which one is better and why?

>>715654346 (OP)
The first one, because it's shorter and thus doesn't outstay its welcome. I like Hotline Miami's gameplay, but nothing warrants it being 10 hours. Just my opinion

>>715654482
>10 hours
it is 4 hours at best if you are not a complete retard

>>715654346 (OP)
1 just cause of the freedom you're given. You can use the same bonus or none at all whereas 2 forces you to pick between stricter styles for most missions.

>>715654346 (OP)
1 and it's not even close

>>715654346 (OP)
ones more coherent and playing as jacket mogs the maskless characters

>>715654482
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>>715654852
why the 2 hate? i thought it had better ost and the story is more interesting i honestly dont get it

>>715654346 (OP)
2, it even has a level creator

>>715654346 (OP)
1 is more fun to play but 2 has a better story and soundtrack.

>>715654930
>people say they prefer 1
>WHY THE HATE AGAINST 2???
Holy fucking reddit.

>>715654979
what makes 1 more fun to play in your opinion?

>>715654346 (OP)
I tried playing the first and it was a fucking miserable experience. Shit visuals, shit gameplay, shit music, shit story dripping with pretentious fart-sniffing wank. No idea why people like this slop.

>>715655031
Dont be disingenuous, everyone knows 2 is hated more than youd expect

>>715654979
Hard disagree. 1 has a really unsettling, bizarre soundtrack that fits the game perfectly. 2 is just standard synthwave.

>>715654979
i didn't mean the anons hate 2, but i just saw many people that hate 2 on here.

>>715654346 (OP)
1 is a lot more tight and focused. The game's general design kind of shits the bed when the maps get too big and open, this was already apparent in a couple levels in 1 and then 2 went "but what if we went opener and biggerer." Which predictably worked out great for the levels' flow.

>>715655303
You tried to put the word hate in people's mouth because they uttered their preference. There is nothing more disingenuous than you. Also stop projecting your experience onto everything and everyone.

>>715654930
The reason for the "2 hate" is well known here. The abundance of large, open levels and windows means that, at least on a first playthrough, the pace of the game is slowed down dramatically. Whereas the first game was very fast and free flowing where you went from room-to-room mostly meleeing opponents, the second game has you playing far more cautiously and carefully until you memorize the levels. It's not what people who loved the first game wanted from a sequel and, frankly, it's just not as fun.
>story
2 has "more" story, but that's not necessarily a good thing. A convoluted story that jumps around across time and across multiple characters, including unreliable narration and secret plot points just isn't what a game like Hotline Miami needs. Most people played the first game completely oblivious to the deeper plot involving the 50 Blessings - they played it for the fast, frantic gameplay and just attributed what little plot there was to a character who was crazy and/or fucked up on drugs. That's as far as it needed to go. Doubling down on the "plot" in HM2 was a risky way to go considering that's just not why people were playing the game to begin with.

1 is better but I I'm glad the second one is significantly different. I always feel like a sequel that is too much of the same just waters down both games.

>>715654930
what did you find more interesting about the story?

>>715655052
You're free to play with any mask you want instead of being forced into a certain gimmick playstyle every level.

>>715654930
1 feels more coherent while 2 is much more all over the place. 2 has huge levels and you often die from enemies off-screen even if you use shift to look around. 1 has less of a story, but because it's so abstract I feel like it heightens the effect of the violence and the game's overall aesthetic. 2 has an actual story and characters, but I can't say that they're great. I feel like being left in the dark about what's actually going on and Hotline Miami being this mood piece really worked great for the first one.
I actually don't think that people hate 2, it's just that most prefer 1.
Oh, and a lot of music in 2 doesn't loop unlike 1 (at least it didn't on release)

>>715654482
>I like the game but maaaan I don't want to play 10 full hours of it!
Just admit that you like the idea of liking the game but don't enjoy playing it

I enjoyed playing Gothic for several hours but the bugs ruined these games for me. I just hate playing with fear that a game can crash or bug out.

This fucker made me want to play the Crew even though it's dead.

>>715654346 (OP)
I like the tropical psychedelic feeling of 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nut_1x2tZ8

>>715654346 (OP)
1 is the better game, but 2 has a better soundtrack.

>>715655359
They are both synthwave, you pretentious bugger, with 5 artists from the first also being sampled in the sequel. The 2nd just has double the OST.
How is Fahkeet or Ms. Minnie in any way less "unsettling" than anything in the first game?
I swear, dudes only remember Hydrogen from the first one and think that this is how the whole soundtrack is.

>>715656051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVblOqZBlJw

remember when 2 came out, and, on release, the scope was completely broken, some levels with son literally couldn't be finished, and they used the wrong song on a level?
remember when they said you will be able to make your own HM3 with the level editor, wrote 1 blog post about using it, then dipped, and all the sprite editing and shit has to be done through an external program they didn't make?
remember the cutscene editor in the level editor is still a broken mess?
remember when they mainly advertised the game as being about the fans and pig butcher, and then butcher dies in 1 level?
remember when a bunch of comics came out to hype up the release, and they all turned out non-canon?
remember when people were hyped here on /v/, posting shit like their biker cosplays and making fanart with the pink & blue aesthetic, and then the game had none of it?
remember "first blood"? remember "demolition"? remember "takeover"?
yeah, i'm thinking it's 1 because.. it's not shit.

>>715655467
I might be misremembering, but I think that the 50 blessings stuff was more of an easter egg. Like the devs were basically saying
>Oh, you want it to make sense? Sure, you're fighting for a nationalist organisation that wants to take back America from the Russians
Like it doesn't even feel fully real or genuine since it didn't explain much about Jacket or the switcheroo with Biker and so on.
I also feel like Jacket looking at some unknown photo was actually more impactful than learning what it really was in 2.

>>715656604
oh yeah, and, remember the boss in "subway"?

>>715654346 (OP)
Both are good.

The second is slightly better cause of hard mode.

what's your favourite
>character
>level
>mask
>soundtrack

>>715654346 (OP)
Both are shit, the gameplay loop isn't fun especially since the controls are slippery and the cursor is practically invisible

>>715654930
I don't give a fuck about the story, I want to kill people while wearing funny masks. I played an hour and a half of the dogshit levels in 2 and none of the masks even fucking do anything

>>715656936
Richter
The one with Le Perv
Rat
Le Perv
>tfw when Le Perv syncs just right

>>715654346 (OP)
Midwits say 1, the people that know how to play Hotline Miami at the intended level of skill say 2

>>715656507
he's right, somewhat. the level tracks in 1 were mostly the same 4 by moon, which had a trance-like tone to them and were generally more somber and cold (if you get what i mean), fitting with the mindless brutalism in jacket's actions. 2's tracks, however, vary more but generally are either more thumping or solemn, either way got you pumped up to blast shit off or be dramatic, depending on the characters and storyline. only the disco level and biker's level in 1 had music similiar in tone-setting to what 2 would have. similiarly richter's and martin's levels (maybe aside the prison levels) has tracks that were closer to the first game

>>715656936
>Manny pardo
>Apocalypse is kino
>Jake's mask
>Le perv

>>715654930
>preferring 1 means you're hating on 2
Nigger you are fucking retarded

>>715656051
Horse Stepping is a really long song that gets pretty weird. It's sad that you only ever hear the first 5 seconds of it in Hotline Miami because nobody lingers on the main menu.

Untitled - Green Kingdom is also a really REALLY good track and I think I like it better for the menu on HM2.

>>715656936
Jacket
the dance club in 1
the one that makes thrown objects lethal (is that the frog one?)
impossible to choose. I like Sexualizer from 2 a lot but the more mellow tracks (Around, Untitled, Horse Stepping, etc...) are all great too.