cycle. I'm just not good enough.

The appeal of Blame has been lost since pewdiepie talked about it

Abe's Exoddus
Oddysee not so much because it's more natural and forest-y than the giant facilities of Exoddus

>>715675348
I didn't want to share this with anyone so fuck you for making me. I will not elaborate.

>>715670823
>speedtranny garbage

>>715675521
>blame used to be a cool underground manga for patricians
>now if you talk about it you get "hurr durr that's pewdiepies favourite manga brofist"

>>715675660
Just searched my database of posts for "pewdiepie", 0 results.
Do NOT ask why I have a database of posts regarding this subject.

>>715658034
>how complete is it?
It's pretty jenky mang, been playing it and there's tons of bugs and glitches. If you don't mind that I'd recommend it, but I'm only on the 3rd mission and I'm already struggling with how many enemies have bugged out and how there doesn't seem to be any coherent narrative string between the missions so far. The first mission had a clear objective, you need to get a train ticket. The second mission I get off the train station and just have to faff about wondering what to do until I finally talk to a guy who tells me I need to assassinate some political figure. Wondering the entire time why my character is doing this. Doesn't seem to be any motivation. Same with the third mission, I'm dropped into the area without an objective and I just have to talk to people to find out what the developers intend for me to do on this mission but there doesn't seem to be a story reason for the character to be participating in the events. No journal entry, no mission briefing, nothing. Just confused wandering.

>>715660269
Go hunting for tuning forks that explain the mystery.

>>715659779
Honestly, if I could I would mod ECHO to just have no combat so that it could be a pure walking simulator. Definitely worth looking at, but not sure the gameplay holds up well.

Nice, another thread.
>>715655012
And Marathon, see
>>715626826

>>715675512
been ages since I've played it but wasn't that just some ore mine / detention camp?

>>715654004 (OP)
Factorio Py mod (no trains/city block)

>>715675925
thanks man. i gave the demo a shot, i love the atmosphere, they really nailed it, but it is pretty damn janky indeed. i'll probably play some more later

>>715675745
Why do you have a database of posts regarding this subject?

>>715676324
I'm so glad you asked!
see >>715668465

>>715657453
post your @

>>715676114
sis there's a whole game after Necron

doll's nest setting is kind of like the netsphere

The Tower of Akenash in Styx MoS.

>>715675745
He's done a whole video about it to millions

>>715675660
>>715679430
Blame was always big. It's like claiming berserk is getting a little too popular these days. It's on fucking netflix lol

>>715669540
I should get back to Rain World.

>>715679613
Didn't use to be like this lil normalfag zoom
It's like when people can't comprehend Jojo used to be genuinely fantastic and obscure, then part 3 got accessible to Americans and it went downhill from there

>>715660683
>Recent Reviews: Mixed (40)
>All Reviews: Mixed (5,484)
>3/5 stars

>>715654718
The reviews make this sound like some ultra gay San Francisco art gallery fart sniffing situation.

>>715655112
Looks cool, is the game actually good?

>ctrl f e.y.e
>not 0/0
good

>>715679776
>then part 3 got accessible to Americans
Whining jojo got ruined by hamburger people in fucking 1993? You're on the site that was stealing all the road roller flash memes from 2ch and giggling about it. We did that.

>>715679824
Its main gimmick is a lot of slide-moving to avoid enemy fire and basically looter shooter mechanics w upgrades. It's still fun, but the AI is pretty bad, and virtually every FPS has both of those mechanics nowadays so it just comes across as mediocre, on top of being full priced.

>>715680182
>im a newfag so everyone else is too
Grim

I like how Killy's gun causes localized gravitational collapses by fucking with the artificial gravity in the structure. What a cool gun.

>>715666137
I think the best way to build this that is actually practical is a hybrid approach, similar to a Tile based procedural system.
So you hand make a bunch of iconic locations.
Then you let the proc gen connect them with things its good at building, hallways, staircases, large gorges and crevasses between buildings. That sort of thing. You'd want the procgen to still be interesting enough that they aren't boring to traverse on their own, but it takes some of the load off from it building everything.

Rengoku is a total meme

Dolls Nest counts with its environments and how the Hod is just one large structure within a crater. Some of the skybox haze betrays this idea though especially on the the mid and lower levels. I cba to get a pic this late at night so enjoy my Doll instead.

>>715656253
I'm happy to see Blame! threads because I had finished re-reading the manga two days ago and it's nice to see that what's going on in my head is still being broadcast over the netsphere.

The Portal games are great at this
The trick is not to actually design a megastructure, but give the impression of one, that you'll never be able to fully explore the whole thing

I would play a game about megastructure exploring only if it had Sanakan in it.

>>715654004 (OP)

I've always wanted to play a game like this but based on H.P. Lovecraft's where you discover and explore ruined ancient underground civilizations that are derelict with no apparent signs of life until you venture downwards at which point you encounter eldritch abominations and you're goal is to now escape!!!FACT!!!

>>715662672
What is this?

>>715682675
oh yeah, especially in 2

Imagine.

>>715670823
wish 2 had any reason at all for me to play it over the first but I liked the first at least

forever winter

>>715655012
he has to be making a Citadel Trilogy

>>715662672
>>715665683
Reverse search isn't giving me anything, what is this from?

>>715658252
you can turn it off in the settings if you're that much of a faggot pussy

anyone played bleak faith: forsaken? it's been on my wishlist for a while but hasnt gotten cheap enough for me to buy

>>715654308
This game fucking sucks. It looks nice, but it felt 15 hours long despite lasting on 4, and not in a good way.

games for this?

>>715675348
When? In 2017? Or december 2023? It seems to have steady amount of searchs starting that time.

>>715686397
artist is kikimetal
it's porn

>>715689647
>that massive spike
HMMMMM

>>715690349
I thought it was recent. Anyway, Heavy Metal comics (from 60s to the 90s, not the new one) had already a lot of these industrialpunk feeling before Blame! was created.

>>715690349
2017 is when the film was released

Japs make some good art and games about sci-fi post-apoc, can you recommend something to read? With or without megastructures

>>715689989
...that was something. I kind of regret reading it.

>>715672060
Not necessary till later in development I'd rather have a massive environment working first, though i don't want too much as I'd like most things the player sees to be "real" and functional in some aspect not just cosmetics

>>715693964
It's fairly tame all things considered.

Is Control actually good? Seems pretty walking simulator-esque
>inb4 all they do in blame is walk around
You know what I mean

>>715695696
Decent game, doesn't overstay its welcome, and you'll get it from pennies on sales by now (currently 5 bongbucks with all DLC). Just dont expect Max Payne and don't care about the tranny jaw.

>>715689546
deus ex md/hr

how do you even make a BLAME! video game? it's impossible

>>715696591
>it's impossible
Not really. Manga is quite short. You don't need to reconstruct megastructure 1 to 1

>>715696591
Curated linear experience with extremely detailed environments to sell you the idea of size without actually letting you explore everything. But most things that you come across. Like in AC6, some of the megastructure you can crawl all over and find secret stashes in or even extra enemies to fight, but the goal is always something else.
>Go to place
>Open a path or find a way around a cave-in or a builder building, or a staircase that you ascend
>Begin ascending the stairfase
>fade to black, message [232 hours have passed]
>you're in a new area

>>715654308
The first third was kino
Second third was okay
Last third was dogshit

>>715658608
Because I don't want to have the jewish software known as steam on my pc, capiche?

>>715654004 (OP)
Walk alone for 5k years
Run into someone, get very hurt, shoot g8unonce have to power down for 1k years

Yeah great game

>>715697003
>>715696935
a corridor game would work?

>>715658381
If you think about it even for a second this idea falls completely flat since there's no way to fill such game world with meaningful content.
>quantity over quality
Nobody is going to slog through endless similar looking hallways for years in hopes of finding some hidden stuf. Action/reward balance is completely fucked.

tl;dr: your idea is shit even on paper

>>715656436
Hadn't seen anyone post this in any of these threads, was about to myself.
Lorn's Lure and Meganaut both are looking great so far, dev has his head screwed on right.

Fuck it, tired and can't sleep. I want my autistic mashup game with conflicting ideas that don't make sense. Take the climbing mega structure themes of Lorns lure/white knuckle, add non environmental editing ramshackle survival of abiotic factor, and lastly add the radio signal focus of signalis/voices of the void.

I want to spend hours and hours in a depression simulator of loneliness and fear in a comfy sleeping bag listening to a radio in case my sector is about to fucking explode.

>>715697914
>day when nothing is happening, just the occasional burst of high intensity static and EM waves because of the gravity forge nearby
>suddenly safeguards
>okay, that's a handful, you can handle that
>matter conversion tower hundreds of miles above you lights up like a fucking christmas tree
>golly me that is a lot of safeguards
>the entire fucking level is now safeguards
>and they're all running somewhere, somewhere that thankfully isn't where you are at
>they leave
>several minutes later, the familiar emissions begin sounding, but from a completely opposite direction
>one, two, three, four, five
>seconds later five massive holes are made in your immediate vicinity by an incomprehensible force you cannot explain
>nothing more happens that day

>>715697914
with VR support please.

>>715661898
keep it up

I want to eventually make an underground city/megastructure game, guess I should check out more related media

>>715677670
based styx enjoyer

>>715661898
is it like BLAME! where you walk for hours and all of sudden there's enemies

>>715699993
"Walk for hours" sells it short in Blame!. Usually they're walking for years.

>>715700130
>for years
yeah, sorry

i don't know if this is a good idea but it popped into my head anyway.
musing on how to handle saving and quitting in this sort of game with incomprehensible scale, perhaps it would be a neat (but potentially annoying) feature to only allow quitting the game when you put down a campsite and make a solid save- and you could have the camping system be overly detailed.

>>715700313
have options. 1 for saving where you leave off. 2 its perma. you quit, you get placed at a new random place and pick up from there.

>>715700313
No. It should instead work by placing you further away from the point where you had quit and saved because your character ends up traveling offscreen.

>>715697759
>Lorn's Lure and Meganaut both are looking great
LL is a linear platforming game, besides the first two levels it's just not worth it. And meganaut is all about "flying" extremely slowly through corridors. The dev has the skills yet none of the competency to make a real blame! game

>>715700130
Is there a blame anime and if yes is it worth watching?

>>715700313
that would probably just be annoying. I feel like this is something that has been solved for a while already and that sort of feature should be used for something like respawn points instead.

>>715654004 (OP)
Metal Garden, game was alright. Had ok gameplay but liked the ambiance of it a lot.

and what kind of game would you make set in a megastructure(s)?

>>715700520
There is and it is not worth watching. It gets a lot of things wrong and completely misses the point of it and its atmosphere. Read the fucking manga, it's not long and it's very well drawn.

Meanwhile, in the /v/ tower...

>>715700734
Personally, I'd like to see a semi-procedural generated survival game that leans heavily into exploration with some RPG aspects (inventory/ressource, character management as well as skill progression). Gathering resources from nearby floors or parcels should be integrated into the main game loop, which allows your camp, which later develops into a small settlement, to survive maybe for another year. There would be periodic raids from hostile creatures or factions. Also the environment itself would be an enemy which you constantly have to fight.

>>715697914
This is basically what im planning bro, though will start of small, content will be added overtime once the foundation is set (which it nearly is)