Thread 715680564

Nintendo is getting desperate. Palworld might actually win the patent lawsuit.
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/nintendo-is-taking-desperate-measures-in-patent-infringement-case-against-palworld-and-its-looking-a-little-weird

>>715680564 (OP)
that would actually be great in the long run since it would set a precedent against patent trolling

>>715680690
It might also inspire GF to actually start putting in effort again if they have to compe-
Nah, I know better than that.

>>715680564 (OP)
Nintendo literally filed the patents AFTER the game came out, and they also saw it at every major gameshow for 2-3 years or more.
It was extremely popular before launch for being "pokemon with guns and slavery", and it still is.
They had ample chance to tell them to change it or stop outright before it launched, they did nothing.

I know Japanese law is a total joke that just favors a guilty verdict for everyone who ever gets taken to court no matter what but this is extremely brazen to the point that the judges and lawyers must feel especially embarassed to even have to entertain nintendo wasting their time just to stifle competition.

>>715680690
Exactly. If Palworld wins, it sends a message to every big corp who thinks they can just retroactively slap lawsuits onto anything that's vaguely reminiscent of their IP. Nintendo acting like the concept of monster catching is their holy grail is rich, considering how many "Pokemon-likes" have existed for decades. Maybe it'll actually open the door for more innovation in the genre instead of everything living in Pokémon's shadow.

kill yourselves

>>715681480
There it is. Right on schedule.

She's bathing

>>715682072
She needs a bigger bath.

>>715682072
bathing with clothes on?
Is she stupid?

>>715681092
>I know Japanese law is a total joke that just favors a guilty verdict for everyone who ever gets taken to court no matter what
Their patent laws are a bit iffy but the high conviction rate is because prosecutors are reluctant to take cases they aren't confident in to court

>it's okay when Nintendo move the goal posts
I have Nintendo fatigue.

>>715684713
did an AI write this post?

>>715680690
This. I'm a Nintenchad but copyrights, trademarks, and parents are more important to new creative works. Modern games should NOT hold patents for elements that can be programmed by anyone.

>>715684867
No, Updating a patent in the middle of a fucking patent suit is gonna be okay in japan court.

>>715680564 (OP)
Yeah Nintendo very much shot themselves in the foot. They could have easily got them on the obvious model thievery (you can't just use another company's sprites/models as a base for your stuff), but instead decided to not only file patents AFTER the game came out, but also forged evidence mid-trial. If Nintendo just got them on stuff they actually did, they would have won.

Nוֹntoddler is a dead company writhing in its death throes. It offers nothing to the pastime but toxic consumer policies and abject garbage re-hashes of games that haven't been good for a quarter-century. The sooner it sepukkus, the better for the industry.

Why doesn't Nintendo just make a better game instead of being litigious?

>>715685809
Putting more money, time, and effort into the future games? No way. Just try and shut down competition instead.

>>715680564 (OP)
>Nintendo is getting desperate
Delusional
I hope your family died

>>715682072
She cute!

>>715686279
Least fanatical nintenzealot.

>>715684949
It's just not updating the patent, its using vague literature to catch Pocketpair in some kind of gotcha moment, but it only opens themselves up even more to lose on appeal, well in a non Tendie dominated country anyway. In Japan PocketPair are probably cooked even if the patents were predated by Craftopia and the myriad other games that have had those features that Nintendo neglected/refused to litigate against because Nintendo owns the courts there.

>>715681361
Wasn't Pokemon a ripoff of that telefang game or what?

>>715680564 (OP)
>Check the source for the so called patent experts
>Gamesfray:In-depth reporting and analytical commentary on games industry and related regulatory issues. No legal advice.
>NO LEGAL ADVICE
lolmao

>>715685809
nintendo doesnt make pokemon, for starters

oh man if they get that mount one done kiss goodbye to riding pals and i do believe this would end the game in a lot of peoples eyes.

>>715687547
>in a drastic twist of events, it turns out Nintendo doesn't own the patents for Pokemon

>>715687736
get this, sony doesnt make Uncharted games

>>715680564 (OP)
can they bring back the non-pokeball throwing animation if they win?

>>715680564 (OP)
They're going to lose, they've got this upcoming beast to worry about as well.

Basically Nintendo and GameFreak are just going to have to step up their game and make the open world MMO people dreamed for years.

>>715685809
Why don't Pocketpair come up with their own ideas?

>>715687485
you are suppose to be 18 to post here.

>>715687407
Yes

>>715680564 (OP)
I needed a laugh tonight, thanks

>>715681361
Coromon is way more of a direct Pokemon ripoff than Palworld is and Nintendo never touched it so that alone should be good grounds for Nintendo being spitefully litigious.

>>715688568
Which youtuber did you steal this quote from?

the idea that you can patent video game mechanics is retarded. god damn boomer fucks making laws about somehting they dont even understand.. i bet half the boomer fucks who helped write these laws in regards to programming patents needed someone to help them get their email account set up.

>>715680564 (OP)
Surprise in my eyes when retroactively patenting shit and then suing someone over it doesn't work I'm actually surprised given Nintendo owns Japan

>>715688430
They won't, game freak is a two-bit hack
The only solution is for them to sell off Pokemon, close down and for the next pokeyman game to be reallocated to monolithsoft

>>715691591
Reminder Miyamoto wanted to patent Jumping

>>715680564 (OP)
Someone is going to lose his fingers at Nintendo's law department

>>715688965
Why did you crop that image?

>>715683509
True, but it's not just that. Japanese prosecutors also pressure you HARD to just plead guilty for a reduced sentence before you even go to court, especially if you're not a big guy who can throw his weight around.

i genuinely hoped that after the various changes bingtendo would relent and allow palworld on the switch 2, but it looks like japanese boomers are hellbent in their backwards yakuza ways instead of making the more sensible choices

>article is just an editorial
why are palworld articles like this

Palworld gives me what I want so I side with them

>>715692295
They already made a deal with sony. There was no more place for nintendo

>>715691980
i will patent breathing in japan and demand all japs stop doing it or pay me monthly

>>715692385
Palworld was on Xbox first and still made it's way to PlayStation. Your point?

>>715680564 (OP)
>There is also clear evidence of Palworld demonstrating its mount switching mechanic, one of the patents in question, 6 months prior to Nintendo filing for the patent.
>link shows a trailer that doesn't have the switching mechanic in question

>>715681092
>Nintendo literally filed the patents AFTER the game came out
No, in Japan they filed for them in 2021 and in America, 2022.

>>715692353
Chillet is so cute

>>715692295
>i genuinely hoped that after the various changes bingtendo would relent
Why would you think that? They would just change it back the instant Nintendo goes
>yeah okay you're off the hook

>>715694052
no, that was an earlier application that was more generic. they split up that patent and tailored the application's claims specifically to sue palworld with. those new patents are the ones they are referencing in the suit because they know full well they don't really own generic ideas like throwing a ball.

>>715691502
The same comment section you stole yours from. Tell Pocket Pair to be original once you take their dick from your mouth

>>715694443
[citation needed]

>OP samefagging and bumping his ragebait thread from page 10 because the bait is too weak
lol

>>715694443
>that was an earlier application that was more generic.
Everything goes back to the original filing date anon, including revisions which you're referring to. They haven't filed a single patent after the release of Palworld and have only had a few approved in America.
Filing patents has a strict 2 year wait before they're approved and that's true regardless of where you are in the world.
>those new patents are the ones they are referencing in the suit
Yes and they were filed in 2021 before Pocketpair had shown off any of the mechanics in game since just about every trailer until 2023 was prerendered and didn't feature any of the mechanics they're being sued for.

I would suggest toning down your corporate love anon, it's clearly blinding you.

>>715680564 (OP)
>Still using the Palworld trailer from before Nintendo's patent that didn't show any contested mechanics as a gotcha
Westerners really shouldn't touch Japanese court cases as they have no idea what's happening
>>715681361
>retroactively
The patents in question were filled before Palworld was released.
It's funny how Pocketpair lied about the dates by only mentioning renewal dates and you gobbled it up and rushed to form defence force.

>>715694835
>the FUCKING irony

>>715684868
They CAN be programmed by anyone. That's the issue.
Why didn't then Pocketpair program it themselves and instead copied Nintendo's patent?

>>715695143
No anon, there's no irony in that.
Just because the facts favor Nintendo doesn't mean i particularly like them. It just means the facts favor them.

But thank you for my point on your blind corporate love

>>715685143
Unless the exact same models are just copied from one game to another wholesale it all comes down to judge's subjective opinion.
>file patents AFTER the game came out,
That didn't happen. The patents were filled before Palworld released.
>forged evidence mid-trial
Also didn't happen. If they made any changes to the patents they are visible to anyone involved in the case. Do you know what "forging evidence" even means?

That's why journos (especially western journos when it concerns japanese law) shouldn't spread their misinformation before the trail is concluded. Otherwise we get retarded takes like these.

>>715695345
>the FUCKING irony

Palworld won

Anti-Nintendism is gay. Fuck off.

>>715696436
This is what I don't understand. I'm not a nitendshitter, I'm not their potential customer, I never owned a ninten console, I don't even want to play their exclusive games, and I love Palworld. It has literally no effect on their sales/playerbase.

>>715680564 (OP)
>Palworld might actually win the patent lawsuit.
Nah, they have absolutely zero counter arguments which is why they're resorting to FUD online. But the problem is that it won't help them at all especially given it's only a small group of Americans specifically falling for it.

>>715696602
Severe tendie cope

>>715681092
They even tried to patent jumping. Fucking mafia

The makers of red faction should patent their destructible terrain and sue Nintendo for infringement.

>>715680564 (OP)
HOL UP
AM I GONNA BE ABLE TO THROW MY NIGGAS OUT THE BALL AGAIN!?

>>715696436
Fuck your cult full of pedos and troons

>>715696436
Shitendo deserves all the roasting they get for their shitty practices

>all these years of /v/ spending every single day to shit on open world crafting asset flip games
>now they have to backpedal and defend it just for the sake of being against nintendo/pokemon

>>715696879
I don't find crap like Palworld good. It is just offensive that a company should be able to have an exclusive right to the likeness of a bearded plumber for forever.

>>715696879
>defends the most incompetent devs for the sake of it being pokemon
pick your poison cause honestly i want devs that aren't rushing their games 24/7

>>715696879
>Tendie saying this when it used to shit on open world and crafting till Nintendo did it

>>715696879
Despite some of the reused environment assets Palworld has soul and good mechanics

>>715696593
>It has literally no effect on their sales/playerbase
Because it was never about that. Pocketpair is a company most developers dislike because of their tendency to copy from others so this is basically just putting them in their place.

>>715697073
Are you implying that this is good looking in any shape or form?

>>715696760
Not until pocketpair makes their own version of the mechanic.

>>715697116
>Pocketpair is a company most developers dislike
Citation needed

>>715697073
>>defends the most incompetent devs for the sake of it being pokemon
Who's defending them exactly? You know pointing out pocketpair's faults doesn't mean you like Pokemon, right.

>>715697116
Only you nintentrannies are triggered by it

gooks do not deserve any rights

pretending to like survival crafting slop to own le tendies

Using the term slop as an "argument" is an easy way to get your opinion ignored

>>715697116
Name they're other cases.

>>715697429
>if you hate one thing you must like other thing
Get a new script jeet.

>>715697073
Craftopia being forever early access is not a correct application of
>devs that aren't rushing their games

>>715697116
Seems like it's a tendie only thing

>>715697498
You mean instances of copying or actual court cases? Because the latter hasn't happened since this is the first time they've copied a patented mechanic.
Anyway, Nevergrave is literally just hollow knight

>>715680564 (OP)
hey you palsnoy dalit, you lost and gets gangrapes okay?

>>715697164
Behold!

Instead of throwing the sphere, you throw the sphere into the ground, it creates a portal and summons the Pal.

I just like the game

>>715680564 (OP)
Good, you shouldn't be able to he granted exclusive rights to concepts like
>throw trap at a monster
>defeated enemies hate you and come back for revenge
Whoever retarded is granting those parents on game mechanics should have his fingers cut off.

>>715680564 (OP)
You know Nintendo is winning when journos have to resort to unprofessionalism in the TITLE.

>>715697643
>Nevergrave is literally just hollow knight
>got his news from twitter
yeah, i can tell you don't do your research before saying shit

>>715688568
this is their original idea though
there isn't a single pokeshit game that uses the pokemon in the same way pals are used in palworld
you're just mad that people find the gameplay in palworld more fun than pokeslop
you would have an actual argument if you were talking about the monster designs, but that isn't what this lawsuit is about

>>715697073
I kinda remember this from the tera the top 2 are PC optimized.

>>715697756
>you shouldn't be able to he granted exclusive rights to concepts
Patents don't give you exclusive rights to a concept, just your specific method.

>>715680860
Why would GF be in competition with an ARK clone?

>>715681361
>vaguely reminiscent of their IP
show me one single review/article about palworld that doesn't mention pokemon.

Just one.

>>715697857
Which is bullshit of the highest order

>>715697116
your angry cult of tendiejeets isn't the entire game industry

>>715697429
is that why palworld still has people playing it while jeetendo doesn't even release their active player counts?

>>715697901
It's not. You can just make another method which is incredibly easy to do.

>>715697554
>Craftopia being forever early access is not a correct application of
so is releasing a non-polished game unoptimized at full price because its pokemon

>>715697774
What does twitter have to do with anything?

>>715697857
Except the "specific" method is written as vague as possible and the litigious shits will sue everyone out of existence so de facto you are not allowed to make anything similar.
The only people it benefits is patent lawyers, it should be abolished.

>>715697898
lmfao palfags BTFO

>>715697643
>one game
>that is a similar to a game that is a copycat of old games that were around for 40 years
Amazing.

>>715697963
No, it's bullshit
Patenting characters is one thing
Patenting ideas and game mechanics is vile

>>715698148
>Except the "specific" method is written as vague as possible
It isn't, it goes into the absolute minute details. That's how patents work outside of the US which is why patent trolling isn't much of a thing outside of it.

>>715697898
they can't. pretending palworld isn't a massive rippoff has been the most ridiculous psyop this board has done. Everyone KNOWS it's a pokemon ripoff, that's the whole reason it was so successful

>>715697898
>>715698169
>Samefagging
Cringe

why did pokejeets and pokespics chimp out at CHADworld so badly? i thought scarlet/violet were one of the best selling pokemon games of all time, so this obsession to some literal who game by literal who indie developers seems a bit weird to me

>>715698202
>Patenting characters is one thing
>Patenting ideas and game mechanics is vile
You're confusing patents and copyright.
Also you have a very Jewish ideology of "if I can't create no one should be able to"

>>715698003
cause most of the shit about nevergrave being a hollowknight only persist of it being that image despite the game being more of roguelike like dead cells and doesn't really play like it the only thing it feels like for hollowknight is its atmosphere which could be considered as inspiration

So what you can't make a normal Palworld thread without Nintendo somehow being mentioned or something?

>>715698289
So where's the base building and killing enemies with guns in pokeman?

>>715698308
>why did pokejeets and pokespics chimp out at CHADworld so badly
Because they needed an enemy, so they picked pokemon and made a ton of comics and infographics while pokemon fans didn't care enough to defend themselves because who cares that much about companies.

>>715697898
>it's not a ripoff at all!
it's all so tiresome

>>715698342
it might be too difficult for you to comprehend with your cowdung enriched brown jeet brain, but it's nintendo going after palworld with a silly little lawsuit over patents

>>715698342
they do but there are people constantly trying to falseflag in those threads to try and turn into a shitflinging thread against pokemon and nintendo

>>715698327
>despite the game being more of roguelike like dead cells
There's a demo anon. Play it instead of reading YouTube comments on the trailer

>>715698342
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/715104885
What's the point in lying when you're easily disproven?

>>715698415
>Doom is just Diablo with guns
>Believe me, I'm a game journalist.

>>715698292
kys rajesh

>>715680564 (OP)
>Nintendo is getting desperate
We have yet to see that
Even the fucking Wii U failure didn't do shit

>>715698516
>google diablo with guns
>nothing specific comes up, no doom at all
lmao you're such a dumfuck faggot

>>715698480
Nigger i did it literally is nothing like hollow knight you would have more a chance convincing haiku the robot was more of a hollow knight clone

>>715698415
>be videogame developer
>you create a monster tamer but with guns
>every single brown shitskin streetshitter pajeet pokepedo starts calling it a "pokemon ripoff with guns"
>jeet AI bot starts parroting the same crap
>mfw

>>715698596
>acting retarded to defend tendie
Ok.

>>715698342
You've never been able to.
From day one the only thing driving palworld threads is the hatred towards Nintendo and Pokemon. If someone tries to actually talk about the game it just results in an incredibly slow thread that takes a few days to hit the bump limit if it does at all as this anon has shown >>715698503 with a thread that died off two days later and that's even with a Palworldfag trying to deflect to Nintendo four posts in.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/715104885/#q715107019

>>715697898
PALS OUR RESPONSE??

>>715698618
Sure, if you ignore the aesthetics and general mechanics.

>>715698148
it has to be very specific.
To the point, back in Nintendo vs Colpl, to make the patent stick better, Nintendo asked for a correction trial:
1. Reduction of the scope of the patent claim
2 Correction of typographical or translation errors
3. Explanation of unclear descriptions
4 Making a claim that cites the description of another claim not citing the description of the other claim.

so no it can't be vague

>>715698450
Shut the fuck up and just make a normal thead faggot, everyone knows about the patent at this point.

>>715692353
This
I just wanted more interections with pokemons
Palworld delivered on a lot of what Gamefreak denied us and already promised us more

>>715698635
>everyone in the world saw the obvious ripoff but they're wrong!! Don't believe your own eyes!!
absolutely fucking delusional

>>715680564 (OP)
Even if they lose can''t they just file an appeal and drag out the process?

>>715698503
But someone mentions Nintendo in that thread anyway almost instantly, all you did was prove me right.

>>715698659
>post dumbass strawman
>get absolutely destroyed
>cope and seethe
thanks for playing faggot

>>715698806
I suppose yeah.

>>715698308
Pokemon fans have a severe case of sunk costs with all they've invested into a shambling corpse of an IP so of course they're going to lash out at a superior monster catching game like Palworld.

>>715680860
lmao it's funny when palfags unintentionally admit how much the game is a rippoff. why did you even mention gamefreak anon? xD

>>715698848
Copeseethe.

>>715698898
Well, then where are they?
I see you lashing out at pokemon but never the other way around.

>>715698669
>>715698835
>All pokefags can do is move goalposts
Kek how utterly pathetic

>>715698721
general mechanics like what cause none of them look like they are stolen because most of them are fucking basic and i just said aesthetics hence the atmosphere part i said retard

>>715699053
They clearly aren't basic if they were only in one other game, Hollow Knight.

>>715698898
TRVKE

>>715687794
who is suing palworld again?

>>715697198
When you get ZUN dislike to the point don't want to be in the same category (when they claim to be indie dev), you know something is really wrong.

>>715699085
Then list them anon you're not listing the mechanics your speaking of

>>715699013
Who's moving the goalposts?
The original anon asked why you can't have a Palworld thread without someone mentioning Nintendo or pokemon.
You posted a thread claiming he was wrong despite there being an instance of a Palworld fan mentioning them four posts in.

>>715692475
If you don't understand the difference that's on you.

>>715699175
Thats pretty much an admission of not playing the game.

>>715699258
how your literally goal posting also it's a free fucking demo how is that an admission

>>715699209
The original post was about creating a Palworld thread without mentioning Nintendo which was easily proven. Sorry that your reading comprehension is non existent.

>>715699345
That's not what moving the goalpost means, you clearly haven't played it otherwise you wouldn't even have to ask that question.

>>715681361
Being real about it, every other monster catcher lives in Pokemon’s shadow because only Pokemon has Pokemon monster designs and the others don’t compete at nearly the same level in that. Nintendo/Game Freak going after competitors with patent trolling lawsuits is just adding insult to injury.

>>715680564 (OP)
With a move like this it will be bad news for everyone if Nintendo still manages to win. It just serves as a sign for other big corpos that they can do whatever the fuck they want with competition. On the other hand I want to see a Dadaist world where corpos have slapped patents on so many basic game concepts that indies have to go for some absurd game mechanics to show something simple like recovering your always diminishing-health by expressive dance masturbation and reloading by writing haikus with your touchpad.

>>715680564 (OP)
convinced this lawsuit is the only thing keeping palworld from being completely forgotten

>>715696879
are you implying BotW is bad, pedosnoytard?

>>715699383
>Sorry that your reading comprehension is non existent.
Ironic considering you interpreted it as Nintendo and Pokemon being in the OP and not the thread in general, which is what he actually said.
>So what you can't make a normal Palworld thread without Nintendo somehow being mentioned or something?
You then proved him right by posting a thread where Nintendo and Pokemon were mentioned multiple times with at least one instance being to bump the thread during a dead period where it was most likely going to drop off.

>>715699475
If Nintendo wins absolutely nothing changes. This isn't the first patent case in gaming nor will it be the last.
Also you don't seem to understand how patents works.

>>715699449
Because you're not telling me the mechanics that nevergrave copied from hollowknight i can't read your fucking mind through the screen anon so i don't know what you mean by general mechanics because general literally means basic you faggot are you talking about how you slash at enemies, or the saw blade jump parts

>>715699570
I accept your concession, illiterate. It's pretty embarrassing that you're doubling down on your idiocy btw.

>>715699628
I sure hope so anon, but in the current vidya landscape I have absolutely no hope left that the big names will make any moves that reflect positively on anyone except their shareholders.

>>715680564 (OP)
Reminder that Nintendo is #1 opposition to Save games initiative.
You will own nothing and you will get sued into oblivion.

>>715685809
>Why doesn't Nintendo just make a better game
Well, you see, Nintendo doesnt make Pokemon games. GameFreak does. Gamefreak is completely incompetent. Nintendo makes good games all the time. GameFreak?? Well, it has been a while since they made a good game.

The threads will be legendary once that happens.
I can't wait to see what an absolute train wreck the catalog will be here.

>>715680690
Japanese judicial system does not operate on precedents.
It's a literal feudal system where the rich win and poor have to grovel and admit their "crimes".

>>715692385
>made a deal with sony
Sony Music specifically l.
Only for merchandising.

>>715685809
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>715699661
Maybe you should have played the game so you know what you're talking about.
Also it would help if you knew the difference between mechanics and concepts.

Revenge status?

>>715699852
And Sony is also losing money on it.

>>715699730
I'm not interested in nintendie games or consoles so no, it doesn't affect me.

>>715699730
>Reminder that Nintendo is #1 opposition to Save games initiative
Okay, what are they doing?

>>715697898
How is the developer responsible for third party reviews?
Are you well? Are you having some kind of cognitive difficulty?

>>715699890
Oh no no no

>>715699678
Once you learn how these things work you'll see that there's nothung to worry about when it comes to patents and the like. People without a creative bone in their body tend to make problems where there are none.

>>715700118
That's the cope of someone afraid they use their ideas better

>>715699732
I mean, their new game for other consoles looks quite stellar graphically
Something about developing for Nintendo consoles must be frustratingly hard

>>715700057
Paying a lobying group in Europe to stop the skg initiative which isn't strange seeing how their business model is to shut down rom sites, sell you super mario bros on a virtual console and then remove said virtual console once their new console comes out.

>>715699474
Palworld has better pokemon than the best of the last 5 generations combined

>>715700118
This post reeks of corporate bootlicker

>>715700163
Problem is that if they could they wouldn't be affected by patents and copyright.

>>715700118
True enough, probably not the best move to start reading up on specifics of law right after waking up, especially when Nintendo then makes a pro gamer move and does something unexpected in the eyes of law. Thanks, Nintendo-shill. I'll go grab some coffee now.

>>715700172
The last two generations of ninten consoles were shitty tablets, what do you think?

>>715700206
>Paying a lobying group in Europe
Video games Europe isn't affiliated with Nintendo or most of the companies on their page. They've only had minor assistance publishing games in Europe. Also looking at the BeamNG devs who also show up on their page VGE haven't actually contacted anyone prior to making their statement.
Very easy argument to dismantle, try harder.

>>715696879
The fact that you seem unable to grasp that you can actually think something is shit and at the same time still think people should be able to do it if they want to says a lot of what kind of retard you are.

>>715700172
>I mean, their new game for other consoles looks quite stellar graphically
I mean, sure if you think auto pathing, jaggies and constant framedrops is "stellar".
>Something about developing for Nintendo consoles must be frustratingly hard
Consider the fact that just about every developer has praised it's ease in an interview.

>>715699938
nigger you won't even tell me the basic mechanics your fucking talking about keep goal posting though also what fucking mechanics or concepts you literally just said general mechanics not concepts you fucking idiot make up your mind and you won't even answer my questions because you didn't actually find things they stole that were solely unique to hollowknight besides the aesthetic but go off and think your won when you can't even do one simple thing and since the demo is not live anymore i dont know what to tell you

>>715680564 (OP)
Microsoft has the next billion dollar IP on their hands. Xbox would print gorillions with palworld and jeetsoft money.
They need to help pocketpair and establish an IP deal. Instead they are blowing their money on saarfield

>>715700360
You forgot to mention that Nintendo is one of the few developers who doesn't have DRM in their games.

>>715685809
Curse of bureaucracy

>>715700472
Would you try talking to someone who refused to touch the subject matter out of fear of being wrong?
No, no you wouldn't. So why do you expect me to take you seriously if you haven't played it?

>>715700208
True

>>715696593
>It has literally no effect on their sales/playerbase.
Wrong. Palworld IP has potential to take over pokemon with enough time and money. Other game companies would salivate at the chance to get in on pokemon at ground floor. Which is exactly why nintendo is in panick mode over it. They recognize the threat that palword possesses

>>715700485
trvth nvke

>>715700605
Not my problem.

>>715700605
>Palworld IP has potential to take over pokemon with enough time and money
No, not really. Unfortunately it's unlikely that anything will take over pokemon, it just released at the perfect time to cement itself as a cultural staple.
Palworld on the other hand hasn't pierced that barrier, not to mention it's popularity is attached to pokemon anyway.

>>715700605
Not to mention the actual Chinese knockoff version is right around the corner for release too with big Mihoyo bucks as well. Besides that Aniimo or whatever the fuck that game was called again coming out soon too.

>>715700208
Indeed

>>715700605
As good as Palworld is I don't think Pokemon will ever go under unless they stopped releasing new content all together. Pokemon fans are simply that eager to lap up whatever slop Gamefreak puts out.

>>715700208
100% truth

>>715700565
you keep saying "didn't even play" while trying to avoid my question about what you mean by general mechanics because all there is to do is in the demo is build a little town with some locked stuff while in the tutorial of the game it shows you around a like buff tomes and its main gimmick the possessions and then lets you play for you own and after clears 3 dungeons you beat the rock boss monster then the demo ends but no you can't even answer one simple question about how did they copy hollowknight general mechanic if general just means basic which is very vague in sense cause the only things that was similar was the aesthetic and some inspired enemies

>>715700605
Impossible with a courteous nigh
The only reason tendo seethes so much about pal world is because it gives fans what they want years after denying fan such 'cause they don't know any better'
It's about hurt pride, it threatens no one
It's s Japanese thing to always defer to elders and if you prove those serious wrong YOU are the problem cause you made them look bad
It's how companies like square Enix are getting run into the ground, boomers don't adapt for shit

>>715681361
>considering how many "Pokemon-likes" have existed for decades
Palworlds one crime was that it was successful.

>>715700490
The console is the drm.

>>715700605
Palworlds multimedia attempt lost money. It has no potential

>>715700852
>She even fans herself due to the melting risk
What a nice attention to detail

>>715701008
And here I thought it was the developer stealing ideas like they did with every other game they've made.

>>715680564 (OP)
and your mom may have a looser cunt than expected, according to experts

>>715685809
Why should they?
This rancid piece of dogshit is the best selling pokemon game with almost 30 million units sold.

>>715700971
Who would Fufu's favorite Pal be?

>>715701096
what idea came from pokemon allowing you to fight alongside your creatures

>>715701096
Pokemon gameplay is a rip off of Ultraman :)

>>715701096
You won't have to dig far to find other games that do the same

>>715681361
>considering how many "Pokemon-likes" have existed for decades.

yeah, and I wonder why this one got sued
hmmm...

>>715701209
DELETE THIS

>>715700971
>The only reason tendo seethes
I'm going to stop you there, if they were actually angry about this they would have sued them for millions and tanked the studio.
Instead they're just asking for about, what, 70k? They'll probably spend more in legal fees.
This is just Nintendo trying to tell them to actually create.

Too bad Pocketpair has that nip pride you're talking about and has done everything in their power to convince others that they're in the right pulling out of their ass like the "small indie dev" card after they took two deals from some of the biggest companies in gaming.

>>715701242
because none of them reached relevancy to ever get in their radar

>>715701305
Yep this

>>715701305
Many of them are on the eshop

>>715701390
what does that have to do with relevancy or pokemon caring about them any game can get on the eshop back then

>>715701305
Yep, the only one that didn't pierce the multimedia barrier in some way is definitely relevant.
It's not that pocketpair is creatively bankrupt or anything.

>>715701305
yeppers, yokai watch and digimon?
total farts in the wind

now palworld, the game no one's talking about 2 years later except for this lawsuit nonsense?
that's a cultural phenomenon right there!

>>715701275
Oh they are definitely mad, else they would not make this public, that fact you tendies literally shidded a cried to Nintendo to SUE SUE SUE probably didn't help
Also, stop slurping in such a disgraceful way, I've seen actual boot lickers with less dick in their mouth
Nintendo ain't "telling them to create" shit

>>715685809
But anon, that might cut into a fraction of their profits!

If Pocketpair was innocent they wouldn't have had to change anything or pay anything.
Something was clearly broken that we are not privy to.
And it's not like Nintendo regularly uses their patents to sue either.

>>715701481
palworld literally did that tho when has cassette beats or coromon or hell even temtem ever did that they have a consistent 70k players a month

>>715701305
Fucking Digimon was more relevent at one point and didn't get touched

>>715701275
The point is to get an injuction and ban the game from ever being sold again.
Welcome to the adult world, kiddo.

>>715701609
Of patents created after the game made it big, right

>>715701576
>else they would not make this public
It... Was always going to be public. Do you not know what a lawsuit is?
>that fact you tendies literally shidded a cried to Nintendo to SUE SUE SUE probably didn't help
True. Every day it was nothing but
>HAHAHA NINTENDO SUCKS THAT'S WHY THEY AREN'T SUING
every single day

>>715701275
It's probably a low number because they don't want to push their luck. If it goes through you can bet they WILL go after more games for bigger numbers.

>>715701693
You mean the patents that were done in 2021 before palworld was finished? Fuck off with that copy pasted bullshit.

>>715701490
>the game no one's talking about 2 years later except for this lawsuit nonsense
Holy fucking cope lmao

>>715701673
>palworld literally did that
Okay so where are the products beyond the game?
Anime? Movies? Official merch? Anything?

>>715701706
I think it was the other way around
I distinctly remember tending absolutely fuming and emailing tendo to sue the bad guys™ for stealing their ideas™
It's one of the events that painted tendies as crybabies in the internet

>>715701684
Actually that was never a part of it. You can't really do that with a case like this anyway.
You can read all of this online.

XD

>>715701490
why tf are you bringing up yokai watch or digimon they are results of endless marketing during an of era marketing palworld isn't in that era and yokai watch died off so hard after it stop advertising or showing its shows, it became unknown besides for nostalgia same could be said about digimon the only people playing that are the fans or the ones coming from the recent new games which still won't bring it back to relevancy im talking about modern relevancy

>>715701797
I remember all those early twitter posts about 'clearly stolen assets' and literal fabricated evidence.

>>715701797
>I think it was the other way around
Yeah because it was the pokemon fans going on Nintendo's page complaining about Nintendo uncles and using the dindu excuse.

>>715701857
Do you remember the threads here?

>>715701878
Remember when they complained so much that Nintendo had to put out a post "We are monitoring the situation please chill the fuck out and stop contacting us about it"

>>715701706
Every day it was they can't sue because they have no grounds to sue.
Same shit they were also saying about Yuzu.
Then they get sued and it's Nintendo will lose because they have no real excuse to use.
At this point I just don't care anymore, just let them cope.

>>715700069
How the fuck are you this stupid? Honest question.

The point being made is that fucking EVERYONE can see it's a blatant ripoff. You mongoloid faggots denying reality that anyone can see with their own eyes doesn't change that very basic fact.

>>715701960
The point is, NO ONE cares besides you guys

>>715697898
>not one single link posted
I accept your concession, see you fags next thread ;)

>>715701684
I junctions don't prevent a game from ever being sold again you fucking idiot. It prevents them from doing the specific thing they're being sued for again and they aren't being sued for selling.

>>715701996
Everyone cares dumbfuck, it's the whole the game was popular. Remove the blatant rippoff and it's just another generic crafting survival garbage game. It was literally described as "pokemon with guns" everywhere

>>715701960
And Pokemon is a blatant ripoff of SMT, your point? Everyone takes ideas from each other.

>>715701960
Feel free to show us an official pocket pair made ad or social media post where they advertise Palworld as pokemon with guns.
Go on, make us laugh.

>>715685809
Because Gamefreak is the company making the mainline games. That's why the best Pokemon games have always been spin-off titles not made by Gamefreak.

>>715701960
Each Pal is unique and legally distinct so I hope Palworld wins. Also, you can fuck the Pal's with all the dirty lewd mods out there so its like 20 million times better than pokemong.

>>715702078
So, pokemon is set in a post apocalyptic Tokyo where angels and demons war over humanity and you obtain pokemon by talking to them and bribing them?
Okay.

>>715680564 (OP)
> Team of jeets and changs who have literally admitted their design philosophy is rip off everything we like about X game and then design around it with Y programming and features.
Nothing Palworld ever did was original, unique or defendable by copyright or as transformative art by their own admission.

>>715702078
really? Show me some proof that everyone saw the pokemon games as a smt rippoff. You can even do the exact opposite exercise, where instead of finding articles/reviews about palrworld that don't mention pokemon, you have to find articles/reviews about pokemon that compare it to smt

No? Didn't think so dumbass

>>715682072
Grillet...

>>715702075
I was told the other day that no-one called it that and I simply looked on youtube and everyone was calling it pokemon with guns from day 1 when the trailer was first shown.
Granted this changed when the game came out to be more 'pokemon crossed with ark' but to say it was never called that is humerous.

>>715702078
Pokemon doesn't look like SMT, which is what matters for these people. Palworld looks like a Pokemon game on the surface.

>>715702094
>hurr durr show us an official admission the game is a rippoff
lmao are you retarded? you don't have to answer

>>715702169
and pokemon is set on an island where you beat up creatures with weapons and capture them this can literally go both ways

>>715702216
>Pokemon doesn't look like SMT, which is what matters for these people
It doesn't play like SMT either.

>>715702154
>palworld fan
>degenerate retard
checks out, honestly

>>715702214
palfags don't live in reality and refusing the obvious truth everyone can see is their only (shitty) argument

>>715702154
>palworld fan
>based chad
checks out, honestly

>>715702216
Pals looking like pokemon was the only reason it went viral. Literally everyone made the connection instantly. Denying this is just pure retarded delusion

Why doesn't Pocket Pair just move to America? They can shove a big fat fuck you to Nintendo by re-adding their patented mechanics and all tendies can do is cope and seethe because they have no power outside of Japan.

>>715702305
A pokemon fan has no room to say that

>Palworld introduced a trust mechanic that provides more substantial buffs to baseline weaker Pals compared to stronger ones
Pokemon could never

>>715697706
Now just make the sphere into an octahedron and you're set

>>715702276
Several pokemon games are set on an island
The gen 3, 7 and 8 games if I remember right, all before Palworld.
Weapons do exist in pokemon, could even toss rocks in the safari zone.
And both games use a ball that runs on rng to capture monsters.

>this can literally go both ways
Yeah, if you've never actually played a pokemon or SMT game.

>>715702285
Not exactly, but it plays more like SMT than it does Palworld.

>>715702276
>and pokemon is set on an island where you beat up creatures and capture them this can literally go both ways
yes? lmao

>>715702248
I accept your defeat.
I have literally mind raped you so hard you reverted to posting 4chan memes circa 2007. I feel so good today.

>>715697164
uuuuuh, can't someone else make it first so we can copy it?

>>715702078
You have never played an SMT game in your life and this shit is why you will always be a laughing stock.
They don't look like each other, they don't play like each other and are significantly diferent enough that only a retard like yourself would ever think they are the same.
Even when you fags was comparing dragon quest the actual fans of that laughed at you becauae it was fucking stupid.

>>715702573
BASED

>>715702451
>Why doesn't Pocket Pair just move to America?
If they pulled their copying shit in America they would be sued into oblivion several times over. It's being in Japan that's saved them so far because their legal system is way more strict.

>>715702551
I love how you accidentally deleted the "with weapons" part from the post you are quoting. lmao

>>715702573
>palfag is delusional
checks out

>>715702504
More like pal thrust mechanic

>>715702451
Celesdir my beloved

>>715702646
The fact you accept the state SV was released in shows you are beyond help

>>715702640
you're so close to getting it but alas, since you're a palfag it's guaranteed you're a brown with no education so i don't have high hopes

>>715702702
the fact that you need to make up arguments I never said shows you are truly delusional. have your schizophrenic arguments with yourself in the shower, palfag

>>715702545
not where you wake up on one and rocks where merely for distraction u tard they had no part in harming the pokemon so no

>>715702546
About that, there are more mechanics shared between palworld and Pokemon.
Hell they introduced trust not too long ago and that mechanic is kind of similar to pokemon's affection mechanic in how it functions. Although I would say the end result is more like cyber sleuth's ability stat but I digress.

>>715702692
Eeeyo!

>>715702712
Ah, appeal to race
You're indian aren't you?
You caste obsessed Jeets make everything about that

Nintendo has changed. There used to plenty kinda similar IPs that were aping pokemon, like digimon or monster rancher, but they didn't sue them because they were confident they could outcompete them 20 years ago. Palworld has them scared shitless because they couldn't do what Palworld did even if they wanted to.

>>715688430
I really don't know why they haven't transitioned to a Pokemon MMO in all honesty. It feels like they want to but I assume it would be harder to sell two copies to retards.

>>715702625
I'm pretty sure the US court threw out many cases of bullshit patents of universal things before. Patenting flying mounts and gliders is ridiculous and would fall apart at the smallest level of scrutiny. Palworld is closer to Ark Survival Evolved and Rust than it is to slopmon.

Give me a good reason not to enjoy two cakes

>>715702712
I accept your defeat as well.
I am actually filled with sexual energy now after owning these fucking nintendo cultist nerds online.

>>715702797
>not where you wake up on one
Pretty much every game starts with you waking up but that does eliminate gen 3 since you're in the back of a moving truck.
>and rocks where merely for distraction u tard they had no part in harming the pokemon so no
Are you really trying to say that beaning a creature with a rock isn't harming it

>>715702907
You can't have cake in this economy, oat cookies are good enough!

>>715702907
Understandable if you enjoy Palworld and older Pokemon games or roms, those are good.

>>715702826
You mean make an open world game that is a hodgepodge of shit they have already done, which would have made the main critism be 'Pokemon is running out of ideas'?

>>715702818
>projection
step in front of a train rajesh, I definitely would if I were you

>>715702432
It's not ONLY that, though. It's because it looked like a high quality game. Which it is. There's a reason why people were pointing to Palworld as proof of how lazy Game Freak is as a company.

It did more than enough to have its own individual artistic merit. Furthermore, nobody actually believed it was an official Pokemon title, and it never tried to convince you that it was. Should the creators of every parody or derivative work be sued out of existence? And if so, where does that slippery slope end? Maybe Nintendo should be sued out of existence for >>715688965. But we all know that how this standard would play out in reality is that your outcomes in court would depend entirely on the company's connections to the government and the judge's perception (not always the most informed or fair) of their reputation. These kinds of ultra-subjective judgements are no basis for a legal system.

Nintendo should have zero case whatsoever.

>>715702826
It's almost as if Digimon, monster rancher, SMT, DQM etc were all competing and being original and Nintendo welcomed it.

>>715702909
I'm undefeated
>>715697898
cope and seethe

>>715702984
They have never made anything even remotely close to palword, and they couldn't even if they tried.

>>715680564 (OP)
>windowscentral
Bruh...

>>715703010
Nintenbro should have lost the DK case. It would be a better world.

>>715703065
There was the legends game wasn't there?

>>715703010
>But we all know that how this standard would play out in reality is that your outcomes in court would depend entirely on the company's connections to the government and the judge's perception (not always the most informed or fair) of their reputation
It's sad just how true this is

>>715703095
Not even close

>>715703010
Oh I don't think Nintendo should win this case. I just think (read: know) Palworld is a blatant rippoff in a way that can't, or shouldn't, be legally prosecuted.

It's what separates me from you faggots. I can simultaneously be against Nintendo for this nonsense lawsuit while also admitting its a blatant rippoff.

>>715697865
I dont know? Ask Nintendo, the company who is suing them for that?

what would be an acceptable punishment for someone daring to use nintendo merch or products in public at this point?

cut off their nose?

>>715702863
>I'm pretty sure the US court threw out many cases of bullshit patents of universal things before.
No, they never do. It always goes to court which is why patent trolling is such an issue in America.
Hell, Nintendo themselves were sued several times by people with patents that were actually generic and didn't have realised products. Many required appealing to a higher court to overturn something pocketpair couldn't afford to do.
>Patenting flying mounts and gliders is ridiculous and would fall apart at the smallest level of scrutiny.
Not in America it wouldn't.

>>715703010
it is 100% only that. there are a million of those generic crafting survival games but just palworld with "totally not pokemon"

Nintendo own a lot of politicians and judges in Japan so they’ll probably win, no one wants to offend the “golden boy”. Same deal why Samsung is basically untouchable in Korea.

>>715703131
All it's really missing besides good performance is base building and the ability to attack Pokemon with your character. Legends even has dodge roll bosses just like Palworld does.

>>715703010
>It's because it looked like a high quality game. Which it is
It's funny that you believe this.

>>715703184
What's also sad is that if Palworld had put in just a LITTLE BIT more effort to the creature designs it would be a lot more distinct from Pokemon and a lot of the hubbub would have never happened. Well Nintendo would have still sued them but people would not have the design-crutch to lean on as hard as they do unlike Nintendo who did not go for that route at all with their lawsuit.

>>715703276
>All it's missing is the entire rest of the owl
yes, that is correct

>>715703246
Is being seen as a manchild not punishment enough
It's one thing to have and hobby at home another to be cringe in public

There are two reasons why I need to see Pocket Pair win.
>1. if Nintendo win then the door is completely open for litigious stifling of competition, more than it already is anyway. The industry will become even more narrow minded and tribal than it already is, and we'll never really know about it because it'll be a cultural change and things that might have existed just won't.
>2. the seething from Pokemon cultists will be exceptional. Transcendental. Immaculate. I want to see them melt down and cry and suffer and have absolutely no recourse. It would be incredible.
It seems like PP have a good chance of winning this thing, and the will to do so, so I'm hopeful.

>>715680564 (OP)
I thought they changed the ball capture thing anyway

>>715703313
Newer pals have been like that tho
They tend to lean into furry bait albeit

Wow a Palworld thread that's getting more than 10 posts an hour and doesn't need the OP bumping it off page 10 to save it from archiving, I wonder what they're talking about in this thread, did a new update come out?

>>715695124
>corporate love
>defends nintendo
>b-but le facts!
Fuck off tendie

>>715702952
why is /v/ this mentally challenged you literally wake up in an abandoned island with only some raid bases so no and no the rock isn't harming things since it would require it to be knocked out OR hurt (also i never played through 4 or 5 so idk about them)

>>715703327
what if its a preteen girl

>>715703310
> High quality game.
> Unreal Engine Assets.
> Assets-Swap from their own previous survival-craft slop.
lol. If that's quality product to you then volkswagen is a super car company.

>>715703378
So basically you want them to win... To make gaming worse and get the attention of people who don't care?

>>715703431
Children can be cringe, it's their right to be

>>715703246
Just break it.

>>715697898
>>715698415
>>715698289
After playing Palworld, it’s clear that it shares nothing meaningful with Pokémon beyond having creature collection the gameplay, tone, and mechanics are completely different. Palworld focuses on survival, crafting, base-building, and even firearm combat, which are totally absent in Pokémon. The themes are darker and more mature, making the overall experience feel more like Ark or Rust than anything from the Pokémon universe.

Pretending it's a Pokemon ripoff is fucking disingenuous.

>>715703394
Oh yes the new Pals are not as Pokemon-lookalike like what the game launched with. Unfortunate regardless, the game obviously had merits of its own but I guess the devs just did not expect it to be as well-received as it was with launch so they just went with some rather blatant copied designs at times instead of working on more unique ones to start the game with.

>>715703441
I think you meant to reply to the other guy.

>>715696436
I literally own hundreds of switch games and I still think this is fucking retarded from their side. I enjoyed Palworld from my ps5

>>715703456
^ One such cultist

>>715703456
>Make gaming worse
In what regard?
Nintendo is holding gaming back

>>715703495
They're not being sued for the designs.

>>715703246
why are anti-nintendo fags such violent negroes/brownoids they want to murder and assault people over playing games on a handheld in public? do you people seethe this much when someone is playing games on their phones?

>>715703495
They have never once been sued or threatened to be sued for any of the designs.

>>715703524
No, more like Sony and Microsoft is holding gaming back. Nintendo is doing its own thing but somehow gets blamed for anything bad that's happening in the video game industry.

>>715703560
>>715703596
I am quite aware of that yeah. It's funny since the design thing was pretty much the most vocal of things that pro-Nintendo & anti-Palworld people were screaming about that the game would be sued for. But here we are.

>>715703441
compared to most unreal engine games i think this one's alright better than that one space fallout game levels of quality could've been a fluke like that day before game which was a huge scam

>>715703624
They still hold the patents for sanity mechanics that could've been used to make many good games
That's holding back
>But other companies
Yes them too, Nintendo included

>>715703378
Agreed

>>715703485
So it's a generic crafting survival game like all the others. Except it has pokemon which is literally the only reason people cared. got it.

>>715703524
Simple, if Nintendo wins absolutely nothing will happen based on precedent. It's not the first patent case in gaming let alone in Japan and nothing has changed.
If pocket pair wins then you have a situation where companies will be able to copy a game mechanic almost 1 to 1 without the risk of being sued if it's a patented mechanic based on the precedent a loss would set. It would be one step from China in terms of creativity at that point

>>715680860
Gamefreak actually is putting in effort, just not with pokemon.
Their new game, Beast of Resurrection actually looks pretty impressive.

If it wasn't nintendo who are known for going rabid at even the slightest hint of an infringement I'd assume this was an attempt to shut the door on any potential pokemon clone. Palworld is a strange ARK clone, but it is a foot in the door of a pokemon clone.
Which terrifies nintendo because they've got a great thing going. Did you guys know that gamefreak has 200 employees? SCS Software, the dudes that make truck simulator has double that. The returns on pokemon games must be absolutely massive. 200 dudes make the games for one of the biggest IPs on the planet.

>>715703718
Every other company in Japan is doing the same shit. Hell, every other company in the west is also doing the same shit. Patent wars and trolls are rampant in every nation, so blaming them for simply doing what every big name company have been doing way before they have is retarded as fuck.

>>715703748
i didn't care for the base building honestly i liked the fighting part it felt more engaging than any pokemon game ever put out to be honest all it needs is a polish and its amazing

>>715703845
woah more UE5 parryslop
just what we needed, thanks gamefreak!!!

>>715703485
>it’s clear that it shares nothing meaningful with Pokémon beyond having creature collection the gameplay
I mean the main capturing mechanic that you use to increase the monsters at your disposal do function the same way between PLA and Palworld, the former releasing several years before Palworld.
The auto mount switches also function the same way so those are fairly meaningful connections already.

>>715703748
And Pokemon is a generic turn based game like all the others. Got it.

>>715703938
>Nintendo invented ball throwing and mounts

>>715703718
>They still hold the patents for sanity mechanics that could've been used to make many good games
That's not how patents work. Anyone could have made new sanity mechanics but they chose not to.
Mainly because it takes effort no one is willing to put in to do.

Flambelle

>>715703938
Palworld has no auto mount switching though

>>715704091
Not after they were forced to remove it.

>>715703995
Of course they didn't. They invented the mechanics hence why they were granted the patent and there are no instances of prior art without making the mistake of thinking concept = mechanic.

But hey, maybe if you lie for Pocketpair some more they'll see you're doing your civic duty as their Indian shill.

>>715704056
Spray cheese lookin ass.

>>715704056
I hate how uncreative their designs are.

>>715704124
The only two things removed were:
-Glider pals graphically showing up
-Throwing your pal sphere

>>715704126
In japan, you don't actually need to be the inventor, just first to file. But suing somebody for game mechanics is a bad move regardless. Should Springer have sued Nintendo for mario killing enemies by jumping on them in a 2d game? Or Space invaders sue everybody else who used a multiple lives system to allow for several failure states before game over?

Nintendo is literally pulling up the ladder behind them. Very, very bad move.

>>715703263
So you think that if the animations were shit in the trailer, there was a styles clash that suggests lazy devs who just didn't care, and then people who played the game reported that there was nothing to do, the combat was annoying, and it was extremely glitchy, it would have sold as much as it did? If you say yes, you're retarded. Reports about gameplay were always strong. I like it way more than Ark, though I think that it needs a second map with an interesting gimmick. Maybe we'd have that if they weren't being harassed by Nintendo.

Success is never due to just one variable. It's a complex formula. You need to get all of the basics correct, and then you need that something extra. That "something extra" for Palworld was Pokemon-style designs.

>>715704124
If you want to use a ground mount or flying mount you have to call it out and mount it manually. There is no automatic switching of any kind even with gliders.

>>715704126
The pokemon ball throwing is just a rip off from Dragon Balls Capsule Corp Capsules and Ultraman.

They were not the first to invent it. Just the first to file for it.

>>715704315
>>715704196
Zhut the fuck up.

>>715704176
I too hate modern Pokemon designs

>>715704176
but enough about modern pokemon

>>715687223
People who are fans of corporations are not humans. I wish I could stop having to share this board with subhumans who are akin to Disney adults.

>>715703387
It's still there and untouched. However, you can no longer throw the ball to summon the creature. They just spawn right next to you.

>>715704056
I thank her for providing me many flame organs. On that note I really hope we get a stronger elemental crossbow down the line or change the system so regular bows can use elemental arrows.

>>715704270
And letting them blatantly use a game mechanic they patent without getting permission first leads to low effort copycat shit from China that /v/ loves to complain about. A very very very bad move.

>>715704345
Concession accepted

>>715703427
The slow ones talk about the game. The fast ones talk about Nintendo and the lawsuit. Nothing game related. It's easier to be angry than play and talk about the game. Such is /v/

>>715704518
Like I said, nintendo games would not exist if the inventors of game mechanics sued for them. Pokemon didn't invent hitpoints to track health, or turn based battles, or elemental weaknesses, in case a stupid fuckarse retard such as you didn't know.

>>715703441
people keep calling it an asset flip but where exactly are the assets? Are they in the unreal engine store? Has anyone shared the link to where I can buy these assets and make the game 1:1? The Day Before was a proven asset flip since they had links everywhere. Where's Palworld?

>>715704494
the fact that elemental arrows need elemental bows to be used and you can't just use all of them with a single bow is such a bullshit

>>715704270
>In japan
Every country works on first to file. It's not a Japanese exclusive thing.
>Should Springer have sued Nintendo for mario killing enemies by jumping on them in a 2d game?
They wouldn't have been able to, jumping on enemies is the CONCEPT not the mechanic. Where Mario and Springer differ, I assume you're talking about SMB as well since the MB arcade game is a completely different mechanic, is that Mario has physics. In Springer you don't rebound off of an enemy, you just fall and crush it whereas Mario jumps off of it.
>Or Space invaders sue everybody else who used a multiple lives system to allow for several failure states before game over?
Couldn't sue for that either since the mechanic was reliant on the money put into it. Any game that had lives exist independently of money would be fine.

That's how patents work. They are ridiculously specific.

>Nintendo is literally pulling up the ladder behind them.
It's more that they're leaving the ladder but you have to make your own way up it or pay for assistance.

>>715703427
>The ARK shill is still seething because no one wants to talk about his slop game
KEKAROO

>>715680564 (OP)
That would be nice. Patent trolling shit might be less common, and the Palworld devs would have to money to make something that's fun beyond the first half hour.

>>715704337
TV shows don't have mechanics anon.

>>715704917
>to make something that's fun beyond the first half hour
spotted the zoomer

>>715704870
>Every country works on first to file. It's not a Japanese exclusive thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_art

>>715703587

nintendo literally files patents for the sole purpose of suing other game developers to use game mechanics to harm them financially

fuck anyone who supports that shitty company

>>715688965
This goofy bait is still getting posted, and gets dumber every time.

Patents on game mechanics are stupid anyway. I can understand explicit copyrights or patents over art designs like the Steamboat Willie or Pikachu but elements that form the gameplay (Or Service if you want to enter the more literal market) should never be patentable. It's just the inofficial and legal way of forming a monopol.

>>715705006
>I-it's bait please believe me
Holy mother of cope

>>715704981
And this is where you stop using Wikipedia.
Https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_to_file_and_first_to_invent
>Since March 16, 2013, after the United States abandoned its "first to invent/document" system, ALL COUNTRIES have operated under the "first-to-file" patent priority requirement.

>>715697954
Be honest for once in your life when you answer this:
Do you think that Palworld has more people buying and playing it than mainline Pokémon games?

>>715688965
every dragon quest monster was a ripoff of dungeons and dragons
again, japs prove they have 0 creativity

>>715698635
Yeah, Green Cinderace and Yellow Lucario are totally unique and not at all direct clones with changed colors.

>>715680690
>>715680564 (OP)
US or japan, this is important

>>715685809
God I shoot hate snoys. I legit wish I could come in contact with one of them so I could stab them. I live in Texas and open carry and if any snoy started shit with me I'd legit shoot and kill them. I fucking hate snoys. I'm not afraid to go to jail over it. Or prison. Went to jail 3 months ago because I got in a fight with my ex and broke her nose. Fuck ps5. Fuck anyone who likes them. If you're an snoy you're the enemy and not only do I hope you die, I hope your entire family and everyone you love dies. I want to go to your grave and dig your little sisters rotting corpse up and shit and piss in the decaying mouth of what's left of her skull then put a Donkey Kong Bananza shirt on her and rebury her. I'd legit kill myself if I was an snoy. I couldn't live with myself. I'd end up on SSRIs to try to deal with the depression that I owned a PS5 and then end up Kurt Cobaining myself due to the agony. This isn't a joke and it's a shoot. I'll never own a gaystation or respect or be friends with anyone who likes sony. I hope they all end up like Chris Benoit and get CTE and kill themselves and all of their families so my tax money doesn't go towards benefiting them anymore. I legit wake up everyday and pray to the lord above that you and everyone you love contract horrible degenerative diseases so I can watch you slowly die more and more everyday while I enjoy my life and play with my Switch 2 with my friends who also enjoy their lives and aren't pedophiles.

Ya seethe? Ya bubblin? Ya boilin? Ya stickin a sounding rod up your urethra while jacking off to your hardrive of 500GB of child pornography that you keep hidden from your parents underneath your bed along with the gun you plan on using to shoot up a school? Ya gonna jerk off to 5 year old's shaved pussies later and fantasize about cuming in a little boy's asshole and having a secret relationship with him? That turn you on? I bet it does you faggot nigger snoy. Fuck you snoy.

>>715700208
Not at all, especially with how many rip off designs from the most recent 5 generations.

>>715705281
You're trying too hard, no one is going to read your shitty falseflag attempt.

>>715705120
Sis...

>>715705125
pal that was cut from the game also the guy who was doing these comparison lied later on to be resizing them to match up and later deactivated like a bitch so im disregarding this

>>715705281
Most mentally stable Nintendo fan

>>715705094
Do you think the birds at the bottom of the image are similar to one another?

>>715705292
Man, I love how desperate palfags got.

>>715705003
okay but what does that have to do with your violent fantasies of murdering, robbing or assaulting people in public playing on a switch?

>>715705237
>Yellow Lucario
Anubis is just their Anubis from Craftopia turned into a pal

>>715704870
Mario Bros was an arcade game with multiple lives being granted after currency being paid. But even before the 1985 home console release,
Space invaders released on home console in 1980. Either way, couldn't have worked if Taito sued.

Also, I'm pretty sure the mechanic of jumping on enemies to kill them would be a separate patent from what happens AFTER you jump on an enemy.

>>715705389
>nintenbro invented Egyptian mythology

>>715698635
>release trailer to absolute silence from the competition despite the internet losing their minds over using a flaafy as a shield
>use the next 2 years to really flesh out the game
>release it
>it becomes popular
>THEN the competition is mad about copying and is putting you through the legal wringer
why do anything, ever?

>>715705336
Answer the question, it's a simple "yes" or "no".

>>715705378
why do you people always try to double down once you are caught in a lie your ego is not that serious

>>715705378
Retardbro...

>>715705383
they enable nintendo

>>715705389
Odd how it has the same proportions, eyes, paw shapes, and poofy thigh/pants Lucario does when it's totally based on something else.

Palworld designs aren't great, but Pokemon designs have also been shit since 3rd gen.

>>715705395
>Mario Bros was an arcade game with multiple lives being granted after currency being paid.
Yeah, and it functioned differently. If I remember right you can actually set how many tries you have in the SI machine.

>I'm pretty sure the mechanic of jumping on enemies to kill them would be a separate patent from what happens AFTER you jump on an enemy.
No, it would be all one mechanic since it's a result of that action.

>>715705441
>despite the internet losing their minds over using a flaafy as a shield
So we're now admitting they copied the designs closely enough that the general populace saw a direct correlation?

>>715696879
I am one of those fags who shat on this franchise and I would have continued to do so but nintendo has ultimately become much more hateable in a very short period of time. for killing iwata they deserve worse than I can even fathom how to bring to their doorstep.

>>715705378
I'll never understand why they tried to demonize the guy over proportional scaling as if that's a wholesale edit.
I mean, if he did edit it like that someone would have posted the original model and to this day, nothing.

>>715700565
I've wasted my time reading this conversation chain, and as an independent party I can confidently say you GOT OWNED HARD by that other anon. Don't post ever again, thank you <3

>>715701148
>I know people who call this good looking for graphics
>Even on the Switch 2 are the frames dropping when entering the swamp parts in the biome
I swear to god even with 60 FPS this is still fucking dogshit. You just get more frames to ogle at the ugly mess.

Imagine if Michaelangelo tried to paint a picture of a woman, but then da Vinci barged in and said "YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE I PATENTED THE ACT OF PAINTING A WOMAN".

everyone going why doesn't nintendo just make pokemon better its because they don't have to. any AAA DREAM is to have a call of duty and pokemon is nintendos call of duty. a slop reskinned same shit product that they can push out yearly that will sell out no matter how shit it really is

>>715705674
Anon, why would you come back roughly two hours later just to samefag?
And it's obvious you're samefagging because no one but you two gave a fuck.

>>715705442
Honey Boo Boo Child...

>>715705581
So no home console mario.
Also, I used springer as an example because its the first game i know of before mario that used jumping to kill an enemy, but if you really want, I can check if in those 3 years inbetween springer and mario somebody else had physics after landing on the enemy. Would knowing the correct name of the company suing Nintendo into shutting down cause you to accept that Nintendo may have been dependent on not being sued by other patent trolls for using similar game mechanics, or are you going to insist on continuing?

>>715705703
It's more like someone tracing the Mona Lisa, changing the color of her hair and clothing, giving her a tiny hat, then claiming they made a totally original work of art.

>>715704795
It is a strange decision that most game do not follow, maybe it'll get revised

>>715685809
They don’t have to do that because… they just don’t, okay?!

>>715705703
He would slap him and say THAT-A IS-A COPYRIGHT YOU-A MORON

>>715705786
Show proof there was tracing.

>>715705771
>"totally 32,000,000 players"
>51,000 playing
Uh huh. So that's a "no" then.

>>715705674
faggot he didn't even answer my question on what mechanic he was talking about he was avoiding the question like plague because he didn't actually have any case that they stole mechanics hence he had to say "general mechanics" cause he didn't know what he was talking about and kept goal posting by saying i never played it

>>715696436
I’m trans btw :)

>>715705928
They look nothing alike.

>>715705928
Literally every detail you circled are different. What the fuck.

>>715681361
If Nintendo win then universal could just retroactively sue Nintendo for King Kong copyright infringement and demand the profits from every DK game.

>>715705928
so inspiration but not a full on copy i would say uncreative but be fr anon this isn't a exact copy they aren't the same

>>715680564 (OP)
>Nintendo changing the wording of the patent in the middle of the case

>>715705292
how the fuck are you retards still on this "muh scaling" shit
you really should've gotten how this works by now

I see the same three samefag paltranny retards cope general still going strong

>>715705997
>>715706038
If you honestly believe that, then you're beyond help.

>>715680690
>precedent against patent trolling
Only in JP law if it wins, not going to stop Corsair from charging companies to use their controller grip buttons patent

>>715706074
fr fr no cap he bussin dawg they didn fanum tax they goofy ahh ong

>>715706183
pro tip: they don’t believe it

>>715706103
Lel how scummy

>>715688965
Holy shit

that didn't happen though

>>715706183
anon if u general believe generally copied everything the circle highlighted your genuinely retarded but i wont disagree with you that its uncreative because it looks like variant of a alohan cinderance with grass typing theres no lie there but the design its way different to the comparison

>>715706183
Maybe you don't have eyes then.

>>715696879
Good morning sir.

>>715705336
At this rate it's set to outsell every pokemon game

>>715705928
Makes me think of Summer Wars

>>715692353
Pokemon could have and should have done this sort of game a long time ago. But it didn't and now someone else did and it was a success. Nintendo can get fucked. Lazy bastards have been severely underperforming for well over a decade. Most of the big players in the gaming industry have gotten too high huffing their own farts for so long. Quality drops every year while prices rise.

>>715706395
no wonder tendies have been seething so hard recently

>>715705937
Sorry, did I reply to you? Why do you talk to me? I said that he got owned, but you're so insecure you demand even more validation.
Sorry, but because of your petty behaviour, I take my words back. You're both retarded. Thanks for your attention <3.

>>715706485
>makes me think of boss baby

>>715688965
>Japanese monsters in games are inspired by Japanese monster myths
Wow...It's nothing.

>>715706395
I find it funny that nintendo fans parade around sales when they sell two versions of basically the same game each gen

>>715695169
...nigger, what?? Take Nintendo's cock out of your ass and think

I really don't care about this whole nintendo vs pocket pair deal.
I just like the game.
Which is wild considering that I never managed to get into one of these survival crafting games before.
I have tried ark and it didn't click at all for example.
Then again, palworld is not much of a survival crafter, it feels more like an adventure game with some crafting on the side.
That it's not an always online live service of some sort is also fucking great. I play it solo and it's really god damn fun.
If the game dies tomorrow for whatever reason, I've gotten my 30 bucks worth some five times over at this point, but it's pretty clear that these guys intend on making it through the 1.0 mark.
Here's hoping the next big update (more like fucking expansions really) leans more on the edgy "pokemons with guns and slavery" vibe.
Or not, I'll be happy if they also go the rimworld way with world reactivity, living factions, etc.
Also more pal interactions. Now that we have this trust system, they really should do more with it. Gate some cosmetic stuff behind that.

>>715706485
Our War Game is so good Mamoru Hosoda made it twice.
And I loved it both times.
Fucking A.

>>715706595
>*GLUCK GLUCK* THANK YOU SLOPKET PAIR *GLUCK GLUCK*

>>715680564 (OP)
Don't trust Nintendo, Nintendo is asshoe!

Nintendo is the big poo poo

>>715705780
>So no home console mario.
Yeah, it's an irrelevant matter since the home console version of SI didn't have lives anyway. It was just one hit and you're done if I remember right.
>Would knowing the correct name of the company suing Nintendo into shutting down cause you to accept that Nintendo may have been dependent on not being sued by other patent trolls for using similar game mechanics
Of course, because
1) you'd have a point
And 2) you would have shown proper comprehension of the subject matter in that you know the difference between concept and mechanic.
That said its unlikely that you'll find a game with similar physics to Mario since it wasn't much of a thing before it.

now that the dust is settled were they smart enough to get a flat rate lawyer instead of a until the lawsuit is over lawyer

It's genuinely over for nintendo

>>715706506
Fair enough anon but its genuine pointless arguing on this thread to be honest nobody really do their research or anything besides trying to own "pal/poke fans" it's really not helping the case or anything at besides bickering the only thing but goodluck with my attention though

>>715706761
They've been spending their money on Indian shills rather than a good lawyer.

>>715681480
Nintendo isn't paying you to defend them online

>>715706781
Maybe if you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't need to shitpost like this.

>>715706612
>I have tried ark and it didn't click at all for example
Those games seems to focus more on PvP stuff I'm glad Palworld is more set on improving the world and Pals themselves

>>715706881
i was though im not the one spamming "you never played to game" though instead of answering questions thats pretty much not how arguing works but okay

>>715706821
Solution: Indian lawyer

>>715706781
because you paltroons have no actual arguments and are just cultists kek

>>715706821
True

>>715707031
Oh the irony...

>>715707030
I don't think someone shitting in the courtroom is going to get pocketpair the win.

>>715702078
I think the big thing you could argue is the whole computer storage system of Pokemon boxes. Why is that even a thing aside from SMT storing the demons in a computer?

>>715688965
It's amazing how every pokemon in that image looks better than the DQ counterpart. I get why it become a multi million franchise.

>>715685809
>Pokemon LE BAD!!!
Even the worst pokemon game mogs palworld

>>715698308
>>715698898
it's literally a cult, just like trying to tell pol thirdies that their 2k old space fiction trilogy was written by the same tribe they hate so much

>>715707031
Nigger, Nintendo fans are the most queer, degenerate, tranny-infected on the planet. Somehow even Undertale is less of a troonfest than Nintengroom.
You don’t get to call anyone a tranny.

this will end with a Switch 2 port

>>715691054
Because Coromon makes no money with merch, Pokemon biggest cashcow are from merch.

Palworld does, that's the issue in Nintendo's eyes.

>>715688965
I personally thought the capture mechanics reminded me of a lot of Megami Tensei (1987).

>>715706716
> home console version of SI didn't
The 1980s Atari 2600 version didn't, the 1982 Atari 5200 version did have a multiple lives system to be closer to the arcade game.

On the bouncing off of enemies thing, I'll do some research. You'll likely not see it in this thread, but your ass is grass.

>>715707224
yeah, it is ironic paltrannies have literally no argument and every time they pretend they have one it get btfo and they sperg the fuck out and go into full retard cope mode

>>715680860
Anon, GF already feels the heat of competition... with phone games. They've stated before they see phone games as their competition, and used it as reasoning for cutting down on postgame content and general difficulty. They legitimately believe offering the player any form of resistance will just drive them back to mobile garbage.

>>715706976
Yeah, that's probably a big part of it.
There's a fundamental design to most of these games that I just don't jive with that Palworld seems to have, by accident or otherwise, avoided. Or at least not focused on as much, I dunno.

>>715685809
Nintendo isn't interested in making games for the players.

>>715707385
loony paltroony meltdown

>>715707405
Their big issues are that:

1. Palworld made them look stupid
2. They have a lot of money that Nintendo wants to get their hands on

Most litigative people are very petty and greedy.

>>715703083
Ah that explains it, no wonder the article is garbage and is actually old

>>715701846
that's the fucking point you mong
those games were big but Nintendo didn't touch them, they even let them thrive. them being in the past doesn't matter because they happened. it's one thing the "muh precedence" fags miss.

>>715707581
>>715707581
>Palworld made them look stupid
It's funny that people believe this when they didn't care until well after palworld fans attracted their attention by spamming their various social media pages.

>>715682072
It's *

>>715707683
you really need to get a new argument schizo, you have a literal toddler mentality, probably because of severe autism which is why you play babby slop like palworld

>>715707683
they couldn't touch them they literally can't sue them because they are not even alike at all they're more of befriend the monster than enslave the monster i swear pokemon fans got to put down the crack they have way more of case to sue games like temtem but those games are so irrelevant there would be no reason to sue them

>>715707564
You have no womb.

>>715707805
>>715707880
India isn't sending their best

>>715687736
They own 1/3. The other 2/3 are split between Game Freak and Creatures, Inc.

>>715685809
They unironically can't because of how the franchise's ownership is structured. Game Freak owns 1/3 of the copyright and through whatever agreement they have in the form of TPC GF has guaranteed themselves the arbiters of mainline Pokemon for better or worse. It sounds unbelievable, but even as the bigger company with publishing rights, Nintendo can't just force GF to make better games. Masuda has even bragged about it in a way, on the record, that neither Nintendo or TPC could impose on them. So the most important part of the IP, the place where every other aspect springs forth from, remains in control of one of the laziest, most incompetent developers in Japan, who've made it very clear that they stopped caring about the IP years ago.

>>715707880
Palworld is also irrelevant

>>715707880
I'm other words, it has nothing to do with Palworld's popularity and everything to do with the fact that they copied mechanics like they usually do.

>>715707998
Then why sue?

>>715707752
Pokefag delusions

>>715707908
>>715707943
slopworld tranny defense force really didn’t like that truth bomb

>>715707880
so then you literally admit that they copied 1:1 pokemon shit

>>715708053
imagine being so braindead you newd this explained to you thousands of times

>>715708086
>pokemon
You mean that franchise that was copied from other games?

>>715708008
no its because they're not even the same subgenre its niggers like you all who thinks any game where you befriend monsters is a pokemon-like

>>715708147
Yep, pokemon copies so much that to this day no one has been able to name a single mechanic and describe how it functions in the same way as another game.

>>715708147
hey look the braindead autistic retard still doesn’t get it SHOCKING

>>715708147
I swear if you fucking post the dragon quest image I will strangle you

Yeah I'm thinking Palchads won

>>715708245
>Yeah I'm thinking Palchads won
>*takes estrogen pills*

>>715708230
I'll never forget the day he thought that Enix invented clams with tongues.

>>715708230
>>715708221
>>715708202
Look the tranny really didn't like it when it happens to xim

>>715708312
>Nintendo fan response to the OP
Not sure how taking estrogen pills helps you cope but ok

>>715708367
>copies, imitates, AND steals other more intelligent anons posts and insults
SLOPWORLD MOMENT

nobody can possibly be so mindbroken by palworld right?it has to be nintendo shills of india or anons baiting right?...right?

>>715708384
>stole my post again
just like daddy slopket pair!!
>>715708486
>m-mindbroken
>i-india
and yet no arguments

>>715708516
I mean, people hate are absolutely enraged by Nintendo and Pokemon so it stands to reason at least one person would be angry about Palworld.

We just haven't seen them yet.

I will have two cakes

lol, Nintendo has money to drag out this lawsuit until Palworld is bankrupted.

>>715708516
buddy, your thread's at bump limit
you can stop now

>>715708604
Smart man.

>>715708486
You mean those "intelligent" anons posted insults instead of facts?

>>715708604
Eating two shitty cakes doesn't make eating two cake good.

>>715708658
you aren’t intelligent mad got no facts

>>715708608
Not that they have to. Pocketpair doesn't have an argument against them and even if they try to claim that they're generic patents all they would have to do is bring up the interviews where mizobe said he copies mechanics as well as point to their other games.

man, this thread really fucking stinks it's just faggots fighting for no reason do yall even game instead bitching about who's game is more mid or flawed this thread would've been good if niggers actually brought receipts for their claims

>>715708760
Yes, I play Palworld, and all nintendies can seethe and piss themselves.

>>715708760
>yall
slopworld lost

>>715708760
Welcome to palworld threads. No one is interested in talking about the game itself.

>>715705928
You're doing it again!

ayo yall mid ass frfr where all dems receipts that btfo palnigger at doe!????!!?

>>715708882
There have been many threads with nothing but game discussion but there is always one schizo that has to derail everything.

>>715709006
mupdadup palspear dat dawg!

>>715708882
>>715708854
>>715708839
>>715708897
your proving my point do something else and play the games you enjoy instead of being faggots about it and bitching about to other people how you hate these certain people also why are you all here if you hate said game that's seem counterproductive

>>715708882
There is Palworld game discussion ITT.

>>715709006
Yep.
And they're all incredibly slow with the same people posting in them.

>>715709138
I don't know about you but I'm on the shitter right now. When I'm done I'm going to start my MG Zeta Gundam

>>715708760
Well yeah, the OP is intentionally made for people to fight. Those are the quickest Palworld threads because people are willing to bitch. You'll have to learn to not go in those threads.
See >>715704567

>>715709138
I prove your point when I say I play Palworld?

>>715708882
This!
It's like my favorite youtuber Dunkey said, "fuck this shit dead game".

>>715709390
sorry didn't mean to reply to you my mouse is kind of old as shit