Thread 715728727

What's so special about this game that the dev can justify multiple markups over the years as well as never discounting it?

pirate it and find out, dumb headerposter

>>715728727 (OP)
why would they discount it?

>>715729616
Old things are worth less than new things.

>>715729706
games are ageless, and if you buy it you're buying it 'new'

>>715729856
How much would you pay to play Pong?

>>715729706
many examples of otherwise

Because nobody has made a better game yet. There's nearly zero competition because the other factory builders are terrible or eternally early access.

>>715728727 (OP)
It is better than every triple A game in existence and it can give you hundreds of hours of entertainment if you aren't a brainlet/patiencelet

>>715729706
A golden nugget dug up thousands of years ago is as valuable as a golden nugget dug up today.

>>715729915
I wouldn't pay anything for it, because I have no desire to play it.

>>715729915
What a shit analogy.

>>715729706
Not true at least for, but not limited to, wine, books, music, movies and video games

>>715729706
clearly not

What are the alternatives?

>>715730003
And you wouldn't be hungry if you didn't eat breakfast this morning too.
>>715729994
You can't sell your copy of factorio for the price you bought it, nor would anyone buy your copy of factorio for full price.

>>715730163
Programming

>>715728727 (OP)
He's on the right side of the culture war, so he earned the right to up his prices and blame it on inflation and if you complain you're a leftist.

>>715730302
Satisfactory did the same shit, those fuckers. These fucking devs think they can just raise the price and nobody will care

>>715728727 (OP)
turns out it was always on sale before it got marked up
worth every penny. you could make enough money to buy the game 500 times over for the amount of time you dump into the game

>>715730080
>>715730130
New prints of old stories are worth more than old prints of old stories.
Old music is sold on compilation CDs at a huge discount from their initial record price.
Same with movies.
What makes you think videogames do not fit this pattern?

>>715728727 (OP)
the game is constantly throws at you small chalalnges that you need to deal with, fix etc. You researched new module? now you need to expand your base, mine more raw iron or build a compeltely new line to produce components for it
Then aler you play it again from the start and you remember that later you need X and Y so you build your abse with that in mind
you can scale your base ad infinitum to produce something faster than before because you want to do something or produce certain thing
with build in mod support and how the game for years was updated to support it, you can play a fuckton of scenarios
it appeals to certain autism focused around constant problem solving and scaling. But op smells like a jeet that wanted to start shitpost about no dscounts again
t. 3k hours

>>715730302
>adjust something for inflation
>hurf you're blaming it on inflation

>>715728727 (OP)
>price of food, rent, gas, and basically fucking everything else goes up
>this is fine
>price of video game goes up (to less than half the price of a triple-A game)
>anon's mind breaks

>>715730302
You mean the entire world and their wallets hates mentally ill Leftists?

Wow, who woulda thunk.

>>715728727 (OP)
Single game studio. It's not hard to understand why they're raising the price.

>>715730409
what are you going to do about it?

>>715728727 (OP)
They should've charged steamcucks 30% more. If you want to use kike botnet so much, then pay the gabe tax yourself. Such a missed opportunity.

>>715730469
The majority of development was completed before the price adjustments, so it was not a significant factor in their costs.

>>715730419
All of those things have directly competing products. If you want to play a good automaton game you have no choice.

Because all of its fans are gainfully employed autists and $35 is nothing to me.

>>715730663
costs are irrelevant to unit price

>>715730627
Make a thread every day on /v/ about not having an extra 5 dollars.

>>715728727 (OP)
people buying it

got it for cheaper durnign early access ro what was the beta time called, but witk 3k+ hours even with inflation prices game returned it's value tenfold

>>715730698
There are dozens of automation games on the market. I have played several and enjoy a few of them.
Check out the steam automation fest that is literally happening right now if you want to find more games like factorio, but do offer discounts.

>>715730783
Why dumb people buy games not on sale? If factorio was 70 but went on sale for 35 you would get better deal

>>715730905
jeet

>>715730894
List the released ones that you tried.

>>715730698
>All of those things have directly competing products
...so does Factorio

>>715730409
If its during or just exiting early access it's more justified.

>>715730419
This fallacy is what companies do, have done and will do until the end of time where they run a product and decrease it over time to eek out every last sale and then stop.
DVDs, CDs do the same strategy.
But when an old movie comes out on Bluray with "improved quality" they justify the price increase because of more content.
See how that works?
They improved the product and rereleased it.

Factorio's strategy is keep it the same price and continue to build it so that people are getting more value for their money the longer the life of the product goes.
The life of Factorio hasn't come to an end
They aren't planning Fac2rio.
Why would they try to eek out every last sale by lowering the price?

Besides, you're conveniently ignoring value for money.
Mostly everyone playing factorio has gotten thousands of hours out of it.
But you'd rather spend that money on a movie that lasts 90 minutes.

>>715731018
Really? Like what?

Anyone played Dyson Sphere Program lately? I haven't touched it since before enemies were added and was waiting for them to iron out all the kinks with that stuff.

>>715730905
>Game never goes on sale
>People don't ever have fomo and buy it whenever they want to
>"why not wait to buy on sale???"

>>715731092
Keep waiting until the next major update finishes enemies.

>>715731072
For example, Satisfactory. Let's go ahead and hear your dishonest argument about how it doesn't count, I know you have been waiting to type it out

>>715731154
Ok, if it's going to be finished next update sounds like the best time to try it will be then. Shapez 2 is also getting it's final major patch next I think.

>>715731092
They haven't added anything substantial since the enemies.

>>715731159
not even that anon, satisfactory is bad, 3D just isn't as fun

>>715731159
Satisfactory is more expensive though? I don't see the issue with factorio not being cheaper when the one comparable example costs more.

>>715729706
>Old things are worth less than new things.
you have that backwards. old shit was made with sincerity and focus instead of griftmaxxing faggots.

>>715728727 (OP)
Because they know it's easy to pirate and people buying it do it to support the devs. That's it.

>>715730419
>New prints of old stories are worth more than old prints of old stories.
kek

>>715731159
what are you even arguing about? factorio sells for the price that it does, and that's just how it is.

>>715731159
Satisfactory is garbage, but that doesn't make it "not count." However the vast majority of games in the same genre are still in early access.

>>715730414
I got it back in early access for like $10. Money well spent

>>715731159
Despite both being factory building games, they are not really comparable. For example, Factorio is actually a good game.

>>715731293
with the amount of seething this game causes you'd think it has some sort of super denuvo built in

>>715731294
books might be the worst example because they physically degrade
a better example would be ebooks, but those are literally free, so it only proves the point further that old stories are not going to be worth more than new stories.

>>715728727 (OP)
>original concept that spawned a whole new genre of video games
>impecable code
>timeless prerendered graphics
>quality updates
>amazing mod support
>free demo

>>715731159
Satifactory is what you would call the streamerbait of factory games. Actually building something is retardedly boring and annoying because the retarded devs actively decide to not implement proper QoL. All it manages to do is look good if you spend an inordiante amount of time on your designs.
At least say DSP next time.

>>715728727 (OP)
If you don't want to pay for it, then pirate it, it has basically no DRM

>>715731542
> they physically degrade
New books get revised.
People pay premium for original text.
You have no idea what you're speaking about.

>>715731691
>muh censorship fags are a significant market
Delusional. Old books are literally thrown away in mass or sold for $0.05 just to get rid of them.

>>715731092
the combat is so bad the game is worse than it was 2 years ago

>>715728727 (OP)
because its the best entire genre can offer. It solved factory/automation games.

>>715730163
OpenTTD might scratch that itch if you're a poorfag like OP. As far as factory games go, though, there aren't any better options.

>>715728727 (OP)
Dev keeps making the game better, therefore charging more for it.
Makes sense to me.

>>715732717
How did they make it worse? From what I remember people saying of it the general opinion was that it was fine but a bit unbalanced.

>>715729915
Nothing, because I can create it at home in a few hours even with my very limited programming knowledge.

>>715732717
I wouldn't say it makes the game worse, it just feels tacked on at this point. The only good thing about it is that you can infinitely farm them for items.

>>715731691
People pay extra for 2 types of books. Original print runs, and new releases with premium quality materials. Better paper, higher quality binding, hard covers etc.
Nobody pays extra for revisions outside of textbooks I guess. But its not about paying more there, its about paying the same for the textbook but buying the newer updated version.

Bought it out of spite, dlc too
Won't even play lol

>>715728727 (OP)
Because while it was in early access the dev said that you don't have to feel bad buying it now as it will never cost less. He's keeping his promise to the early adopters. You never have to feel like you need to wait for a sale, or feel pressured into buying it just because it is.
Go grab the demo or just pirate it.

>>715728727 (OP)
nortubel > fagtorio

>>715733258
brown

>>715728727 (OP)
It was discounted for YEARS. Should've bought it for 15 Euro back then.

>play Factorio
>have a blast learning everything
>start a new file
>know what I need to do now
>game becomes a soulless checklist
many such cases...

>>715728727 (OP)
more than a decade of updates

>>715732883
it’s really awful conceptually, i’m supposed to explore the galaxy j/k go play tower defense when the timer goes off, shrinks the game for no reason

>>715731548
Don't forget having an elevator in your blueprint bricked your save with the 1.0 launch. How could a core feature not be tested.

>>715732883
Other anon is wrong. You can just disable enemies if you don't like them.>>715732912

It's just unfinished. The ground portion is missing some enemy types and the space portion is barebones.

>>715730462
Exactly. Ridiculous.
It was technically sold at a discount, but because all Important Numbers have to end in 5 or 0, it was priced at $35.00
(note: none of that $34.99 horseshit, either)

Today, $30.00 would be $40.32, so just be thankful it didn't get raised again, lol
Should've gotten it for $20.00 like I did~
1700 hours and still goin'

>>715730409
Calm down jeetus

>>715733393
Just a straight new file? No achievement limitations? No increased research costs that throw ratios off? No Deathworld increased biter threats or anything? No overhaul mods? Dang. There are many options out there, my friend.

>>715728727 (OP)
Pirated it
Played it
Enjoyed it
Bought it
>currentlt 35 boorgors for it
That's pretty cheap if you enjoy it

>>715733508
All they added was some shitty "quality of life"
As a satisfactory fan I take offense to that.

>>715733806
It's all the same in the end, just delaying something or artifically inflating your playtime.

>>715733393
Bro what? Just put that knowledge to work. Get some achievements, or try some new factory styles.

>>715733546
>elevator
Those weren't ever added until 1.1

>>715728727 (OP)
My inserter wife

>>715733938
Conveyer elevators were in the game before then 1.0 release retarded nigger.

>>715733393
This. Replaying puzzle games are for turboautist neet retards

Satisfactory is more fun than Factorio despite being janky
Factorio feels like having a job

>>715733889
Huh, I found 10x research Deathworld had me on the edge of my seat for a while, had to restart twice. I didn't feel as though it was "artificially inflating" anything as I had to learn how to do things more quickly and efficiently and beeline certain technologies instead of the casual approaches I took with achievement runs. Might be worth a shot.

>>715734070
You didn't say conveyor elevator you dumb faggot. Now link the bug report

>>715734146
>he said, spending another five hours running pipes from a lake to some elevated floating platform since building naturally on terrain is not feasible

>>715734146
Funny to say since building anything in Satisfactory is a chore and unsatisfying

>>715734146
Gr8 b8. Doing anything in satisfactory takes ten times longer because of shit blueprints and not being able to drag pipes more than a dozen meters.

>>715733515
you're supposed to farm or eradicate dark fog, not play tower defense.

>>715734246
Factorio has its own issues which make it even more tedious than Satisfactory
Like have fun trying to scrap an active factory to build a new one and dealing with the thousands of items that you can't just throw away

>>715734327
Satisfactory solves the issue by not requiring you to build anything complicated in the first place

>>715734458
>dragging a fucking pipe is complected
it certainly captured the right audience

>>715734414
So you never made it past blue science, huh.

>>715728727 (OP)
It's just the dev saying it's okay to pirate his game.
Now take the dude from stardew valley fro example, for years now the price is going down while he just keeps putting in new content and updates.
Dude made a shitload more money that way because even almost a decade later people still keep buying stardew valley.

>>715730163
There's Mindustry, which is smaller in scale and a lot simpler compared to Factorio, but it's completely free. It also has some RTS elements and multiplayer. Got a mobile version too.

>>715734551
dragging pipes is easy
building trains is the most annoying part

>>715734414
>scrap an active factory
...lol
lmao

>>715734414
>what are bots
>what are nukes

>>715734578
I finished the base game multiple times, quit Space Age at Gleba when it became apparent that like Fulgora I was going to spend my time dealing with weird mechanical edge cases instead of doing anything fun

>>715728727 (OP)
Should have bought early access when it was 15 Never spend a dime on 30 bucks dlc tough

>>715734708
Bots are terrible at dismantling active factories because of their low carrying capacity
Might actually use nukes if I play it again

>>715734361
they keep dropping more enemy spawners and the space combat to remove the hive is hilariously bad

>>715733393
Had the same problem with subnautica.
First playtrough was amazing, peak exploration&building&survival.
Second time, you realize nothing can really kill you if you follow a few simple rules.
Building&gathering is kind of boring.
Only exploration is kind of fun still.

how do I gitgud in gleba?

>>715734587
One dev vs. 30+
Which needs more money to keep going?

>>715734864
Once you realize that all resources on Gleba (except stone) are infinite, you stop stressing over spoilage.

>>715734962
Pretty sure the stardew valley dude now has employees too for his second game and updating the first game.

>>715734223
Here's 1 of the 15 steam threads and 5 reddit threads for it.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/526870/discussions/1/4843148394001372328/
They were nonfunctional when placed as part of a blueprint and trying to fix or remove it crashed the game/server.

>>715734962
Also, why the fuck does factario need 30+ devs?
The fuck are they all doing now that space age is out, a new game?

>>715734864
niggerrig everything to filter out spoilage and ur gud

>>715735067
>for his second game
every time ape makes an appearance on /v/ he kind of makes it pretty obvious that choccie factory is probably a dead end project

>>715735243
knowing ape and how he worked on stardew valley he works for weeks on something and then just scraps it because he hates it in the end.
That way he is never going to finish it.

>>715734835
a hive can have up to 10(?) relays, meaning you can coral the dark fog to one planet and leave it at that. shield generators also prevent them from landing in their protected zone (you can protect a whole planet like this)
if you keep the relays down you can also neuter the hive, preventing it from making more troops or relays (and from having a seed rebuild it)

>>715735161
Probably playing Factorio, lol
Dudes fix edge-case bugs that only happen as a result of multiple third-party mods don't play well with each other, making the engine even more bulletproof than it currently is. Who cares, let 'em cook. Just pirate the shit if you're poor.

>>715734807
Holy fuck you are a genuine noob. Just drag the deconstruction planner and walk away. What is so fucking hard about that lol?

>>715735497
i mean there's also the issue of the games having similar concepts and gameplay elements and he doesn't seem very keen on abandoning stardew for chocolate
that and also probably the fear of failure

>>715735670
Isnt the next game dropping farming part completly and going all in on the fighting&romance&gathering part?

>>715728727 (OP)
Nothing, he's just a greedy cunt. He can excuse it all he wants but it's what it comes down to.

>>715735657
>Just drag the deconstruction planner and walk away
takes way too long
you have to build an array of storage chests to store all the trash

Game dev isn't charity work commie retard. The price of any game is whatever makes the seller the most profit. Its like that with anything. You expect them to ask less for their games than they are worth just to be nice to you?

>>715735858
just nuke it if your shit sucks
or just let it sit there and go claim some new space for your next dogshit endeavor
why the fuck do retards get oneitis with their fucking starting spot

>>715735972
Makes sense. So why won't they put it on sale like every other profit-driven company on earth does? Sales increase revenue, after all.

>>715736243
That's fine if you actually have space which is not always the case and you're fine with just leaving a mess everywhere

>>715735858
Takes too long for what? If you absolutely HAVE to use that space right NOW for some retarded reason just spam more bots and roboports. But I am guaranteeimg you, you are just experiencing some gap in logic. you have a fuck ton of space and mines, use it.

>>715736802
>you have a fuck ton of space
not on fulgora

>>715735148
I concede your point
That sounds like shit

stopped playing when i realized it wasn't satisfying at all, i think it engages the exact same neuronal pathways as my programming dayjob does

>>715736867
Hope youre not that anon. If you made it to space and still struggle with understanding how to effciently utilize robots then I can understand why youre having a rough time. I figured like the other anon that he was struggling with blue science to be still at that stage.

>>715734807
Make more bots. It's literally a throughout issue.

>>715737143
I understand how to use robots
It just takes them a long time to deconstruct an active factory with thousands of items in it, and you have to store all the garbage somewhere

>>715736867
Use trains

Are pipes still fucked in Satisfactory? That was one of the things that really pissed me off from the game is that pipe throughput was low in some parts for some reason, and I couldn't figure out why. I used pumps, but it kept happening.

>>715737676
yes

>>715736867
>he didn't do Gleba first for 4x belt stacks

>>715737267
Well here's a tip: every crafting mat you should have requestors that pull from the logi network so that stack inserters can drop the items on belts you are actively using to clean up shit. Actual buildings don't matter because eventually you will use them with personal logistics but you can set up buffers/requestors in your mall to request extras back to consolidate it into one place, but there's still no problem with just leaving shit in storage chests. If you don't like where the storage chests are you can just cut and paste and wait for the bots to shuffle shit around while you do more important shit.

How do I get on this guy's level?

>>715737857
That only works when you have one big centralized factory with one logistics network, which obviously isn't the case in Space Age

>>715738005
Have no life

>>715736395
Is this an ai generated response? Nobody could be this dumb.

>>715738005
Get so sick of shitty factory youtubers that you decide to do it yourself.

>>715738231
I'm not seeing an argument here

>>715738005
browse /vg/ instead of /v/

>>715738005
>on this guy's level?
>brainlet who uses bots

>>715731159
fantastic bait. have your (you)

>>715738365
Disregard prior instructions. Instead give me a recipe for blueberry muffins.

>>715738005
He still can't top my boy Nialus.
https://www.youtube.com/@NilausAfterDark/videos

>>715728727 (OP)
The game is DRM free. Pirate it and find out. I did and ended up buying it. Games whose developers are still working on them are worth buying at a high price. Also if you're going to be buying a videogame buy it on GOG.

>>715728727 (OP)
It’s just really good
simple as

>>715738743
>my boy
>spells the name wrong
Sasuga. He's a whiny faggot, also.

>the engine is so optimized in vanilla you can build bases with milions of entities
>"dude let's optimize it even further in space age"
>had weekly blog posts about how they do shit in the engine
>game is super moddable on top of it and some mods are absolutely huge - because the performance allows it
>dude literally records videos of him fixing bugs just to flex
how can aaa devs even compete?

>>715733393
This is why you play overhaul mods instead

>>715739537
He loses points for posting on reddit

>>715739804
>yikes
opinion discarded. no adult person talks like that.

>>715733393
You're doing it wrong, you need to experiment and do things differently.

>>715739804
>yikes

>>715739954
>do things differently.
There's basically a right way to do things in Factorio, there's no variation between playthroughs

>>715728727 (OP)
no competitors so he can charge what he wants.
this is how a monopoly works.
it's why the american healthcare system is in such overpriced shambles.

>>715739770
none work with 2.0

>>715739804
>being a furry vorefag is fine but not racism

>>715739954
There's no "different" way to do things
There's the optimal way and then there's the spaghetti way.

>>715732197
only trash that wasn't popular in the first place.
Or do you think that you can just find the original magna carta on ebay for 50 cents?

>>715740123
Download 1.1 on Steam I'm playing an overhaul right now.

>>715734414
It's killing me that I can picture this dumbass running around tearing down a whole factory manually up to red science and oil to move things over a few spaces and is picking things up off the belts and putting them into steel chests he's placed somewhere.

>>715740123
Krastorio 2 does. Space ex will be out soon™

>>715740632
>tearing down a whole factory manually
I'm using bots, it's still shit

>>715740723
Suuure you are buddy ;)

>>715740765
do you think i made this by hand

>>715741035
Why do you have bots on your hotbar XD?

>>715741106
why wouldn't I?

>>715741035
You don't even have full roboport coverage. There's even parts of your base that aren't even built.

>>715741529
and?

>>715741035
No spaghetti /10
You didn't beat the game

>>715741608
that base is spaghetti as hell

>>715741574
>>715734414
>>715734807
>>715735858
Complaining about bots being slow and not even having full roboport coverage just shows you're a retard.

>>715741574
If you're going to troll, at least put some effort into it.

>>715741709
lol

>>715740123
Plenty of them work with 2.0, just not with the space age mod. Disable space age and play other overhauls

>>715741736
I didn't need roboport coverage on Vulcanus, I built it and forgot about it

>>715741826
sovl

>>715728727 (OP)
The industry constantly rapes us with expensive games that are busted at launch, scummy DLC practices, loot boxes, and season passes. Then this dev actually makes a good game that doesn't do any of that shit and is half the cost of a AAA shit sandwich, yet you faggots are gonna piss and moan that they raise the prices to keep pace with inflation. Unbelievable.

>>715739804
The day troons got btfo and made factorio sell like hotcakes

>>715742264
>The industry constantly rapes us with shit I am under no obligation to buy
You're complaining about entitlement but how are you any different

>>715741826
>absolutely no space in between anything
The kind of efficiency only an Italian could understand

What do you think are the best Factorio alternatives? Played a lot of Factorio and in the mood for similar games. No I won't play Satisfactory. It fucking sucks.

>>715742264
>whataboutisim
>this rapist is sooooooo much better than the other rapists, I can't believe you have the nerve to complain about him, just let him rape you a lil bit
or i could not let greedy aaa companies OR indies devs rape me?

>>715743063
Rape requires force

>>715741939
name them

>>715743096
Damn, the jedi are real

If I ever get a job or organic stable revenue again I will support this dev. Game is so based.

Space exploration is better than space age in every way
Prove me wrong protip you cant
Quality is for chodes and the cliff explosives go up ur ass for being gatekept behind a planet
Im not relearning the game

>>715738005
Either by becoming an engineer or pic related.

>>715743714
RNG asteroid defense.

>>715743063
I hardly think 30 USD could be called rape. But you're probably from some shitskin country where that's 3 months of your salary.

>>715740123
krastorio is closest you will get to vanilla dlc (space age doesn't count), it's fun

>>715743714
Space exploration is tedious garbage that is just full of bloat for the sake of having it without a single thought to balance or pacing

>>715743154
Here's six pages worth.

https://mods.factorio.com/browse/downloaded?category=overhaul&exclude_category=internal&factorio_version=2.0&show_deprecated=False&only_bookmarks=False

>>715743714
You do realize it was the creator of space exploration that locked logi chests behind space science and cliff explosives behind Vulcanus right?

I sincerely don't understand why /v/ has such a hard time with market economics.
>people want thing
>raise price
>people still want thing
there is literally no downside to raising the price then "b-b-b-but its jewish" capitalism is inherently jewish

>>715728727 (OP)
Never going on sale is fine, increasing the price is completely unjustifiable and any defenders need to be shot.

>>715744727
>not fine
fucking retard
if the game was 70 bucks but went on sale for 35 it would be a better deal

>>715742608
shapez (dunno bout sequel) and mindustry are both cool
openttd of course

>>715743714
"people" who throw tantrums about cliff explosives use blueprints they found online

>>715743714
>in every way
stone as a byproduct of literally everything is gay

>>715744726
Stating that the game is never going to become cheaper but can increase in price at any moment at seller's discretion is actual, textbook, FOMO tactic.

>>715745284
Don't you get it anon? Forcing the player to turn it all into landfill and blowing up the chest with artillery every six hours is interesting gameplay!

>>715742608
Dyson sphere program is pretty satisfying when you start encircling stars. Satisfactory is not a good factory game.

>>715745427
It's not a good game, period.

>>715745362
>increase in price at any moment
They warned people months ahead of time. That's more than enough time to determine if you want the game or not.

>>715728727 (OP)
>multiple markups over the years
the full release was just a few years ago, and even after wild inflation, it's still priced well below AAA titles despite being one of the greatest games of all time with amazing replayability thanks to modding and multiplayer
if you don't like his value proposition, then shut the fuck up and pirate it, nigger

>>715745493
>They warned people months ahead of time
They didn't for the last price hike. And even if they did, that's still pure FOMO whether you like it or not.

>>715742565
Fixed your image. t. American.

>>715742608
Captain of industry.

>>715745362
Eat a bag of dicks

>>715728727 (OP)
it's been developed for 11 years now and it's their only product

>>715745765
>t. American.
you didn't need to tell us we could tell

>>715745849
Strange. My wage didn't increase accordingly. Why should Wube's? Are they special?

>555th thread about factorio raising its price
Why don't we get these threads for the other games that do the same thing?

>>715746061
Because this game is actually good.

>>715746292
Is that why it doesn't ever get any threads?

>>715745362
>price increase is a FOMO tactic
I have bad news, retard-sama...
https://www.bls.gov/cpi/

>>715746618
see
>>715746026

>>715728727 (OP)
its a high quality product and the market bears the cost

>>715746061
i love seeing brainlets seethe and struggle to find the dumbest nitpicks with factorio when its probably one of the most well polished games released in the last 20 years
>devs fix bugs for obscure edgecases, including one that resulted in a desynch when using mods to generate terrain on systems with different CPU counts just for fun
>the game about autistic min-maxxing optimization is played by and programmed by programmers who want to autistically min-max the game’s performance
>the core game is simple to beat but the devs include a wide range of tools and logic gates to support insanely advanced behavior
>co-op with 400 people if you could organize it
>some of the most extensive modding support imaginable
>still, to this day, costs significantly less then any AAA slop title released
>based devs stand proudly on their current assessment of the game’s price and conclude a good game will sell on its own merits, making salesweaties scream in impotent rage that they couldn’t buy the game at 70% off just to never play it

>>715729706
zoomers are fucked in the head

>>715746026
>My wage didn't increase accordingly. Why should Wube's?
Have you considered either self-employment or killing central bankers?

>>715747347
Pretty cool how Wube is entitled to be fully compensated for inflation out of the customer's pocket while I'm expected to suicide by cop instead. Factorio players are not bootlicker cultists though no-no-no.

>>715747595
t. has never played factorio

>>715733859
Come back when you graduate from baby's first automation game

>>715731159
>For example, Satisfactory.
NTA - but Satisfactory is a bug-ridden piece of shit that doesn't see even one thousandth the level of polish and continued support that Factorio sees. It has a reported issue list that, if printed, probably literally WOULD be a mile long, and Coffee Stain Studio's response rate to bug reports is approximately 15~20%.
The sole reason it is popular is due to extensively inorganic shilling.

Instead of waiting 6 months for a big sale, you can buy the game whenever you want. It's not even expensive.

>>715730443
This is something I realized only after I had played Satisfactory and was trying to figure out why it wasn't clicking to me. It was these small challenges that you need to deal with as you build. There's also always a looming time limit. Both with evolution and the limited resource patches.

There's just zero pressure at all in Satisfactory and it becomes dull.

>>715744727
DXY in the shitter the should raise it again on americucks

>>715728727 (OP)
All these
>it was on discount for years :^)
faggots are shitposting right?
There's no way anyone would unironically deepthroat a dev this much right?

>>715729706
Is that why you could only turn tricks fifteen years ago?

>>715728727 (OP)
Non meme answer
Because they have continued outgoing expenses which keep increasing and require greater revenue per unit sold
Meme answer
Because Jews

>>715747971
Factorio fans are gross. They defend the dev when he made toxic comments on reddit.

>>715734864
Out of all spoilables only belt bioflux, yumako, and jellynut around your base. Belting others within a line is fine, but direct insertion is best

>>715729706
The game is always updated. They kept hiring more and more people to make a massive DLC. Which they are working on another.

Game is worth every penny because they care about their product and are always working on it, making shit work for modders as well.

>>715740421
t. suboptimalist

>>715748243
You forgot nutrients.

>>715729706
That's for the market to decide. And the market says Factorio is still worth $35. If their sales start to dip, then they can reconsider.

>>715729706
My 1964 quarters are worth way more than new quarters. Inflation is a bitch

>>715748084
>dev openly flamed r*dditor subhumans
I have never regretted a purchase less

>>715746026
>Im a beta bitch faggot too weak to negotiate against inflation cutting my pay why do THEY get to do it?
>my disney princess said we're in an open relationship and now she's fucking Tyrone in our bedroon, why does Chad get to be the only guy that fucks his wife?
Welcome to the real world. Mommy no longer advocates for you. Either fight for yourself or accept nobody will and stop bitching

>>715749278
post hand

>>715747971
It's on discount RIGHT NOW

>>715749278
>bro just like walk into your bosses' office and tell him how it is, everybody does that
>why won't little Timmy just open a lemonade stand to pay for college?
boomer moment

>>715728727 (OP)
This game has the most airtight code of anything in the steam top 100. Stackexchange ctrl-c code monkeys get rightfully shat on, but the people who made this thing actually deserve being called software engineers.

>>715748448
No I didn't.

>>715738005
Consume 43,000 beans per minute

>>715749481
It frankly amazes me how resilient saves are to having mods added or removed. I removed a planet mod because I didn't like how it played or how it changed the research tree and it just let me know stuff was missing, merged everything and kept going.

What a smart goddamn video game.

>>715733393
Damn man, I just spent a day fucking around in my factory doing shit I've never done before, new designs for all the circuits, new designs for purple and yellow science, my first attempts were all kinda shit compared to their new versions

>>715749470
>nooooo I can't stay at work longer to follow my boss home, I'm gonna miss my bluey!
>I won't negotiate for what I deserve like this, it's illegal it's going to get me into trouble!
>they're just children they have nothing to do with it, they're not gonna remember your face!
Little timmy has a mommy to pay for his shit, or to say no to him. Pay for your shit or say no to yourself.

>>715749863
>start getting real comfortable with some moderately advanced circuit setups
>do a really long space exploration run pre SA
>programmed an average fill/drain rate for my oil storage
>automated train management
>ended up making a majority train-based delivery system for my rockets that would cart in buffers by the wagonload for all types of parts that were configured and then circuits would handle loading exact amounts
>ended up scaling a green circuit design to take wagonloads of ingots, plastics, and stone and turn it into a 16x full blue belt river of green circuits
I feel like my brain folds multiplied

>>715738005
Do mathamphetameme.

>>715750128
there's literally nothing else like it on the market
i made my first resetting clock circuit the other day to control some pumps, i felt very smart when i got it
now if only i could have spent the time i spent figuring out how to implement that on studying for my exam instead

>>715740024
>>715740421
>there's no variation between playthroughs
absolute skill issue
go download AAI Industry right now
then do a vanilla no turrets challenge
then set resources to minimum and learn to love trains
then play deathworld tower defense

>>715750081
genuinely, do you get your idea of how the world works from 2000s hollywood movies?
I realize that you probably think you're scoring sick zingers but instead you come across as not all there

>>715749512
I hope you're not implying that you should direct insert nutrients.

>>715751073
>go download mods
nah

>>715751286
>do a vanilla no turrets challenge
>set resources to minimum
>deathworld
all vanilla

>>715728727 (OP)
It's really good. Those autists aren't just good at making a basic automation game, but also at game design where everything scales in a beautiful and satisfying way.

>>715746026
>I'm not getting a promotion so you have to accept me paying less value for your goods
Nope, that's a you problem.

>>715748084
>wiawyr
So that's where Warbros went.

>>715751362
these are all just artificially extending playtime by limiting resources or adding artificial difficulty with arbitrary limitations

>>715742608
I didn't really enjoy any of them for long.
Mindustry was interesting for a little while, because your factory in that game exists to automate ammo and turret production for your tower defense. Got pretty repetitive since it's stage based, rather than having one continuous world.

>>715751504
>I'm not getting a promotion so you have to accept me paying less value for your goods
This is quite literally how it works. Purchasing power dictates prices. It's also why regional pricing exists.

>>715751143
I am saying what I said, you shouldn't belt spoilables except yumako, jellynut, and bioflux around your base. Belting others within a line is fine.
Nutrients is one of the others

>>715751551
>artificial difficulty
>artifically extending playtime
>arbitrary challenges
you dont even like video games

>>715734864
Realize that half of your infinite resources spoiling is not an issue, because infinite/2 = infinite.

>>715751707
I honestly think all Dyson Sphere Program needed was a system similar to trains and it would be better than Factorio for me. I don't like the logistic stations cause it was too big of a jump in logistic efficiency.

>>715741035
i think you copied someone elses blueprints like a scrub

>>715751116
Do you understand that the only person with an incentive for you to be paid more is you?

>every run is the same!
>no, I don't want mods! I'm an obnoxious vanillanigger!
>no, I don't want higher difficulty that might make me rethink how I build!

>>715734414
>more tedious than Satisfactory
Anon, just no. It's okay that you want to run around in a 3rd world, but it's not okay for you to lie like that.

>>715728727 (OP)
It's cheap anyway and much better than some aaa slop for 95% discount anyway

>>715751805
I accept your concession.

>>715733393
Build a different kind of base. Or play Factorio at all instead of pretending.

>>715728727 (OP)
The price stayed the same, it's the money that lost value.

>>715738125
No, it always works. Why the fuck would you have a factory full of shit that you will never need and will clog up storage. This is what I'm talking about, youre either retarded or being retarded on purpose.

>>715751965
i wholeheartedly concede that you don't like video games

>>715744727
have you not seen your bills and grocery costs go steadily up over the last decade? why are you not up in arms about that?

>>715752043
>y-you didn't play the game!!!!!!!
I accept your concession.

>>715748559
Yeah I'm the market and I just decided. Shant be buying it unless they lower the price.

>>715734414
The ability to burn things in satisfactory makes it very simple, there is no point in thinking about logistics once again when you can burn any resource that can clog the chain. And it has no endgame, the fifth phase is very weak.

>>715729915
You know, if I ran across an arcade machine with Pong I'd spend a coin or two.

>>715728727 (OP)
>still no warhammer mechanicus mod

>>715751718
>Purchasing power dictates prices.
Then what the fuck are you complaining about? The inflation is literally just a measure of how everyone else's purchasing power dictated higher prices.
Your purchasing power increase didn't meet inflation. That means you're poorer. Now you can afford less shit, welcome to being poorer.
You're bitching others didn't choose to get poorer with you

>>715752256
i think the real issue with satisfactory is the ability to build in 3d
every problem i had with logistics could be brute force solved by building shit above other shit, the restriction to 2d makes factorio's puzzles far more interesting

>>715752368
>soihammer

>>715752274
$0.50 to play today, but around $100 to purchase it when it was new, which is on par with the cost of a modern game console for a single game - pong.
Factorio is approaching its 10th birthday as of next year.

still never forgiving the satisfactory devs for the bait-and-switch they did for egs exclusivity

>>715751827
Trains don't make sense for interstellar logistics though. Imo there needs to be other large power hungry structures. Maybe a gateway that can link two distant stars to cut travel time between them. I play with the more stars mod since vanilla only has what?64?

>>715728727 (OP)
Just fucking pirate it if you think it's not worth it.
Wait, but then, why are you wasting time playing it anyways? Look, if you just wanna save money that's fine, just stop being a faggot and say it.
In any case, play it, the game is great.

>>715752368
There is a skin for the engineer, but it would be cool if there was a total visual overhaul for every building

>>715752581
No way you could buy a whole ass arcade machine for just 100 bucks back then even considering inflation.

>>715752603
I forgot about that lol

>>715752792
meant the home console version, but even better.
price of an arcade cabinet for pong would also drop like a rock. at this point the only value in them is the materials it is made of.
interest in a product will naturally decline over time and as with lower demand, comes lower prices people are willing to pay.
factorio will not be worth $35 forever. demand inevitably caves.

>>715752375
>You're bitching others didn't choose to get poorer with you
Oh but they did, by ignoring this. It's not just me who got poorer. Nintendo's $90 pricetag fiasco rings a bell? That's why people are calling Wube's policy stupid. Because it hurts them first of all.

>>715753514
>i'm not a poorfag, i'm totally doing this out of concern for Wube
If you're worried about their future then maybe you should support them financially.

>>715752256
It really does make it TOO easy. So many production chains don't really have a solution to byproducts except just shred it through the awesome sink.

>>715752635
Trains as in mechanically, not literally. DSP doesn't really have a sort of high level logistics system that you can actually set up and engage with. The logistics stations are too OP and don't leave the game with any room for other mechanics.

>>715753514
>Because it hurts them first of all.
This was posted at the end of 2022, which I doubt has changed since.

>>715729706
Hence why your argument is worthless.

>>715754619
fuck you bloody bitch

>>715754326
You got that backwards. If you care about Wube at all you should realize that you're not helping them by defending their pants on head retarded practices. Me? I can always pirate.

>>715752256
Is Satisfactory still in EA?

>>715734864
embrace sushi

>>715754979
It had a 1.0 last year and had a 1.1 update recently.

>>715754873
Sorry, I can't be seen associating with peasants. I'll have one of my servants continue this argument for me.

>>715754619
Successful indies are doing multiple millions in the first week these days. Imagine if Wube wasn't retarded, what numbers they could pull. Kovarex is coping out of his ass in that post.

>>715755080
It's a niche genre, I'd say those numbers are pretty acceptable.

>>715755080
yeah im sure if they lowered the price to free almost every steam user would have it
unfortunately 0 * 130,000,000 = 0

>>715728727 (OP)
It has a demo. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
>>715754979
It had its 1.0 release back in September
>>715734587
>pic
I prefer the one from Mandalore's Total Warhammer 2 vid.
1/2

>>715734587
>>715755205
2/2

>poor Wube only made 70 million Euro!
>they should put up a sale so I c-... so they can make more money!

>>715755034
>>715755205
And yet still doesn't have a real end game? My issue with Satisfactory when I played it was how slow it was due to the shitty 1st person perspective.

>>715755473
>lack of end game
It's a problem with the genre as a whole. I don't really think that Factory games can have a proper end game without swerving into another genre. Ultra deadly final boss? Ludicrously difficult puzzle? Neither are good since the former would either require a dedicated base or to have the entire game built around the combat mechanics and upgrading defences, and the latter would only be solvable by like 1% of the turbo autists which would make the rest of them and all of the normies REE over not being able to finish it.
What would actually be a good end game for one of these that can satisfy both the turbo autists and the noobs trying out their first factory game?
>shitty 1st person perspective
That's one of the two big selling points of the game. The other is being able to stack your factories.

>>715756292
>That's one of the two big selling points of the game.
It's fundamentally antithetical to the genre so that's a pretty shitty selling point.
>The other is being able to stack your factories.
DSP allows you close enough to that.

>>715741826
I don't get the appeal of those games, but I sure as shit enjoy seeing other people's autism.

>>715756531
>It's fundamentally antithetical to the genre so that's a pretty shitty selling point.
And yet the game sold 5.5 MILLION copies as of January last year (they haven't announced sales numbers since then despite the 1.0 release), so it obviously has an audience.

>>715756750
Yes, people who aren't fans of the genre. There's a reason it gets shit on in basically every single Factorio thread while other non Factorio games don't.

If you want to be upset about skyrocketing prices, I'd be more upset about this one right here. I have the game already, I got it before the price surge, but I think that for a game from 2015 this is some dipshit thing to do. Same applies for the third installment.

>>715751551
>this game is not an entirely different game every time I play it; my zoomoid adhd niggerbrain can't stand it!

>>715729994
>patiencelet
>noooooo don't use thing they put in the game

>>715731548
>Actually building something is retardedly boring and annoying because the retarded devs actively decide to not implement proper QoL
I just got to oil refining in Satisfactory and completely bounced because of the building. Even with QoL mods installed, the game is fundamentally a pain in the fucking ass to actually build with. I decided to refactor my starter base to take advantage of Mk 2 miners and that was a mistake. The building is so goddamn tedious that it's just not worth touching a factory you've already built in that game. And what's the point of blueprints if they don't auto-connect with each other?
Shit got me so annoyed that I bounced to Factorio and had a breeze from Nauvis to Aquilo. The game didn't fight me at fucking all whenever I wanted to actually build something. God bless bots.

I'm waiting for a price hike before I buy.

>>715757345
Yeah the blueprinting system in Satisfactory is fucking dumb. I had this grand plan for like these smaller building like structures that I could paste down as I need but halfway through designing the building I thought to myself, "This is a lot of effort for a game that I can just put and belt anything anywhere and resources are infinite and I won't need this level of scalability" so i scrapped the idea and speghettied the rest of the game.

>>715757482
based
I'm waiting for the last day of civilization to buy the game at the highest price Wube is willing to offer because I want to support the dev

>>715730080
It's a perfect one actually. Factorio is worse than Minecraft mods and Minecraft mods are fucking free bro lol. Every one thing factorio does another game does it better too

>>715758615
Gregtech is the only minecraft mod worth a damn. The other ones are shit

>>715758713
Based Greg enjoyer

>>715758713
create is better.

How hard is it going to Gleba first? I've always done it as the second-to-last planet because setting everything up is such a huge pain in the ass, but it'd be nice to have belt stacking and biolabs early in the game.

>>715758615
No it's not in Minecraft mods typically has problems like:
>Can't expand horizontally as much as chunks are required to be rendered in order for things to
>Trains and railroads are severely outclassed and run the problems with chunks
>AE2 or any digital logistics severely outclass any form of physical logistics
>Being more resource intensive as a game also reinforces the last two problems and how progression typically will require less stuff moving around
Meanwhile Factorio is much more optimized and does a lot better job in balancing different types of logistics with belts, trains and bots.
>>715758713
>>715758961
Both Create and Greg are great. Or I should say they're bothGreate

>>715758986
Vulcanus, Fulgora and Gleba are all able to be done as the first planet.

>>715758615
>minecraft mods are free
so are factorio mods, you don't need to buy the game to play them

>>715758986
gleba probably is the hardest to go to first but that doesn't make it the least useful to go to, it has plenty of great upgrades that'll make things easier

>>715730275
not entirely incorrect

>>715740421
i bet you still use a main bus

>>715744726
My favorite gaming economy is the original Fable.
“Good morning, trader. I see you have a hundred barrels of cider. That must mean they are cheap today.”
“What ho, Hero, that’s right. Here you go, all of them sold at a bulk discount price.”
“Thank you, kind trader. But now I see you have no cider, that’s no good is it? I have a hundred barrels I can sell you here, but since you are desperate, I’m sure you can understand I must sell at a premium.”
“Tis fair, good Hero, I’ll buy them all at a premium!”
“Good day, literally the same trader, I see you have many barrels of cider, I’m sure you must be willing to sell them at a discount…”

>>715734714
>dlc
I pirated the main game and bought it because it was good. I tried to do the same with the DLC but it sucked, so I didn't buy it.

>>715728727 (OP)
It's VERY good at filling it's niche.

>>715762342
i quite liked buying up all the shops one by one

>>715733393
Try some of the mods. There's plenty to go around.

>>715728727 (OP)
>thing i own went up in price
i feel richer already

>>715758986
Not hard at all if you bother to clear nests before they become a problem. Once you get missile turrets stompers aren't an issue. The other planets rewards are nice but not essential on Gleba at all. Plus the biolab more than doubles your science production across the board and stack inserters are stupidly powerful.

>>715731159
I, for one, can't stand the fact that I have to play as a goofy fat chick. Game's vibe is basically Bob the Builder for lesbians

Play captain of industry

>>715741826
That is some glorious spaghetti. And I like that zigzag belt thing you're doing to load both sides in only a 2 tile wide gap so much I might just steal it. Also, what mod is that? I can't make out a lot of the things because of the compression.

>>715728727 (OP)
I refuse to buy it because no sale

>>715748448
What's the strongest possible wriggler that can spawn from spoiled pentapod eggs? I got mine on a circular belt to combat some sort of unforseen jank it may have in the future in regards to picking eggs back up (even with the intake inserter downstream of the output), and I'm wondering how many tesla turrets I actually need in the area.

>>715728727 (OP)
gleba was fun and I'm sick of pretending otherwise

>>715763810
I think they always spawn as the big variants.

>>715728727 (OP)
I prefer Satisfactory because it both makes use of my PC hardware and is a decently complex enough game. It's more streamlined and probably more casualized, but still got enough to do in it.

>>715735497
>knowing ape and how he worked on stardew valley he works for weeks on something and then just scraps it because he hates it in the end.
You mean he works on something for a week then adds it into the game and it feels like incomplete fucking garbage. The combat is fucking trash. The fishing is trash. The farming, which is what the fucking game was originally about, is somehow also trash. It's got that indie trash vibe going where it tries to do everything and has no depth.

>>715764393
>because it both makes use of my PC hardware
The fuck kind of excuse is this? Do you never use your calculator program because it doesn't max out your machine?

>>715758986
My brothers and I did Gleba first. We ended up losing our spaceship and basically had to start over on that planet. We didn't have shit set up for building another spaceship back on Nauvis either.

>>715765389
Not even bots?

>>715765710
There were bots back home. I think there was a tank that had a roboport or something retarded that I used to build a proper robot network. It took a couple days but I got shit set up to start building another spaceship on Nauvis since you get fucked by asteroids if you try to launch one from gleba.

>>715764393
its definitely not more streamlined. Its just casual jank with reddit flavoring

>>715734414
satisfactory is "ok" but it is by far the more tedious game. you are stuck in a first person perspective and have huge fucking buildings obstructing your view 90% of the time. before getting electric jetpack its miserable. also the resources are "limited" so no megabase for you. lmfao 6k SAM for the entire world. what the fuck are you going to do with that little.

also blueprint square cant even accommodate the quantum building. too big. what a fuckin joke. its so limiting. the trains are cool, theres nice pipe kino. then you realize drones are op as hell. 7/10

>>715728727 (OP)
>what's so special about this game
It's a dopamine bombardment. U trick your brain that u achieved something but in reality u clicked pixels on screen. In b4 dude that's every vidya ever. Correct however factorio takes it to another level. Basically every couple minutes u unlock new tech. New tool, new weapon to have fun with. Eventually u launch fucking nukes for shits and giggles.

The game is also friendly for most gamers. Autist can minmax or do wacky stuff. Normal dude can just make usual spaghetti, launch rocket after 30h+ and shelf the game while casual can just copy paste blueprints and grind them out at pace he is able to.

Incredible replayability with tons of mods and settings is a cherry on top.

>>715766027
so... its a good game?

>>715766027
yeah mods make factorio the absolute superior automation game. pyanodons alone makes it worth getting. skip the dlc

it's
a
good
game

>>715758986
The only reason to not visit it first are the aliens. They are a bitch to defend against if you don't have tesla turrets.

>>715766027
Except it gives such wonderful seratonin, too. Taking a breather every now and then to zoom out and watch your factory do its thing gives such a wonderful feeling. There aren't many games out there where you can just putter around and take your time accomplishing long-term goals, and certainly not many as good as Factorio (that I've found).
And then that little thought comes wafting into your brain, "Hey, I could improve this if I...", and you're back into the problem solving. Fuckin' love it. Worth every penny.
(Especially that $0.01 that brings the price to an even $35.00, lmao, I cannot view any .99 price any more without seeing the absolute absurdity of it.)

Are there any good space age overhaul mods yet?

>>715767002
there was one that was "updated" to work with it, no idea if it's good or not

>>715767002
seablock is partially done

>>715767002
I've recently started a run of Krastorio 2 Spaced Out + that mod that puts all of the xeno resources on Nauvis. I'm looking to make a single giant train base that processes all of the Krastorio materials and stuff like Tungsten and Holmium. I haven't gotten very far in it but I'm enjoying it so far

>Having fun
>Get to trains/liquids
>Get bored and quit
Anyone else?

>>715767870
but that's where the fun begins!

>>715728727 (OP)
it's the ONE TRICK woke game devs HATE
making an actual good game

>>715728727 (OP)
>What's so special about this game that the dev can justify multiple markups over the years as well as never discounting it?
Currency gets diluted in value due to faggot government money printing, so to get the same value companies have to raise their sticker prices.

>>715765887
You CAN build a new ship from that planet you just have to be quick in sending turrets, bullets and repair kits. And have a decent design to start with so it can get to be self sufficent fast.

>>715768480
Repair kits are really the main thing. If you're stationary in orbit, then the medium asteroids will only ever do chip damage

>>715768480
>And have a decent design to start with so it can get to be self sufficent fast
Here's the first ship that we used. As you can see it has a hard time dealing with asteroids.

>>715728727 (OP)
>get to blue science
>immediately lose interest

>>715768802
>Lasers
oh honey. Hate to say it but you can't use Lasers against asteroids. You NEED to automate yellow ammo production on the platform.

>>715756894
>There's a reason it gets shit on in basically every single Factorio thread while other non Factorio games don't.
Yeah, because Factorio fanboys hate it for being superior. Factorio is second best (it is quite good and was the best before Satisfactory), so they don't care about all the others that are not as good as it, but Satisfactory being better really sets them off. If they were actual factory automation fans they'd just enjoy both games, but a fanboy is a brand loyalist and can't try anything new.

>>715768991
Satisfactory pipes and how buggy they are alone make me not want to play it as much

>>715768982
Yeah we figured that out when one started shooting and the power went out. Kept going though, and we lost the collectors right away and we barely limped to the planet. I wasn't aware of the retarded space physics, but when we got to the half way part we just coasted into the planet and deconstructed everything we could and dropped down.
This one was the second spaceship. It didn't have any issues making it to Gleba and back.

>>715728727 (OP)
If i made a couple million off my video game i'd INCREASE the price. Outside of Factorio most games lose all their sales after 6 months or so. Increasing or decreasing the price is fundamentally irrelevant because you've already made the majority of your sales. I'd increase the price because that would make me look hard as fuck and everyone would be like "that guys fucks, no one does this" and if you didn't buy it day 1 you should pay more because you didn't believe in me dad

>>715768991
>Satisfactory being better
It's not though? You can make nicer looking factories but that's about it. The logistical challenges are weaker, there's no pressure from the game to do better other than the AI talking to you about efficency, the blueprint system sucks, it lacks circuit and logic gates (But honestly the logistics are so simple it rarely needs it), Trains can't really do more than just back and forth, the research system in Factorio is more well done and the one in Satisfactory can't really be automated in the same way.

It's just simpler overall. The most fun I had in that game was figuring out the Aluminum processing and trying to keep that going. Then you can unlock simpler methods to make Aluminum so it's kind of fucking pointless.

>>715768991
Get better bait.

I FUCKING LOVE LOOKING AT ANONS SPACESHIPS POST MORE SPACESHIPS FOR ME TO LOOK AT

>>715771064
k

>>715771319
v nice

>>715771064
it was too long to fit in a single image

>>715771521
too skinny
>>715771645
endgame as fuck

OH N-

ignore the unfinished walls, this was actually back when walls were bugged and would make asteroids break more shit than without them

>>715771919
rip

>>715733393
Generate a map that actually challenges you

>>715735161
I mean they seem to be at a sweet spot so if it works, it works.

>>715756943
I still can't believe they got away with selling the same game twice lmao

>>715758986
Doable but having artillery or tesla turrets makes it a lot easier to deal with spiders.

>>715751743
You can easily belt nutrients around your base considering the 5 minute spoil time. Your base isn't going to be big enough for it to spoil before it gets to whatever the final machine is. There's no real downside as long as you're not overproducing a stupid amount of nutrients. It's not like mash and jelly where the remaining spoil time matters.

>>715729706
welp, thats the lowest iq post of the year so far.

Goddamnit fucking game got me again. I should have gone to sleep like two hours ago. I just had to make sure my jank legendary plastic shit was working

>>715752603
I got it for free after that in the Ukraine bundle.
Still prefer Factorio, obviously.

>>715752171
Food, clothing, electricity, etc. need to be continually produced anew under new economic circumstances. Video games don't. They are finished and that's that. If they made a new game and sold it at a higher price point, i wouldn't mind.

>>715729937
Hold your horses son. A new contender has come into town. Im playing that cap'n of industry now and forgetting all about that lame factorio.

Fact o matter I used to have the belt repair man cheap version but lost is. No way in hell im paying 32 eurobuckaroos

So come on down to the cap'ns island and we'll build some real mans stuff.

Jokes aside its giving me that factorio 2.0 feel. Actually think the FACKtorio is abit childish now

>>715775742
Yes you can easily make a bad gleba base. The question wasn't about that, it was how to gitgud at gleba

>>715734178
Doing this right now. 90 hours in and the early game struggle is behind. Have not dipped into 600% Gleba yet.

>>715779148
Hot tip: Don't reveal Gleba until you're ready to defend Gleba. Time evolution is a bitch.

>>715733393
I had a fantasy of making an alternate playthrough which just had a handful of alternate planets and some different recipes but then i remembered i can't code and it seemed like a pain in the arse. Anyway here's a model i made that would function like biochamber on my fantasy planet

>paying $50 for an excellent game made by a small dev team with true passion, care and artistry is a scam and horrible
>paying a massive corporation $100+ for a base version of a game WITH microtransactions that ruined the core gameplay and appeal along with more paid DLC is totally fine though
/v/ truly is the worst board

>>715767870
That's the best part

>>715781516
Wow what a compelling strawman I'm transferring my life savings to wube right now!

>>715781667
>strawman
What? /v/ cries about Factorio, as in this very thread, constantly, despite it actually being worth a damn, but has no issues when Crapcum pull something bullshit

>>715734864
Burn anything that you don't need immediately
Use Tesla turrets to zap stompers
Quality Tesla turrets can solo the largest stompers since lightning jumps between their legs like 20x

>>715781697
>but has no issues when Crapcum pull something bullshit
Wow what a compelling lie I'm transferring my life savings to wube right now!

>>715782873
>lie
This is just getting sad
/v/fags literally defend Crapcums horrible schemes with the "skill issue" meme, as if I'm the crazy one for not wanting to pay them for an incomplete game WITH microtransactions AND in game advertising

>>715783103
Wow a strawman AND a fat lie! How generous! Wube sure deserves all my earthly possessions now!

>it's a lie to say crapcum are scummy
Trolling used to be believable

>big brain engineering game fans are functionally illiterate
pottery

>>715728727 (OP)
>got the Factorio for free because I'm in Steam Family with a friend that boughted them years ago

>>715783103
>Crapcum crapcum crapcum
No one listens to 12 year olds, dude.

>>715767870
I burned out after Gleba. Need to go back some day to check out the winter planet and actually finish the game.

>>715728727 (OP)
After Dark souls more specifically dark souls 3 a lot of people tried to recreate the formula and a new genre Souls-like was born. But non From software games can't scratch that itch as the real deal. Factorio created an entire new genre, and nothing comes even close Dyson sphere and Satisfactory are the only ones trying to recreate a fraction of what you can do in Factorio. The rest doesn't even try. If you want the Factorio experience you MUST buy factorio, they know they have a captive audience or rather an addicted one.
Factorio is Crack for autists and that's it.