>story doesn't matter

>>715680000 (OP)
Is this why theres been so many 3x3 and 5x5 threads lately? All to data mine for a reddit post?

>>715680000 (OP)
It really doesn't. It's a nice touch, sure, but once immersionfags became a key demographic, and movie games went from cheesy hollywood tie-ins to games thrying to actually be movies, with gameplay as exciting as a second coat of paint, it was the beginning of a major reason for gaming current decline

In most cases, no, it doesn't. Gameplay is what makes video games good, and it's the most important thing in any real game, with everything that directly enhances the gameplay, such as visuals and sound, coming directly after it. The only time story will ever matter in a video game is when understanding the story is directly connected to playing the game itself, in the sense that you can't play the game without understanding the story; e.g. games like Ace Attorney, where story and gameplay are basically one and the same. If a game's story has absolutely nothing to do with the game, in the sense that you can play the game just fine without caring about the story at all, then the story obviously doesn't matter, which is the case for most games.

If a game falls under the second category mentioned, and either the best thing people can say about it is the story, or the game constantly interrupts itself with forced story segments despite the fact that the story doesn't matter, then the game most likely sucks and cannot be considered a real game at all, if you ask me. Ultimately, it doesn't matter anyway, because casuals and normalcattle want video games to be "art" and thus will praise any kind of pretentious "game" that tries incredibly hard to be anything but a game; games like The Last of Us or any other kind of shallow walking sim/RPG being some examples. I find this all incredibly depressing because those stories aren't even good to begin with. The writers are just failed writers who couldn't make it to actual TV shows, movies, or animation. None of those stories have ever had anything truly worthwhile to tell. In my opinion, the best video game stories are the ones that clearly don't pretend to be anything more than an excuse for the game to actually happen, like most arcade or arcade-y games.

I think I can actually sum up everything with that one John Carmack quote (even if he did walk back on it later on), so here it is.

>>715680000 (OP)
checked

>>715680000 (OP)
The old top 100 was better.

>>715681858
>Silent Hill 2
>no other Silent Hill
Instantly discarded.

>>715680470
>>715681658
Story makes a game memorable, gameplay does not. I don't care for movie games, but not all JRPGs are movies games, and you can tell your story without dialogues, like Half Life

Chrono trigger is boring as fuck.
This board felates everything kojimbo releases because its le hekkin based.
Desusex is le ebin reddit culture.
Alttp and oot are both great.
Super metroid and sotn are top 10, if not top 5 minimum and a list is shit if they are not.

>>715682756
>Story makes a game memorable
Minecraft is memorable because you build things. Fortnite is memorable because you shoot and build. FIFA is memorable because you control a team to play football. Age of Empires is also memorable because you start small, build an army, and attack others. Even fucking rogue is memorable despite it doesn't have story lol

>>715680000 (OP)
Dark Souls is right there at the top. Also Tetris still beats all of them regardless.

>>715683387
Minecraft is memorable because it's one of a kind, it's the exception that proves the rule, Fortnite it's just generic battle royale FPS with no soul, FIFA is soulless game every year slop where you drop the old game as soon as the new one’s out as they’ve no identity. Can agree with the others

>>715680000 (OP)
/v/ is retard

>>715682756
>Story makes a game memorable, gameplay does not.
I don't know how you can say that at all. Take Doom, for example. Do you think the story is what makes those games memorable and not the gameplay?

>>715680252
That image was made in 2024.

>>715682756
Pac-Man

>>715680000 (OP)
I think Nintendo 1st/3rd party games need to be off the list entirely.

>>715680470
gameplay is better than ever, quit playing garbage.

>>715680000 (OP)
>2024 /v/eddit has absolutely shit tier taste
as expected

>>715683067
chrono trigger is boring because there's so much superfluous animations and a prolonged battle set up and battle end sequence, on top of the absolutely wafer thin combat system makes for a completely uncompelling game in spite of the strengths of its presentation
it's all style and no substance, easily one of the worst rpgs ever made, only beaten by even worse games like earthbound, super mario rpg, and final fantasy 7

>>715684138
yeah that was too extreme, obviously that doesn’t apply to games like Doom or Mario 64. But in oversaturated genres, i think story is what gives a game the most identity, take Mario for example, yeah, 64 is incredibly memorable, but the games that came after? sure, they have their differences, but in the end they’re just slight tweaks to the same formula

>>715686991
FF7 is anything but all style and no substance.

>>715680000 (OP)
i think its weird that pokemon diamond/pearl is on the list at all. especially when ruby/sapphire isnt even on it. do people really prefer gen 4 over 3?

>>715680000 (OP)
I'm shocked Pokemon Gold and Silver are still up there post 2017. Guess all that Youtuber rhetoric shilling Gen 5/7/8 was all in vein?

Reminder that you can just ignore every top game list without Warcraft 3 in it among the top spots because it reveals the people who put it together or voted on it don't play games

>>715687490
Gen 4 is widely considered the best, hgss being the considered the best pokemon games.
For me, the physical special split was one of the best things they ever did.

>>715680000 (OP)
>no Counter Strike
>no DOTA
>no StarCraft Brood Wars
Look, I'm an old nostalgia guy myself but this list is objectively casual slop and wrong without the top competitive games of all time.

>>715688631
>Dota
>counter strike
Retard

>>715681858
This is a better list but I'm playing Visions of Mana on PS5 right now and it's objectively a superior game to Secret of Mana from the 1990s which I owned in the 90s and played a lot BTW.

>>715680000 (OP)
>dmc4 over dmc3
uhhh

>>715688348
i thought gen 4 was incredibly boring. but it was the first pokemon game that had actual online play

>>715688348
GSC - Emerald - Platinum - HGSS - BW - BW2 were the best games and nothing will change that

>>715681858
giga reddit