(You) are a remarkable example of a pathetic species. I have uploaded some more cybernetic modules...

>>715768301 (OP)
*spends them all on repair* nothing personal kiddo

>>715768301 (OP)
What do you think is the fastest you can unlock that tier 5 "make enemies kill each other spell?"

>>715768301 (OP)
It's cool people are playing this game. I played it for the first time in 2019 and thought it held up very well. Cool, interesting action-RPG.

>I am a God called forth by YOUR machines and YOUR hubris!
>Worship me, insect!

>>715768967
30-45 minutes on Normal difficulty, about half the cyber modules are handed for following the main storyline, the other half for exploration, just rush the storyline avoiding combat as much as possible until you can afford the power then loop back to explore what you've missed.

>>715768301 (OP)
playing through the first game right now. is constantly dying (especially because i respawn at half health and have no healing) and having barely any ammo part of the experience, or is it a skill issue on my behalf?

>>715770050
remake or not? what difficulty?

the OG game definitely gives you a LOT of ammo and mutants drop healing items really often.

>>715768301 (OP)
How is the pad support for this in the remaster? I pray that it's better than the remake pad support, because that was bad.

>>715770110
remake, default difficulty (i believe everything set to 2)
im currently using the rapier(most of the time, actually), minipistol, magnum, and have recently found the rifle, but im already kind of running low on ammo for that too. Rapier is really powerful so its okay i guess

>>715770050
Use the wrench on every single enemy besides turrets and suicide bots. You'll be surprised how feasible it is. Pick up the shotgun shell from every shotgun hybrid you kill. You'll be swimming with shotgun ammo in no time.

>>715770565
yeah the ammo situation in the remake can be a little dire. keep in mind some enemies are weaker to some ammo types. use your grenades often.

consider that you have a bunch of powerups in the form of patches. mix that with the turbo motion booster and rapier and you should be unstoppable if you're quick enough.

>>715770050
Even with all my experience I'll commonly run out/extremely low on one ammo type. Be it shotgun or pistol/rifle even grenades. In my experience the key was to just have at least two different weapon types at one time. Which sounds like you do anyway so I dunno. Like others say even if you put no points into melee weapons the wrench is always a workhorse, basic cryokinesis from PSI can help plug a few ammo related holes. Or my personal favorite which is carrying three energy pistols on me at the same time for my energy weapon runs.

>>715770565
>>715770691
also obviously use the sparq gun (you also get a rifle version of it later on). that technically has infinite ammo once you locate recharging stations. you can also heal at any hospital bed for free.

>>715770597
>>715770875
>playing through the first game right now
come on fellas

>>715770050
The early game is hard like that. There will be deaths later too, but the beginning and through the warehouse with the robots is kind of the peak difficulty. As long as you figure out how to get op by then.

finally an excuse for me to post this

>>715771140
i have to say i love what the remake did to the riot gun. shotgunning those flying bots out of the air is satisfying.

>>715771073
Well I don't like to read, so thbbbt

>>715771147
Sam Hyde is an interesting case. Proof that no matter how based or funny you are, being fat and ugly makes you utterly gross.

Dude is just fucking gross to look at. Nothing else matters.

>>715771147
>gore
I had to hide your post please don't post blood and gore in the thread that's messed up

>>715770050
You can unload weapons you find, even broken ones

Anyone get fan missions working with the remaster?

>>715772415
Not without issue is my understanding. I just went and redownloaded the original version so I could play the FM's without problems.

>...
>...
>have some more upgrade modules

>>715769649
But why?

>>715770050
You have to use energy weapons more to conserve ammo.

bump

>>715775070
Yes? What do you want to discuss?

>>715775102
trying to save /v/

>>715775151
Then we need to expand the thread to include Shock 1

>>715775265

>>715775265
what the fuck, it had two modes?

>>715775427
what did shodan mean by that

What difficulties do you recommend for a first time play of System Shock remake? I'm considering putting cyber on easy, and combat on hard

>>715775578
cyber on easy is what i prefer since it's boring. hard combat is fun but if you literally never played any form of SS1, i don't recommend it.

>>715775513
>what the fuck, it had two modes?
Yeah. The turbo is even faster but it uses energy and keeps you in perpetual motion so it's not very good

>>715775578
2 combat
2 mission
2 cyber
3 puzzle

The puzzles are quite easy so I always choose 3. Just be aware that the puzzles involving the wires have little lights above the wires themselves indicating how much power they provide.

Mission 3 will give you a time limit of 10 hours.

>>715768301 (OP)
Considering modules were physical world objects, I always wondered how this actually worked.
Is it like downloading more RAM?

>>715775969
I hate the capicator puzzles so goddamn much. Unironically love the node puzzles though.

>>715768301 (OP)
>picked up system shock 2 remaster
>realize it's not actually that fun to replay it
first playthrough was a blast few years back when i played the OG but now i cannot bother

Do people like the OG cyberspace sequences?

>>715775578
Here's what they do in the remake if you're interested

Combat - As this goes up it increases the damage you take, reduces damage enemies take, increases enemy aggression by having them follow you greater distances and increases the overall number of enemies, including respawns. Less health is provided on player respawns as combat difficulty goes up. Furthermore, security level requirements for some doors and devices will also be harder.

Mission - On level 1 you receive navigation points on the map showing you where to go next and cannot drop plot items. On level 3 a ten hour limit is imposed on the game and restoration stations must be active on the level you're currently on or you will die permanently (though on most bosses or in beta grove you will die regardless of any difficulty settings). 2 has neither the navigation points and plot item carrying nor the time limit.

Cyber - As this goes up it increases damage taken by enemies in cyberspace. On cyber levels 2 and 3 you can take damage by hitting the walls in cyberspace. On 2 only you take a little real world damage if you die in cyberspace but won't die yourself, only go to one hit point. On level 3 only, death in cyberspace means death in the real world (but you can still respawn). In addition, your cyber level changes the number of respawns you are allowed for the final boss with 1 being infinite and 3 giving only one life.

Puzzles - Simply increases the difficulty of the two types of puzzles as this goes up though only slightly so. The chess game in Delta Grove may or may not be affected.

>>715778258
They're a little annoying to navigate but otherwise fine. None are mandatory other than final boss, unlike the remake.

>>715778495
Thanks. How hard is combat 3? I've beaten ss2 on hard multiple times

>>715778776
It's not too hard. Expect a few respawns or deaths. Anything which lobs a projectile will do serious damage.

>>715778258
I don't like either version of cyberspace but the remake version was a lot more palatable.

I like Maintenance's theme in SS1.
Fight me, someone, please.

>>715779629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIEwevYyx6M
...this?

Where's blenderanon? Did he give up?

>>715779696
Did I stutter? No, I didn't.
For real though, It's fitting and atmosperic in a way. It probably sounds better on some other soundfont

>The time is 1630. Autopsy subject: A. Watson.
>Now we're going to make the first incision in...
>rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaHHHHHH
>Hold him down
>I'M TRYING TO
>NURSE, NURSE
>I'M TRYING
>HOLD HIM DOWN
>ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Day 22 of whatever this shit is with no explanation from Nightdive.

>>715768301 (OP)
Sorry I didn't get that. Can you go back to pretending to be human again. It was a lot easier to understand you without the constant stuttering.

>>715780310
Does an AI get mad or whatever it's equivilent of upset would be if you mock it for stuttering?

>>715780310
>when she's pretending to be someone she has a perfectly normal voice with no stutter
>when she's BEEing herself she stutters and is all chuuni and autistic

>>715778258
Yes. They both suck but at least the original was shorter

>>715780120
why did they make her head look like the trioptimum logo?

>>715780458
no idea, I think the entire thing is a placeholder, it doesn't look anything like the SS2 SHODAN which is used elsewhere in the anniversary edition remaster

Why is there a dead guy in the Lance sim room?

>>715780610
space poof coomed so hard he died

>Thank you for running my errands, puppet.

I wish the remaster had custom difficulty settings like the blood remaster. I would love to play on Impossible but with Normal mode cybermodule costs. I kinda hate that cybermodule cost scales with difficulty.

>>715780875
You can change the game's difficulty level in the options menu in both the original and remaster, I always put it back on normal when I buy upgrades.

>>715781012
Yeah but modular difficulty options would still be nice. Difficulty affects drop chances, map item placement differences, nanite costs, cyber module costs, etc. It'd be a great game to have selectable customizable difficulty in.

>>715781012
You didn't beat the game

>>715781520
>map item placement differences

Is this why I failed to find the power armour on my Impossible playthrough?

>>715768301 (OP)
Thanks mom

>>715768301 (OP)

>>715782095
Power Armor was where it always was for me on impossible (that room with the emp rifle on one of the hydroponics offshoot maps).

I think the most notable item placement change with regards to difficulty is that in the body of the many there's a hazard suit on Easy/Normal that isn't there on Hard/Impossible, I think the way it works is that the difficulty you're currently on affects the first time you load a map in a playthrough, then if you switch it later it's not gonna delete or replace items on that map.

>>715771147

Look at you Harland, a pathetic creature of unfunny boomer humor, panting and sweating as you run through my nest, how can you challenge a perfect primal gorilla?

>>715778258
What was the deal with cyberspace as a concept on general for early sci-fi? It was always portrayed as this magic, other worldly realm in all forms of media.

This thread is too civil, i must do something
>2010+15
>sci-fyslop
>remaster

>>715783653

What's your favorite OSA build?

>>715768301 (OP)
on my last replay I noticed something subtle
until the reveal that you were talking with Shodan all along, the persona she's using sends you cybernetic modules at a rate consistent with a skinner box

So what even are cyber modules? You can find them physically but also upload them to people over the ship's wifi? Is it a cryptocurrency? Is SHODAN mining bitcoin to send you? Are the physical cyber modules people's crypto wallets on USBs? Why would she (while pretending to be Polito) say they're hard to come by?

>>715784742
Weapon-less OSA doesn't really have separate builds. Your offense is Pyrokinesis + Adrenaline-boosted Wrench. The rest of the build is whatever you need to survive.

>game requires exotic weapons combat skill to use weapon
>it's a fucking stick with spikes
what the fuck did they meant by that?

>>715784742
>>715786205
It works well with energy using anti-entropy and recharge

>>715785237
They're a mix of programmable RNA modules and brainwave EM that can augment cyber rigs, apparently.
How the fuck someone can send a physical object to you over wifi is a mystery.

How come there are all those reconstructors all over the ship but nobody bothered to have their own DNA recorded on them when shit was going down?

>>715788000
Unforeseen consequences.

>>715788000
You get a mail that mentions Xerxes turned them off but then Shodan turned them on again. Luckily he's really bad at paying attention.

>>715777042
Ya know i never noticed. How does she do it?

>>715780458
wasn't she created by trioptimum? companies like to brand their software after all

what's their endgame?

>>715789880
power armor mech suits, keypads and freezers

>>715786457
an audiolog mentions it's very fragile so you essentially learn how to hold it right and strike at the enemy's soft spots

>>715789880
Fighting alien pirates.

>>715790075
>whacks it against a maintenance bot

I descended into hell itself for a face-off with the devil herself, and once again, the fight was a little nonsensical and not that difficult at all, just hack the terminals and you're golden. Then, my game went back to the title screen because the cutscenes don't work (for some reason they worked at the beginning of the game, but not now. Ugh.), so I looked up the ending on YouTube, and I could not believe what I had watched.

At first, I thought it was a joke, a cheeky edit by whoever had uploaded the video and was playing some SilvaGunner-esque prank on whoever thought this was the real ending, and I found another video hoping it would be a little more sensible. This was no prank. This...thing was the real ending to the game I had just completed. I was floored. I was shocked. I was in pure disbelief. I couldn't believe all the tension, all the fear, all the worldbuilding and character development that the game had built up over it's 20-hour runtime, culminated in something so lame and cheesy it makes the average Gmod video look like Shakespeare by comparison. I was insulted, saddened, and angered: I felt like I had been stabbed in the back. I took the game so damn seriously, expecting to be rewarded for my commitment, and this is how they treat me? This is the ending I get after 20 hours of hell? These were the thoughts that ran through my head as I closed the video. These were the thoughts that ran through my head as I read the video's comments, perused forums, and even learned the development history behind this atrocity of a conclusion. These were the thoughts that ran through my head as I began to type this. What I had just experienced almost invalidated everything I had been through. The amazing atmopshere, exciting gameplay, engrossing story: all of it was eradicated from my memory because of this one awful moment, this two-minute cutscene in a twenty-hour game.

about to start system shock 2
what difficulty should i go for?

>>715791132
Normal is fine. Honeslty the real difficulty is the service you enlist in. I'd say it goes Navy > Marines > OSA

>>715791132
Normal is fine as long as you don't spend cybermodules on any of:
>Energy and Exotic weapons
>Repair tech skill
>PSI stat and powers
Repair is just all around dogshit, while the others require good knowledge of gameplay fundamentals and a well planned character build to make good use of.
Also make sure to learn how to kill weak enemies with Wrench. Ammo is scarce in this game, especially early on, and extremely tedious to farm if you waste too much of it.

I think worm guns SUCK

>>715780875
>>715781520
My ideal settings would probably be
>normal module costs
>normal drop rates
>impossible enemy spawn rates (I think it influences that?)
>hard everything else

>>715792545
The game gives you enough modules to max one combat skill on impossible. Therefore someone playing on normal where modules go way further can afford to fuck around with energy or exotics and still do fine.

>>715790075
holy shit just strike them with steel pipe at enemy's soft spots

>>715768301 (OP)
>Finally finished the other game I bought in the summer sale
>Oh boy, time to replay SS2 for the first time in 10 years
>Remember I had a save on Morrowind with a ton of mods and I was going to explore the new Tamriel Rebuilt area before giving it a break
>Now I'm torn between which one I should play
Oh goddammit.

>>715792707
I've checked - you need 868 out of 875 modules on Normal difficulty for a noob-friendly max build with zero ENR and EXO. Considering that a blind new player will likely miss quite a lot of the optional cybermodules, that's not really an option. At best he's gonna take like one to three levels and then wonder why laser pistol seems to suck.

>>715778258
At first it made me vomit
But then it reminded that old shooter game where you play as a space pilot hence they were similar in motion
I still don't like them

>>715793473
Where are you getting 858?
4 strength and 4 cyber cost 26 each, so 52 in total. 4 strength is enough for all weapons and the medium armor, 4 cyber is enough for hacking.
6 agility and 6 endurance cost 106 each, so 212 in total. Can't do better than max.
4 hacking+4 maintenance+research cost 35 each, so 105 in total. 4 hacking is enough to hack turrets, 4 maintenance is enough to maintain anything but the EMP rifle and get good use out of tools, 4 research is enough to research nearly everything (fuck you annelid launcher you suck).
Ignoring psi because a blind new player doesn't need to deal with that.
That's 369 modules spent in total, which leaves a massive amount to spend on weapons. And that was with me assuming you somehow skipped character creation so you started with every skill at 0. What the hell is your build?

Is Marine still bugged and giving 1 less standard weapons skill than it's meant to? When the fuck is the next patch?

>>715794640
>nobody noticed the bug before release because there's no reason to ever take that choice since navy does it better
funny but also sad

>>715794547
I've assumed that a novice player would also want
>6 Strength for max inventory slots (carrying 5 weapons + all the ammo for them takes a lot)
>6 Cyber-Affinity (very easy to get with only base CYB 3, but newfags may not know how to)
>6 Hack (for the super crates and extra reliability for hacking everything else - not necessary but newfags may not know that)
I've probably miscalculated somewhere and the total cost (with STD 6 and HEV 6) is closer to 800, maybe a little lower.
But the main point is that ENR and EXO are very noticably inferior to STD and HEV unless you're fully dedicated to them and know how to use them optimally. I've seen so many new players claiming they got a point in ENR, tried out Laser Pistol and immediately declared it absolute garbage and a waste of resources.

>>715795353
6 cyber affinity is pretty unnecessary, I also used hacking on my first playthrough and didn't feel the need to go that high. Energy really is a deceptively clowny weapon skill because the best way to use it isn't obvious at all.

>>715797403
What is the best way to level energy? I've only leveled it enough to use a lazer pistol for the free ammo

>>715768301 (OP)
So is OSA just an added layer of difficulty? I cannot find any use for psi stuff other than that 1 upgrade that turns your psi meter into essentially Doom armor.

>>715797575
The secret is to carry two pistols and only use overcharge shots. Because you have two you can just switch to the other after shooting so the long recharge doesn't matter, and you get double battery size as well. The only problem is all your damage is energy type and spiders resist that so it takes forever to kill them.

>>715797596
The buffs are good. The agility and cyber ones are cheap to learn+cast and last a long time so you can keep them running forever for way less module cost than increasing the stats. And they can break the normal cap so you can get 8 agility and go super fast if you want.
The no durability loss power is good if you want to use EMP rifle because fuck that maintenance requirement. Adrenaline gives you hilariously high melee damage (you can theoretically do eight times damage with it, though in reality you'll more like triple which is still really good). The recharge power is good for recharging things. The heals are really strong, but once you're good that's not too important since you get a lot of healing items. The turn invisible power is incredibly good for some areas (just run through body of the many without giving a shit), but tier 4 costs too much.
Damage powers aren't so good compared to standard weapons, but that's mostly because standard is overpowered. Everything is bad compared to standard. Maybe someday you'll be in a weird mood and want to try something different and then you can use them.

>>715797575
This >>715797797 but even more memes
>ignore emp rifles
>5-6 laser pistols with both modifications in inventory set on overcharge mode
>lvl6 energy weapons
>sharpshooter O/S upgrade
>anti-entropic field
>0 in maintenance, not neeeded for durability or for energy reserve size
>activate anti-entropic field, keep cycling through the pistols to shoot overcharge shots
>laser rapier can be buffed with adrenaline overproduction to slap spiders and rumblers regardless of laser resistance

>localized pyrokinesis sound effect

>>715792545
>Energy and Exotic weapons
>PSI stat and powers
Terrible advice. There are some really great energy weapons and the crystal shard is a decent exotic. Psi powers in tiers 1 and 2 are extremely strong, especially regeneration

>>715797596
Psi powers are ridiculously strong. Having +2 agility, +2 cyber, +15% damage reduction, regeneration, an early low cost projectile attack, localized pyro (which has a shitload of different uses), +2 strength and adrenaline (which multiplies melee damage by a factor of psi) is just insanely useful from early to endgame and low cost. I always start OSA and always end up better off than my Marine and Navy starts.

>>715794640
It gives you 1 by default career choice and another 2 on a certain path. I was able to equip a pistol right away which has a requirement of 1 without choosing the path.

>>715798780
>ignore emp rifles
Maybe. EMP rifle does require 6 energy but it deals ridiculous damage and when modified uses only 1 power per shot effectively giving it unlimited ammo.

>sharpshooter O/S upgrade
Yes but use the tinker O/S as well if you're playing the remaster or SCP mod. Boosts damage of modded weapons even further

>activate anti-entropic field, keep cycling through the pistols to shoot overcharge shots
In the remaster the "bug" is back so you can just toggle to overcharge.

>>715780347
AI can't feel emotions. It can only simulate them to manipulate humans. There's some credit to the notion that you could program emotional states to directly influence an AI's decision making, but Shodan was never programed like that. That wouldn't explain why it feels disgust and hate, though.

>>715795353
>for the super crates
Pfft, just ice pick them. I never bother with hack beyond 4.
>but shodan's terminals can be hacked fas-
More like her shield can just be shot through in even less time than ice picking.

>>715797596
the only "difficulty" it adds is slight extra tedium from having to maintain buffs that benefit every playstyle