They're making fun of us again. The liveletter will fix it.
>>715760816 (OP)its honestly funny how much yoshi p shilled out for the wow refugees only for them all to abandon the game after endwalker
>housing mogged entirely
>doesn't even need a sub to keep
>>715760816 (OP)>7.3 is delayed to fix cultural concerns regarding the new dungeon armor>forced to upgrade to W11 if you want to keep playing the game>8.0 not until summer 2027I'm thinking it's over yoshitsisters...
>>715761069>>forced to upgrade to W11 if you want to keep playing the gameSource?
>>715760816 (OP)What was the context of this image anyway?
>>715761680https://gamerant.com/final-fantasy-14-windows-10-support-end-date/
Surprisingly this one isn't a shitpost.
>>715761729Don't remember.
Either the stream didn't work or a foreigner asked a stupid question again.
>>715761729He had to delay Endwalker's launch by two weeks at the last minute. He was crying in the liveletter like a bitch.
>>715761069>7.3 is delayed to fix cultural concerns regarding the new dungeon armorAh yes, the same cultural concerns that resulted in Tural feeling like Disneyland rather than a real place and some of the worst voice acting in the entire game
damn these people are actually insane
>>715763302Tural was the most boring fucking worldbuilding they EVER did. No wonder they just abandoned it in favor of Solution 9/Alexandria since they didn't need eight fucking sensitivity readers to proofread their work and it's not like Tural had ANY lingering plot threads because of how boring and sanitized everything was.
>>715760816 (OP)someone had to do it
>>715763491Dim dam tale lam vacarme~
>>715763443Which is to show that you should either
>1 Fire the consultants, and do what Genshin did, using whatever the fuck you want from LATAM>or 2 Don't bother with real life at all, and just make everything a fantasy blend with no real concrete inspiration.
>>715763554I like how the first warning sign I saw in the expansion happened literally on the boat before we ever arrived at the contentent
Where that one Mamool Ja says that every single Mamool Ja that leaves Tural speaks perfect Eorzean they just adopt a thick accent as a joke even though that's not how it works in real life with real human beans
I didn't think much of it at the time besides "That's really stupid" but it actually set the expansion's tone for how it was going to portray Tural as a nation with all the corners filed off. Aside from the dead baby cave, I guess...
how the fuck did we go to the worldbuiling of ishgard, an oppresive theocracy embroiled in a thousand year blood war, to fucking tural, something out of a shitty straight to dvd disney sequel
>>715760890He got what he wanted out of them which was a shitload of money.
Bizarre obsession with a Japanese Salaryman
I love hermes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gay4wtPZY-0
>>715763827They're called consultants
"Oh, you have a race that values mercantilism above all other concerns? You'd BETTER make sure they're culturally incapable of cheating someone. Here, include a sidequest where a Lalafel cheats one of them and have them struggle to understand that they got cheated"
"One Mamool laments that he's too nice to refuse the Mezcal the Pelupelu offer him during negotiations and he makes shitty deals because he gets hammered?"
"You'd BETTER make it clear that the Pelupelu had no nefarious intent and they'll learn their lesson to not offer copious amounts of alcohol during negotiations."
Is there some data I'm not privy to where it shows pissing off a bunch of people on Twitter because your literal nonhuman fantasy cultures don't adhere to the popular idea of extinct real life cultures? Because it feels like SE paid money to grifters to make their game worse
>>715765626Hermes getting pissed off that a bunch of rabid animals that killed for fun and could cast fire magic were put down was a very weird choice
I feel like they could have done that better. Maybe have something more...passively destructive getting killed. Like something that COULD have a niche but the Ancients didn't give enough of a shit to find it rather than a bunch of literal monsters
>>715763302This is such a hilariously easy way to get gamedevs to never set anything in South America again. It's like the poster child for why AAA games are always set in some boring americanized version of every setting. It's so short-sighted. On the other hand, maybe this sort of person actually likes that sort of game.
>>715765720not sure if youre trolling but he explicitly says he thinks the society that celebrates his superior roping himself after resigning is weird to him
also some other stuff about turning butterflies into clothes just after giving life to them
and his coworker dismissing him as some weirdo when he says to give a chance to the flying thing instead of immediately sending it to the glue factory when it cant fly on the first try
>>715765946>not sure if youre trollingNo, it's just been too long and I've forgotten stuff.
I did remember he got upset at the suicides but that doesn't stick out like the fire dograptors getting killed for being absurdly dangerous.
>>715765639Yes, that is how grifting works. It is, in fact, how capitalism works - it's a system which cannot sustain itself unless it constantly finds new gifts, which have the double purpose of generating more economic activity and setting back the quality of products so that even more economic activity is needed to fix them.
>>715765720Hermes was already having a breakdown because the former Fandaniel decided to kill himself. And the pitbull thing was more about how someone went and made a half-assed pitbull with the idea in mind that if it wasn't perfect then he could just kill it. Its creator had a disregard for both life and death.
>>715766069your whole life is capitalism lil boy
To be as successful as Yoshi you need to cast away religion, he isn't Shintoist nor Chirstian either, like most of the industry selling your soul to the devil is vital.
>>715760816 (OP)Nomura is a hack
>>715766089>Its creator had a disregard for both life and deathI remember at the time with america having some issue with abortion or some shit, the expansion came and told a story about a people with disregard for creating life
somehow endwalker really hit people emotionally with all the despair with covid and other general shit that happens.
>>715766173I feel like Yoshida's story isn't exactly that cutthroat.
IIRC he was friends with some of the devs namely Takai and Minagawa? He was talking to them about how 1.0 was a disaster and they started thinking of ideas on how to solve it. They presented two options to the board which was basically coast and eventually sunset or revamp the game while providing updates. The board went with option 2 and ARR was born.
He went from relative nobody to schizo magnet over a gamble
Do they really call him 10 yen
>>715765721VOLUMES
desu most of my wow friends don't really care about that shit but I'm sure the casuals and hags are hyped for the housing slop
BANE
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what do you think his favorite nolankino is?
>>715768748Dark Knight Rises
>>715763697I missed the Mamool Ja that says that. Never even thought about it but yeah thatโs dumb.
>>715766139And my whole life is a grift.
>>715768914I think you're required to speak to him, but disregarding the story has become more...forgivable for me in the past year
>>715763827Because that was all background lore set with 1.0. Even Ala Mhigo too. Tural didnโt have anything written about it besides thatโs where Blue Mages are from and trade introduced produce to Eorzea.
This is gonna be nitpicky but I think it all started the moment they decided to introduce that the world has 13 copies in 3.1. That set the seed for future shard shenanigans and took focus away from the main planet (and also devolves into FF member berries).
Like if the shards stuff wasnโt a thing, would could still have a hidden civilization in the region like Solution 9 that never got hit by a calamity.
>>715762939There is 0 chance they delay the patch for some armor in a dungeon. Not with how unhappy the use base is with current content.
What, exactly, has this particular batch of retards upset anyways?
>After 7.0, I was feeling very positive and hopeful.
>>715769351Retards saw a vague spanish flavored armor set in an expansion they've jerked off as Da Natives. This leads to a jump to them thinking it's a Conquistador set, and that's bad because muh colonization.
Ignore the fact that none of the armor sets are anything close to Conquistador armor.
>>715769392How can you tell me after a year ago when I heard and saw in person the plans for the future of the game when I left that media tour optimistic about the future of the game (In spite of my ex fiance using this as an opportunity to once again crush my heart/soul the night before the actual event lol). I literally got no sleep that night and spent the night/morning crying in the hotel room before I went downstairs for the bus with the rest of the media tour group.
Actually fuck it no one will read this deep. That media tour left me so optimistic it helped me with the mental beatings and outright abuse my ex fiance did to me.
You know that bitch, Brendan, drove all the way from the townhouse filled with tens of thousands of dollars of my property he's stolen from me to this day all the way to L.A. and hunted me down like I was a fucking animal? And then when I flew back to Canada between airports he lashed out at me again and caused me in an airport to break down crying? After THAT BITCH hunted me down like I was some kind of animal.
Yeah FFXIV and the optimism for FFXIV I had from that media tour helped me push forward. That's how optimistic I was.
And for anyone who hasn't been cheated on, had tens of thousands of dollars of property, had their work auth in the USA lost and them sent back to Canada unable to move to San Diego after landing a 220k/year job and needing to decline that cause "lul work auth", and then experienced mental abuse from their ex fiance tormenting them with the most VICIOUS shit ever-- THAT IS A FUCK TON OF OPTIMISM. And I wouldn't wish the absolute BARRAGE of brutality I experienced on anyone else.
I only say that PURELY to showcase how optimistic I Was about FFXIV after the media tour. AKA: VERY VERY VERY MUCH.
So how the fuck are we a year later talking about development costs? How the fuck? What the fuck? That's my genuine reaction.
>>715769540The funniest part is that it's actually the Brazilian honor guard uniform.
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>>715769598Cool sets tho. Most of it will be FRU BIS too for a while.
>>715769670Fending/maiming kinda reminds me of After Years Edward which is nice. I like the casting/healing designs but it doesn't really fit my character (nice Peruvian conquistator ponchos there by the way)
>>715769670God I wish healers could get a cool armor once in this game
>>715769913uhh your WHM robes?
>>715769670Still waiting for a hero to make a mod that chops off every asscape. Any day now.
When Yoshida said DT will have the most content and rewards of any expansion, I knew that was the biggest red flag. Everything in DT so far has felt hollow and half-assed.
>>715760816 (OP)blue protocol star resonance cbt en 27 july
>>715768748inception is so overrated
Interstellar and tenent are kino
dark knight is ok
>>715760890Wow refugees don't actually exist
A vast majority of wow players who tried the game never got past the first few hours
>>715770708ok chang keep us posted about the re-release of an already dead and flopped game.
>>715770862died on japan
now cn have it, changed the game a lot
>>715770708>Closed Beta TestCool, tell me when there's a beta test I can actually play.
Also, the fact it's a phone MMO kills most of my interest in it.
>>715770926such as? Will be shit anyway, or worse some mobile genshin shit.
Seems OP is upset that that WoW vs. XIV thread on the 'log isn't overtly negative to either game, already spotted one or two folder dumper MD5s there
>>715771197>i browse WoW threadsThanks, keeping this one on hand.
>>715760816 (OP)What can they do for a massive turnabout in the next expansion, though? Where is the story even going?
>>715761680>>715762058Nothing burger, game will still work on W10, they just say they won't provide official support for it.
This is also not a guarantee they won't offer support, they fixed some stuff that broke Steam Deck/Linux compatibility once and Linux isn't officially supported in any way.
>>715770926>died on japansaars.... please do the needful and spellcheck shill posts
>>715771129classes, story, npcs, movement, gameplay
everything, just reused assets
it has gacha for skins
i mean just try when it releases
better than being sad and mad about wow and ffxiv all the time
>>715771015its called closed because you need to suscribe on their page
>>715771473Will it have loli's? I won't spend money if I can't put cunny in cute outfits.
>>715765721Do wowfags really care about the sims mechanics or it's just to piss off XIV trannies
>>715771297aaa yes, if you want people to stop filling themselves with hate
and instead try other games, you are indian and a shill
>>715771504it does
reverted all the censoring and black forced inclusion amazon was forcing on the japs
>>715771597Okay now I'll pay attention. Is it on steam or something?
Are they making another FF MMO?
or it's just over
>>715771583WoW types have been begging for "real" housing for a decade or more (closer to two), the last attempt at it was garrisons. FWIW that thread is actually relatively civil, shitposty nature and some obvious trancer activity aside.
>>715771504>>715771597>>715771632>mobile phonesIt's DOA. No amount of change coping/shilling will change that. (XIV also sucks tranny dicks now too)
>>715771710>nihilism: the post
>>715771758Name one successful MMO that's available on mobile phones. You won't because you can't, chang.
>>715771837black desert is still kicking
ffxiv mobile has a lot of players just for being f2p
>>715760816 (OP)She WON
Deny
Dismiss
Downplay
>>715763697Yeah I think it's a product of this American diaspora blelief where portraying foreigners with a thick accent is racist or something Apu and Long Duk Dong from Sixteen Candles are other examples
>>715771960all of those are appropriate terms to apply to vtubers
>>715771252>8.0Fourth
>9.0Eighth
>10.0Eleventh
>11.0Cramming in the rest of the Source
>12.0Finale
Fill in the finer details however you want.
>>715771837aa right forgot
EVE
Albion online
>>715772075I don't paly vtubers, chud.
>>715772120>EVEMobile EVE isn't EVE, anon. It's dead p2w kusoge.
what title/glamour is a true indication of a good and/or dedicated player
mounts don't count as they can't be seen in cities
>>715772384the only titles i respect are ones given at job level milestones
if your title is <The Azure Dragoon> i know you're good, simple as
>>715772384princess for a day
>>7157723841.0 preorder bonus onion knight helm
>>715772235dunno
those are the ones ive seen people play
i personally only play pc
>>715772384Field Commander's Coat
>>715772539Shit's only worth 15$ on ebay lol
>>715772550Unlike EVE echoes mobile Albion is just cross-platform port of real Albion.
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>>715760816 (OP)even the normies are shitting on xiv...what went wrong squaresisters?!
>>715772669>just cross-platform portthats the way new mmos are being made
>>715772384Something that uniquely fits their character and isn't just set for e-peen.
I still like the game. I don't care for the current story but I didn't care much for ARR's story either until later expansions gave better context.
>>715772812That clip is the funniest shit
>Final Fantasy 14 players love to be like "oh it's the hardest game of all time," then you watch someone do a raid and the boss goes "heh...heh...heh...heh..." and then a big line appears on the ground and 30 seconds later the line gets engulfed in fire. And then they're like "see the thing is you can't stand on the line when the fire comes out or you'll die"
>>715773331TRUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>715760890WoW is exclusively played by millennials that want to relive their glory days tweaking on adderall and raiding for 2 days straight. Most of them don't even know there's an FF MMO.
>>715772083Wouldn't 14.0 being the final expansion be kinda poetic?
>>715772083>>715774642They recently said in an interview they only have three more planned. 10.0 is the end.
the housing shortage would disappear if you let people go into the same inn room
>DT is already 1 year old
>>715773331bald egg is prety based
fuck mmo ninjas
>>715775592Now that's what I call GRIM
>>715775592>Dawntrail is halfway over
>>715775892>he doesn't know
>>715775892Have they said anything about a date for the new expac? Wouldn't surprise me if it's more than 2 years dev time
>>715776084They haven't announced fanfest yet, which is unusual. Maybe next week at the live letter, but if not then yeah it's gonna be a long expansion.
>>715775021I was typing up a reply until you jumpscared me with this. So it's probably going to be
>8.0Source + Fourth
>9.0Source + Eighth
>10.0Source + Eleventh + Finale
? That's incredibly dire.
>>715771252It's going to be another middling not that relevant expac probably. They're going to try and build up to something big like EW again but it'll take at least another 2-3 expacs to do that.
I think it's kind of dumb but I'll only complain if the story is shit (which DT mostly was).
>>715775021Bullshit.
They said they've planned ahead until 10.0.
That doesn't mean it ends afterwards.
>>715775892>it's been a year since DT released>still another year and a half at LEAST until 8.0
>>715776691And 8.0's story will probably also suck.
>>715776801Don't worry, they're pulling Nomura in for this one.
>>715771837OSRS, the most popular PC MMO right now
>>715776691>he thinks 8.0 will come outhoney they didn't even annouce fanfest this year
>>715760816 (OP)>me and my friends haven't touched the game since 6.0>one of them actually bought Dawntrail but didn't even start it>FC house got demolished oh well
>Dawntrail is officially at 25% positive on Steam
So when are Kate and Hiroi getting fired?
>>715773331>look up the clip on youtube>not five minutes ago someone is malding in the commentsnice
>>715778157yoshitpiss my diiiiick
>>715763302Shit like this is EXACTLY why Tural was the most generic DUDE TACOS kind of place
>no variant dungeons yet
>Ultimate delayed to 5.5
>no fanfest announcements
Post your reaction when they inevitably announce DT is going to have four tiers
>>715760890wow is a streamer game, wow refugees are just retards who will follow whatever their streamer is shilling at the time, it's literally happening with osrs right now, all these wow players will abandon ship for whatever their streamers start to shill next.
>>715763443I like Tural aesthetically but in terms of actually being there/as a 'personality' yeah it was severely lacking. I guess it'll be back to generic fantasy city A for every future expac again.
turn to the left to the right
aint no end in sight
>>715779315Come find something special
Something unexpected
Up here on top of the world tonight
No, you won't regret it
So forget your worries
Go on and lose your mind
>>715763302Love seeing born again roasties, chicanos and SJWs self-own themselves like this, lmao.
Gimme Shadowbringers in the free trial already nigga
>>715779721Oh my science those poor indigenous folx have internalized the colonialism...
>>715760816 (OP) >OH HI IM PRAYING NINTENDO SWITCHERU 2 DIDDI KONG BONANZA YOU SHOURD STOP COMPRAIN AND PRAY OTHER GAMES>>715763491>Im to ord for this shiet i miss my wow praying days...
>>715763302you just know this is a white person being upset for everyone else again
>>715769318We didnโt even get cool blue mage stuff
>>715772384<Jack of All Cards>
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What kind of fat cuck wastes his whole life grinding every job in a dead nip mmo? Maining bitch healer, no less. K E K
>>715781307CANT WAIT BLUE MAGE 2 NEW LIMITED JOB LVL 50 MAX
>>715781406You posted this in the last thread why are you doing it again
>>715781434Ah fuck thatโs a good point what are they actually gonna do? Surely they canโt do the same thing with BLU and just have it lag every expansionโฆ except itโs lagging five expansions.
Just make it pokemon with the games various monsters, itโs so easy and everyone will cream their jeans over it. People will enjoy collecting enemies even if they all just do one animation attack per monster.
>>715771252I think that Hiroi is never touching the MSQ again, and whoever they give the reigns to now shows that they are already way more competent. There are also a bunch of slow moving story pieces that has been introduced post-EW that they can now start playing with for a more interesting story beat.
There are already hints of something more. It is pretty obvious that the Alexandrians and Preservation were way out of their depths. There is an outsider influence that not even the Ascians had a check on, and they probably tie into the fate of the WoL (in an ironic manner since we are literally the reincarnation of one of their shitty familiars lmao).
>>715781406cuckoli is a known /xivg/ lolcow and diaperfag
>>715781583Maybe they'll start it at level 70 instead, but yeah I'm positive it's going to lag behind just like BLU.
However, do you think they're going to manage updates for both limited jobs every expansion from now on? I don't think so.
>>715772384Necromancer on any chatacter that doesn't have a caster or phys ranged unlocked
Imagine still seething this hard about how your fanfiction wasn't validated six years ago
>>715765721Wow managed to make their spaghetti code work with housing system.
FF14 still struggling...
Damn i used to call blizzdevs incompetent but I guess I should take that back, they are stupid af but at least they've got some skills
>>715774642The 14.0 will be the ARR Classic expansion
I thought the housing problem in FF14 was a digital storage / DB issue? But then they gave everyone their own private instanced island.
At the very least they could just expand apartment visuals / functionality so people aren't fiending so much for housing plots.
>>715760816 (OP)>hourly threads seething endlessly about 14I see the schizo is still SEETHING that the devs are listening and course correcting from dawntrail
>xivkeks ITT are still subbed to kate's game
>in the year of our lord 2014+11
>>715782385the cop said xiv was fun
>banned from national television for begging for resubs
>about to get ding dong bannu from being alive
Yoshitpiss and his cultists ITT will fake cry again once their pet cancerkike kicks the bucket
>>715782643just give dawntrail for free trial forever and do a good expansion next time
XIV's development seems way too restrictive, it makes a lot of sense that they seem to never want to take risks and then proceed to constantly make all the dumbest decisions possible
>>715783123They could hire me for free and I'd fix the game in one patch. They're just fucking stupid.
Crazy how this guy will just bump the thread by posting 20 images when it was actually pretty slow to start
>>715760816 (OP)every ziv thread reminds me that I won by unsubscribing in 6.0
>>715760816 (OP)They should let Kate do a live letter.
>>715783435how to kill the jp playerbase
>>715760816 (OP)I have other MMOs to play now, Yoshida.
I want to have sex with lalafells
>>715770827wow refugee reporting in i came when WoD launched though, which has been 11 years ago
>>715775892>yfw Patch 7.6 Special Site Now Live
>>715784210>mfw they introduce Wuk's slightly dumber and more annoying cousin to show us the rest of Tural
>>715777454Nah even if they lose 80% of sub revenue it would still be better business to release the next expansion that's already in development. Businesses like this have a lot of inertia.
>>715772643do the codes for that even work anymore?
8.0 previews here, believe me or don't
>PLD
Cover now redirects all damage to the PLD with a 25% reduction AND guaranteed block
Clemency becomes AoE with a regen when cast under Divine Veil
>DRK
Blood Price is back
Blood Weapon now drains health 1:1 with damage dealt, Souleater gets replaced with Power Slash
New Souleater is a cooldown that drains 25% of health to increase all damage dealt
>DRG
Jump skills are now GCDs and can be used from long range
Gets a new shukuchi style jump for movement, no cooldown
They wasted the entire continent with shit zones. Could have had cool bloodthirsty aztec empire or something instead of disneyland.
>>715784328>the rest of turalso canada?
Lesson learned, everytime a game does a south america inspired expansion, I should skip it because it will be 100% shit.
>>715784550It was clear that Alexandria was the story that the japanese devs actually wanted to tell.
Tural just exists to pander to retards on Bluesky, but as always, it didn't work.
>>715781936tank is the easiest role to do potd on thoughbeit
>>715762058>>715771272what do they mean by support?
Wonder do you think op will kill himself when xiv closes down in like 20 years or will his mental ill have him attach to a different game?
>>715784745i think the contrary cause they cant keep that forever without players dropping it
why is so hard for them to shake the formula a bit for the MSQ? for example the two extra dungeons post-msq, include them in the MSQ and then add a "hard version" of them for the roulette.
>>715784745Pity they didn't dump the lightning dome off the coast of Thanalan or Vylbrand, have the assets only load for people after the EW msq.
>>715784725if its not colonizating pussies and genocide its not a good south america expansion
>>715784745Tural exists because it's been a part of the setting since ARR but the ethics department raped it because SE is an honorary westoid company.
Cutting lalafell hearts out and offering them to huktacaptulol
>>715773331can someone spoonfeed me the clip?
cba to look it up mysef
>>715769351It was just a retarded bluesky raid.
>>715784770It just means that if you have technical issues with your client, they can't assure you that they can give technical support with it because windows 10 will no longer be supported by Microsoft after that date.
It means nothing and it applies to every game that runs on W10 afaik, but Square is just trying to cover their bases by adding a notice ahead of time.
>>715769670I wasn't too into them at first, but now that I know they make bluesky troons mad, I might use these.
>>715785552gotcha, thanks anon
>>715785774You're welcome.
>>715781826Come on, you stretched their photo.
>>715769557where is this from?
>>715784745>Alexandria was the story that the japanese devs actually wanted to telli honestly think that is as bad as Tural. i hate hyper futuristic shit in this game when most of the military of the world is still using plate armor, swords and shit
>>715784725im not sure anyone genuinely thinks the setting was the issue
>>715786471Hyper futuristic shit in a medieval setting has always been a staple of FF since the beginning, so I feel like this viewpoint is a little strange.
>>715778157What's funny is that if Wuk Lamat was even just an okay character the sentiment around Dawntrail would be MUCH better.
One character literally tanked the expansion and possibly the game if they don't pull their heads out of their asses.
>>715760816 (OP)Endwalker flew so high. There was no reason to waste it all on metizo trannies.
>>715781406I dunno who that fag is but it's not an achievement to get max level. You can do it pretty quickly and easily.
They made her ugly and stupid then we had a tour of the dumbest cultures and a dumbest scooby doo saturday morning cartoon MSQ. Finally, we had a series of dungeons and trials that were obviously overtuned and haphazedly mixed in. A lot of the mechanics were way harder and gimmicky. Some of it seemed to be jigsawed in as if they were meant for other content but they needed to reach a deadline so shipped it.
Hate to be a doom poster but this expansion screamed incompetence.
>>715781730Now post that same character in-game.
It was kind of a minor controversy that in character creation and preview screens the characters look higher res than they actually do in-game.
>>715786908That's true but it's egregious with this Alexandrian shit.
>>715784518>PLD just fucking explodes when doing CoverBased. It was time to nerf cover.
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Final Boss prediction for 7.3.
>>715787816Necron
After they try to make us feel sorry for Calyx even though I think he's the shittiest villain they've ever had in the game personally
Still funny how FakeSphene and Calyx's big move to best the WoL and get the key was to... shock them with electricity.
>>715787996We haven't seen his big move yet, he's just trying things out
>>715787886That's not Necron, that's Wukron.
>>715788039It was dumb but it really was kinda funny how the WoL just tanked it and they were surprised.
>>715788141They didn't seem that surprised
>>715771252No idea. 8.0 might be set in Meracydia, if they're still following Hades' foreshadowing dialogue from EW. Calyx and Preservation might be related to the Ascian plot, but quickly became their own thing/cut ties with them. The interdimensional key is 99% something Azem created to find a solution to the Final Days, but it's unclear how it's supposed to work.
I feel like we're chasing the ghost of Azem at this point (their sun symbol was even hidden in Alzaadal's Legacy in EW). I wouldn't be surprised if we found more traces and clues left behind, until it's revealed they planned everything like some sort of Hari Seldon from Asimov's Foundations.
>>715787886>even though I think he's the shittiest villain they've ever had in the game personallywhy
>>715788216...the entire follow-up dialogue was about surviving.
Jesus I swear some of you autists argue just to argue.
>>715769557>That media tour left me so optimistic it helped me with the mental beatings and outright abuse my ex fiance did to me.Kek if anyone actually believed this they never played this game
>>715784550>Could have had cool bloodthirsty aztec empire or something instead of disneyland.They tried to do that with the cave full of dead babies (one of the few good parts of the expansion) and a few details hidden in tribal quests dialogues (a tour guide tells the story of the river in Kozama'uka, how it was born out of the discarded limbs of bird people killed by the bloodthirsty giants). It made the complete lack of grittiness in the rest of the expansion feel even worse.
>>715788594>>Could have had cool bloodthirsty aztec empireMexicans would have eaten that shit up. Hell they love caricatures like Speedy Gonzales.
I was gonna post go back to /vg/ but they don't even have a thread
>>715763302>portray things accuratelyFFXIV is based on real life?
>>715763302I looked at that thread and most of it is positive, it's just the odd retard crying about 'muh cul-chA!'
>>715763302Here's another guy saying he's South American and loves the set even calls out the 'white people' who say he should be offended by it.
>>715760816 (OP)Blizzard shows they can do pretty much whatever they want, and most players will still stay and pay. Pride parades, shitty characters, overpriced cash shop stuff.
>"would be a shame if that house you like so much was smashed huh?"People complain, but they still pay.
>>715789836>People complain, but they still pay.just like real life?
>>715760890Yoshi P does not care about ff14, he only cares that ff14 gives him sway over management to make the games he does care about. Once you understand that, everything else makes sense.
Oh never mind found the thread the Bluesky fairies are raiding on the Lodestone and they couldn't be more obvious they're raiding the official forums.
>1 post
Part 1 of 2.
fire kate and hiroi.
7.3 msq looking like the usual hiroi slop.
>faction named that doesnt matter
>boring ass shit
>wuk.gullool ja, alisaie, krile still there.
>more attacks on solution 9
just give the cum chalice to my wife already and send me to a gate to somewhere.
>>715790039bbBBBUUuuuuUUURRrrP
>>715790025Part 2 of 2.
If you look in on that thread you'll see a bunch of single posters bumping the thread.
>>715790025>>715790069I've honestly seen some of them suggest that the patch should be postponed until the armor has been "fixed"
>>715790150It gets more retarded the more I read, I think I'll post a few and then I'm done these people are like mental cancer reading their posts is giving me eye cancer.
>>715790150or to use placeholder reused armor instead
they're trolls
More retards crying about the latest set.
So this is how it looks like they'll try to get their way, they'll coordinate on Bluesky and make raids on the official forums for something they like or don't like.
>>715781776Always found this to be the dumbest decision. Why would you make the less accessible version instead of the more accessible version first? That would be like releasing an ultimate fight at launch but there's no msq at all.
thread link so I can bump it as well with some random excuse like
>I did it for the (You)s on 4chan
>>715790201>>715790258>1 post>1 post>2 posts>2 postsOooOOooOOO I AM NOOTICING
Last cap I'll be posted here is the thread if people want to look at it
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/520347-The-7.3-Armour-preview-is-offensive/page9
>>715790258Does CS3 give a single care about the English forums? I'm pretty sure they just host them so EN players have a void to scream into.
>>715790385They changed the Brown people curly hair because of the backlash on the forums and they changed it almost instantly.
Ok I know I said I wouldn't post anymore forum caps but this is my last one, promise I had to post this one because this tard is talking about appealing to the 'cultural sensitivity consultants' he wants more DEI and ethics consultants on the game.
have i ever told u the definition of insanity
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/fire%20kate%20hiroi/
>>715790486Fire Kate fire Hiroi, ban all Bluesky posters from FFXIV.
>>715772384Mahjong Master
>>715787225the story being mediocre just highlights all the real problems with the game, like stale, boring uninspired content or the simplification of every job in the game for an audience that doesnt exist
>>715790308why is it all sub-20 poster accounts
>>715790825It's a Bluesky organised raid.
But even the Japs know it's a raid and saying to dismiss it.
>>715790308You know it's a nothingburger when even the FFXIV subreddit, which is as sensitive as XIV players can be and promoted troon and gay shit on the regular and banned twitter links in favor of bluesky links is scoffing at this shit and ridiculing the people being outraged about it.
We need to do something to show Square how inorganic this shit is before they actually feel they have to change it.
This is just that Korean shitfag and his lackeys trying to see how far they can go to twist Square's arm, and how quickly. Nothing else. They want to see how much power they can exercise over Square with these fake raids because that's ultimately what it's all about.
calyx feels like a bit of an ass pull
I guess they needed a new Asahi to appease JP players hatred of dawntrail
I bet those Blusky raiders are people SE hired to cause a fake controversy because controversy brings attention and that would trick people into thinking that games is still thriving
>>715790665Fire Kate but Hiroi also needs to cut a finger off before he resigns in shame.
>>715763697What super annoys me is you had the perfect excuse of the WoL hearing โenglishโ via the Echo, then the rest of the Scions having taught themselves the language of Tural on the way over. There you go, perfect reason why youโre hearing flawless โenglishโ. Instead they did โmerely pretending to be retardedโ forโฆ no real reason.
>>715791179Isn't that what every company desires? A bunch of half-wits screaming that their game is racist.
>>715791481true it'll attract SJW to defend people from le racism and racists into being tricked that game is based.
>>715791605I think you spend too much time on 4chan, me laddy.
>>715786908it was still stylized. In dawntrail they're all walking around with fucking hotpants and tracksuits
>>715791179I would give this some credence except they did the same thing with the POC hair from the fan contest a few months ago. All because it was hair supposed to be for 'Brown' people.
I think it's terminally online troon types who fester on Bluesky looking for things to be offended by.
>>715791694So it's not the futuristic stuff that's the problem, but the style.
Yeah, I can understand that. I didn't like FF15 either because of that dumbass boyband aesthetic
>>715792586I think the FF15 aesthetic is worse than Solution 9 myself.
FF14 and FF16 characters are old men? 30s is old? I thought 30s was still young.
>>715791179Nah. They simply attracted the wrong crowd, neglected real humans and now thats all thats left.
>>715792691I like Juan and Clive being men and not bishie twinks.
>>715790308>>715790470It's been confirmed for a while now that they either 1) went just and out sourced the story or 2) flat out just hired sweet baby inc to write it with no oversight
>>715792691Anyone older than 25 is an old man in Japan
>>715792740Nah, even the ff14 subreddit are laughing at this fake controversy.
>>715766089>Hermes was already having a breakdown because the former Fandaniel decided to kill himself.His bullshit stopped making sense the second it is revealed that Ancients are immortals and there were other NPCs going through the same thing as him without lashing out like retards.
>>715793568>His bullshit stopped making sense the second it is revealed that Ancients are immortalshow?
>and there were other NPCs going through the same thing as him without lashing out like retards.I don't think having a pity circlejerk about how they're all somber about society would have helped Hermes.
>>715782345you don't get demoted in japanese companies
>>715793568>>715793687>Still arguing over Endwalker and Shadowbringers story beats when that story is over it doens't exist in the game anymore.Hey faggots, we're almost at 7.3 MSQ, you're 3.5 years out of date.
>>715794373everything's perfect in Tural so we have nothing to discuss, DT's lore/plot/worldbuilding is flawless so what's the point of having discussion about something like that?
>>715766089>its creator had a disregard for both life and death.Hermes be like Junior, you DARE! You are courting DEATH
>kills every innocent bystander possible
>>715760816 (OP)Yoshi-P threads save me from anxiety.
>>715794373Bro we still have Trancers dilating.
Every day is 6.0 release day.
can I impregnate Alisaie yet?
>>715794639not enough budget for big belly
please buy cosmetic from mogstation so we can add pregnancy in 9.2
>>715760816 (OP)He should move on and work on new projects.
If he wants to keep working on MMOs he should start another game, XIV ends with base Endwalker.
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I miss my cat... give her a reason to come back...
>>715794789Just commission a 3D model of her, then you can look at her without playing the game
Hermes was wrong, Venat was wrong, the Ancients had all the right in the world to exist until they deemed it worthy and kill themselves
After all, what's the alternative according to Venat? To struggle endlessly? Pursuing the same end goal of "A perfect utopia" anyways? Just to fail and fail and keep failing? Until the universe freezes?
The whole moral is superficial as fuck. Specially when we are talking about races who's lifespan goes on for millennia.
The only real reason Venat was "in the right" its because the timeline was already set in place by being a time traveling drama. If you removed that, and made it so Venat simply decided that "The Ancients were too dumb, and deserved to be reduced to monkeys", you'll have many more Trancers shitting at the screen.
>>715794789what do you want
>>715794903Hmm... nyo...
>>715794915FFXIV, but like good
>>715795081so what is "good" to you
>>715775892uh buddy, your covid delays?
>>715760816 (OP)i unsubbed just right now and i wont come back until wuk lamat is killed and kate is fired
>>715794903I wished there was some easy way to export my wol's model from the game so i can just 3D print them myself
>>715795154same except a year ago instead of just right now
>>715771960how does lucy look like in real life?
>>715795137You just want my kitty's images don't you
>>715794914Venat was right because Hermes' determination decided the fate of the entire universe, not just that of one world.
It is a trolley problem, but when it comes down to sheer numbers, then Venat had the right idea.
They announced the release date for 7.3?
>>715795530Nyo. I just want to know what you value in the game and what you want to improve for it to be "good" again.
>>715795647No, but we'll hear it next week. It's probably August 5th though.
>>715795530i would bend over you kitten while wuk lamats dead body is under us
>>715795771Good story that makes me feel feefees, non-homogenized classes. Content that is less predictable.
>>715795771Kinda wanna resub so I can do the tomestone event and do the MSQ before unsubbing again, but I don't want to risk having to pay another sub.
>>715795537>Venat was right because Hermes' determination decided the fate of the entire universe, not just that of one world.But that literally can be said of the Omega race as well.
Condemning the Ancients for the actions of one individual, or due to their innate potential to cause more harm than good, in a universe already filled with life threatening beings, it's beyond dumb.
Specially when, the current humanity, can do equally as much harm. Just look at the Allagans who ended almost on the same path towards Apathy Extinction.
This whole situation feels stupid because its trying to moral stand an issue that doesn't have a solution. "Life will try to ease its own burden, and by doing that, will cause itself more harm than good."
Venat solution was simply "LMAO JUST CLIP THEIR WINGS SO THEY CRAWL ON THE GROUND FOR A LITTLE LONGER"
>>715796261Trancer please.
Zodiark was a malevolent gos who turned moral decay into a malevolent rot. Burn it and nothing of value will be lost.
>>715771272>official supportSo absolutely worthless.
>>715796047It depends on how much grind you wanna get out of it.
If you sub now, it'll elapse on the 18th of next month, well in the ballpark of the 7.3 MSQ dropping.
If you wanna do the deep dungeon, it'll probably be 7.35, though.
7.31 for Cosmic Exploration update.
Beast Tribe is a tossup. Pelupelu dropped in 7.1, but Mamool Ja in 7.25.
>>715796261did you just play through the omega sidequest or what
>forced trancer discussion
>in 2025
zzz
>>715796461I do not support the Zodiark solution for it was equally as dumb. Again, just buying time for a problem that was going to bite them in the ass eventually.
The root of the problem stems from Venat withholding the information she got. Or rather, from the entire plot hanging on an inevitability due to time traveling.
When, if you think just a bit about it all, Venat arguments fall completely flat. The planet only survived due to herself, an Ancient, her Echo-empowered thralls, and a WoL who's pretty much just a glorified Ancient.
Which essentially means, for Venat idea to work, there's always the need for someone powerful policing humanity and taking care of it.
SO HOW THE FUCK is that any different from the Ancients making Zodiark to daddy them?
>>715796646Cosmic Exploration is gay grind for gay people, and Deep Dungeons are evergreen solo content you can do at any time so it's not an issue.
>>715794903>Just commission a 3D You can do it for free with minimal effort.
>>715795214Use Blender FBX importing.
>>715796261This isn't about "condemning" the Ancients, it's about the universes' ability to regulate itself, without interference from anyone who thinks that they know better.
>>715796901Well, I'm just saying that whether you want to resub is down to what you want from the patch.
If it's just MSQ, then yeah you can resub now and do the moogle tome farm and MSQ when it releases and then unsub. Oh, and the Alliance Raid, of course.
If you want the other features, like Deep Dungeon, Cosmic Exploration and the new relic step, then you might wanna wait until later.
>>715797025she's a cute hag
>>715796959Clearly it could not do such a thing since Meteion was almost successful in exterminating all life within it.
>>715796879you're putting more thought into that than SE did when writing it.
they just wanted an epic time loop because FF1 had that.
>>715797103Runar is such a lucky guy
some trannies here can't even unsub because they have to pay yoship house tithe, house that took one year of lotteries to get, what a fucking joke lmao
>>715797187They had like 9 months of not having to stay subbed.
>>715797187i also got a small house in the Mist but i dont want to pay Square Enix a single dime anymore so fuck it and Yoshi-P stop licking Kates pink pussy
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This discussion is old and futile because Zodiark Trancers will just cope fanfic the sacrifices into what they need them to be for Amaurotines to look pristine and morally pure dindus.
>>715797113Yeah, she took matters into her own hands; perverting the course of nature itself, so she had to be stopped.
And the Ancients had to be sundered for that to happen, sad but true.
>>715796654It doesn't change the end result, dammit. It's what people don't seem to get because they aren't seeing the bigger picture here.
Venat, Hermes, the stupid bird... they all gone. And eventually, WoL will be too.
Humanity WILL keep advancing. Eventually WILL reach Allagan levels again. And once that happens... then what?
We already saw how extreme levels of advancement make humanity dull and nihilistic. We even saw how this applies to alien species as well. This is a problem that stems from LIFE itself. Not just Ancient derivatives. Therefore it is inevitable that life will either nuke itself, or nuke others.
But Venat presented her actions as a solution to ALL that. A way to stop the Ancients from ending like those Ra-la fuckers. "Cutting their wings, so they get nerfed just enough".
BUT ITS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION. Humanity will recover that status, through tech, magic... And when that happens again, there wont be another Venat to police them, or an Hermes to test them.
Tho, if there was another Venat, it would make the problem worse. For then what's the philosophy here? That humanity and all life must be constantly culled? Forced through these "Trials"? Never to reach too far away?
>>715760890More like yoshi p abandoned THEM. This content scheduling and quality is a joke
>>715797338It's by far the most important aspect of it, since the sundering must happen so that things that lead up to the existence of the current WoL could happen so that Meteion could be defeated, because time travel in FFXIV follows the Novikov Self-Consistency principle.
Content for FF14 that had potential but failed:
>Chaotic, originally thought by the community to be a harder version of an Alliance raid recalling back to Ivalice on release, what turned into is a 24 man single room boss fight. Content is dead.
>Criterion, what the community thought it might be some kind of WoW mythic type scaling difficulty raid, repeatable dungeon that were harder than normal dungeons but not so hard that you couldn't pug it. What it turned into was Extreme tier boss fights but over 4 people which made them as hard as a Savage for personal responsibility. Content is dead
>Cosmic Explorers thought to be the best part of Diadem, Firmament and Island Sanctuary. What it turned into was basic bitch mining that you do in the Open world mixed with some crafting fates that are worse in every regard to Ishgard Firmament. Content is dying.
>Occult Crescent thought by the community to be the best of Eureka and Bojza, what it turned into was the worst of Eureka and Bojza and the timing couldn't be worse when the player base was crying out for more casual-midcore content that was a more relaxing grind, it was with a raid that is incredibly difficult to get into and if you do get into it (Fork Tower) it's as hard as a Savage with only 3 resses per entire run for a 48 man raid.Content is dying.
>Savage is now too difficult for people who don't use mods and tools to run, too easy for those who have played for 10 years and do use tools, the dev team listened to those who have been using mod tools and complained it was too easy, and made the Savage raids now so difficult it's almost an insurmountable task for a vanilla player to raid. Content is dead.
>Ultimate has the same issue as Savage. Content is dead.
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>>715797294I wouldn't mind sacrificing one million Brazilians if it meant bringing a dead friend back, so I don't see how it's an argument against the Ancients.
>>715797592Yeah, but these aren't Brazilians. These are newborn lives in the same age pre-sundering.
And also you being willing to sacrifice one million Brazilians doesn't mean others need to agree with you.
Lastly, the whole thing Ancients are jerked for is their selfless, noble sacrifice. To turn around and sacrifice others to undo those sacrifices quite undermines that.
>>715797294As I said, this has nothing to do with Zodiark. Zodiark sucks for the same reason Venat sucks. Its a bandage to a problem way too big for any of them to fully cover.
And yet, we all agree that Zodiark was a stupid solution. While the game keeps fellating Venat for an equal dumb reasoning.
Zodiark would allow the Ancients to survive a bit longer, until Meteion gets them, or they all kill themselves.
Venat allowed Humanity to prosper for another 12k years, and now that she's gone, humanity has full freedom to advance and reach similar results to those of the Ancients. So the problem comes crawling back again.
By her own words, she clipped their wings so they would instead crawl. But she forgot humanity will make themselves new wings eventually.
>>715797574>what the community thought it might be some kind of WoW mythic type scaling difficultyThank fuck it isn't. Mythic + is garbage.
They just need to make criterion more like extreme level.
>Cosmic Explorers thought to be the best part of Diadem, Firmament and Island Sanctuary. What it turned into was basic bitch mining that you do in the Open world mixed with some crafting fatesSo basically like Ishgardian Restoration?
>Occult Crescent thought by the community to be the best of Eureka and Bojza, what it turned into was the worst of Eureka and Bojza and the timing couldn't be worse when the player base was crying out for more casual-midcore content that was a more relaxing grind, it was with a raid that is incredibly difficult to get into and if you do get into it (Fork Tower) it's as hard as a Savage with only 3 resses per entire run for a 48 man raid.Speak for yourself. I like forays for forays, not for the Alliance Raids tacked at the end. Forked Tower being overscaled is unfortunate, but it's not a dealbreaker.
Now Pagos, that is a dealbreaker.
>Savage is now too difficult for people who don't use mods and tools to runIssue of skill.
>Ultimate has the same issue as Savage. Content is dead.You larpin.
>>715797728>These are newborn livesYeah, they're even lower than that, since they aren't even closely evolutionarily related to the ancients, but some lower primal life forms. They could have been the equivalent of amoeba for all we know. Why is it not permissible to sacrifice them to bring dead people back?
>Lastly, the whole thing Ancients are jerked for is their selfless, noble sacrifice. I'm pretty sure people going in there to create Zodiark weren't expecting to get back. Elidibus and Emet both weren't taking it lightly and in their conversations it did not look like either of them believed it to be something they can easily get out of.
>>715760816 (OP)all my homies quit this and are playing gacha now
>>715797778I disagree, I don't think Zodiark was a stupid solution at all. It worked, even if all it did was stall for time. But time was something the ancients needed in the absence of information as to what the fuck actually happened that nuked their world and caused their powers to spiral out of control, which led to it.
>>715797778>and now that she's gone, humanity has full freedom to advance and reach similar results to those of the Ancients.Except they don't have the power to magic all their problems away, and have spent eons persevering.
That was the whole point.
When struck by calamity, the Ancients used Zodiark to halt it (good), reverse its effects on the star (good) so it could support life again, and then decided they wanted to sacrifice newborn lives to bring back those they had rendered up to Zodiark to fix the star in the first place so they could pretend it never happened and live forevermore in blizzful ignorance and then would die to ennui.
The sundered suffered multiple calamities and got back up.
>>715798002do it also quit your sub and play some gachas
>>715797862>Thank fuck it isn't. Mythic + is garbage.They just need to make criterion more like extreme level.
The content is dead.
>So basically like Ishgardian Restoration?No as explained before.
>Speak for yourself. I like forays for forays, not for the Alliance Raids tacked at the end. Forked Tower being overscaled is unfortunate, but it's not a dealbreaker.Now Pagos, that is a dealbreaker.
It's impossible to run Fork tower as a pug raiding party, something that was very common in Boja. They implemented the worst system from Eureka.
>Issue of skill.Correct, using mods and tools is how a 10 year player overcomes their lack of skill and has convinced themselves they are very skilled at the game because they can clear using tools which they have said the game is too easy, because those types of players are loudest with no sense of self-awareness.
>You larpin. Ultimate is dead, there is no Ultimate for 7.3 and those who would Ult raid in FF14 quit until there is confirmation for the next Ult. Do you play the game?
>>715797574>Chaotic, originally thought by the community to be a harder version of an Alliance raid recalling back to Ivalice on release, what turned into is a 24 man single room boss fightThis larp again. Chaotic was first revealed in the 7.1 part one revealed Chaotic and then right after the initial reveal they showed that it was only going to be Cloud of Darkness.
Are we seriously back to Trancer bullshit again?
>>715798356>Justifying the implementation and presence of unpopular dead contentIf only they implemented the wishes of the community and did implement an Ivalice type Alliance raid, this is what the community wanted, not a 24 man Savage, single room boss fight.
>>715798158i already quit my sub. it feels like a genuine waste when i login once every few days, do nothing, and then logout
>>715798467The community didn't have time to want anything. Chaotic wasn't a fanfest promise they just sprung it on us out of the blue
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>>715797360>all this text to say venat badvenat is one of the most selfish fuckers in the game, alongside hermes and emet and the game repeatedly says this. The devs even made the omega sidequest to explain to people what hermes is as a character.
So what are you so mad about with the story? that your party (that exists literally because of venat) is siding with venat, that is trying to avoid total annihilation like all the other civilizations meteion found?
>>715797965fwiw this is why nobody bothers to argue with trancers
>>715798060Except they can reach similar enough results by tech or magic. The Omega race didn't had anything by birth, and yet they almost nuked half the universe by the end of their campaign.
And as I've mentioned before, the Allagans were very fucking close to those levels. Give it a couple thousands years, and they would have figured it all out.
Being born with the power to weave Aether around its a cool start, but eventually humanity can bypass those innate differences and even surpass the Ancients in many areas.
They will get those wings. Perhaps not the exact same, but they will get them. And once that happens, then what? Because one of the things Elidibus made perfectly clear in Shadowbringers, is that humans forget shit quite quickly. The memory of WoL will eventually fade, and all that will be left is a very advanced civilization who like the Ancients, the Omega race, the Ra-la people, etc, etc... will want to reach "Paradise".
>>715760816 (OP)Can't wait to see what hot takes Kate has to undermine her boss again.
>>715798590Do you eat meat?
>>715798583>The community didn't have time to want anythingNewfag? It's been a long ask, for years at this point, that they implement a harder version of the Alliance raid.
>>715796010Nice booblander
>>715795926you look so good twin, nice to see you still posting after all this time
>>715760890Not only him but xiv players also loved when wow streamers played and reacted to your game only to abandon it. While people who play wow knew they (and all streamers) were always cancer
>>715798585*what hermes is as a character and how venat is just as selfish
>>715798692No the community wants more casual and midcore content. They implemented a slighty more difficult alliance raid in FT and people lost their minds.
>>715798585It's not that Venat is bad, its that the game itself, not just its characters, but the entire plot, tries to make Venat logic seem flawless. When its full of massive holes that contradict her and her goals.
I would accept Venat as a saint like figure if the game at least accepted, that just like Zodiark, Venat solution wasn't an eternal one. That once she's gone, all bets are off.
But no, Endwalker ended, and we still acting like if Venat just solved the entire world problem, present and future alike. The fucking universe is saved thanks to her.
>>715798375Yeah. Someone is really bored, it seems.
>>715761020>doesn't need a sub.Plots are timed just like in FFXIV and there is no apartment option for those who don't want to deal with it.
>>715798871That's not true at all, Fork tower isn't a slightly harder Alliance raid, it's Savage tier with a 3 res limit that wasn't remotely the ask. Again are you a newfag? Did you play Ivalice on release they're not remotely the same.
>>715799028>it's Savage tierkeeeek
>>715798375Im just bored of shiting on Yoshi. Let me shit on Venat instead. And if posible fuck her too
>>715798912Venat freed them from the wheel. They were going to keep sacrificing half the population every time there was a problem, because they were retarded and she saved them.
>zodiark trance bait
>le game dead le content dead bait
Slow morning/afternoon, huh?
>>715797574How hard is it for the retards at Square to understand that people just want content that doesn't put them to sleep and still requires effort from them, where they don't have to create a static, don't have to schedule in timeslots, don't have to join Discord for entry, or obviously tailor-made for VC? It's not that difficult to understand
>>715763302The devs are going to memoryhole Tural harder than fucking Ala Mhigo.
>>715799028FT is not savage. Forget newfag do you even play the game? And yeah I played the Ivalice raids on release my first two runs in there didn't see Hashmal towers.
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>try to do a but more OC
>all instances I zone into are 8 or less people
>all of them are either afk or doing treasure chests
Jesus fuck it is grim how fast content dies in this game.
Theres a reason yoshit pissers would agree with venat. They are already playing and paying monthly for the shitty MMO that is wuk lament XIV
>>715799167Do you not remember how much crying there was about dungeons being too hard now and how some casuals were quitting, because they can't clear a dungeon. They can install Mare and Penumbra and have 100 emotes on their bars, but don't ever expect them to be able to move out of the aoe in time.
>>715799242Show the list of mods you use and how long you've played the game.
>>715773924idk the people I know who play FF are women in their mid to late 30s
>>715768748Miqotes having the CIA pose isn't a coincidence.
>>715778157The actual game's score is still Mostly positive with over 3x the amount of recent reviews
>>715799324>Do you not remember how much crying there was about dungeons being too hard now and how some casuals were quittingthat was hilarious
>>715798375mad you can't sphene samefag?
i know you are
>>715797681https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0E0FdKDfjA&ab_channel=NorthernLion%27Oat%27dClips
>>715799339I don't use any mods. I did use the map tracker when I was going for the thief map title but that was 3 years ago.
>>715799167Because for hard as nails content you still have people who are deep using splatoon and associated tools saying the content is too easy, they are the problem for Casual and Midcore because they are the ones who are being listened to.
Tourers are the terms the JP community uses for mod tool users. Light-chan is casual players.
>>715799449go tell your mom you love her, schizo
arguing with trancers is not worth it because in most cases here they're probably baiters
and if they're not, they are by definition deluded and have their very own fanfiction narrative running for why the ancients were goodbois that dindu nuffin
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>>715798912Oh so you're mad about the dynamis thing. I can see how you would feel that its too convenient that sundered people is more resistant to dynamis attacks
but honestly I dont care much for the finer details of the aether or dynamis and such.
What I appreciate about venat is shes been nurturing the sundered people to withstand suffering to prevent total annihilation from meteion, but she birthed the sundered people with flaws so you can see the selfishness and her hypocrisy there being born an all-powerful ancient and is playing god with 14 planets.
>>715799502So you started the game 4031 days which is over 11 years ago which is exactly my point but you're too stupid to read.
>>715797574>Savage is now too difficult for people who don't use mods and tools to run, too easy for those who have played for 10 years and do use tools
>>715799503Cheating is incredibly rampant in the JP community, I'd say even more than in the western one.
Where were you when the game died again?
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/198895-The-Many-Deaths-of-Final-Fantasy-XIV
>>715779054>Unreal raid tier.
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>>715799295How the fuck did you manage that?
>>715799746>too stupid to readMy point was your larp about Chaotic was never real.
>>715799731Meh, I guess. I wish they actually portrayed Venat as more of a flawed heroine directly. Sure, there's the implications, some comments here and there... but overall, she was portrayed as this goodie mommy who just wished for her children to grow and be happy.
... Except, you know, all the times said children killed each other into extinction.
Sure, the Ascians were there fucking things up, but let's not pretend the humans in XIV are by default any innocent.
And that should reflect on Venat opinion on them. On how she acted as a God.
But nah, they just kept her nice and clean, until she got mega dead.
>>715779054Fanfest announcement probably in the next LL.
>>715799167Why won't they just make the combat fun?
>>715800031>My point was I didn't read your post but I have to now double down because I don't want to lose face.Of course man, sure.
Her decisions led to the salvation of the universe.
The Ancients' decisions would have led to false hope, stagnation and indisputable, meaningless doom.
Keep being mad and gooning
>>715779054You know for once I'd actually say based as fuck even though they'd never do it
With how bad FRU got I think I'll take another savage tier over it
Or just bring criterion back
>>715800170They're not mad, just bored. They know they're rambling, but that's the point. Village idiot retardation for entertainment.
>>715800170>Her decisions led to the salvation of the universe.Wrong.
>>715800168I'm sorry you can't hang on to calling me a newfag and have to backtrack like this
>>715800170>Her decisions led to the salvation of the universe.FOR NOW.
She, like the Ancients tried to, only bought some extra time. Life will try to get to "Paradise", will try to get "their wings", and all the issues Venat was against, will repeat themselves.
And next time, there wont be an Hermes or Venat to "fix it".
>>715799167I want a solo ultimate.
>>715799418It's pathetic though. Like how do they even hit max level? How can people have such a slow reaction time? Do they not recognize easy patterns? Most dungeons you can run with trusts and they literally show you what to do for every single attack. It's crazy how some people can be so bad at an easy game.
>>715800341i want to solo Y'Shtola
FFXIV is the modderโs MMO and we like this. We use all the plugins for โcontentโ (zzzz) and then plap โn goon with our eepy frens while playing other games.
>>715770827correct
everyone i knew who fell for the great exodus meme tried the free trial and realized they were just watching a movie, realized how fucking grim the MMO scene is, and quit mmos altogether.
Between Chaotic and FT, which one is the bigger shitshow?
>>715800295What is this talk about Paradise? Sounds like commie speak for Utopia. Don't tell me the reason FFXIV has been sucking so much lately is because they have some commie larper writing all this shit.
>>715781936>just purposely hamstring yourself instead of using an actual viable classRetard doesn't remember clearing PotD solo was nearly impossible unless you were playing RDM
>>715800448Most people persist underneath a slave mentality. The act of performing to an outstanding degree for the sake of itself is a wholly alien concept to them. They will only put effort into something if they are being forced to do so, either by circumstance or an authority figure breathing down their neck. Since they recognize videogames as "leisure", to them it means that no effort whatsoever should be put into them.
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>>715799295?
on a weekday
during working hours
>>715800559Chaotic is completely dead, released on Christmas Eve it's impossible to run it now.
Fork Tower is a shit show for different reasons but it is fixable if they change the implementation and remove the forced res limit, not even BA had a forced Res limit it was based on what actions you brought into the raid which made it more organic.
>>715800539>no tits tatted up trashy whores with too much metal in their faceNo thanks.
>>715800590Ancients were always portrayed as Angels from Paradise/Heaven who fell. So all the references to Paradise Lost in Shadowbringers and Endwalker.
>>715800559Chaotic.
Forked Tower is actually sorta fine now. Doable. It'll just become BA-tier.
Chaotic.. I dunno man.
>>715800276You're played for 11 years, the same game and can't understand why the hardest content in the game would be easy to you while difficult to a newer player.
Are you stupid?
>>715797574Criterion is great even if it's not what the playerbase wanted. They should remove the (savage) mode, replaced with just a no-death achievement. And probably add a middle difficulty between variant and criterion.
OC is actually good, the phantom job system is better than having consumable actions that everyone just hoards. The map is good and there's reason to explore all of it throughout your time there. My only problem with OC is how fast the fates and CEs spawn.
Forked tower is a disaster, their biggest mistake since the 7.0 MSQ.
Arcadion savage is good.
No disagreement on Chaotic and Cosmic, they suck.
>>715760890Reminder that retard Yoshida actually put Asmongold in his game, only to get clowned on weeks later by Asmon dropping the game entirely.
>>715800808You're trying really hard to argue something I never commented on
>>715798356
>>715800559>Supposedly midcore content>The entire second phase is basically one giant body check.I hope they stop listening to wowfugees.
>>715800559im pissed i cant even do chaotic now without discord because god forbid i dont play this dogshit on the week of christmas, FT is still clearable but a pain in the ass to deal with
>>715800634You make a great point for why remote work is a terrible idea. I bet you anything there are still some people that work on FFXIV that still work remotely. Which would likely explain why we have to wait 4 1/2 months for a fucking patch that used to take 3 months and to top it off they break it up into micro patches, because they have gotten fat and lazy and complacent with their fucking formula. Also, back to the point, do they have no regard for other players? It's an MMO, it's not a single player game. You keep fucking up in a dungeon you are dragging everyone else down too. You'd think that'd be enough to make people want to at least perform to at least some kind of standard. One of my good friends in game is a grandma pushing 70 and she can run dungeons and extreme trials no problem.
>>715800817What they should do is make Criterion about the level of CEs, then make a Savage Criterion that is the old Criterion difficulty level.
>My only problem with OC is how fast the fates and CEs spawn.Same. But in the case of FATEs that's probably cause they also die quickly.
Also glad we can't port into CEs from camp. That shit was retarded.
>>715801003Most people have little to no regard for themselves, you think they would actually care for others, especially randoms online?
>>715760890lmaaaao who the fuck wants blizzard subhumans to play this game? they don't eat anything other than shit with blizzard's logo on it.
more like the wow grifters who juggle between "IT'S OVER" BLIZZARD IS LISTENING WE'RE BACK" were trying to scare their dogshit company into fixing their dogshit game
well surprise surprise the game has gone full humiliation ritual now, choke on it blizztroons
>>715800901Chaotic was all mr ozma slop. Ozma was fun on release, DSR and Chaotic are just annoying.
>>715801078This game is cooked, bring on a realm rereborn (again).
>>715800559Both are shit for the same reasons. Savage with all its body checks and study requirements work on an 8 man scale. Trying to use the same things in larger group content is so fantastically retarded that at this point, I suspect malice on their part.
>>715800559Would be FT because the raise limit, chaotic is so much fun and I wish we got more of it. Would be nice if FT had a normal mode to get ya ready for the few mechanics that just fucking kill you in FT
>>715800741>>715800769Youโre welcome to go back to WoW. Oh, whatโs that? Torghast? The Jailer? Yeah, thought so.
>>715800883>Plays for 11 years>Doesn't understand that the game will be far easier for him than for newer people>Thinks the game needs to cater exclusively to him>Doesn't understand why people are quitting hardcore content or using mods to bridge the skill gapI knew hardcore raiders were mouth breathers but thanks for the daily reminder.
>>715801336Now you're just writing fanfiction about me. This is pretty sad
>>715801318I have a better, more attractive character in FFXIV.
>>715798871>>715798692The community wants content which is more challenging than their daily roulettes (can be cleared with 30% GCD uptime and 25 deaths), but not so hard that it requires multiple lockouts of progression and a youtube guide for the median player to prevail. A very small amount of this content does exist in the game already e.g.
>various old extremes not on MINE (titan, ifrit, susano, hydaelyn, valigarmanda, etc)>deep dungeons as a party>much of the BLU carnival>CEs in Bozja and OCPre-nerf Ivalice was this. Back when jobs were more complex, a lot of content which is now babby-mode also fulfilled this need.
The community wanted Criterion to be this, but it wasn't
The community wanted Chaotic to be this, but it wasn't
The community wanted FTB to be this, but it wasn't
They keep missing the mark when they make this new content and that's why so many casuals are leaving.
>Plays for 11 years
>Doesn't understand that the game will be far easier for him than for newer people
This also applies to people who think dungeons and trials are faceroll tier because they've been playing for 10 years while newcomers constantly eat shit in them.
>>715801336Ngl muh hardcore FFXIV players are legitimately the most annoying players in the game, at least the mare faggots keep to themselves and you can ignore them. Hardcore faggots cry about no content and ignore 90% of the stuff in the game then use fucking mods to cheat. Like FFXIV was never a hard content game itโs like the 3rd or 4th thing on the list. If it was up to me I would remove savage and ultimates
>>715801386>No I'm not a newfag I played for a long time>See I played for 11 years here's proof>No I didn't play for 11 years that's made up>I'm replying because it's not me even though it is meYou're lost in the sauce, go have a lie down.
>>715801480>The community wants content which is more challenging than their daily roulettes (can be cleared with 30% GCD uptime and 25 deaths), but not so hard that it requires multiple lockouts of progression and a youtube guide for the median player to prevail.No, they want content they can do, but others fail.
>>715801583>Doesn't understand that the game will be far easier for him than for newer people>Thinks the game needs to cater exclusively to him>Doesn't understand why people are quitting hardcore content or using mods to bridge the skill gapThis is all fanfiction you've written about me
Haven't done FT, is there really a hard raise limit?
I remember in BA/DRS healers just had to roll dice with sacrifice
>>715801546>If it was up to me I would remove savage and ultimatesAgreed, the one thing Ultimate raiders would use to justify the existence of content for 2% of the population is the World first race on Twitch but now they can't even do that because people stopped watching, there was barely anyone watching for FRU compared to previous races. It's done.
>>715801664yes. you get 3 lives, and only chemist subjobs can revive
>>715801540>getting people that donโt even use aoe at level 100 content or the random sam using air on bossesIโm going insane
>>715801336>skill gap>savageSavage is literally just an endurance test how much shit you can put up with. Nothing about that is hard, it is annoying. Once mechanics are figured out someones progress is barred by
>memorising the guide>having 7 other faggots who don't fuck upThat is fucking it, there is absolutely nothing difficult about it, especially now that Jobs play itsself. Someone who plays XIV for the first time and made it to max level and someone playing the game for 11+ years depend on the above way, way more than their own skill. I wouldn't even know what skills are transferable from doing Coil to doing Arcadion... I guess at some point you know what dynamo, limit cut and all these obnoxious shorthands mean?
Blind prog is a different kettle of fish and very much benefits from experience, but I would assume that is less than 1% of the community who engage in that.
>>715801660>>715800276>>715799502>No I haven't played for 11 years, you made it up
>>715801480>The community wants content which is more challenging than their daily roulettes (can be cleared with 30% GCD uptime and 25 deaths), but not so hard that it requires multiple lockouts of progression and a youtube guide for the median player to prevailThey want content that's difficult but not content they can possible die in since dying in a video game causes them immense mental stress
>>715801709I have had more than a small amount of tanks in my expert roulettes that use ONLY one ability, like Holy Shelltron and The Blackest Night.
For. The Entire. Run.
I had a WAR that didn't even use bloodwhetting.
I am going mental.
>>715801695Plus majority of ffxiv donโt give a shit about world first stuff heโll older players never cared about streams in general other than a few meme videos
>>715801763I pointed out the fanfiction you wrote about me. Playing for 11 years wasn't one of them. Try again
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>>715801784They want content they can die in, be revived and not have the entire fight wiped for up to 47 other people due to body checks
>>715801664You have 3 lives, after that you cant be ressurected and can leave the group. Once the entire party wipes the run is over and everyone gets booted.
Whoever told the devs BA was fun/good/engaging is a stupid faggot.
>>715801802Yes like people always say they making classes easier but thatโs so the decent players can carry the shit ones like they canโt completely make normal dungeons and raids too hard or shit will be nearly impossible
>>715801910BA was fun and there was no raise limit, healers just needed to carry logos
>>715801480I am just done with watching guides. I can't stand having to watch some fucking video just to understand what could possibly kill me in the game. I hate this Kaizo approach to combat content where they do their best to obfuscate the mechanics, same way i hate hitting an invisible coin block in mario mid jump. Yeah cool you got me, I couldn't see that. Now I get to repeat that 30 times and I might get to the end of the level unless I watch a video.
>>715801910Like one thing should change if everyone gets wiped it should just put you at the start of the boss and not have stupid sac shit
>>715801825Even less people care about it now as well since the latest Savage tier world first and Ultimate were won by people found to be cheating/ using mods with no punishment from YoshiP.
It's made the entire race a joke, which I've no doubt contributed to the reason why there's no Ultimate for 7.3.
>we have no resources
>fucking savage has a lead designer and 1 designer +team for each fight
>so much manpower for 4 fights that release every 8 months
I don't think the resource cost problem is real, they just want to do DDR slop and have 0 motivation to do anything else.
>>715802202resource problem was QA staff and time
>>715802063But a very small very loud minority of the player base cry for more ultimates. Just fuck them all
>>715802202They dont want to say raiders are the source of their publicity and they need to focus on content catering to them.
>release new savage tier
>release a new DRS right after
>dont release a new CLL
?
>>715802202>Lead dev for the overall raid tier >Head dev for it's own raid fight with his own team>Not including artists>Not including sound design and music>Purely for Boss mechanicsThey absolutely have a problem with resource management, when I read that Famitsu article about the latest raid and the devs who oversaw it, the team is so bloated.
>>715801546all the mare faggots i've ever met get up in their feelings when i say i dont use it but yeah hardcore fags in any mmo are annoying as shit
>>715797574Savage and especially ultimates are the most PF'd content in the game, they're the opposite of dead.
>>715802436I met one mare user and she was ok and she didnโt force it in my face
>>715802063>Savage tier world first and Ultimate were won by people found to be cheating/ using mods with no punishment from YoshiPit's amazing how this shit happened so many times in a row and he still did absolutely nothing
>>715802423Seishiro looks like he posts here
>>715802696he's the one that posts the google doc to piss off the zodiark trancer all the time
>>715802615maybe i was being too harsh with what i said, but me saying i dont use it usually ends up with the person acting weird after, though i've always assumed more because they felt like i was going to report them more than their ego being hurt
>>715802624He will change it so we get weekly updates so that break mods
>>715802063>>715802624The cheatng ultimate team got their ach taken away and weapons deleted.
>>715802796uhhh based...?
UHHH BASED???
>>715803035should've had their accounts deleted
>>715802874What sort of a situation was it that you ended up being asked about whether you used it?
>>715803078Little does the gay Twitter paladin know he actually is fighting the developers on 4chan all day, but they're here on lolcow safari.
>>715803114one of my friends hangs around a bunch of roleplayers
>>715803172>the gay Twitter paladinqrd?
>>715803078don't you quote that fat toad woman here
>>715803243One of the trancers on /v/ seems to be @volkeroathsworn on Twitter who spends most of his time either retweeting I HATE WOKE posts, retweeting buff shirtless men, getting into arguments on FF_XIV_EN posts, or posting the same Kate dreck there as he does here.
>>715803296i'm sorry but it's just very applicable here
>>715803035They did in TOP, not for FRU, nothing happened to them. Nothing happened to the team who cheated in Savagde arcadia second tier either.
>>715803035Only JP and only because it reached social media. YoshiP wouldn't have done anything if that internal drama stayed on forums and small twitter accounts
>>715803227Yeah, that makes sense, if you were around them and your friend was using it, they probably were trying to include you, assuming that you do as well and having realized that you're not there for it had an "oh shit" moment realizing that you were a security risk, kek.
>>715760816 (OP)Does anyone actually enjoy talking to others in this game? From my some what brief time playing this game, I have found that the players are the most insufferable I've ever seen in a game. Best way to describe it would be toxic positivity from social media driven conversations and social rules. Describing it as cancer would be an understatement.
>>715803414Do we know for sure that they post on /v/? Might just be they get their images from the same source.
>>715803695Nah I've been in the Gold Saucer for the last few days and people are just casually chatting it's been pretty nice.
>>715803705They're at the very least part of the same circle, yeah. The folder dumper gets a bit pissy when anybody knows this one exists, and he does have a /pol/ inclination same as volkeroathsworn. I've seen it tossed around once or twice that folder dumper might by Skiros from the Lodestone forum, already known for mass sockpuppeting and crying about imminent game death.
>>715803815They were very openly posting here in EW, and since their overall behavior hasn't changed since then (they still seethe about XIV and Venat daily on twitter), I don't see why they would have stopped, and how we coincidentally have someone with the exact same pictures and posts rampaging on /v/.
I think some people labor under the misapprehension here that /v/ and 4chan are le sekret klub, when it's basically reddit adjacent at this point. It's not some walled off community with 0 overlap with the outside world. To pretend that someone can't possibly post in multiple places at once just because is naivete.
>>715803695Maybe around Shadowbringers or Endwalker, but many I've interacted with lately were quite eager to discuss the faults of the game. In fact, even in the earliest days of Dawntrail I ended up talking to a group of people in Heritage Found that openly complained about the plot just being shit. Earlier, when hunting for interesting personalities, I ended up having a pretty curious conversation with one of the venue "workers", that was complaining about how the whorehouse they ran ended up discriminating against random customers because the place ended up being flooded with the friends that the leadership that only accepted offers from their friends. It was funny, pretty much felt like interviewing a prostitute about the woes of her job. Looking back on it, I always get the urge to send tells to randoms prompting a conversation in search of something interesting.
>>715803695the toxic positivity was absolutely rampant during EW, but its definitely fallen off during DT
>>715770572That was a huge red flag for me too and made me wonder where their priorities were. I mean who even cares about 'rewards' so explicitly like that? That's something you'd hear from a gacha game player or something.
How about doubling the amount of combat content instead? That's the only thing that matters at the end of the day. Who the fuck cares about 'rewards', it's not like EW had a dearth of them with how much shit they crammed into island sanctuary (only for people to not care anyway because the content was trash and the actual content is what actually matters).
>>715803882By the BTW, "folder dumper gets a bit pissy when anybody knows this one exists" means you get a generic WHAT DID YOU DO IN FINAL FANTASY response or you don't get any response at all. A reply-guy who you know is reading every single post is fucking MAD when he's NOT replying to you.
>>715804135>Heritage Found that openly complained about the plot just being shitI saw that in living memory waiting at a hunt in 7.0
was surprised to see people actually complaining in the open about the plot and shouting SPPEEEEEEN
>>715803414Lemme help you out a bit here.
https://x.com/volkeroathsworn(formerly ruwintersasha, haindariel sunseeker, answersisters, basedthundergod, vosslerdalmasc and a bunch of other names) - sassy gay faggot
https://x.com/Aaron_Darkblade - another Zodiark Trancer but less whiny about it last I checked
https://x.com/SorenDuskweaver - another one. Still commonly bitches about Square, XIV, Ishikawa, etc. but less so than Volker. Seems to be a homosexual and former WoW and XIVfag turned to gacha shit. Often bitches about how male characters are treated unfairly by gacha games and acts bitchy and snarky to gachafags that like female gacha characters, calling them gooner waifufags.
https://x.com/elvenresurgence - Potentially an even greater squealing ragepig than volker. Volker tries too hard to be a sassy mean girl. This guy is just pure righteous crusader rage and seethes nonstop. Always sucking volker's dick in replies.
I think you'll see quite some overlap with the shit posted here compared to there. Especially the first and second accounts.
>>715804564I started looking at people differently if they claimed to like the story. Like there must be something very wrong with them.
>>715804691Ooo, fun, stashing all this away.
This game would have been better off if they closed it after 6.0 and made a new one with a less trashy engine. Im unironically at a point where the mainreason I lost interest was only partially due to how hilariously bad Dawntrail war. It was mostly simply that Im getting tired of the same reused animations, effects and physics of the game. Hell, solution 9 was supposed to be some sick new area and a somewhat unique setting, yet all I saw where the same done to death assets. It doesnt help that the graphics """""""update""""""" was a big blunder too.
>>715804807As you can tell by volker's history of namechanges, he might elude you for a bit. Last time he was called out on /v/, his haindariel account just up and disappeared for a while. Just very coincidentally like within a day of being exposed here. He also likes to change his name and face to avoid blocks and LARP as characters. Answersisters was him LARPing as Venat and being a belligerent cunt to people online in, I shit you not, a wild attempt to try and get people to hate Venat by proxy.
But the other ones seem to be fairly consistent in their account names.
Whichever disappear will always resurface somehow. Since they're almost always sucking each other's dicks in the comments, if one disappears, you can usually find them again by checking the replies of one of the others on the list.
I dont know who are worse, the trancers or yoship's ball guzzlers.
dawntrail has been hit and miss moreso miss, they'd better improve for 8.0
>>715804691>elvenresurgence>haindariel sunseekersWhy is it always elf fags
>>715805150trancers far and away
yoshida doesn't really have any nut suckers here, more like people who boredly acknowledge his existence outside of meme pics sometimes and people that dress up training dummies as yoshida and fight it
>>715805157all of them are trad larpers in varying amounts it seems
>>715803695I talk daily to my fc, most of us been playing for 11 years
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>>715805342does this sound familiar
>>715805668ah lads not again
Yoshi P lives rent free in your head
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